mercedes spinter start error

[ezenigbo]

i have one mercedes spinter 1998 diesel, display start error at the speed clock and the car refused to crank,what can i do

[joubliss]

Upload the WSP Temic HC08 and Upload the Ecu to Virgin it after that u have to adapt the Ecu with Star Diagnosis.

ps: Ecu with 5 plugs EEprom 5p08

[ezenigbo]

is immo off possible ? or can i use lunch to proram the ecu?

[metsat]

i have one mercedes spinter 1998 diesel, display start error at the speed clock and the car refused to crank,what can i do

I think ecu is 5 sockets and inside eeprom 5p08. you can use that program. especially should try sprinter v1.
b.r.

[Zaveruha]

I think ecu is 5 sockets and inside eeprom 5p08. you can use that program. especially should try sprinter v1.
b.r.

5p08 its for CDI engine. 1998 thats TDI and it has 2404 eeprom. No immoff possible. Should renew ECU end coding with Star.

[ezenigbo]

the ecu has 5p08 eeprom

[Zaveruha]

the ecu has 5p08 eeprom

Ok, post your dump

[ngakson2002]

Hello,
For immo off purpose read both ECU 95po8 and immobox file Motorola 68HC05X16 and post dump here

Regards

[cardoctor]

Made a new PCF.
Read immobox. Use TM pro

[ezenigbo]

i have ups china cloned,i dont know the leggs to lift before i can read the immo box,but if immo off is possible here is the dump from 5p08 in the engine ecu,which wire should i cut and how can i crank the kick starter?

[Zaveruha]

This is good dump, pass in PM

[jaca4591]

Can I have also pass for this file. I have the same problem.
Thanks for your help.

[Zaveruha]

Can I have also pass for this file. I have the same problem.
Thanks for your help.

ECU has diferent coding, post your dump.

[jaca4591]

File attached.
Thanks.

[Zaveruha]

Your dump. Pass in PM

[ezenigbo]

should i remove the immoblizer after programming the immo off to the engine ecu?

[Zaveruha]

No, immo box is nessesary.

[ezenigbo]

this car is very far away[outside my country],do you think this car will start without programming any thing in the immo box?

[Zaveruha]

this car is very far away[outside my country],do you think this car will start without programming any thing in the immo box?

Yes, car will start. But it need working immobox.

[SERFERAKIAS]

"Originally Posted by metsat
I think ecu is 5 sockets and inside eeprom 5p08. you can use that program. especially should try sprinter v1."


I think that it is a useful program but i dont know how to use it.
Can somebody help me please?

[Arturas]

Can someone eat a couple of working Mears Sprinter 1998 ?
PROBLEM "START ERROR"
2,9 90KW
Immo Temic 020 545 58 32
Motor Bosch A 027 545 50 32
In immo Motia 0d62j
in the engine 24s04

[Swd71]

cler dump ECU <95P08>, Do replacement unit <Star diagnostik>

[ecufix]

ECU has diferent coding, post your dump.
please Zaveruha do attached dump for me
thanks and regards

[Zaveruha]

please Zaveruha do attached dump for me
thanks and regards

M8, post dump from 5p08.

[ecufix]

thanks
find attached dump from 5p08
regards

[Zaveruha]

thanks
find attached dump from 5p08
regards

Your dump here

[dizil]

Zaveruha, Help me, please :

[ibm]

I'm not Zaveruha, but i ready to help...

[dizil]

Thank you very much!
It is version Immo OFF?
After replacement of 2 byte EEPROM 5P08C3 CDI can't be synchronized with IMMO.In the top part many lines FF. Star Diagnosis can't block ECU for cause of defect EWS and gives me 250 starts. If it is possible, help with the maximum quantity of starts (inclusions).

[dizil]

It has turned out, the machine has left.
At the client remains FF FF starts.

[gadget78]

just wanted a second opinion and to rule out what i did is ok so i can move on to something else etc ...

dash does have start error, so i read out the 5P08C3 from ECU, and used the merc start error program 1.3 to fix error, but it hasnt made any diference ...
have attached the original dump from the 5P08C3, and the one i modified with the program which also does'nt seem to work ?...

any halp, or confirmation or suggestion would be great :)

[bmw320d]

try to read HC08 into immo ecu temic, I have solved reading ecu and immo, now it's all ok

[gadget78]

reading some of the older posts, some have fixed by just ECU ? just wanted to see if the ECU one was ok first before tackling emmo box

what chip is in the emmo box ? just wondering if i have the equip to do it !

cheers for helping :) ..

