View Full Version : Abrites BMW Commander wont program CAS Remote Key?
gtmech
25th May, 2011, 09:27 AM
Ok sure it programs the transponder chip fine in the CAS Key but it wont program the Remote side of the key, anyone successfully done this? I have tried this so many times and car starts fine everytime but the remote features never work, tried 4 keys and no success everytime. If you have successfully done this then what keys are you using as its obviously the keys that are the problem as I have now tried 3 different tools with same result on all. Anyone shed some light on this? thanks guys :bebored:
obdmaster
25th May, 2011, 08:40 PM
Are you using the correct frequency remotes for your country m8??????
gtmech
26th May, 2011, 05:15 AM
Are you using the correct frequency remotes for your country m8??????
yup, here we use 315 and 433, this car is 315
obdmaster
26th May, 2011, 11:54 AM
Where you get remotes from china???????
gtmech
27th May, 2011, 12:47 PM
Where you get remotes from china???????
no from Bulgaria but they definitely dont work, anyone know somewhere else to get them?
znakedwrx
28th May, 2011, 07:02 AM
I got the same problem with bmw commander.
I have spoke to miro and he says its key fault/problem, but i can see more ppl complaining about remote not working after programing cas with avdi.
Car will start up but remote will not work. Key remote freq is matching original key + cas data!
gtmech
28th May, 2011, 11:16 AM
I got the same problem with bmw commander.
I have spoke to miro and he says its key fault/problem, but i can see more ppl complaining about remote not working after programing cas with avdi.
Car will start up but remote will not work. Key remote freq is matching original key + cas data!
thanks for telling me this buddy, now i know its not just me. Has anyone actually successfully managed to program the remote side of a CAS Key? I have tried everything and spent thousands on this so far with no success. I dont think these CAS keys are possible to do, who wants to prove me wrong?
znakedwrx
28th May, 2011, 11:30 AM
My score is 6 failed & 1 success. Bmw cas3/4 key programing is more a theory! Dont get me wrong, key starts the car, but remote worked only once out of 6 attempts!! Thats alot of money waisted, how much should i charge a customer? $5k for a spare key?
I dont want to go into how much bmw commander costs!
I earn more with ews keys then with cas!
drivesure
28th May, 2011, 06:11 PM
use the tmpro module to write the cas keys, it doesnt change the dump and works 100%
gtmech
29th May, 2011, 09:24 AM
My score is 6 failed & 1 success. Bmw cas3/4 key programing is more a theory! Dont get me wrong, key starts the car, but remote worked only once out of 6 attempts!! Thats alot of money waisted, how much should i charge a customer? $5k for a spare key?
I dont want to go into how much bmw commander costs!
I earn more with ews keys then with cas!
1 success is better then i have had mate. i must have tried atleast 14 times now and everytime the car starts but the remote doesnt work. Yeh i make alot more money on ews keys aswell, i have done so many of those now i could do them blind folded. Where do you get your cas keys from mate? i got mine from here
http://www.vag-info.com/Transponder%20keys.htm
it was a complete waste of money though and you have to buy a minimum of 5, i have lost so much money on these
gtmech
29th May, 2011, 09:26 AM
use the tmpro module to write the cas keys, it doesnt change the dump and works 100%
thats not true mate, you do have to re-write the dump, its not possible to do it without re-writing it.
The TMPro works with what keys? where are you getting the keys from to work with this as i have tried many times and again the remote doesnt work for me. But yes TMPro is the best out there without a doubt
autofan1965
29th May, 2011, 09:51 AM
thats not true mate, you do have to re-write the dump, its not possible to do it without re-writing it.
The TMPro works with what keys? where are you getting the keys from to work with this as i have tried many times and again the remote doesnt work for me. But yes TMPro is the best out there without a doubt
It is true, bmw CAS keys work like EWS keys. You have next keys data stored in CAS and when You order it by local dealer, master dealer write on key this data and send to Your local dealer. You put just it in ignition and should work. Bmw keycoder work on same rules, just make key like oredered from dealer.
autolockie
29th May, 2011, 07:55 PM
My score is 6 failed & 1 success. Bmw cas3/4 key programing is more a theory! Dont get me wrong, key starts the car, but remote worked only once out of 6 attempts!! Thats alot of money waisted, how much should i charge a customer? $5k for a spare key?
