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dopravami
9th February, 2011, 05:07 PM
Hello everybody, i have problem with my Peugeot Boxer 2.2hdi. Engine stopped while driving. There are no faults in ECU - check with PPO.
I have replaced 6 month ago old engine (560.000km)with another one (100.000km). Old engine was working, but took too much oil. I replaced high pressure pump with pressure regulator with another from old engine, then replaced all injectors, all sensors from old engine - RPM sensor, The camshaft position sensor, coolant temperature sensor ...nothing helps! I replaced a fuel pump in tank too..
tried to monitor some values with Peugeot Planet Office while starting: Pressure in rail 340-380, voltage on injectors 75-79volts, immo not blocked - seems, like working...
Mondey have change oil with all filters, after 50 km engine stopped.
toothed belt more times checked - should be ok!
It seems somtimes, it will run, but after 1-2 seconds it stops?
Any ideas, please?
tomtom0785
9th February, 2011, 05:26 PM
Did you checked the leak oil oif the injectors??
And please check the signal of crank while starting,...
unar
9th February, 2011, 06:11 PM
Check synchronization between crank camshaft in parameters,
I think that can be problem with timing belt, if have no synchronization ecu not open injectors.
check also rail pressure, if pressure isnt like ecu want so it can be rail presure regulator, rail pressure sensor or fuel dont come to pump.
Regards
unar
dopravami
9th February, 2011, 06:18 PM
Guys, thansk for tips...
about rail pressure - ECU want 340, railsensor by starting shows between 335-345, but i didn?t change the rail pressure sensor, mybe it?s defekt... I?ll try it tomorrow... I let You know.
mexanico1971
9th February, 2011, 06:53 PM
maybe is bearing from the pump !
diagnoza_auto2000
9th February, 2011, 07:26 PM
What pressure you have at 2500 rpm?
Try to run a road test without fuel pressure sensor.
dopravami
9th February, 2011, 08:13 PM
What pressure you have at 2500 rpm?
Try to run a road test without fuel pressure sensor.
Can not say, engine won?t start....
diagnoza_auto2000
9th February, 2011, 08:18 PM
When you try to start you have rpm on PPO?
dopravami
9th February, 2011, 08:25 PM
When you try to start you have rpm on PPO?
Yes, about 200 I think... I don?t remember exactly how much, but I?m sure, it?s diferent from 0. As I wrote, I tried another RPM sensor too...
bsv2001
9th February, 2011, 09:08 PM
Try to disconnect MAP sensor and start
bsv2001
9th February, 2011, 09:10 PM
if start -you need Pplanet to write basic A\F parameters during start and send me
dopravami
9th February, 2011, 09:37 PM
Try to disconnect MAP sensor and start
I?m not sure, there is any separat MAP sensor; i thought, there?s only airflow... But I checked it on public.servicebox.peugeot.com, there is really any senzor with nr. 1563J4.. I will check it tomorrow one more time.
I saw one free connector with 3 pins nearby RPM and speed senzor, I there? s nothing to plug it.
Albanais
9th February, 2011, 09:40 PM
Check on the foot well on the passengers side you have an inertia switch, rearm it and the car should start.
Regards from Albania
dopravami
9th February, 2011, 09:48 PM
Check on the foot well on the passengers side you have an inertia switch, rearm it and the car should start.
Regards from Albania
Thanks for opinion, I tried, didn?t help... in my experiences when it?s off, fuell pump in tank don?t work... My is working.
Albanais
9th February, 2011, 09:57 PM
Yes but not for fiat or boxer or jumper, as i have had this before the car starts and shuts down quickly. Whatever, if you find no solution to your problem make a compression test, if you have to much air leak then i'm sure that you need to replace the two camshafts, the pulleys mounted on the camshafts slip on shaft and and loose internal synchronization. By experience I am on my fourth engine that i have repaired this kind of thing. You have to check mate, but check at last when you have no more ideas.
dopravami
10th February, 2011, 03:49 PM
so, I changed rail pressure sensor, nothing happened.. I check a pressure in rail by starting, seems to be OK.
It seems, injektors has no signal to open. But the car one time started, went for max. 2500rpm, then died. After this there was a fault in ecu - something like engine speed sensor coherence...
Seems, Unar was right - "Check synchronization between crank camshaft in parameters,
I think that can be problem with timing belt, if have no synchronization ecu not open injectors."
How can I check it?
Albanais
10th February, 2011, 04:15 PM
You go in injection parameters, you go to data reading and when is marked synchronization, you crank the engine and you have to have ;SYNCHRONIZATION__ YES
If you read no then for sure you have to redo the timing belt.
dopravami
10th February, 2011, 04:22 PM
You go in injection parameters, you go to data reading and when is marked synchronization, you crank the engine and you have to have ;SYNCHRONIZATION__ YES
If you read no then for sure you have to redo the timing belt.
all thruogh peugeot planet office?
seems, I have to better surfe it :-)
Albanais
10th February, 2011, 04:25 PM
Yes if you have it, it is the best tool by the way
dopravami
10th February, 2011, 09:22 PM
Have a latest version of PPO from scarymistake (THX), but synchronization can not find.... Mayby I have a bad tool (china 9780Z5)
let?s find something on google :-(
dannyuk89
11th February, 2011, 12:23 AM
check injectors for leak back
EssexTech
11th February, 2011, 01:23 AM
Remove the left hand headlamp and check the wiring harness from the fuse box back to the ecu. It corrodes and breaks. Also the egr's are poo. . Supply me the lst 8 digits of your chassis number and I will give you a good idea of where to look
dopravami
11th February, 2011, 07:39 AM
Remove the left hand headlamp and check the wiring harness from the fuse box back to the ecu. It corrodes and breaks. Also the egr's are poo. . Supply me the lst 8 digits of your chassis number and I will give you a good idea of where to look
VF3ZBRMNC17827178
wiring to ground tested...
dopravami
16th February, 2011, 08:03 AM
SOLVED!
problem was on conector of camshaft sensor - there was no contact betwen conector and sensor!!!
I measuared separatly sensor and separatly wirnig - from camshaft conector to ecu conector - it was OK.... Then I pluged a conector to camshaft sensor, and measuared by ECU conector and found, there was no contact! I replaced it and engine started!!!
many thank to all of Your for Your help and tips!!!
Albanais
16th February, 2011, 09:08 AM
Good news mate
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