[amaflo]

please immo off
ecu 5p08

[mercis]

sprinter ecu 5p08

[GDB]

Members,

I have a 2004 sprinter van with start error. I diagnosed the van with star and keys + WSP are fine, problem is the ECU. I have tried to remarry the ECU again to the car after making the 5p08c3 eprom virgin again with different software, and programming with memprog 2. I always get the same problem in Das when I try to personalize the ECU ( marry it with the WSP ) Das keeps trying to personalize ( sending request, multiplexer clicks and glowlight and EDC light flash ) but it does not work and stops automaticly after 20 tries. I tried erasing the 5p08c3 completly ( programming FF FF ),tried virgining with different software, tried sprinter start error fix 1.3 software, tried a second ECU, tried Star diagnosis on a different laptop, tried another ( original ) multiplexer... all with the same result. Only when I completly erase the eprom the van starts but immediatly shuts down. Anybody came across the same personalizing issues with Das ? Or anybody has an idea what I'm doing wrong here ? Any help would be greatly appreciated

[mercis]

hard job m8
use immo emulator for quick solution

[GDB]

Guys,

I'm still trying to make this Start error to go away but no luck so far... I'm running out of options here. So I am able to read and write both ECU 5P08C3 and WSP HC08. I tried different softwares ( Start error 1.3, Immo tool, Immo Killer, Mercedes ECU Editor,...) buth nothing works. I have fixed my HC08 dump with start error 1.3 and then programmed with the provided 5p08c3 dump but still Start Error. I used Memprog 2 ( device setting 95p08 ) for the ECU and Xprog-M OJ66D for the WSP. Maybe I'm doing something wrong with the programming, I programmed both in Circuit. I have even bought new 5P08C3 eeproms and soldered into the ECU but no luck. I am not able to marry the ECU to the WSP, Das tries and after 20 times says it is not possible to do so. I even tried different laptops with the DAS software and different Multiplexers ( also original ) and different cables. I'll post my two original dumps here, can somebody more expirienced then me have a look at the dumps or maybe even fix them so I just need to program the files back in ECU and WSP so the car starts again without having to program using DAS ? If there is a problem with my dumps, or they are not as expected ( because of selecting wrong device for read and write, in Memprog there is no 5P08C3 device to choose ) please let me know.

All help would be very welcome as I don't know what else I could try. I'd rather not go with the emulator cause I feel I have all the tools needed to fix this, I guess I just lack the knowledge.

Thanks in advance

[keygargoil]

Guys,

I'm still trying to make this Start error to go away but no luck so far... I'm running out of options here. So I am able to read and write both ECU 5P08C3 and WSP HC08. I tried different softwares ( Start error 1.3, Immo tool, Immo Killer, Mercedes ECU Editor,...) buth nothing works. I have fixed my HC08 dump with start error 1.3 and then programmed with the provided 5p08c3 dump but still Start Error. I used Memprog 2 ( device setting 95p08 ) for the ECU and Xprog-M OJ66D for the WSP. Maybe I'm doing something wrong with the programming, I programmed both in Circuit. I have even bought new 5P08C3 eeproms and soldered into the ECU but no luck. I am not able to marry the ECU to the WSP, Das tries and after 20 times says it is not possible to do so. I even tried different laptops with the DAS software and different Multiplexers ( also original ) and different cables. I'll post my two original dumps here, can somebody more expirienced then me have a look at the dumps or maybe even fix them so I just need to program the files back in ECU and WSP so the car starts again without having to program using DAS ? If there is a problem with my dumps, or they are not as expected ( because of selecting wrong device for read and write, in Memprog there is no 5P08C3 device to choose ) please let me know.

All help would be very welcome as I don't know what else I could try. I'd rather not go with the emulator cause I feel I have all the tools needed to fix this, I guess I just lack the knowledge.

