Code Reader 2 Key Programmer VS AD900Pro VS Zedbull tell me what i need.

[learing1]

I am looking at the Code Reader 2 and it needs 35gb of hard drive space to decrypt 4D.

My needs.
4D / 4C Copy
Unlock Megamot 48
Prepare keys.
Program to IMMO in car

So vote what i buy to get my best coveraage.

#1 Code Reader 2 + ZED BULL
#1 Code Reader 2 + SBB
#3 AD900Pro + SBB
#4 Other

Also is ICC Calculator worth Purchaseing?

Tell my why please. Thanks in Advance.

[gopelhu]

Hi,

Please buy an original equipment but NOT a China copy !!!!

If you buy an original try these solution:

1: Transpronics=AD900Pro=Megacopy
2: Zed-Bull
3: SBB

The SBB work via diagnostic and this is the best !!!

The Zed-Bull with 4D module work with 4D without internet or without 4D module with internet (TPX2 and EH2).

Transpronics 4D work with internet only ( EH2 ).

ADvanced Diagnostic AD900Pro 4D work with internet or with 4D module without internet ( TPX2 or EH2 ).

So, my result is SBB+Zed-BULL.

Zed-BULL can do all requests that you need.

Regards,G

[learing1]

gopelhu thank for your reply. Everyone please put their 2 cents in. It would help me out.

I am now leaning towards zed bull original.

However i would consider sbb v28.05 or V31 copy based on savings.
I am looking at zed bull original as it looks like this unit really gets updates and ones well worth its cost.

If anyone else can offer and opinion. I mean RW4 + SBB is also a consideration.

[gopelhu]

Hi again,

Please contact Jos? Ignacio Romero at the International Sales Department of Elme Tools.
E-mail: jiromero@elmetools.com Web : www.elmetools.com (http://www.elmetools.com)

He may help you with Zed-BULL or Megacopy.

Regards,G

[foxtec800]

i use the origional zedbull daily for transponder work and also EEPROM this combined makes it the best option for me.
EEPROM earns good money and allows you do carry out work even the dealers cant do.. ie make chips for lost keys that have a master key system fiat/lexus/toyota etc..
ZEDBull a must go for OE the updates are always moving the machine forward,,and they are FREEE..

[learing1]

I have lots of good feedback.

Beware of clone Zed Bull.
Original Zed Bull is worth the investment.

How about code reader 2 or ad900pro copy
anyone have and comments or ad900 pro original.

Thanks so much for helping.

[MASTERLOCK]

hi,today i will be have code reader 2 i will test it and tell you.

[learing1]

hi,today i will be have code reader 2 i will test it and tell you.

OK great new. I have been interested. In how the software is and its abilityies. Code reader 2 costs way less than the original ZED BULL at about $550 (quoted by the place I order). And I am wondering why 32gb of HD space for 4D work.

This with a SBB and even with a copy Zed Bull tossed in could come to even much less than the original zed bull.

However I can't help thinking that the updates coming from ZED BULL (original) are worth its price. Really when purcahsing a copy you must assume NO Updates ever.

THanks so much.

[jamesnz888]

hi,today i will be have code reader 2 i will test it and tell you.

Hi m8,

I am considering buying Code Reader2 clone from China too and wondering if I can use it purely for copying 4C and 4D keys. I bought a AD900pro from China and it does NOT copy 4D to EH2 properly. it said copy "OK" and the code read exactly the same as the original 4D67, however we can NOT start the car. I talked to the seller and he admitted that AD900 pro can NOT copy 4D, he said I need a 4D copy machine to copy 4D.

In the end I think Code Reader2 may be one of the choices on the top of Zed Bull.


Please share your experience of Code Reader2 if you can. thanks

[learing1]

A few people I have got in contact with have mentioned Code reader 2 is slow and not worth it. Better to but a good zed bull copy (there are many copies) what is good.

Best to buy the original.

I am wondering how much the original will come to.

[gopelhu]

Hi,

The original Zed-BULL cost is 1700Euro+500Euro 4D stand alone module = 2200Euro + VAT.

