mg rover oval key fob

[ninja123]

:banghead:hi all, can any one help with any info on coding fobs on the later mg rovers with the pektron bcu? all fobs lost and eka code wont work:banghead:

[parapilot]

Take out control module, pax side under glove box, and read eeprom 93C66. Post dump here, with the barcode of the remotes you need added and it can be done easy enough.

Jamie

[ninja123]

what equipment would i need, i have mvp and sbb but both dont support this system.

[parapilot]

no kit needed its all programmed on the bench with lost keys, its common for no comms and EKA not to work if you dont have a working fob.

If you are ok reading eeproms, then your programmer is all you need, post the dump up here,

If your not sure what im going on about when i say eeprom or 93C66 etc, I'd suggest you send the box of to someone who can program them in for you. Im on the wirral, if you want me to do it, PM me.

J

[ninja123]

:barscarf:thanks for the info mate, but ive just managed to get a ecu set and fob from a local breakers yard for next to nothing, all up and running- but i am trying to get my hands on an eeprom reader/programmer to use on these 8 pin serial eeproms, I used to dabble in electronics when mobile phones were first about but ive become a bit of a dinosaur now, just trying to jump back on the bus!! Could you advise me of a supplier?? Once again, many thanks for your help

[Meat-Head]

COOL.

On the old unit, try shorting pin 1 of said 93c66 chip to earth, power up unit, realease pin 1 try then.

Oh wear ear defenders as the siren will go divvy, sorry

[PierreTheron]

COOL.

On the old unit, try shorting pin 1 of said 93c66 chip to earth, power up unit, realease pin 1 try then.

Oh wear ear defenders as the siren will go divvy, sorry
Hi
Never wanted to ask you a question.(Because you always say you know nothing but noting)
But this can not be avoided now.
What do you mean with above post?
Can i get existing fob to work again that way.
Have got t300 clone.
It seems you must get all units online before you can get them to be commanded in your direction.
So first force and then they follow.I am in a bit of a situation here.Chk thrd about rover scu.
Rgds
I tried shorting pin 1
This how i did it.
Disconnect car battery.
Short pin 1 93lc66
Connect car battery
Remove short pin 1
No siren
Cannot get eka code inputted by doorlock(Anyway You can with persistence)

P_:coffin:How do i shut siren down.?//

[valdirld]

Hi, i have discovery 2004, buyed new key, and need adapt , but not have the EKA code. can i imput manually new bar code in \Bcu?
or if possible extract EKA from dump
where can help me?
on key barcode:
*H40DA9940DA98FF7*
*FFFFFFFFBF2566-*
THANKS

[PierreTheron]

:congrats:
Hi, i have discovery 2004, buyed new key, and need adapt , but not have the EKA code. can i imput manually new bar code in \Bcu?
or if possible extract EKA from dump
where can help me?
on key barcode:
*H40DA9940DA98FF7*
*FFFFFFFFBF2566-*
THANKS
I solved my rover Mg

This seems old post from you valdrid ...
Did you get your vehicle to be a runner again..:hmmmm2::hmmmm2::hmmmm2:

Regards

[PierreTheron]

Hi

Can anyone help with dump to write in 3 Xnew remotes.

Here are barcodes for new remotes.
.
NB9488C610405089660911 433MHZ

NB3488C61040508966337+ 433Mhz

012158260040416657464A 315Mhz

And here are dump.

Help would be much appreciated...:bandit::bandit:

Regards
Pierre

[nutloose]

I'll have a look tomorrow down the workshop

[nutloose]

try this
(remotes of both frequencies added)

[PierreTheron]

Hi
Nutloose

Thanks
I prepared 2 SCu's
One from the car and another one i had here.
The Car started With the other Scu and 315Mhz Remote..
Coded an extra 315Mhz in with T300 with no problems.

Thanks for another
Runner
Regards
Pierre

[v8 dave]

try this
(remotes of both frequencies added)

What programme did you use to do this if you don't mind me asking?

