Programming 29f400 and similar

[GolfmkI]

Hello I have at this moment xprog-m and upa usb programmer. What is the most reliable tool to read and write this flash? They are tipycal in ecus, and have no tool to read it.

Anyone can tell his experience. Any adaptor for easier work?

[workas]

Hello I have at this moment xprog-m and upa usb programmer. What is the most reliable tool to read and write this flash? They are tipycal in ecus, and have no tool to read it.

Anyone can tell his experience. Any adaptor for easier work?
You must buy another programmer like elnec,or any flash memory programmer !

[GolfmkI]

Yes I know must buy another programmer, this is why I make question. What???? I only want it to this purpose 29f200 and 29f400 other types seems can be done with the other programmers I have.

I think cheaper option is willem???
Best option is Labtool 48???

I really have not seen working, so need help to decide one.

Thanks.

[bram380]

I've been using SmartPRO X8 and no matter what.
Software can be updated at any time via online.

This tool can read and write EPROM 28f200 28f400 29f200 29f400 29f800.

I use this to read and write 28f200 on BMW ECU DME MS41.1 with PSOP44 adapter.

[damih]

Hello i use willem pcb 5 easy to use and chip

[bram380]

Hello i use willem pcb 5 easy to use and chip

SIVAVA - Advanced Willem EPROM Programmer [PCB50] EEPROM PIC MCU BIOS (http://www.sivava.com/EPROM_Programmer_5.html)

[bram380]

Hello i use willem pcb 5 easy to use and chip

SIVAVA - Advanced Willem EPROM Programmer [PCB50] EEPROM PIC MCU BIOS (http://www.sivava.com/EPROM_Programmer_5.html)

[edc]

willem will do the job ...

[AEN]

Hi to all!
I use programmer Triton, you may find it here www.triton-prog.ru

[sogaro]

Hello m8s, i did buy the Sivava tool , the latest is pcb5 and it would not work. I try to read 93c56 and it says chip read ok but i see just zeros and no data in the buffer tab. i tried also with AB28F200 and no show. Tested hardare and it says "Hardware Error; check Power and connection"
Sent mails to sivava and got no response, pls help

[antibisic]

I have this prog and work good,check your usb port,cabel and LPT cabel

[Overtune]

True USB Willem ECU EPROM BIOS SPI universal Programmer on eBay (end time 11-Jul-10 11:37:36 BST) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/True-USB-Willem-ECU-EPROM-BIOS-SPI-universal-Programmer-/310226116463?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item483aeadf6f)

[sogaro]

Am i supposed to use the usb and the lpt cable together? i felt it was either of both and the lpt more when using external power

[edc]

usb port can be extra power supply ...

attache the picture of the programmer.
does it have 12V power supply connetor ... ?

[sogaro]

usb port can be extra power supply ...

attache the picture of the programmer.
does it have 12V power supply connetor ... ?
Yes it does, tried it too , no luck

[bram380]

Try to use both LPT and USB cable.
Perform the hardware test before using it read and write EPROM.

Other sources of information about the Willem programmer:
~Willem programmer & adapter (http://www.rebios.net/jl/english/eprom.htm)
~Willem programmer problem solving (http://www.mcumall.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3)

[racin-snake]

i have gq4x programmer it can read this chip but had no sucess writing one :stupido: anyone got any ideas why ?

[bram380]

i have gq4x programmer it can read this chip but had no sucess writing one :stupido: anyone got any ideas why ?

Here some tips GQ-4x programmer (http://www.mcumall.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=9)

[racin-snake]

thanking you mate

[sogaro]

My software version is 0.98D11. i believe the problem is installation related as Test hardware always say check power and connection. there definitely is not connection between programmer and pc.

[damih]

Hello,what cable you use for a LTP port originale for a programmer or an other?

[sogaro]

The original one that came with device

[the_riddler]

Try to use both LPT and USB cable.
Perform the hardware test before using it read and write EPROM.