Regards,G

[bob carr]

Hi m8,

I am considering buying Code Reader2 clone from China too and wondering if I can use it purely for copying 4C and 4D keys. I bought a AD900pro from China and it does NOT copy 4D to EH2 properly. it said copy "OK" and the code read exactly the same as the original 4D67, however we can NOT start the car. I talked to the seller and he admitted that AD900 pro can NOT copy 4D, he said I need a 4D copy machine to copy 4D.

In the end I think Code Reader2 may be one of the choices on the top of Zed Bull.


Please share your experience of Code Reader2 if you can. thanks

hi, i recently used a machine called texclone hooked up with a pc and it worked for all 4c and 4d chips, but it only copies with the electronic chip (with battery type) and it has no problem with any of the 4c and 4d chips ( i hav only tried on toyota and ford).

[jamesnz888]

hi, i recently used a machine called texclone hooked up with a pc and it worked for all 4c and 4d chips, but it only copies with the electronic chip (with battery type) and it has no problem with any of the 4c and 4d chips ( i hav only tried on toyota and ford).

thanks,Bob.
Yes,ails bought a Texclone from China and some Chinese made EH2 compatible electronic circuit in hoping that I can use it to copy most keys(4D&4C). Will post results once done. Bob, is yours Chinese Texclone or genuine Silca one? What kind of electronic key you used to copy?

[NZBJ1]

Hi I have a Code Reader 2, had it for 2 months and found it to be very good.
It clones all the usual chips & it does TPX1 & 2 100% so far, and of course the circuit board keys.
It can be a bit slow to crack 4D sometimes a 5 minutes, but other times it is less than 1 minute.
I have only just started doing eeprom key generation but did a Toyota Privia 4C no worries.

Previously we used a Chinese AD90 and a RW3-Texcode. Code reader is miles ahead better to use.

[garvo411]

I have just purchased a code reader 2 but came with corrupt files on dvd8. does anyone have files
adv_10_00.ta
adv_10_01.ta
adv_10_02.ta
adv_10_03.ta
adv_10_31.ta
from dvd 8 if anyone could upload will be much appreciated.

[garvo411]

I have since found those files hopefully they are a good copy. will upload if anygood thanks

[mavi]

Hello all

i have a ad900pro with problem detect the ad900 pro with unknown device someone now here is the usb drivers atmega??

Regards

Mavi

[autocrypto]

I am looking at the Code Reader 2 and it needs 35gb of hard drive space to decrypt 4D.

My needs.
4D / 4C Copy
Unlock Megamot 48
Prepare keys.
Program to IMMO in car

So vote what i buy to get my best coveraage.

#1 Code Reader 2 + ZED BULL
#1 Code Reader 2 + SBB
#3 AD900Pro + SBB
#4 Other

Also is ICC Calculator worth Purchaseing?

Tell my why please. Thanks in Advance.

Hi,

The 5 most reliable equipment to transponder cloning are MEGACOPY=AD900PRO from Elmetools and Advanced Diagnostics, ZEDBULL from Mercokey, RW4 from Silca, TRS5000 from JMA and Bianchi from Keyline. I only work with genuine equipment, I dont work with china clones. This equipment is used to cloning, to generate transponders to program in the car, to produce transponders for ECU dump, etc. I will go explain the principal functions:

1) Cloning id:13, 33 and 40
All equipment clone to T5

2) Cloning id:41, 42, 44, and 45
AD900 pro clone all to the same virgin transponder
Zedbull clone all to 4 virgin transponder
RW4 clone all to 4 virgin transponder (very expensive transponders)
TRS500 only clone id:41
Bianchi ??? but I thing not

3) Cloning id:4C and 4D
AD900 pro clone all to virgin transponders TPX1(4C) and TPX2(4D) or to TK40 and EH2 electronic heads
Zedbull clone all to TPX1 and TPX2 (and EH2/TK40 ???)
RW4 clone all to EH2
TRS5000 clone all to TPX1 and TPX2
Bianchi clone all to TK40