I dont want to go into how much bmw commander costs!
Hence the reason we waiting for Advanced Diagnostics to finish BMW CAS Programming, expected to be released in next couple of months.
hack_dd
29th May, 2011, 11:10 PM
hello
for which model you talk exaclty? ALso what transponder have inside key?
autofan1965
29th May, 2011, 11:17 PM
All new models with key without ignition(and early E6X serie with regular ignition) except F series. With Hitag2 transponders.
gtmech
30th May, 2011, 09:17 AM
It is true, bmw CAS keys work like EWS keys. You have next keys data stored in CAS and when You order it by local dealer, master dealer write on key this data and send to Your local dealer. You put just it in ignition and should work. Bmw keycoder work on same rules, just make key like oredered from dealer.
Yes my apologies 'drivesure' and 'autofan1965', I dont why but I thought you were talking about plain 7936 chips and making transponder keys with them. If you do this the CAS module needs to be re-programmed (if using TMPro2) but the CAS Keys dont require re-programming of the CAS Box yeh, sorry my bad guys.:stupid::stupid::stupid:
gtmech
30th May, 2011, 09:22 AM
Hence the reason we waiting for Advanced Diagnostics to finish BMW CAS Programming, expected to be released in next couple of months.
interesting. But again without using OEM keys it will be interesting to see how good this will work as Abrites BMW CAS programming is pretty much the best out there at the moment and it doesnt work either, i wont be keeping my hopes to high
autolockie
30th May, 2011, 11:21 AM
interesting. But again without using OEM keys it will be interesting to see how good this will work as Abrites BMW CAS programming is pretty much the best out there at the moment and it doesnt work either, i wont be keeping my hopes to high
Agree, but at least it won't cost the earth. I was thinking of investing into vag commander but one of friend who owns an original one worth ?4.5k say its not worth the money. So am not so sure, might as well stay with tried and tested. honest opinion not being biased.
simon77
30th May, 2011, 10:42 PM
i have been using bmw keycoder and i have done 10 cas keys so far without any problems at all, does remote perfectly. purchased keys from china . i have opened one to see whats inside and they are original!.
regards.
gtmech
31st May, 2011, 12:17 PM
i have been using bmw keycoder and i have done 10 cas keys so far without any problems at all, does remote perfectly. purchased keys from china . i have opened one to see whats inside and they are original!.
regards.
really? Cool, got a link to where you bought it from mate? cheers
obdmaster
31st May, 2011, 04:12 PM
Where you buy your smart keys from simon77 m8??????
malczykos
5th June, 2011, 07:13 PM
Soon I had to buy the equipment, but reading what you write I am concerned. It is worth to buy this ABRITES Commander for BMW or 7.0 but may be problems about which you write?
Regards
labusas
6th June, 2011, 01:18 PM
RE: tmpro2
Please clarify what does "CAS reprogramming needs to be done" when using TMPRO.
Is it just writing a file to CAS generated by TMPRO or some sort off matching, flashing with DIS?
gtmech
9th June, 2011, 01:44 PM
RE: tmpro2
Please clarify what does "CAS reprogramming needs to be done" when using TMPRO.
Is it just writing a file to CAS generated by TMPRO or some sort off matching, flashing with DIS?
For CAS Remote Key = You need to re-program nothing, just read CAS Box and program CAS Key, job done.
For normal Transponder Key for CAS system = You need to read CAS Box, then TMPro precodes a standard 7936 chip for you. The chip then needs to be manually added to CAS Box dump and then CAS Box needs to be re-programmed with new dump, and then car will start.
Hope this helps
cammy25
13th June, 2011, 02:14 PM
Not 100% true Gtmech :canabis:
The Hitag2 SN must be rewritten into CAS. It doesnt matter if its any PCF79XX.
If its automated ,it doesnt mean it doesnt happen.
The Remote ISK is also a seperate code that has to be written into the CAS.
Post a dump and i'll show you where it is Gtmech, maybe its better to program the key manually instead of buying this lousy tool (which i also have bought).
I find it a very bad thing ,that they dont fix the remote issue for such an expensive tool :eviltongue::eviltongue:.
