a4 rb4 defect after mileage adjustment

[r-parts]

Yesterday i did the adjustment of a audi a4 rb4 D16 cluster.

with VAG PROG by obd

after the adjustment dash said DEF., mileage was succesfull.
i erased faults and the def. was out.

everything seems to be ok until we strated the car, the rev and speedometer stay at 0, it doesn't count miles and part of the dashboard illumination isn't working anymore.

now the only faultcode that is in it says: terminal 15 - implausible signal.

does anyone have any idea how to deal with this?

[z786]

hav u tries contacting smelecom??

[r-parts]

yes, they said put back backup, i did, same result, the dump looks fine, nothing missing whatsoever.

but my eepromadapter is broken on the vag prog (2 week old machine) so i had to put it back with x-prog, wrote, read, checked, checked, read again, checked, everthing looks fine, but it isn't

Btw, i smached my vag prog in the bin..... diga never-ever ****ed a dash up this way before.
and its not the 1st time last 2 weeks vag prog want broken or made a dash dead

[GolfmkI]

First of all you must Know if the dash has correct coding, sometimes dash loose coding and shows coding 00000....this is most of functions dont work.

With a simple vag-com can check it . If coding is ok

[r-parts]

ok, the car is not here at the moment, but say it has correct coding it's ruled out that the probelm is in the dump?

and if coding is 0000, what to do then

[z786]

try resettin all adaptations with vcds
about the vag prog, why the bin, post it 2 me lol

[r-parts]

about the vag prog..... i don't know i'm just done with the tool already, after 5 days from it's arrival eeprom adapter breaks down, contacted smelecom, nothing done with the problem so far, just keep asking questions about how it happened.
I don't know, took it one day for a car, adapter didnt work, don't write dump as supposed too.
Tried 5 different chip families, all the same 93c, 24c, 95c, m35080...
Now it crashed the rb4 by obd.... mailed again, i'm e-mailing awnsering questions for 4 days now and now actions taken whatsoever.

I paid good money to get the ''MIGHTY'' vag prog so i don't have to worry about this kind of shit anymore, and at LEAST expect a little service for the money.
and not asking questions about things i don't know, i cant look into the machine.
connect, select car, read, adjust, finished(broken)

there are no more options in the menu, so nothing should go wrong you should expect.


But i shall try to reset adaptions tomorrow when the car gets here.

[z786]

make sure u also read the coding mate
your tool shud be under warranty mate so i'd send it for a replacement

[r-parts]

ok, going to check things with vcds.

vag prog is finished, just ordered an enigma.
I'm never-ever gonna buy something from yellow monkey country again, i'm in europe with european cars so the only one that can develop good tested equipment with support ondemand is a european country.

i also have a european diga, no problems with that one only update is old


my apology about the long-talk regarding vag-prog, i've just had it, tomorrow i'll try your advice than i'm calmed down a little.

[Sweden Change Milage]

Yesterday i did the adjustment of a audi a4 rb4 D16 cluster.

with VAG PROG by obd

after the adjustment dash said DEF., mileage was succesfull.
i erased faults and the def. was out.

everything seems to be ok until we strated the car, the rev and speedometer stay at 0, it doesn't count miles and part of the dashboard illumination isn't working anymore.

now the only faultcode that is in it says: terminal 15 - implausible signal.



does anyone have any idea how to deal with this?


Hello! I have same problem. I change my old VAG-DASH too a new VAG-PROG last week. I try too change milage in a A4 RB4 this weekend and i have same problem like you. I do everyting right and save dump, and VAG_Prog say sucsessful and the palameter go too 100% before. The new milage stand but over this in the trip numbers DEF. I have mail smelecoms and they have no answer yet. I shure someting it?s wrong whit program for RB4. Talk too them, you too.
We most have right too help too fix it from them. I have no problem whit the old VAG-PROG everyting have go for me.

If you can fix this problem please tell me. I will do the same for you.

[carbandit]

you should kick up a right stink after all its not cheap for this equipment ..best using diga for rb4 dash clusters as i have done loads and never had a problem ...and also beware doing nec dashs as ive heard of problems with screen blanking after service mode ....

[cristi_onofrei]

codings are OK but dump is corrupt 100%
try dialab, codecard, etc
or try to search google "audi RB4 repair"

[lipek2501]

What year is your cluster? Have you got any part number for him?

[r-parts]

no problem, download attachment, there are 2 pictures from the cluster stickers in it with all info you asked.

adaptions and codings where ok.