[ninja123]

Hi all, I need to add 2 new remotes to this dump, FROM A ROVER STREETWISE 2005, pektron scu, any help would be super!
new remote 1 N68213561040434534564B
new remote 2 NDB053561040434532289P

heres dump

[v8 dave]

Here you go, fobs added to position 3+4

37894

[Meat-Head]

Here you go, fobs added to position 3+4

37894

AWESOME dude.

1) what did you use to modify the dump?
2) Could you use that dump to make the first two keys 'reuseable'
with T4 say?
3) How did you make the attatment in the reply rather than below?

Thanks

Meaty.

[obdmaster]

AWESOME dude.

1) what did you use to modify the dump?
2) Could you use that dump to make the first two keys 'reuseable'
with T4 say?
3) How did you make the attatment in the reply rather than below?

Thanks

Meaty.


Join here m8,
http://www.3dgroupuk.com/index.php

they sell the rover pektron software that i imagine v8 dave used

[Meat-Head]

Join here m8,
3D Group Uk - Nottinghamshires Autolocksmiths (http://www.3dgroupuk.com/index.php)

they sell the rover pektron software that i imagine v8 dave used

Thanks. We see if can do during the week, with my fictitious Name and Company :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::rofl mao:

[v8 dave]

AWESOME dude.

1) what did you use to modify the dump?
2) Could you use that dump to make the first two keys 'reuseable'
with T4 say?
3) How did you make the attatment in the reply rather than below?

Thanks

Meaty.

1. Hex workshop. I spent a while going through the dumps working out where the barcodes were entered, and coupled with PierreTheron confirming what I'd suspected, it's actually p*ss easy to add fobs direct to the dump by bit banging.

2. I guess so, but why use T4? Empty slots are just FF'd. Assume you mean fobs rather than keys too, as the keys are not chipped. When I get home I might put up a better explanation of how it's done. Just search my previous posts to see the thread I'm talking about.

3. In the advanced reply option, click the attchments button, select manage attachments, upload what you need, then select them from the pull down list next to the attachments button.

[v8 dave]

Join here m8,
3D Group Uk - Nottinghamshires Autolocksmiths (http://www.3dgroupuk.com/index.php)

they sell the rover pektron software that i imagine v8 dave used

Good god no, just do it the Hex editor way, why spend beer money on software that does something that's already easy! :)

What I really want is a programme to pick apart a TD5 Land Rover 93c*6 dump so I can find out where the injector codes are. Nothing I can find will do it for me unless I fork out best part of ?350 for a Nanocom and read it back :(

[PierreTheron]

Hi
Why . when the old remotes are locked , can you unlock them this way as well without T300?

Already under way to buy this software.

I know that you can use the old bar codes and remotes from damaged SCU again on another SCU with this software.

It just seems easier to use the software than to work out and edit everything..

[v8 dave]

Hi
Why . when the old remotes are locked , can you unlock them this way as well without T300?

Already under way to buy this software.

I know that you can use the old bar codes and remotes from damaged SCU again on another SCU with this software.

It just seems easier to use the software than to work out and edit everything..

This is true, but I do this as a hobby, so all software and tools are funded by me; if I can get away without spending money, then I don't mind doing the hard way!

I didn't say it was pointless software, just that I can do what I need to without it!

[PierreTheron]

Special thanks to v8dave for helping on this one.

Meaty if the bar codes from a faulty SCU are moved over to a good SCU there are no need for anything else. Just plug in the good SCU with the added remotes and drive away .Just remember the vin number is important as well...
So you can collect some old SCU's with remotes and start unlocking them.

Let see what ninja 123 say , His dump is the test now .

Cannot wait for him to report back.??



:congrats::congrats:

[v8 dave]

Special thanks to v8dave for helping on this one.

Meaty if the bar codes from a faulty SCU are moved over to a good SCU there are no need for anything else. Just plug in the good SCU with the added remotes and drive away .Just remember the vin number is important as well...
So you can collect some old SCU's with remotes and start unlocking them.

Let see what ninja 123 say , His dump is the test now .