Last week I also found an other bug: I tried to program a cayenne (2006 old algo) in Kessy unit, and it ~~~~ed up my kessy dump!!!!! Then i tried the shitty cheap Hitag2 tool from china, which is a copy of their own junk AND VOILA ...worked like a treat ...
Then i asked muself: Why did i payed 600 for this TAGTOOL? Now i wonder why i payed over 10 000 for All the packages i bought.:stupid::stupid:
autofan1965
13th June, 2011, 06:03 PM
Hitag from china is not cloned version from abritus, it is more cloned version from ru.
cammy25
13th June, 2011, 06:16 PM
BUT I MEAN: THE HITAG2 TOOL cloned in CHINA FROM ABRITUS.......
ELSE I WOULD HAVE SAID : HITAG2 programmer cloned in CHINA FROM AVTOTOOLS.
But thnx for so not intended correction.
gtmech
14th June, 2011, 09:12 AM
Hi cammy25, thanks mate ill take you up on that offer and send you a dump, I really appreciate that buddy. Your right mate, the Abrites could be better and the Tag Key Tool is even worse, its way to expensive for what you get I totally agree.
Yeh mate I have spent a few thousand on this tool so far aswell for BMW, Mercedes and Porsche, was going to go for VW aswell but Im sorry Abrites, you need to get all these bugs sorted out with your software, I also am finding more and more everyday, very frustrating when your working on $50,000+ cars everyday
Ive used chinese clones with less bugs then the Abrites, very very dissapointing Abrites, not impressed guys, not impressed at all :deal:
Not 100% true Gtmech :canabis:
The Hitag2 SN must be rewritten into CAS. It doesnt matter if its any PCF79XX.
If its automated ,it doesnt mean it doesnt happen.
The Remote ISK is also a seperate code that has to be written into the CAS.
Post a dump and i'll show you where it is Gtmech, maybe its better to program the key manually instead of buying this lousy tool (which i also have bought).
I find it a very bad thing ,that they dont fix the remote issue for such an expensive tool :eviltongue::eviltongue:.
Last week I also found an other bug: I tried to program a cayenne (2006 old algo) in Kessy unit, and it ~~~~ed up my kessy dump!!!!! Then i tried the shitty cheap Hitag2 tool from china, which is a copy of their own junk AND VOILA ...worked like a treat ...
Then i asked muself: Why did i payed 600 for this TAGTOOL? Now i wonder why i payed over 10 000 for All the packages i bought.:stupid::stupid:
Fallen
14th June, 2011, 09:45 AM
We are running out of tools gtmech!
We both agree our carprogs suck balls and now I hear my Abrites is not all it's cracked up to be?
Where to next? BMW Keycoder?
:)
gtmech
14th June, 2011, 10:03 AM
We are running out of tools gtmech!
We both agree our carprogs suck balls and now I hear my Abrites is not all it's cracked up to be?
Where to next? BMW Keycoder?
:)
i know buddy, what are we going to do now? I think ill pass on BMW Keycoder for now, thats a very expensive tool and now after spending my money on all this crap software Im running out of money, lol.
znakedwrx
14th June, 2011, 02:09 PM
Really no point spending so much money when there are no WORKING keys!
My local Bmw dealer has lowered CAS key prices!!!
EWS2/3/4 keys still have the same price!
nazz2
15th June, 2011, 02:15 PM
Well,if you guys can wait, im going to buy cas programming(to be realeased soon) update for my ad100 pro,i will post results! then.
saying that you also need ad900 pro,since i have zbull,not sure how this is going to work out!
megaexplosionman
18th June, 2011, 12:32 AM
hi mate
someone knows if this remote problem is FIXED ?
gtmech
18th June, 2011, 09:14 AM
hi mate
someone knows if this remote problem is FIXED ?
nope, the nightmare continues buddy
megaexplosionman
18th June, 2011, 07:13 PM
nope, the nightmare continues buddy
thanks buddy , do you know if bmw explorer from avtools is good tool for that work ?
:top:
gtmech
19th June, 2011, 02:06 AM
thanks buddy , do you know if bmw explorer from avtools is good tool for that work ?
:top:
sorry buddy, i havent used BMW Explorer before, anyone else tried it?
megaexplosionman
24th June, 2011, 11:26 PM
sorry buddy, i havent used BMW Explorer before, anyone else tried it?