4) Cloning id:46
AD900 pro clone to TK60 electronic head and in a near future to TPX3
Zedbull clone to TK60 and in a near future to TPX3
RW4 clone to EHP electronic head
TRS5000 clone to TPX3
Bianchi clone to TK60

5) Generating id:13 and 33 to program in the car
All equipment, manualy and random

6) Generating id: 40, 41, 42, 44 and 45 to program in the car
AD900 pro generate all to PCF7935
Zedbull generate all to PCF7935
RW4 no
TRS5000 no
Bianchi no

7) Generating id:33 rolling (Mercedes)
AD900 yes
Zedbull yes
RW4 no
TRS5000 no
Bianchi no

8) Generating id:4D to program in the car
AD900 and Zedbull generate some types
All the others no

9) Generating id:46 to program in the car
AD900 pro many brands and models
Zedbull a litle bit more brands and models
all the others no

10) Precoding id:48 CAN for VAG group
Only AD900 pro can precoding 48 CAN
All the others no

11) Calculate pin and produce transponders from ECU dump
AD900 pro more than 100 diferent ECU's
Zedbull more than 150 (more or less) diferent ECU's
All the others no

12) Other functions
AD900 and Zedbull are capable of several other functions that you dont find in the other equipment. See the software or the manual.

Technical note: The MEGACOPY=AD900pro and the Zedbull are the more professional equipment and with more functions. AD900 pro is more reliable than Zedbull.

Personal note: The stand alone modules are the bad choice. Dont have upgrades and are more expensive. The PC connection (and Internet) are the choice for the future. Are easy upgradable are more cheaper and are the first to present the new functions (is more easy to develop a software than a stand alone module). To me the best choice is MEGACOPY=AD900 pro for cloning and generating transponders and to produce transponders by ECU for some models. If you think to produce transponders from the ECU dump to many models the Zedbull (is more cheaper in this case).

With MEGACOPY or ZEDBULL you dont need ICC Calculator.

For now its all folks ...

[willywonker2010]

hi

thats a nice write up

well done clears a few things up

cheers

[autocrypto]

Hi,

I have received several pm's from Clearly about Tango equipment. I think is usefull for all to make a new post only about Tango.

Tango is a very good and reliable equipment for the producion of transponders from ECU dump. Is not a transponder cloning equipment, clone only several simple transponders and dont work with some very used transponders like TPX1, TPX2 and TPX3, and do not generate transponders to program (by OBD) in the car.

Tango calculate the pin code and produce transponders (ready to start the car) for more than 250 diferent ECU's. Is the equipment with more ECU systems that I know.

[autocrypto]

Hi,

In this case they are 2 options:

1) You generate a transponder with the transponder cloning equipment (AD900PRO/MEGACOPY or ZEDBULL) and you go to the car and program the new keys by OBD (T-CODE, SBB or ZEDBULL with OBD cables).

2) You remove the immo ECU from the car, desolder the EEPROM, read the EEPROM with the EEPROM reader, produce a new transponder (with TANGO, AD900PRO/MEGACOPY or ZEDBULL) you can also calculate the pin code. Solder the EEPROM, reinstall the immo ECU to the car and start the car with new key. In some cases you need to program the new key in the car by OBD (T-CODE, SBB or ZEDBULL with OBD cables).

Note: some car systems dont have OBD communications to program new keys. In this case you only have the option 2).

When is possible the option 1) is more fast, more easy and more cheaper. For many systems you need the pin code, but some equipment like T-CODE, SBB and ZEDBULL can read the pin code by OBD.

[DottoreBL]

Can u explane me about this:

10) Precoding id:48 CAN for VAG group
Only AD900 pro can precoding 48 CAN
All the others no

What this mean ? I can made a key for Golf V 2007 ?

[autocrypto]

Can u explane me about this:

10) Precoding id:48 CAN for VAG group
Only AD900 pro can precoding 48 CAN
All the others no

What this mean ? I can made a key for Golf V 2007 ?

Hi,

Yes.

1) You go to the car with T-Code connect to OBD and get the pin code and the code for precoding 48 CAN.

2) You go to AD900PRO or MEGACOPY and precode a transponder 48 CAN VOLKSWAGEN with the code get by T-Code.