Cannot wait for him to report back.??

:congrats::congrats:


I've just noticed that it's an old dump that you and I discussed; I should have put the fobs in 1+2.

I've had a few people use dumps I've edited but as ever, no one ever reports back :(

I've also nearly finished a MEMS sync rig, and have now picked apart the 3 pin - 16 pin wiring, so am going to test that shortly too :)

[ninja123]

Hi all, might be a day or two before i can get back to this job, but rest assured i will post back results.
ALSO, with reference to LOCKED scu's, what needs to be done to unlock, this is doing my head in now, as i am aware of someone having there scu unlocked and both original fobs are working again, but not sure if was damp and just got ripped off!!
Will reply with results asap.
regards the ninja

[v8 dave]

Not sure what needs to be done to unlock it TBH, think it's 'locked' from a T300 point of view I.E. no diagnostics or reprogramming short of reading dump for barcodes and virginising/reprogramming.

I know Avon Diagnostic have a neat little machine, but guess it probably brute forces the immo code to make it think it's talked to the proper fob.

[Meat-Head]

ground pin 1 of 93C46 (whatever) then power up unit - wear ear defenders sirens going to whail a bit

[v8 dave]

Scrapyard trip on saturday :)

[ninja123]

MEATHEAD, exactly what does earthing this pin do? Does it unlock scu and original fobs start working again?
And how long does it take for the siren to shut the ~~~~~ up?
regards the ninja

[Meat-Head]

Scrapyard trip on saturday :)


Take big hammer and take note of wire color for siren - not black, not purple but????



MEATHEAD, exactly what does earthing this pin do? Does it unlock scu and original fobs start working again?
And how long does it take for the siren to shut the ~~~~~ up?
regards the ninja


about 10 mins to shut up
resets the 93C66 internal programme!

Try it you mite like it


VERY LATE FOR WORK

BYE

[v8 dave]

Dunno what it is on the Pektron, but I know it's pin 6 on the 5AS module; it switches the negative side of the horn.

[PierreTheron]

[QUOTE=Meat-Head;838097]Take big hammer and take note of wire color for siren - not black, not purple but????





about 10 mins to shut up
resets the 93C66 internal programme!

Try it you mite like it


VERY LATE FOR WORK


Yeez, Meaty now eventually you answer my question about the pin shorting of 93c66. Will try that next time i get a rover with locked SCU . You can just stick a cat in the horn or unplug it if it bothers the neigbours.

Some pdf files to have a look at!

[Meat-Head]

Yeez, Meaty now eventually you answer my question about the pin shorting of 93c66. Will try that next time i get a rover with locked SCU . You can just stick a cat in the horn or unplug it if it bothers the neigbours.

Some pdf files to have a look at!


Sorry didn't realise had ignored you - just send a PM or jkick in vistor messages if needed.

If no cat is available will a smelly dawg do?

[v8 dave]

I'm suspecting more and more that it's being brute forced to unlock by simulating a fob. Easy way to check would be a near field receiver to see what RF mush it kicks out.

?45 is a nice price to stick a test clip onto a SOIC 8 and click read.

[ninja123]

?45 is a very nice price to find out!!
I may try this on the next nail that comes my way!
regards the ninja

[ninja123]

does anyone know how much this kit costs from avon? tried their site, cant get any joy, also, I cant log on to 3d group trade section, anyone else got probs or just me?
regards the ninja

[Meat-Head]

does anyone know how much this kit costs from avon? tried their site, cant get any joy, also, I cant log on to 3d group trade section, anyone else got probs or just me?
regards the ninja

You need to phone or e-mail them to get a log in from them

If they or any member of their company is reading this
YOUR AMAZING THANK YOU AVON DIAGNOSTIC

M-H-M do not have a login. Did registrar as a member of M-H-M Parent Company with them and have brought stuff under a different user name :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

FANTASTIC PRICES, FANTASTIC SERVICE.

The only down side is the divvy cow that answers the phone!

Best to e-mail them

Meaty.