Thanks in advance


this is the hc08 file with start error done, also 5p08 unlocked for coding if needed

[GDB]

Guys,


Maybe I'm doing something wrong with the programming of the 5P08C3. Is there anyone here that has succesfully programmed such an eeprom with an Elnec programmer ( Beeprog, Memprog..) I'm using a Memprog 2 that supports read and write of 12.000 plus devices. However a 5P08C3 is not in their list. After some googling I found out 5P08C3 is same as ST95P08 or 95080 or 25080. So maybe someone who succeeded in the past tell me which device I should use and what are the correct settings ( SPI write ? Start at ? End at ?....)


Thanks for the Help

[charlie-h]

Mate 9 times out of 10 its the wsp that goes down.
If you have the ability to read the MC68HC8AZ32A then you should solve this no problem.
If you have repaired wsp the dump with immokiller or other repair programms and repaired the cdi 95p08 then it should start as long as the transponder matches the wsp.
Dont bother trying to personalise with star because there is no need.
Maybee the wsp is faulty!!
I have used emulators and soldered on to the cdi board.
( 4 wires, two can and poss and neg )
Just alter a few bytes at 1DO of the 95p08 and the wsp and key are no longer needed

[GDB]

Mate 9 times out of 10 its the wsp that goes down.
If you have the ability to read the MC68HC8AZ32A then you should solve this no problem.
If you have repaired wsp the dump with immokiller or other repair programms and repaired the cdi 95p08 then it should start as long as the transponder matches the wsp.
Dont bother trying to personalise with star because there is no need.
Maybee the wsp is faulty!!
I have used emulators and soldered on to the cdi board.
( 4 wires, two can and poss and neg )
Just alter a few bytes at 1DO of the 95p08 and the wsp and key are no longer needed

Thanks Charlie,

but I already repaired the WSP dump and reprogrammed back to the WSP but still no luck. Start error just won't go away. I'd rather not personalise with Star but the problem is that this also does not work. It keeps trying and stops after 20 times. Therefore I'm beginning to think that maybe the dump from the 95P08 is coruppted. Fixing the start error on the dump is maybe leaving another damaged part of the dump unchanged. This could be a reasonable explenaition of why the start error is won't go away and Star is not able to personalise the ECU. In my opinion that is. A diagnosis with Star always says the WSP and key are fine, just the start release between WSP and ECU is not granted.

[GDB]

hard job m8
use immo emulator for quick solution

Mercis,

you know where I can get original emulator ? I prefer no China crap on this.

Thanks,

GDB

[MarkPRP]

GDB.

Where abouts are you from?

Mark

[mercis]

Mercis,

you know where I can get original emulator ? I prefer no China crap on this.

Thanks,

GDBMERCEDES CR1 and CR2 emulator IMMO - Group1 - Product Catalog - Us?ugi Elektroniczne Iwona Piotrowska - DIYTrade.com Free Website (http://elektronika.diytrade.com/sdp/1281299/4/pd-5648716/7534532-0/MERCEDES_CR1_and_CR2_emulator_IMMO.html)

[GDB]

MERCEDES CR1 and CR2 emulator IMMO - Group1 - Product Catalog - Us?ugi Elektroniczne Iwona Piotrowska - DIYTrade.com Free Website (http://elektronika.diytrade.com/sdp/1281299/4/pd-5648716/7534532-0/MERCEDES_CR1_and_CR2_emulator_IMMO.html)

Thanks Mercis,I'll order one from their vendor in Germany

[GDB]

GDB.

Where abouts are you from?

Mark

The great country of.... Belgium

[charlie-h]

GDB , i ordered straight from Poland. No problems at all. Came within 3-4 days to the UK. Good service.

[megacenter]

help 08az32 l52h 35p08 start erroe

[megacenter]

pleae start error sprinter 08az32 immo 35p08 ecu help

[mercis]

start error sprinter 08az32 immo 35p08 ecu

[makura]

HI guys

Can i get immo off for this sprinter,dont have DAS to do the re-sych if i do ecu reset.immo of i s my solution here,help pleaase.

[lupu_sandu]

No immo off solution for Sprinter m8.
Only emulator.
You have Start Error?

[makura]

No immo off solution for Sprinter m8.
Only emulator.
You have Start Error?
I have start error but i don't have DAS to re-learn the ecu after reset.may some one can help wiyh a good dump for immo,ecu and key logic from a ecu that is already matched to the immo.