3) You put the transponder to the key and go to the car to program with T-Code and the pin code read in point 1).

Fast, simple and reliable.

For Audi, Seat and Skoda is the same procedure, you only need to use transponder 48CAN Audi, 48CAN Seat and 48CAN Skoda.

[DottoreBL]

One more stupid question, what is T Code ?

Thanx for youre time ;)

[autocrypto]

One more stupid question, what is T Code ?

Thanx for youre time ;)

Hi,

T-Code is the best equipment to program keys and remotes and to get pin codes from the car by OBD communications. Is available in several options PRO, MPV and others.

[DottoreBL]

I Have TPS Silca, but it only works with K-Line ...


I found China T300,is it worth to buy ?

Tnx ;)

[autocrypto]

I Have TPS Silca, but it only works with K-Line ...


I found China T300,is it worth to buy ?

Tnx ;)

Hi,

T300 dont have the same software as T-Code PRO. I only use genuine equipment, dont use china clones. The T-Code is a very expensive equipment, but is allways the first to make the new systems and work with allmost the car brands.

[Fallen]

Good info mate, I have a quick question.
I often run out of T4 (C4) chips. Can I clone a T4 onto a T5 and have the car accept it as a T4? Eg, if I had to make keys to an early rav 4 but only had T5 chips.

[autocrypto]

Good info mate, I have a quick question.
I often run out of T4 (C4) chips. Can I clone a T4 onto a T5 and have the car accept it as a T4? Eg, if I had to make keys to an early rav 4 but only had T5 chips.

Hi,

No. The Toyota RAV 4 (1996 to 2004) use a Texas fix transponder ID: 4C (not C4). You only can clone this transponder to TPX1 (JMA) or to EH2 electronic head (Silca) or TK40 electronic head (Keyline). You cannot clone 4C transponders to T5.

[DottoreBL]

Hi,

T300 dont have the same software as T-Code PRO. I only use genuine equipment, dont use china clones. The T-Code is a very expensive equipment, but is allways the first to make the new systems and work with allmost the car brands.

AD100Pro or MVP Pro and the VAG software, that what Advanced Diagnostic say to me ?

Is that ok ?

Thanx :wavey:

[autocrypto]

AD100Pro or MVP Pro and the VAG software, that what Advanced Diagnostic say to me ?

Is that ok ?

Thanx :wavey:

Hi,

You need AD900PRO=MEGACOPY with the software 48 CAN precode and the T-Code MVP with all the VAG software. (normally MPV come with all software and tokens, PRO is free (no tokens) but you need to buy software by software).

You have 2 official distributors for this equipment Advanced Diagnostics and ElmeTools (codificacion de llaves, tcode, transponder (http://www.elmetools.com))

[key point]

Personaly

I would recomend the AVDI for precoding VAG models
as the Tpro and ad900 can only do eraly models
that have 7bytes of data were most cars now only show 6
and with the avdi you can find the 7th

or if you can read the dump fromthe clusters
the Tango can prodduce you transponder ready to start
as well let you make a can tp22/23/24/25 from a normal ID48

i bought mine from
very nice people

clearly
Agree with above, AVDI is the best or maybe the only effective tool on market for VAG precoding. Ive only read 2 posts on AD900 precode and both failed to start the car. Anyone had success precoding with AD900?

[JIMMYQ]

got a call to do a 2007 golf gti whats guaranteed to do this and the newer vw's? tcode pro or avdi if so wheres the best place to buy it from and costs? has anyone succeeded with 07 golfs etc?