[obdmaster]

does anyone know how much this kit costs from avon? tried their site, cant get any joy, also, I cant log on to 3d group trade section, anyone else got probs or just me?
regards the ninja

Unlock scu tool from avon ?300 probably plus vat. I also think it replicates a working fob.

[ninja123]

MEATY, who's M-H-M?:hmmmm2:

[Meat-Head]

MEATY, who's M-H-M?

ADVERTISEMENT:-

M-H-M Stands for Meat-Head-Motors. We are an internet based
company specializing in damage to motor vehicles. Only found on
a limited number of forums.

Most garages from time to time break things on a customers car by accident, we specialize in it.

Ever accidently scratched a customers wing with the zip on your coat?
Accidently opened a customers car door onto another car or wall chipping off paint? Driven over a pop rivet and punctured a customers tyre? Cross threaded an important bolt? Rounded of screw heads?

We do this daily day in day out 6 days a week

We are based in Meat-City in Meat-Headshire - located between London and Scotland. :roflmao::roflmao:

Visit our (pants) website

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Oh if my profile turns a funny grey colour you know admin have had me for advertising - against DK Rules to advertise on here :roflmao::roflmao:

[v8 dave]

I could totally make that site better :P

I reckon I used to work for your lot you know too lol

[Meat-Head]

I could totally make that site better :P

I reckon I used to work for your lot you know too lol

It is one of them 'free' sites - paid for the name - we have your money now ~~~~ off.

It really is hard word to do anything with - the e-mail thing on last page don't work! Total pants.

"Z786 Motors" and "OBDMaster Motors" both come up in one hit on google! - well if you know the name of their parent companies they do

If it had some kind of 'second user' would give you a password - but
but NO OFFENSE bit doubious of givving password out - told Devilfish it lol - if you can't trust him then bail out!

Just hassle if goes wrong - like updating key programmer!

[v8 dave]

Nah, no offence taken; I'll knock you up something in the next few days to look at. Got me driving test on Wednesday (don't ask, long story - too busy doing the IAM double ****er shuffle at the moment to even think of work)

[Meat-Head]

Nah, no offence taken; I'll knock you up something in the next few days to look at.


MORE BANNED ADVERTISING:-

Yeah cool. Would have to e-mail the people got the name/site from
but if it's good enough then transfer it. THANKS

If you do it at Free Website Builder - Moonfruit - Beautiful websites, simply (http://www.moonfruit.com) - see if can be easyer to swap over.

THANKS

[v8 dave]

No worries; anything is better than that dreck moonfruit pedal

[PierreTheron]

Hi all, I need to add 2 new remotes to this dump, FROM A ROVER STREETWISE 2005, pektron scu, any help would be super!
new remote 1 N68213561040434534564B
new remote 2 NDB053561040434532289P

heres dump


Hi
Added the 2 remotes with pectron software. If you still have the 2 remotes that are in the dump you can activate them as well.. with t300..
Regards

[v8 dave]

Interesting; it doesn't do it any different to the bit banging method.

Any chance you can post some screen shots of the software in use?

[PierreTheron]

Interesting; it doesn't do it any different to the bit banging method.

Any chance you can post some screen shots of the software in use?

There is difference between the file if you look with hex editor in textfile.. If it is important, we must wait for ninja 123 to tell.

This is how the screen looks like .http://www.keyprogrammers.com/Pektron3.htm

You open the file it tells you that the file is recognised and then show the existing bar codes.

You press on remote button and you add the remote barcode and then do the next one the same way.
You save the file and you are done.