[lupu_sandu]

Don't need to have DAS, just write these files back, use old keys.

[makura]

Don't need to have DAS, just write these files back, use old keys.
thanks bro,so this will start the car one time,no need for anything else just write and play?
i will report back tomorrow,thanks again

[charlie-h]

I agree, as long as key is matched to WSP then van will start. Good luck!

[makura]

well start error keeps comming back,even after writting new files to the immo and ecu.

[kevfield]

so once you have programed both files car start once or not at all ????

You need to make sure batt fully charged, fuse box tight so it can not disconect it self if problem still there change immo box for new or replace with new chip (HC08) in it ..

thanks kev

[makura]

so once you have programed both files car start once or not at all ????

You need to make sure batt fully charged, fuse box tight so it can not disconect it self if problem still there change immo box for new or replace with new chip (HC08) in it ..

thanks kev
I think EDC is faulty,no edc light on desh.checked supplies and ground wires all seem to be fine but still no edc light,tried connecting with diagnostic tool"no com with ecu"is what i get.

[charlie-h]

Mate you should have said all this first.
You need this ecu connected or the powers fall off. So you can only test the back of the connectors for power with a test lamp.
I have had the connectors that have spread and not made contact with the ecu pins. People start pushing test probes down the connectos and spread the contact.
Try tensioning the contacts and scan again.

[squirrelbandy]

make sure fuse under drivers seat which is held in behind cream masking tape is there or not blown , ive had a couple where this fuse had rattled out due to tape goone brittle and broke , make sure you check it . if you cannot see it its because tape always holding it in place .

[makura]

Mate you should have said all this first.
You need this ecu connected or the powers fall off. So you can only test the back of the connectors for power with a test lamp.
I have had the connectors that have spread and noe contact with the ecu pins. People start pushing test probes down the connectos and spread the contact.
Try tensioning the contacts and scan again.
Sorry guys,some one called me and said the van had a start error so i told them to remove the immo and ecu,they brought it to my work shop,got help here with my dumps,reprogrammed everything,gave the units back to this mechanic and he called to say it's not working so i went there,and borrowed a lap top with DAS only to find out that the EDC light is not even on when you turn the key on,ran DAS only for it to say no comm with edc.

[charlie-h]

Fuse under the seat is for the wsp not the cdi ecu. CDI is cotrolled by main fuse box via relay that is triggered by the CDI. This is why it has to be plugged in to check power supplies.
I have made a power plug for sprinter that by-passes the vehicle electrics and connects straight to the battey for testing. With my test loom vehicle starts, plug back in vehicle loom, non start !
I have done three vehicles now that have suffered with bad connections on the ecu pins.
Have you checked the tension of these connectors?
Mate this is just time and doesnt cost a penny.
CDI ecu is ?1000 over here so make sure all is ok before taking the plunge!!

[makura]

Can you share the the wiring schematic you made for connecting the CDI direct to the BAT

[charlie-h]

Sorry for the delay

Block 1 (main feed and earth) 1,7, and 8 are positives
4,5 and 6 are negatives.

Block 2
Pin 13 is ignition feed

Hope this helps

[makura]

Sorry for the delay

Block 1 (main feed and earth) 1,7, and 8 are positives
4,5 and 6 are negatives.

Block 2
Pin 13 is ignition feed

Hope this helps
Thanks that rely helps.

[laurepal]

good program for mercedes

[charlie-h]

good program for mercedes


What do you mean ??

[eduardo74]

anyone have this sprinter start error fix 1.3 software ?

[makura]

search,its here under one of the SPRINTER threads

[arvedo]

HELLO I WANT TO HELP good morning ERROR AND I HAVE NO FAULT, CAN IMMO OFF. SOMEONE CAN HELP ME SOLVE THIS THANK YOU
: GiveUp:: GiveUp:: GiveUp:: GiveUp:

[arvedo]

solution ok

[gogoli]

hi all i have a sprinter start error i reper ecu+immo with sprinter 1.7
car start but not work ok the moto in diagnostic have dtc air mass flow sensor ATT can you help me

thanks

[mercis]

immo repaired file

[ggabo71]

Hi MERCIS. Where are you from? I have one problem with SPRINTER immo box. Tomorrow read the immobox and ECU, and I send here the dump.

Greetings GGABO71 from hungary