[clearly]

Personaly i would recomend the

AVDI+ KeyTool SW

or The Tango


thats if you want to stay ahead of the game

AD may be starting to do CP on Vag
but these people have been doing them for years
and this is old new

New is mk6 golf and the latest Audi A4
so for Tcode and Ad900 wait another 3 years

:manuflag:

[rapidlocksmiths]

avdi leads the way at present in precoding vag keys , advanced diagnostics have just released the new software thats supposed to have much bigger coverage now , lockdecoders offer vag dealer key coverage with their vag can and key crypt software and zedbull are launching their vag dealer key software and lead in the next few weeks.

dont get sucked in by the copy avdi and vag software offered in china at present as all but the Q7 dealer key functions are missing from their lists, so of little use.

id always advise genuine equipment , these get regular updates and they get support and you have a comeback with them if the shit hits fan.

genuine zedbull is so much more than just a cloner , its second to none for cloning coverage, transponder production and has full tpx 1 2 and 3 coverage now. this coupled with the eeprom functions and obd key programming functions make it a superb bit of kit , that with dealer key preperation and programming about to be released with their new vag lead , they are on the heels of avdi.

ad900 pro original has new vag dealer key software now and gets updates and support .

avdi still leads the way , but you pay for this advantage , but make the advantage pay and its the best on the market.

clones will cost you more long term as become outdated so quickly now.

[Dylan Chin]

Hi,how about Tmpro?

[gixerke]

Hi.

I want buy key programmer, and i don't know which is the best!
I see the ad900 and zed-bull!
If you now buying the programmer which one would you buy?

[gixerke]

Please help me!

[obdmaster]

Hi.

I want buy key programmer, and i don't know which is the best!
I see the ad900 and zed-bull!
If you now buying the programmer which one would you buy?


Both ad900 and zed bull are key cloners ( take it chinese version??), they dont plug into car they copy transponders, and produce transponders from dump.

I would personally say of the two the zed bull clone is better m8:D

[gixerke]

Both ad900 and zed bull are key cloners ( take it chinese version??), they dont plug into car they copy transponders, and produce transponders from dump.

I would personally say of the two the zed bull clone is better m8:D


Thank you very much, then i buy one zed-bull clone!
I can read the pin from immo with zed-bull, because you write dont plug into car!?

[obdmaster]

Thank you very much, then i buy one zed-bull clone!
I can read the pin from immo with zed-bull, because you write dont plug into car!?


You can read pin from immo if you remove immo unit, remove chip read chip, input information from chip, into zed bull software voila you have pin.


If your hoping reading pins by obd m8, zed bull clone is not for you.:boring:

[gixerke]

You can read pin from immo if you remove immo unit, remove chip read chip, input information from chip, into zed bull software voila you have pin.


If your hoping reading pins by obd m8, zed bull clone is not for you.:boring:

Thank you very much! I understand!


Regards!

[labusas]

Can anybody share their experience with Code Reader 2 clone?
How's there 4d cloning function? What else is working or NOT?

[jamesnz888]

Can anybody share their experience with Code Reader 2 clone?
How's there 4d cloning function? What else is working or NOT?

Hi

I have CR2 for about 4 months and found it is great, it copies 4D onto Silca Eh2 or JMA TPX2. however you need to have a proper PC to do 4D as performance of PC may affect the time it needs to completes.

if you do buy CR2 then buy the one comes with hard disk, do not buy the one with DVD because it is known problematic. PM me if you need more info.

[kralkilit]

Hi brother


:bawling:
pls help me,,i need pin code for peugeot car,it is 407 and vin number:VF36D9HZC21696526




Regards,M

[garvo411]

Hi brother


:bawling:
pls help me,,i need pin code for peugeot car,it is 407 and vin number:VF36D9HZC21696526




Regards,M

Nice first post. Maybe try introducing yourself first. Then take a look around. There will be a more appropriate topic to request your pin and you will get help faster.

[mikeslocks]

Working on a loader for the china clone avdi immo7.0 got it making first check come back ok got every thing litup (thanks for using vb) but checks again for device when reading from bin, need to emulate clone avdi. Want it to work for cs calc.

[jamesnz888]

Working on a loader for the china clone avdi immo7.0 got it making first check come back ok got every thing litup (thanks for using vb) but checks again for device when reading from bin, need to emulate clone avdi. Want it to work for cs calc.

Mate,


I do not know what you try to say, can you provide more details.

[pe locksmiths]

Hi ,

I've got a original Z-bull with Zed-Prog.
Where can I get the cables for obd programming mate

Thanks Andries