[ninja123]

Hi all, still not got to sort this one yet, i had a spare ecu/scu/fob set, so sent customer on their way and told to come back to have job finnished, might be next week now.
I am getting as impaitient as everyone, I need to sort this one so we all know what to do in future.
Rest assured, I WILL POST BACK THE RESULTS.
Pierre, whats the difference with your file to the other method, and why need to unlock old fobs with t300, cant software do this??
regards, the ninja:champions:

[ninja123]

JUst been studying the 2 modified dumps, the first just by adding the bar codes in the correct place, and then the one from pierre supplied from the pektron software.
Very few differences, but, there are differences, instead of FF after the barcode, there is 00, and after the added remote (it looks like pierre only added the one) there is a 01 instead of an 4A
Maybe this is the difference between a locked fob and a working one??
only time will tell, i will be on the fone to customer tomorow to get car back (will tell her it will blow up in 2 days!!!!!)
regards the ninja:champions:

[Meat-Head]

JUst been studying the 2 modified dumps

Ok cool

1) Whilst you are sifting through other peoples dumps you could see
if you can identify the engine 'pairing' code

2) Just for fun - assuming this is possable can Pieere - re-do
the other dumps with his software to lock out the first two remotes
and/or modify a dump by member Nutloose from other threads

then we can be sure if this is remote lock out or not

AWESOME job guys

Meat.

[v8 dave]

Take big hammer and take note of wire color for siren - not black, not purple but????

Blue/Green;

Now sitting here trying to pick apart a pair of looms to make my 5AS coding rig :)

I should be at work...

[Meat-Head]

MEATY, who's M-H-M?:hmmmm2:


I reckon I used to work for your lot you know too lol


I should be at work...



Then it that you should know better ALWAYS think of yourself first - don't worry if customer's are waiting - always me - me -me.

LOL :wavey:

[PierreTheron]

Hi all, still not got to sort this one yet, i had a spare ecu/scu/fob set, so sent customer on their way and told to come back to have job finnished, might be next week now.
I am getting as impaitient as everyone, I need to sort this one so we all know what to do in future.
Rest assured, I WILL POST BACK THE RESULTS.
Pierre, whats the difference with your file to the other method, and why need to unlock old fobs with t300, cant software do this??
regards, the ninja:champions:
Remember my first Mg TF i played with T300 and locked out the remotes.

Nutloose could not unlock it with this software with the dumps he created for me. I did not have a remote with barcode to add. Then with T300 i could pair the old remotes in the SCU.

I will ask creator of this soft if they can modify it so that you can unlock the remotes.
Regards

[PierreTheron]

JUst been studying the 2 modified dumps, the first just by adding the bar codes in the correct place, and then the one from pierre supplied from the pektron software.
Very few differences, but, there are differences, instead of FF after the barcode, there is 00, and after the added remote (it looks like pierre only added the one) there is a 01 instead of an 4A
Maybe this is the difference between a locked fob and a working one??
only time will tell, i will be on the fone to customer tomorow to get car back (will tell her it will blow up in 2 days!!!!!)
regards the ninja:champions:


Just tell her that the Vin Number in set you installed is not same as that of the Ecu and Chassis number . So you need to correct it before she goes through roadblock and get locked up for stolen car or part of it ..:motz::motz::motz:

[PierreTheron]

Hi all, I need to add 2 new remotes to this dump, FROM A ROVER STREETWISE 2005, pektron scu, any help would be super!
new remote 1 N68213561040434534564B
new remote 2 NDB053561040434532289P

heres dump

hI

Here file with two remotes added in 3 and 4.

Regards

[ninja123]

hi all, i have eventually got car booked in for next tuesday, told customer i need to return ecu set to other customers car before collection!!
Regards the ninja

[ninja123]

hi all,
Got rover back early after head gasket failed!!!
Fixed engine and re fitted old ecu set with frist dump modified manually.
NOT WORKED.
Removed 93lc66a eeprom to upload pierres dump made with software.
With new rework station in hand, i proceeded to blow the chip off the board.
Then, grabbed eeprom with 3m test clip to program and 2 legs broke off chip.
Now im ~~~~ed.
Any 1 know where i can get a chip to replace, or will a 93 eeprom from a mems 3 ecu do (i have a few of them so i dont mind butchering a few!).
Regards the ninja.

[Meat-Head]

hi all,
Got rover back early after head gasket failed!!!