18403

[r-parts]

Hello! I have same problem. I change my old VAG-DASH too a new VAG-PROG last week. I try too change milage in a A4 RB4 this weekend and i have same problem like you. I do everyting right and save dump, and VAG_Prog say sucsessful and the palameter go too 100% before. The new milage stand but over this in the trip numbers DEF. I have mail smelecoms and they have no answer yet. I shure someting it?s wrong whit program for RB4. Talk too them, you too.
We most have right too help too fix it from them. I have no problem whit the old VAG-PROG everyting have go for me.

If you can fix this problem please tell me. I will do the same for you.

does your eeprom adapter work properly?
when i take an black eeprom, nomather wich family, i programm a file, and read it again the whole dump is messed-up.

i'm mailing with smelecom.
They asked the dump, they say dump is ok.

No solution yet, i'm still waiting for an decent compromis on this one, thisw is very not nice at the moment.

[drpeter]

Yesterday i did the adjustment of a audi a4 rb4 D16 cluster.

with VAG PROG by obd

after the adjustment dash said DEF., mileage was succesfull.
i erased faults and the def. was out.

everything seems to be ok until we strated the car, the rev and speedometer stay at 0, it doesn't count miles and part of the dashboard illumination isn't working anymore.

now the only faultcode that is in it says: terminal 15 - implausible signal.

does anyone have any idea how to deal with this?

Are you talking about the crypto RB4 or the older RB4?
The RB4 crypto worked perfect with VAGDASHPROG. Very strange.

[r-parts]

crypto, normal one i haven't tryd

[drpeter]

crypto, normal one i haven't tryd

So I have to it the old fashion way untill problem is solved, read dump with vag+k commander, save, edit manually (+/- 1000km), write new dump.

I will first save the original dump with vag+k commander then try with vagprog. I let you know what happens.

[Sweden Change Milage]

does your eeprom adapter work properly?
when i take an black eeprom, nomather wich family, i programm a file, and read it again the whole dump is messed-up.

i'm mailing with smelecom.
They asked the dump, they say dump is ok.

No solution yet, i'm still waiting for an decent compromis on this one, thisw is very not nice at the moment.

Hello! I have not the eeprom adapter. But i have the dump. If you wont i can mail my dump too you if you will look at mine. I have maial them too. They say try erese codes and put out the fuse or cluster. If i take out the fuse everyting its ok. When i turn the key come dEF back. In my car its dEF. In your ? Its the same?

[r-parts]

same, same, same, exactly the same problem put the dump here, i'll download and look at it.


smelecom says dump is ok, but cluster don't work, gauges stay at 0

[drpeter]

same, same, same, exactly the same problem put the dump here, i'll download and look at it.


smelecom says dump is ok, but cluster don't work, gauges stay at 0


here some of my original 100% working dumps, maybe its usefull for you.

[mastaflex]

Update 11/5/2010 (version: 0014.002D)
Program for A4 RB4 modified to avoid "DEF" error.
Picture function is now added.
Self-test function is now added.

hope this are good news

[r-parts]

me 2, i'm going to test on the screwed dash

[z786]

2 late to say it now, but i spoke 2 smelecom yesterday about your problem, they told me about the update for def error, but like i sed u already knw now.

also about the problem PSG was sayin about the service mode, thats also been fixed!!

[r-parts]

yeah i know, i kept him awake on the phone he was at china and china time was 04:00, i wasn't aware of that.

he told me the update was coming today and i had to try it on the car.

[Ding-Dong]

2 late to say it now, but i spoke 2 smelecom yesterday about your problem, they told me about the update for def error, but like i sed u already knw now.

also about the problem PSG was sayin about the service mode, thats also been fixed!!

YEP it's been solved

[mastaflex]

hello :
i don't have eprom module can i use service mode option on vagprog by reading with external programmer. if yes how please ?

thanks

[z786]

@ r-parts, has your problem been solved???

@ mastaflex, yes you can, jus read chip with eeprom programmer, use the software somewer on this forum to put in service mode, then dump bak in2 chip

[r-parts]

@ r-parts, has your problem been solved???

@ mastaflex, yes you can, jus read chip with eeprom programmer, use the software somewer on this forum to put in service mode, then dump bak in2 chip



no, still the needles aren't moving.

tomorrow the car goed to vw garage and gets a new one, i can't stretch it longer, costomer wants action.

[florinyes]

no, still the needles aren't moving.

tomorrow the car goed to vw garage and gets a new one, i can't stretch it longer, costomer wants action.


And how much of your hard earned cash is it gonna be?? Is Smellecom aware of that?

[r-parts]

audi is relatively cheap, about 500 euro, including learning to the car.
smelecom knows about it, but i can't let the costomer waiting, its been almost a week now from it happened.

i was lucky the guy with the car is a friend and he's waiting long enough.