Other sources of information about the Willem programmer:
~Willem programmer & adapter (http://www.rebios.net/jl/english/eprom.htm)
~Willem programmer problem solving (http://www.mcumall.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3)

i got this and works very well. software nice aswell

[sogaro]

Thanks guys i finally got it to work but it shuts down my laptop anytime i try to read AB28F200, when i checked PC resources i realised it clocks 100% immediately, what do i do?
Was my laptop fan acting up. all is ok now

[carsinlet]

Hi i also have a x-prog-m and a willem eprom programer (pcb50) i need to read and write to 29f200, 29f400. would you give me advice on the adapter i need thank you.

[Zmann]

Xprog-m cannot do the job, willem should do. For willem and 29F200, 29F400 you would need a PSOP 44 to DIP 32 Adapter.

[papalos_]

Is that proper adapter (http://www.sivava.com/buynow.php?pd=B15) for programming-reading 29f400 & 29f800 that it's on Mercedes-Benz ECU with Willem programmer?

[Zmann]

Yes, it is used for those chips but only for the specific programmer.

To avoid buying wrong adapter even it looked the same, if you're not sure of the adapter configuration (wiring), buy the same maker as the programmer or can buy from different maker but with clearly applicable indication. The adapter in the link is for PSOP44 package to DIP32 but not a universal one. It can only be used with its own Willem programmer to program 29F400 etc. unless the other programmers stated that this adapter is applicable. And for sure this adapter cannot be used with all other 48 pin ZIF socketed programmer such as Beeprog, Labtool-48UXP, Willon and more. They normally use PSOP44 to DIP44 but maybe with their own specific configuration again. One of my programmers is GQ3-X Willem-USB with ZIF 32pin socket, its same adapter look same to the one in the link and may be used.

[papalos_]

What is the right position for the flash 29f400 on adapter?

Picture A or B?

Regards

[sogaro]

Position A

[racin-snake]

i use gq4x usb programer also have a wellon vp490

gq is quick and cheap and with adapter works fine on both f200 and f400

[PierreTheron]

Hi
Received my willem adaptor and did my first read on 29f400 chip.
Seems to work great.

[magnacin]

I have been using GQ-4X with adapter. it is good and reliable.
check this website:
A low cost EPROM EEPROM MCU Atmel Microchip PIC I2C SPI programmer online store (http://www.mcumall.com)

[zogldi]

I use Xeltek SuperPro 3000 and never had problems with reading flash,eprom,mcu... This device have all adaptor one to one and you can make it you self.Reading and writing is 100%.By the way I have Galep4 too but Xeltek is much better.

[DiegoAC]

Gq-3x and gq-4x work fine for that. Cheers.

[SergoFox]

I'll try it - New EZoFlash+. Parallel memory programmer. (http://www.ezoflash.com/). Now the stage of assembly. Assemble, test it, tell about it

Sorry for bad English

[SergoFox]

What you can edit the downloaded dump 29F800 or 29F400?
So need a program for editing calibrations in the dump.

Sorry for bad English

[mexanico1971]

hello ! I have some problem width my psop 44 adapter in my pcb 3.5. i can not erease the 29f400 but i can read something !
I try to make shore if the pins are good contact and it seems ok !
this is a 29f400 from a bosh edc15 Peugeot 206 hdi !
I install the newest willem 5.5 and I see some diferences in the 97ja and the 99d8 !
why ?! is there any reason ?!
I gona lef one attachement !
if somebody cant help me !file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/VIRALA%7E1/DEFINI%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.png
thanks in advance !

[bram380]

Try to select a device Flash 29/39/49Fxxx,
and select 29Fx00 8/16bit,
then select AM29F400.

Do not forget to attach 12Volt DC power supply.

[mexanico1971]

Try to select a device Flash 29/39/49Fxxx,
and select 29Fx00 8/16bit,
then select AM29F400.

Do not forget to attach 12Volt DC power supply.

hi ! the problem was the program ! I have the pcb3 and do not work width 99d8 only 97ja !

another thing its clean very well the contact pins !

and I do the job !

thank you very much !

nice video !

[sogaro]

Is this well read? anyone to the rescue?
Download VOLVO s60.BIN from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way (http://www.sendspace.com/file/e8d9cv)

[busaman]

i use wellon vp480 so far had no problems with any chip including the am29fxxxx series.