Then, grabbed eeprom with 3m test clip to program and 2 legs broke off chip.
Now im ~~~~ed.
Any 1 know where i can get a chip to replace, or will a 93 eeprom from a mems 3 ecu do


Head gasket :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

Slightly out of my league here -

a) Download replacement off ebay - i ended up when killed my programming tool
b) Scrap yard - find a fiat Shiticenco or simular fiat puntoII
(do a search on here for reference) and download one out of one of them
c) PremiarD said "Fitting an elephant into a phonebox"
unable to upload 93C66 file to see if 'short enough' to fit on 93c46
d) Clifford car alarms
e) Go to local - computer shop and download an "Ethernet card" for
$1 and TRY 93C46 off it - not seen one without one yet
f) Cobera car alarm (later ones)

[v8 dave]

I was lazy and pasted those remotes into your dump on the end. I have now (via the hex workshop method) pasted over the two original remotes.

I'd love to know if this works?

39663

[PierreTheron]

hi all,
With new rework station in hand, i proceeded to blow the chip off the board.
Then, grabbed eeprom with 3m test clip to program and 2 legs broke off chip.
Now im ~~~~ed.
Any 1 know where i can get a chip to replace, or will a 93 eeprom from a mems 3 ecu do (i have a few of them so i dont mind butchering a few!).
Regards the ninja.


From here.
MICROCHIP|93LC66A-I/P|EEPROM SERIAL 4KB, SMD, PDIP8 | Farnell United Kingdom (http://uk.farnell.com/microchip/93lc66a-i-p/eeprom-serial-4kb-smd-pdip8/dp/1331470), Order 10 for next time.
Get old SCU from srapyard.

Keep heat gun airspeed on 4 or 5 , never higher.

Easy to de solder from pectron board these chips with 15 mm nossle. Just watch for soldering to get shiny and lift off.

[ninja123]

thanks v8 dave, but i now need to wait for replacement eeprom to try.
Meaty, You never done a head gasket on a rover???
I have a go at allmost everthing round here except cleaning them!!
Will post back asap,
The ninja

[Meat-Head]

Meaty, You never done a head gasket on a rover???


No we just specialist in damage nower days and coding the old style keys in

[PierreTheron]

Hi

To remove 93c66 from mems 3.
Bang up the heat to 450 degrees C.
Use no nozzle or 30 mm size.
Heat bottom aluminium plate up for a while to spread the heat.
Heat up chip.
Have patience on this chip.
It takes a while for soldering to go shiny.
On first removal you need to burn away the glue underneath the chip as well.
Remember keep airflow low( 40 to 50 %)

[ninja123]

New 93lc66a chips just arrived
Put one in test clip and cant write to it.
Keep Saying error writing at address 00
Tried free run file for a mems3 and wrote back to the original 93c66 ok.
Any ideas guys???
regards the ninja

[v8 dave]

Bad chips? Get them from China by any chance? I got 10, waited three weeks and 7 of them were sh*te :(

[Meat-Head]

New 93lc66a chips just arrived
Put one in test clip and cant write to it.
Keep Saying error writing at address 00
Tried free run file for a mems3 and wrote back to the original 93c66 ok.
Any ideas guys???



Funny that feeling of deja vous

IF ANY BODY LAUGHS AT THIS YOUR GOING TO GET A PUNCH IN THE PROFILE

Had same problem, ended up pinning some bloke up his inbox - he said

"It is because your chips are 16 bit - this is why you can't write as 8 - bit"


IF ANY BODY LAUGHS AT THIS YOUR GOING TO GET A PUNCH IN THE PROFILE

[ninja123]

i got them from rs supplies, but i suppose they were made in china, what isn't?
the ninja

[Meat-Head]

i got them from rs supplies, but i suppose they were made in china, what isn't?
the ninja

1) Post part number so we can 'confirm' if you have by 'mistake' got '16-bit' ones (THANKS)

2) Hope Tracy Barlow is NOT made in China - or of China

3) What programmer you using - ie where from?

4) Ninja hrrm - what about using your numb-chucks on supplier of eeproms and programmer

Meaty.