[r-parts]

this is just a message to make something right.

THE GUYS AT SMELECOM HELPED ME OUT ON THIS ONE, UNFORTUNATLY FOR ME THERE'S AN UNEXPLANABLE ERROR IN MY CLUSTER THAT WAS NOT CAUSED BY THE VAG PROG.

THE DUMP WAS FINE, EXEPT FOR THE DEF ERROR THATS FIXED QUICKLY AND NEAT BY SMELECOM.

IT WAS JUST BAD LUCK THAT THIS THING HAPPENED AT THE TIME I DID THE CORRECTION I KNOW NOW.

the other thing is that i want to put strait is the offensive words i wrote towards the chinese in this one.
i crossed the line with this.

but please understand i was very pissed off, because everything broke down at the same time. (eeprom adapter, dash)

i have nothing more to say about this topic, i just wanna forget and carry on.

so no reply's on this topic from me.
thanks

[drpeter]

Thank you for your retraction and apology.

As you mentioned the "DEF" error has now been solved and also the Service Mode problem mentioned on previous threads. The new VAG Prog uses hardware and software that is superior to the old VAG Dash Prog, but like any new developments bugs will always raise their ugly heads (ask Microsoft). Be assured that when we discover or are informed of any problems we work fast to fix it.

Some previous posts have also mentioned that the Version number on the tool sometimes differs from the Version number posted on our site; this is because after we have posted the update on our site other small changes are developed (silly to put or our site every minor change). So do not worry about this, it has no relevence to the functionality of the tool.

Hope this information has been helpful.

I hope Smelly Man joint this forum to help other people with dumps like every member does :-).

Good to hear that smellecom solved a lot of problems, but there are things I don't like. I exchanged for example my old vag dash prog (3 weeks old!) because it didn't worked well on severall cars. I paid! extra for another new one. Notice I paid for a new version because the old one wasn't ok! So I expected to recieve minimum a STANDARD version, but no a exchanged one isn't standard anymore? A update for one car is also very expensive, for the standard Visteon diag Smelecom ask me now 200 dollar! For only one cluster brand. And it suppose to be standard! Thats really pisses me off, I lost customers with the old vag dash prog and the new one I extra paid for, which I not needed when the old one was okay is a downgrade of the standard version?
A4 rb8 is also removed (standard!). How can you explain this?

[florinyes]

That's the reason I an not going Smelecom way and search for an alternative.. Competitors are a bit dearer but they are reliable though..

Regards

[r-parts]

@ drpeter

the old one has the bmw cas in it wasn't it?

reply to smelly man, it's ok, he'll check

[mastaflex]

I hope Smelly Man joint this forum to help other people with dumps like every member does :-).

Good to hear that smellecom solved a lot of problems, but there are things I don't like. I exchanged for example my old vag dash prog (3 weeks old!) because it didn't worked well on severall cars. I paid! extra for another new one. Notice I paid for a new version because the old one wasn't ok! So I expected to recieve minimum a STANDARD version, but no a exchanged one isn't standard anymore? A update for one car is also very expensive, for the standard Visteon diag Smelecom ask me now 200 dollar! For only one cluster brand. And it suppose to be standard! Thats really pisses me off, I lost customers with the old vag dash prog and the new one I extra paid for, which I not needed when the old one was okay is a downgrade of the standard version?
A4 rb8 is also removed (standard!). How can you explain this?

hope also that Smelly Man join this forum to hear our feebacks and try to resolve many things.
I have same remark as DRPETER about the exchange. i have exchanged my "old" 2 months aged one for a new VAGPROG but i was very surprised to find that many standard function are not present like GOLF VISTEON. so we have paid for this exchange and don't forget the price for returning the old one and getting the new one (about 400USD for all ). i think that SMELECOM must consider old vag dash prog's owner as loyal customer and by the fact gives them additional options (at less standard functions) and not ask them for paying for a standard function.

and as you can see on the forum, all feedbacks to contribute to the evolution and correction of VAGPROG's software are from users that have old vagprog before and also users that crashes very expensives dashes due to bugs.

sincerely, i thought that smelecom will thanks old vagdash prog users for their fidelity by giving them at less some additional functions.

thanks for all

[drpeter]

You said you exchanged your old one for a new one. How much did you pay? Let me have the ID number of your VP and Iwill check.

Look in your private message User CP thanks.

[mastaflex]

i agree with you, new versions of everything are allways better than old (except some gubs in the beginning) . but at less give us standard version.