[INEGMA]

PROGRAMMER EEPROM

[grinovsky]

i use willem with 98D12C3 soft version
PERFECT

[elchip]

I'll try it - New EZoFlash+. Parallel memory programmer. (http://www.ezoflash.com/). Now the stage of assembly. Assemble, test it, tell about it

Sorry for bad English

EzoFlash HW v4.5 is the best solution for smal amount of money , it work better then willem and last willem SW with it.

I was make and test many many times and newer false.

Always do ID first and if you dont get right ID from device do not program !
Check connection's and test again.

Regard's

[racin-snake]

GQ4X does 29F.200 /400/800 the adapter and tool are very cheap ..i use it for these and no problems so far

[VTS_Tibi]

I'm going to buy a Willem GQ-4X to read 29F200 (and such) flash memories.

There are two types of adapters for this job.

1. PSOP44 to DIP32 with socket

http://www.epromirok.hu/image/cache/data/psop44todip32_fogl-500x500.JPG

$72

2.PSOP44 to DIP32 adapter without socket

http://www.epromirok.hu/image/cache/data/psop44todip32-250x250.JPG

$8


so there's HUGE difference in price!!!! Will the board without a socket work with the Willem GQ-4X?


I've found this:

MCUmall EPROM BIOS Chip Burner Forum - AM29F200BB (problem) (http://www.mcumall.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2566&SearchTerms=29f200)

[grinovsky]

i have PSOP44 to DIP32 with socket
work perfect with 29fxxx
id,read,verify,erease,write,all perfect
but you need to clean well the pin of chip

[gtmech]

GQ4X does 29F.200 /400/800 the adapter and tool are very cheap ..i use it for these and no problems so far

GQ4X absolutely, it does the job very well indeed i agree

[VTS_Tibi]

ordered a GQ-4X and the cheaper adapter yesterday ;)

[elchip]

If someone need a extra low cost programmer look for TOP3000 I have one and it use 1:1 pin adapter's so it easy home made...
Good software and fast.

Regard's

[grinovsky]

read 29F200 from clio 1.5 dci ecu(ecu delphi)
perfect

[bram380]

With suitable programmer, 29f200 29f400 29f800 can reading & writing anytime.
I use smartpro-x8 & psop44 adapter.

[alfabit]

read 29F200 from clio 1.5 dci ecu(ecu delphi)
perfect
Your programmer is a willem, isn`t it ? I have one too, works for 29Fxxx perfect. But i use soldering adapter because of bad contact in socket, easier for me to use hot air tool than to dig for finding bad contacts

[grinovsky]

those who want to work find means
those who do not want to work find reasons

[gtmech]

ordered a GQ-4X and the cheaper adapter yesterday ;)

you wont regret it either :top:

[cange]

read 29F200 from clio 1.5 dci ecu(ecu delphi)
perfect

you did not used adational wires from adaptet to willem?

[grinovsky]

no,just put 29fxxx in his adapter(and diconnect "jumper28fxxx/29fxxx" in adapter and go go go
i never used adapter cable with willem
i read in other forum,that this cable must be connected to erease some 27cxxx electriquery
but i don't test it

[cange]

can someone check is this dump readed corectly its from mercedes w203 c180k chip am29f800
asking becose ak400 saiing its wrong size and dont show vin and part number

[cange]

no,just put 29fxxx in his adapter(and diconnect "jumper28fxxx/29fxxx" in adapter and go go go
i never used adapter cable with willem
i read in other forum,that this cable must be connected to erease some 27cxxx electriquery
but i don't test it

what about jumper ''open=3.6v'' on the psop adapter

[Harrycz44]

Hello all friends from DK. I have new willem 5,0 pcb and read OK flash 28f200 but can?t erase and write new data... any idea pleas?

[miha99]

willem 5,0 pcb must work on this flash, please clean legs on chip and make sure that contact between flash and adapter are very good also between adapter and programing port on programmer!!!

[foxdata]

hi all
i use super pro 580U to read and program 29f400 ...its work very good.

[Harrycz44]

willem 5,0 pcb must work on this flash, please clean legs on chip and make sure that contact between flash and adapter are very good also between adapter and programing port on programmer!!!

I use flash ab28f200 b5b80
u2111094y
What I must setting pleas on willem PCB?