[ninja123]

stock number on anti static bag is 687-8840
4k,512 x 8 serial eeprom, ind
93LC66A-I/SN
made in thailand
0110979676

I have more than the chuckers waiting!
ninja

[ninja123]

oh, and my programmer is s#!t
at the mo, im using keeprog usb, it seems to read the chips ok (sometimes) but i have only successfully wrote back to one (93lc66a) once.
BUT, it WILL write the scu file to an eeprom from mems 3 93c66 (just to test) but this chip wouldnt work when put in scu.
Was even a bit hit & miss at reading the eeproms from scu.
Just ordered another s#!t programmer to try, dont want to spend a fortune on a programmer just for these!
ninja

[Meat-Head]

s
I have more than the chuckers waiting!
ninja

Cool, like what, Cement boots?


o im using keeprog usb, it seems to read the chips ok (sometimes) but i have only successfully wrote back to one (93lc66a) once.
BUT, it WILL write the scu file to an eeprom from mems 3 93c66 (just to test) but this chip wouldnt work when put in scu.



Oh, was going to download one of them.

OFF TOPIC:-

Find a nearby car park, astra 4, WRENCH the n/s shit sheild off, undo 2 x bolts holding o/e siren on, flash black to red if your skanking or toggle ignition.

Hack saw open, skank 93C46 SAVE THE FILE then go play with your self.

Hang on, got one in kitchen

<flicks chip pan on>

93C46 3
<LOGO> 9218F

Can't make out the logo on the chip STI?

Just a thought, 2 seconds in the bin of vaxhall dealer you will find 100's

properbly to small to use, but try it

OFF TOPIC:

Had problems updating a USB powered potato peeler, once unplugged the other usb stuff (memory stick) it worked fine.

unplug all other stuff and no hubs

[ninja123]

just tried your first of topic method, just writing this on my phone while en-route to the cells!
when i get out ill try off topic option 2!
no hubs or owt else in use.
Is there a reliable programmer for this series of eeprom available (pref not from china)?
ninja
ps, should be able to reply shortly, just overcome the staff of the riot van, now on way home!

[Meat-Head]

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Is there a reliable programmer for this series of eeprom available (pref not from china)?
ninja
ps, should be able to reply shortly, just overcome the staff of the riot van, now on way home!

1) Whip the eithernet card out of the pigs computer 93C46 on that.

2) go back to smega-shop.com and down load the serial version programmer.

MAKE SURE YOU ARE 100% CORRECT WITH THE CHIP WHEN YOU DO ANYTHING WITH IT AS ONE MISTAKE IT BLOWS THEM SERIAL PROGRAMMERS

Confiremed rumor and word on street

[ninja123]

smega-shop.com????????????????????????????????????????

[v8 dave]

Actually, didn't these come in reversed pin format? Not been given one of those have you?

[ninja123]

i have tried connecting all ways, no joy.
I have been in touch with seller of my programmer, and seems to think there may be a problem with this particular eeprom, something to do with software write protect???
ninja

[Meat-Head]

smega-shop.com????????????????????????????????????????

KMtronic: 24Cxx, 93Cxx and 25xxx Serial E-eprom programmer (http://www.sigma-shop.com/product/37/24cxx-93cxx-and-25xxx-serial-e-eprom-programmer.html)


Actually, didn't these come in reversed pin format? Not been given one of those have you?

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f176/93c46-rotated-not-94804/


something to do with software write protect???

AAH cool. Could you query the the fact you have got only '16 Bit' chips?

