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Stevan381
18th May, 2011, 12:14 PM
Does anyone know how to pick lock bmw x5 2005?
I never pick lock bmw ded lock? If anyone has some way other than drill locks please answer me. car stalls about six months in a parking lot and lost power.

thank in advance
Steve

gojko
18th May, 2011, 02:38 PM
Remove cover and drill screw on the driver's door

ray-ray
18th May, 2011, 04:07 PM
need to get power to the car ,under the driver fender should be battery post.everything runs off the the power
need to proved 12volts.

viorelcarl
19th May, 2011, 05:08 AM
Does anyone know how to pick lock bmw x5 2005?
I never pick lock bmw ded lock? If anyone has some way other than drill locks please answer me. car stalls about six months in a parking lot and lost power.

thank in advance
Steve
Method 1 Use lishi pick tool HU58
Method 2 Only if you have mechanical code go to locksmith workshop or to try to cut manualy help by instacode software.

workdamnyou
19th May, 2011, 07:17 AM
Remove rear number plate.

Locate linkage rod through hole.

Push / pull with a pair of small forceps and boot will open.

immo_key
19th May, 2011, 10:05 AM
As workdamnyou say is best way

I use method if the remote and driver dor lock is broken then lishi can't pick
Use a flashligh to peek hole [far right ] pull the bent wire
If trained only need one,two or three minutes

Best Regard
imokey

nazz2
19th May, 2011, 10:09 PM
With regards to any 4 track bmw key way,ie hu58,due to the anti pick grooves on the wafers,it is impossible to pick these types of locks open!,on the other hand, they are very easy to pick to lock position.and decode by lishi tool.or spun over with a plug spinner to unlock position.

With regards to the flat batterie, a positive feed from a jump pack to the positive terminal of the alternator,and the negative to the chassis, works like a charm, the only draw back is,you have to go under the car,and prey that its not raining!!.

Bishop c4
20th May, 2011, 04:51 AM
Remove rear number plate.

Locate linkage rod through hole.

Push / pull with a pair of small forceps and boot will open.

Hi Stevan381,
for this method check this thread
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f154/bmw-tricks-tips-melcool-178398/

Regards

simon77
20th May, 2011, 07:38 AM
i just remove plastic cover on door lock use drill bit on screw head and drill. screw will unscrew itself remove lock open with screwdriver. tried many time 2 mins and your done.
regards

Stevan381
20th May, 2011, 10:42 AM
Thank you very much for your advice .. :) I drilled screws and resolve the problems in this way, since it is a bit (as I like to say) barbaric, I have to buy Lishi lock pick. Always a question at the end. Has anyone used Lishi and what his recommendations? Thanks

thesaint4
30th May, 2011, 05:42 PM
Hi Stevan,
I am completely new to the autolocksmith area (I am a general locksmith and safe and vault guy when I can get the jobs) but I have picked many locks and used a lot of different tools. Just got some Lishi picks and to be quite honest I do not like them. It is very easy to break the tips off the wafer lifter (pick tool). It is also easy to bend the pick tool just a little and then you have difficulty getting it into the correct position. I prefer to use the rake method for opening the laser style locks where you cut a blank key correctly, apply some tension and rake the lock. To decode the lock take it out and read the wafers - no mistakes for sure and job done...

cheers!

cjawahir
30th May, 2011, 07:49 PM
Hi Stevan,
I am completely new to the autolocksmith area (I am a general locksmith and safe and vault guy when I can get the jobs) but I have picked many locks and used a lot of different tools. Just got some Lishi picks and to be quite honest I do not like them. It is very easy to break the tips off the wafer lifter (pick tool). It is also easy to bend the pick tool just a little and then you have difficulty getting it into the correct position. I prefer to use the rake method for opening the laser style locks where you cut a blank key correctly, apply some tension and rake the lock. To decode the lock take it out and read the wafers - no mistakes for sure and job done...

cheers!

i will like to see you take apart this lock , because i have one from rangerrover 2003 model just like this one here .

only way is decode and make key with song 13 .

or can you tell me how you do it .

cj

rapidlocksmiths
30th May, 2011, 08:13 PM
Hi Stevan,
I am completely new to the autolocksmith area (I am a general locksmith and safe and vault guy when I can get the jobs) but I have picked many locks and used a lot of different tools. Just got some Lishi picks and to be quite honest I do not like them. It is very easy to break the tips off the wafer lifter (pick tool). It is also easy to bend the pick tool just a little and then you have difficulty getting it into the correct position. I prefer to use the rake method for opening the laser style locks where you cut a blank key correctly, apply some tension and rake the lock. To decode the lock take it out and read the wafers - no mistakes for sure and job done...

cheers!

