Rover 416 immobilisers

[jsmxbox]

Hi new to this forum and you lot look like you know what your talking about so i signed up to ask this
i have a Rover SLi 1.6 with the honda engine my key fob is broken and i cannot start the car as the immobilizers is stuck on if anybody knows away i can disable the immobilizer and just use the key to open the door and start the car!

thanks a lot Jamie!

[vanos batam]

Hi new to this forum and you lot look like you know what your talking about so i signed up to ask this
i have a Rover SLi 1.6 with the honda engine my key fob is broken and i cannot start the car as the immobilizers is stuck on if anybody knows away i can disable the immobilizer and just use the key to open the door and start the car!

thanks a lot Jamie!
post your ecu number detail of the car

[jsmxbox]

sorry ment to say Rover 416 1.6 SLi (honda engine)

the ECU is a 37820-PP4-R00

Not sure where the Eeprom is located or how to read i have a Eeprom reader i used to use on the old Xbox 1 consoles will that work??

www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu1.jpg (http://www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu1.jpg)
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu2.jpg (http://www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu2.jpg)
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu1.jpg
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu2.jpg

[vanos batam]

hi..
better you post any fhoto of ecu car..
or see http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/icos-im-o-cleaner-1-0-updateable-database-161681/

[jsmxbox]

few more photos

www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu3.jpg
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu4.jpg
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu5.jpg

[kaci]

Are you sure your car has an immobilizer installed! I think you only have alarm that is easily circumvented! Review schemes and find out how.

[vanos batam]

few more photos

www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu3.jpg
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu4.jpg
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu5.jpg
this ecu is easy..
just remove one eprom inside ecu.
pls open your ecu.and post the fhoto

[jsmxbox]

I have already posted pics of inside ECU


www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu1.jpg (http://www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu1.jpg)
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu2.jpg (http://www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu2.jpg)

[vanos batam]

I have already posted pics of inside ECU


www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu1.jpg (http://www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu1.jpg)
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu2.jpg (http://www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/ecu2.jpg)

hi..the fhoto is dark or blurred.

[jsmxbox]

sorry try theses

2010-10-24161251.jpg picture by xtinkerbellx89x - Photobucket (http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm289/xtinkerbellx89x/?action=view&current=2010-10-24161251.jpg)


2010-10-24161305.jpg picture by xtinkerbellx89x - Photobucket (http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm289/xtinkerbellx89x/?action=view&current=2010-10-24161305.jpg)

2010-10-24163130.jpg picture by xtinkerbellx89x - Photobucket (http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm289/xtinkerbellx89x/?action=view&current=2010-10-24163130.jpg)

[vanos batam]

unfortunately the fhoto are same. i cant see the any number ecu inside..
first you can try remove received remote modul.then start the car 7-10 sc

[jsmxbox]

Please somebody help me i need to get this car running to get to work tomorrow thanks!

[jsmxbox]

if you mean remove the small black box and try start i have done this still nothing what numbers are you looking for on the ECU?

[d.zio]

this ecu has no immobiliser......i know it very well.....i have done many conversions with that engine (d16a8) to honda cars.....no immo to ecu....only alarm system which is very easy to short it......if you find the alarm control module short the black with the black-white wire........or put a new wire from your starter until the keylock........good luck

[jsmxbox]

im sure it does have the immobilizer as the car can be opened with the key but would sit there for 30mins pressing fob button before i could start the car! now the fob is dead i cannot do this so cannot start more pics of inside the ECU

www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/1.JPG
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/2.JPG
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/3.JPG
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/4.JPG
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/5.JPG
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/6.JPG


and one of inside the alarm reciver!
www.jsmxbox.co.uk/ecu/7.JPG

[jsmxbox]

can anybody help pleaseee

[kaci]

Your car is most likely with an automatic transmission! Only in such a car I've seen a combination of PGM-FI with Lucas 5AS alarm! Best for you will find EKA code or someone to read it from your car with the T300, MVP ....

[d.zio]

i told you one thing.....................this car no immo to ecu....trust me

[jsmxbox]

Your car is most likely with an automatic transmission! Only in such a car I've seen a combination of PGM-FI with Lucas 5AS alarm! Best for you will find EKA code or someone to read it from your car with the T300, MVP ....
its a manual!



i told you one thing.....................this car no immo to ecu....trust me

so the alarm stops the car from starting? and if i join the black wire with the black and white wire then turn the key it will start???

[d.zio]

now you dont have starter..............sure???????????????

[v8 dave]

its a manual!

so the alarm stops the car from starting? and if i join the black wire with the black and white wire then turn the key it will start???

Correct!

The ECU is an OBD0 Honda item (The PP4 being a manual Rover fitment, PP5 is Auto Rover). You only have 5AS as this ECU is not immobilised.

Link the two wires from 5AS and you will have starter.

[jsmxbox]

now you dont have starter..............sure???????????????


What? im asking if i join the black and black/white wire from alarm receiver box will the car start?

[d.zio]

if you sit here and dont try you will not see the results........try and post.............................the only solution

[jsmxbox]

The car is stuck 20mins drive away so will try later and let you know!

[muratasutay]

teşekk?r ederim

[d.zio]

basın teşekk?r butonuna

[jsmxbox]

Anybody got anymore info for me tried the black and white wires nothing happends

Cheers

[v8 dave]

Is it cranking?

Have you bridged these two cables or have you joined something else?
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[jsmxbox]

Do i join them with the black box connected? Or removed when i tried i didn't get any crackling or sparks

i'll give it another go 2morro gonna try tow it back home as a pain being a drive away

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Originally Posted by teerak2uk
only got SBB so looks like it will be the latter of the options but cheers guys much appreciated
When you do, pull the 5as from behind the ash tray and bridge these two wires so it'll crank.

Borrowed this from another post hope it helps

Regards
Chris

[jsmxbox]

do i bridge with or without the 5AS box connected do i just short or do i leave it bridged?

[Meat-Head]

Just to prove a point

a) PUSH OFF (unless auto)
b) Short starter with screwdriver

[v8 dave]

do i bridge with or without the 5AS box connected do i just short or do i leave it bridged?

With the 5AS, and leave it bridged.

[ninja123]

what year is your car?
I have also encountered ONLY 1 problematic version of this manual car with honda/rover set up where it WAS IMMOBILISED!!!!!!!!!
Had to program new fob in on the bench to solve.
There are a few simple causes that may be present.
I specialise in mg rover, if you need any more help pm me.