Could other members

1) Add password to a 93CXX then try writing see what happens

2) Try blanking said above mentioned eeprom - repeat experiment

3) deliberatly try wrong password


Meaty

[ninja123]

ok, heres todays events.
Went to local thieving scrapyard, got scu (?50) with no fob.
Using s#!t programmer, read 93lc66 ok.
Using same s#!t programmer, tried to write modified data to 93lc66, still same result.
jumped on s#!t programmer, still same result.
ninja:hmmmm2:

[Meat-Head]

ok, heres todays events.
Went to local thieving scrapyard, got scu (?50) with no fob.
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jumped on s#!t programmer, still same result.
ninja:hmmmm2:

End of day it is a $300+vat unit. Should have asked how much warranty, and could it have gateway warranty if cheaper.

if needed, send your mate in to buy another $50 with warranty and swap guts

[ninja123]

MH, the prob aint wiv the scu's(which are getting more rare by the day) just my s#1t programmer.
new one on way and ive ordered x prog m with a suitable adapter so HOPEFULLY i will solve this s#1t soon.
ninja

[Meat-Head]

and ive ordered x prog m with a suitable adapter so HOPEFULLY i will solve this s#1t soon.
ninja

Feel free to spill the beans on what where and how much

[ninja123]

ill spill all when i get it and test it (and if it works), dont want to get people buying anymore ting tong s#!t do we!!!!
ninja

[ninja123]

Right guys, finally got a new programmer, and the results are as follows
I just changed the remote bar code in dump for a new one, NOT WORKED.
Tried adding remote in position 3, NOT WORKED
Added remote in position 3, then changed the FF's to zero's just around the barcode as in pierres mod using the software, and hey presto, it worked!!
Tried it with a different barcode, and still worked.
At last, i got this nail sorted and paid for, and hope never to see it again!!
Thanks to all who contributed help on this thread, esp pierre, top man!:champions:
Regard the ninja

[Meat-Head]

COOL

1) What programmer did you doownload>
2) How much?
3) Same chip as mentioned earlier?
4) Writed as 8 bit?
5) Could you explain again for thick folks - using barcode numbers - real or fake


Thanks

Meat

[ninja123]

I got microwire serial eeproms from rs (93lc66a 8 bit)

Used cheap programmer from bulgaria, you know, the ones ofa flea bay.
Use pony prog software
write as 8 bit only

I have a diesel MG ZR in at the moment.
So, just for test purposes, i read dump and modified with another fob, wrote dump to new chip (old chip will do if you have one), and soldered to a scu from a petrol car.
Plugged in and all worked and no need to pair with engine ecu, so the pairing code must also be stored somewhere in the dump.
If ya need any more info (or a scu unit, of which i now have a collection!!) just let me know!
regards the ninja:champions:

[PierreTheron]

I got microwire serial eeproms from rs (93lc66a 8 bit)

Used cheap programmer from bulgaria, you know, the ones ofa flea bay.
Use pony prog software
write as 8 bit only

I have a diesel MG ZR in at the moment.
So, just for test purposes, i read dump and modified with another fob, wrote dump to new chip (old chip will do if you have one), and soldered to a scu from a petrol car.
Plugged in and all worked and no need to pair with engine ecu, so the pairing code must also be stored somewhere in the dump.
If ya need any more info (or a scu unit, of which i now have a collection!!) just let me know!
regards the ninja:champions:

You are not the only one building a collection here.

So you guys got this SCU sorted now??

It seems persistence is the answer to any job....

Great work there !!!!!!!!!!!!


Regards and Compliments for the Season..

Still got to keep a certain guy with rover 75 off my back because vin codes does not match and automatic gearbox not changing correctly.

His using car as it is at the moment?
How do you get the gearbox ecu into a relearning mode without T4 ?

Thanks for all the help...:wavey::hmmmm2::hmmmm2::hmmmm2:

P.S. Ninja123 , You did all the work by putting effort and time into studying the dumps!!

[neriuks007]

please ninja123 check

[ninja123]

write this file to original pektron

[PierreTheron]

ok barcode gets added to scu .. with bit of brain exe it can be made into a program .. so very simple exept that some feature off the barcodes needs to be added with one number called ff
not all ithink lower numbers not a problem exept higher numbers

[Meat-Head]

Use stalk function for “v8 dave” he was good at them

[dougie1]

Just for curiosity:

Aliexpress offers compatible keyfobs for a small amount: https://de.aliexpress.com/item/4000044842536.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.0.0.65ea 6368UEvYmr&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

Is there experience if those are supplied with necessary barcode?

BR
Ralf