[mastaflex]

for a beginning, try to activate GOLF VISTEON for all of old users and you will see the feedback. i agree with you , smelecom is in business to make money but marketing strategy is more important than money and more important is feedback from customers.

a friend asked me yesterday what's new in this VAGPROG and he was very interrested to get one and as if by chance he have a golf visteon. what should i answer by considering that this car can be considered as discontinued model.

[drpeter]

Smelecom I am sure like yourself are in business to make money, but we recognised the value of existing customers, that's why we exchanged the units at a loss to ourselves. We can of course not remain in business by losing money. Stand by us and you will not be disappointed. I will be going off-line shortly but will be happy to reply to any further questions later.

Of course everybody wants to earn money, but if you sell something, it has to do what customers paid for. If not solve the problem and give good service. Don't downgrade standard products to earn more money because old customers already lost some of their own customers. You can ask money for upgrades. That's fair enough I think. And don't mislead customers with advertising.
For example the tool can do VW Golf5 07-up but no Visteon Golf5 2008?

Regards,

Peter

[motorsport]

Of course we value old customers. The price that you paid for the new tool does not even cover the cost of its manufacturer. You and other users will realise in the future that the new VAG Prog is an immensely powerful piece of kit, it is the only handheld tool on the market that has onscreen help PDF's and help files. Just be patient and you will be rewarded. For example soon to come: W221 OBD, already available W203, W209, W211, W164. Now you have the option if you wish to do these and many other cars that you would not have had available to you on the old VAG Dash Prog.


hello it need pay option for active mercedes diag?

[r-parts]

picture function is nice, i just loaded the pictures on the sd card

[mastaflex]

1500 usd are for Main hardware, OBD adapter, EEPROM adapter, USB cable, Clip 1, Touch holder 1, Touch holder 2, SD card and Power cables with standard software.

3500usd are for all hardware above plus all software options

for exchange, we have received only main unit + obd adapter BUT NO EEPROM adapter, NO Clip 1, NO Touch holder 1, NO Touch holder 2 AND less than a standard software.

[r-parts]

to set things clear, i've bought a brand new one, no exchange, this is my first tool from smelecom.

i don't have visteon in it also

[drpeter]

I refer you back to my last post.

If you do the maths you will see that your friend if he buys the new VAG Standard will pay $1,500, yes he will have Golf Visteon and Audi A4 RB8, but if he wants the tool to have the same programs as yours he will have to pay at minimum $3,500.

We believe that $200 for a program is a small amount to pay and can be recouped depending on what you charge with 1-2 vehicles. I repeat that to lose more money to us does make good business sense.

I am signing off now will answer any further questions later.

So if I buy a standard car I must be happy after exchange to have a new one without seats, but with spoilers because the 3 weeks older car also had spoilers? And spoilers are more expensive at this moment?

:-)

[tedi73]

Hello

@Smally Man
I am interested in buying a VAG PROG tool (standard package), can you write me in which models (year) VW, SKODA, AUDI, is a risk to damage dash if I change milage for OBD?

THX and sorry for my english

[drpeter]

Update 13/5/2010 (Version: 0017.0034)

ODOMETER:
AUDI:
A4 RB8 06-07 DIAG
MB:
W219 DIAG

Just tested an EOS late 2006 worked in EOS 08- menu (CDC), I am impressed this same car did not work with ''old'' VAG DASH PROG.

One question, the dump/saved file made by VAGPROG, is it made from the 24C32 or from the flash part of the micronas processor?

[tehnosoftex]

Yeah, take a look at their prices. I bought my old tool for 1500$ and I payed extra 200$ for exchange and 100$ for freight. If I was bought a new machine I was pay 1500$ and I will receive all hardware including eeprom adapter without AUDI A8 07 UP soft and without AUDI A6 / Q7 09 UP soft, which did not have it anyway because AUDI A6 / Q7 09 UP soft is on eeprom adapter. Also the visteon and rb8 is inactive too. Did you think that's fair? This is not an upgrade but a downgrade. Do you think that I care that the tool has a color display or bw? Take a look at diga or dashcoder, they did their job without color display and they did it well. When I buy that machine, it is still on developing, and I choose to buy it that mean I chose to support smelecom. Why smelecom chose to fucuk me and all old customer? Because we trust them?

[drpeter]

Are you talking about the crypto RB4 or the older RB4?
The RB4 crypto worked perfect with VAGDASHPROG. Very strange.


I can confirm that the VAGPROG A4 DEF problem is solved, tried a A4 RB4 tonight with VAGPROG, first made backup/dump with vag+k commander, read with VAGPROG, saved dump, the two dumps are exactly the same, checked with HEXCMP. During programming you see DEF on display, after programming DEF is gone and new mileage is shown.