Hi

The Lishi 2in1 will generally pick and decode this lock accurately , i have also used the lishi standard picks for many years and only broke pick tips when i was learning to use these , if breaking pick tips , then its normally a result of too much tension thus overbinding wafers , i must say ive never managed to bend one ? the shoulders can take alot of abuse , the blades cannot , but if correctly used only the shoulder bears the tension ?

as a safe man you will i assume be used to picking levers and anti picks with a 2in1 , the process is very similar , if backing off of the tension a fraction as you use a lishi to pick a wafer much as you would do this to jump out of an anti pick with a lever lock.

excessive tension makes the job 10 times harder and wont do the tool any good , and with the exception of a few most locks require a light to medium tension only.

At the end of the day we are all different and we use what works for us , for me its lishi 2in1 pick/decoders all the way, not let me down yet .

Ive done 2 bmw X5 recently 2004 and 2005 models and both had the HU92 2 track lock fitted .

thesaint4
30th May, 2011, 09:38 PM
Hi Rapidlocksmiths,
of course you are quite right and I considered this when posting my reply. The lishi tool works great for what it is but I still think comes really close to not being practical to use, the tip is just so thin and the holes it must go into not so well formed (at least on my tools). Personally I don't like them but as you say we are all different. I found on a lock that has not been used much you have to apply quite a bit of variable tension to get it to go.

cheers!

Snowy79
30th May, 2011, 11:52 PM
The Lishi picks are the way ahead for the majority of Vehicle Locks. I've never failed to pick any vehicle open using them and with practice most will open in under 5 minutes. I've picked plenty of BMW HU58s to the open position with no problems. It's just a case of practice.

rapidlocksmiths
31st May, 2011, 12:58 AM
Hi Rapidlocksmiths,
of course you are quite right and I considered this when posting my reply. The lishi tool works great for what it is but I still think comes really close to not being practical to use, the tip is just so thin and the holes it must go into not so well formed (at least on my tools). Personally I don't like them but as you say we are all different. I found on a lock that has not been used much you have to apply quite a bit of variable tension to get it to go.

cheers!

Hi

I know where your comming from with some of the lishi branded standard picks and there holes , but not all the lishi standard picks are lishi either , as extensively copied in china and sold worlswide cheaply , alot state lishi that are not.

Because of your background , i would suggest you try the lishi 2in1 tools , the picking process with these is simpler but more like the feel of picking a lever lock so the feel should be familiar to you .

The 2in1 tools have simplified the picking process so much that they have made the standard tools very outdated , and with minimal practice they return very quick results , picking and accurately decoding some locks in under 2 minutes and more complex locks in around 5 mins.
Id suggest starting with the HU66 VAG 2in1 and the NE72 2in1 tool , with very little practice you will be picking and decoding these 2 locks in under 2 minutes.

rakes are good , and stripping down is accurate , but can be time consuming , and some locks are not built to be simply stripped and read, take the simple NE72 , they overlift open in a second with an overlifter , but can be a proper pain to strip , the lishi 2in1 will pick and decode these accurately in 1 to 2 mins with a little practice , the BMW HU58 is not for the faint hearted when stripping, yet the 2in1 will pick and decode this in around 5 mins accurately .

as stated i know where you are comming from with some of the lishi branded standard picks , but in fairness to lishi alot of these are copies and not from them , but in either case very outdated, the 2in1 tools are another ball game and may well suit your hands better, try one and i bet you will love them and wonder how you got by without them.

the american determinators are good decoders , lishi 2in1 though has simplified this further , the next step will be an auto electronic reader to get easier than them .

also dont rule out scope reading if prefering raking , as some locks are very susceptable to a scope read.

thesaint4
31st May, 2011, 01:10 AM
Hi,
excellent info and food for though. I will give the 2in1's a go, maybe I was being to fussy! I have a nice 2mm scope and will try that out tomorrow, I am curious how that will work out now...

cheers!

rapidlocksmiths
31st May, 2011, 10:42 AM
instacode gives you info on some cars , on how to set the lock to scope , others like NE72 will scope well once picked .

cant beat a 2mm scope.

jamesnz888
1st June, 2011, 01:07 AM
Hi,
excellent info and food for though. I will give the 2in1's a go, maybe I was being to fussy! I have a nice 2mm scope and will try that out tomorrow, I am curious how that will work out now...

cheers!

Hi Thesaint4,

Can you please let us know how you go with your 2mm scope? I have many Lishi 2 in1 picks and have practiced many hours with many car locks, have picked all of them but the problem I got is: sometimes it takes more than 10 minutes to pick, pending on types of locks.

I am investigating a boroscope solution which will enable me to read to tumblers in the lock and cut the key straightaway. There are many boroscopes on the market but I only found Rigid Borescopes or Boroscopes, bore scopes with LED light source (http://www.fiberscope.net/servlet/the-Rigid-Borescopes/Categories)
These rigidscope has 2.7mm diameters which can be inserted into most of lock cylinders and read out the pins/ tumblers.


what do you think of these rigidscope? thanks