[Harrycz44]

resolved, read erase write all ok now. ( better settings willem )

[btr]

You must use adapter for willem.
Better choice elnec beeprog and this adapter
http://www.tuningfiles.com/media/Tools/DIL44PSOP44_ZIF-CS.jpg

[Harrycz44]

Hello today I want try connect PIC F448 from op-com pcb
on schematic for this PIC is Vdd pin7, Vss pin6, RB6 pin16,RB7 pin 17, and vpp pin 18, on my willem ICSP are this pins Vpp connect to pin18, Vcc connect to ????, gnd ???, rb7 pin 17, rb6 pin 16... Pleas how connect Vss and Vdd? Must take out chip from PCB? thanks for help me

[PierreTheron]

Hello today I want try connect PIC F448 from op-com pcb
on schematic for this PIC is Vdd pin7, Vss pin6, RB6 pin16,RB7 pin 17, and vpp pin 18, on my willem ICSP are this pins Vpp connect to pin18, Vcc connect to ????, gnd ???, rb7 pin 17, rb6 pin 16... Pleas how connect Vss and Vdd? Must take out chip from PCB? thanks for help me
Hi n

Ask the seller of your programmer. surely must have a
forum??????????

[Azzx]

I use Weilei VP-280 with SOP44 adapter for 29F400, works correct.

[roth18]

I use BeeProg and PSOP adapter from obdfactory $900 (original, update from internet), never had a problem. I also have GQ-X4, it was crashing on me at times.

[k1champion]

i have willem pcb3 with PSOP44 to DIP32 i solder the chip read without problems but when i open with winolss i have this error "reading the eprom probably and adress line was defect "? any help ?

[mislav88]

check A19, probably you missed it

[k1champion]

thanks i check the box now i try and report this week :)

[electrix]

check A19, probably you missed it

For 29F400 flashes A19 must be disconnected.

[electrix]

i have willem pcb3 with PSOP44 to DIP32 i solder the chip read without problems but when i open with winolss i have this error "reading the eprom probably and adress line was defect "? any help ?

I also use Willem PCB3 for years and I never had any problems.
Check by multimeter all signals on ZIF socket with HW Test in software. If there's all OK maybe adapter has some mistake.
Upload some photos of Your PSOP44 adapter and jumper settings - maybe I could help You.

[racin-snake]

Using ADP-019 29F400BB on GQ-4X programmer mcumall - YouTube

been usin this for about a three years now does the job well

[PierreTheron]

Using ADP-019 29F400BB on GQ-4X programmer mcumall - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z18XMgMBAGw)

been usin this for about a three years now does the job well
This straight adaptor works well . at least got contact on bottom of pins as well.

PSOP44 socket adapter for chip programmer (http://www.greebid.com/wholesale/chip-programmer-socket-psop44-1204.html)

Certain you can remove old adaptor for willem and install this one.

Otherwise buy solder on adaptor.

Regards .

My problems been solved with double contact adaptor now .
Do not need to have lost time anymore on read and write these pescy bastards..


Regards

Pierre

[donesko]

Today I tried to write AM29F400 with willem pcb 5.5c,
Chip ID- ok
Read OK
Erase OK
Blank Test Ok
Write - Error at 0x00000000 Chip 0xc7 buffer 0xff ?
I select Fast Programing and than it stops at 4% with error at 0x005768
do I need 12v to write ? This 5.5c is powerd only by USB

[donesko]

Today I tried to write AM29F400 with willem pcb 5.5c,
Chip ID- ok
Read OK
Erase OK
Blank Test Ok
Write - Error at 0x00000000 Chip 0xc7 buffer 0xff ?
I select Fast Programing and than it stops at 4% with error at 0x005768
do I need 12v to write ? This 5.5c is powerd only by USB

solved, just connect psop adapter without connectig 8pin ribon cable

[Emmy]

whats the best programmer at the moment for read/write 29f400/29f200?
no matter how much.

thx

[obeidi]

Video from carlambimmo show read and write 29f400 by labtool-48uxp!

[pawl]

hello I use tl866-IIplus seems to be a good and cheap programmer

[obeidi]

I think labtool-48uxp is the best for flash 29f series !!!