Check your key if they are 315 mhz its not good for european cars.
gtmech
25th June, 2011, 08:38 AM
Check your key if they are 315 mhz its not good for european cars.
what do you mean? This car already has one key which is 315mhz so if I use a 433mhz key it wont work, can you please explain what you mean? cheers buddy
clearly
26th June, 2011, 01:53 AM
You need to make sure you have the correct Key
the Remote will Program in no problem
Some Keys about look geninue but fake have no RemoteData in transponders thats why the only start car
Made 20 + keys now with BMW Commander remotes work 100%
immo_key
26th June, 2011, 07:46 AM
You need to make sure you have the correct Key
the Remote will Program in no problem
Some Keys about look geninue but fake have no RemoteData in transponders thats why the only start car
Made 20 + keys now with BMW Commander remotes work 100%
Hallo mate
Where you buy the remote ?
Please give me the link.
B/R
imokey
gtmech
26th June, 2011, 09:42 AM
You need to make sure you have the correct Key
the Remote will Program in no problem
Some Keys about look geninue but fake have no RemoteData in transponders thats why the only start car
Made 20 + keys now with BMW Commander remotes work 100%
so are you saying the INTERNALS of remote key are different then my key? The electronics are different right? Problem is mate, how would I know this without opening up the key? Dont think the customer would be to happy about that, but yes I see what you:top: are saying, very very good point you make, hmmmmm Anyone know if the FCC ID will confirm this problem? It should do right? If the FCC ID is same then the insides of remote should also be identical right?
znakedwrx
26th June, 2011, 10:44 AM
Blue one is china build key 315mhz. dark green is 315-lp mhz key and light green is 868mhz.
315LP and 868 are original.
One thing which you are doing wrong is programing 315 mhz key into 315mhz lp (car from Japan).
315 mhz is USA key and cannot work on 315-lp mhz japan. also new zealand has most of the cars imported from japan with 315lp key - ALWAYS.
NZ new cars 90% have 434 or 868mhz.
From 2010 with latest cas and new idrive, you will find 315mhz (usa) version.
So Gtmech keep in mind 315 != 315LP
gtmech
27th June, 2011, 09:09 AM
Blue one is china build key 315mhz. dark green is 315-lp mhz key and light green is 868mhz.
315LP and 868 are original.
One thing which you are doing wrong is programing 315 mhz key into 315mhz lp (car from Japan).
315 mhz is USA key and cannot work on 315-lp mhz japan. also new zealand has most of the cars imported from japan with 315lp key - ALWAYS.
NZ new cars 90% have 434 or 868mhz.
From 2010 with latest cas and new idrive, you will find 315mhz (usa) version.
So Gtmech keep in mind 315 != 315LP
thanks for the info, ill see what i can find and try try again.
P.S. We dont have 868mhz here at all mate
znakedwrx
27th June, 2011, 10:50 AM
Yes you do have :) Wanna bet?
Fallen
27th June, 2011, 11:44 AM
I've seen 1 series Beemers with 868mhz in Oz
gtmech
28th June, 2011, 11:56 AM
Yes you do have :) Wanna bet?
are you from New Zealand? Ive never seen 868 ever yet. Maybe the Porsche Panmeras might be 868 though but not sure as havent worked on one of them yet (i wish)
gtmech
28th June, 2011, 11:58 AM
I've seen 1 series Beemers with 868mhz in Oz
wow ive never seen those either in 868, you from Oz buddy?
sparkz02
28th June, 2011, 01:47 PM
Can i get a review, from you guys seems AVDI has some problems on CAS but would you buy it again? or you'd pick something else? if so what?
Also do you ever get problems connecting with the CAS or it connets all the time? Fairly simple to use?
I'm interested in it because it does mileage + immo code... but just want more reviews.
obdmaster
28th June, 2011, 07:31 PM
From what ive read on AVDI FORUM CAS mileage by obd is working 100%, i myself did a cas 3 mileage from 2007 e90 by cas connector ( before by obd update ). Not had chance to test by obd yet.
As far as im aware the problems with keys remote not working is due to the keys, not the abrites function.
Would i buy abrites again ????????
Most definately its changed by business for the better.
sparkz02
28th June, 2011, 09:47 PM
When you did it by connector, did the remote work? or not? I'm planning to just buy the cas2/3 by connector for now, because I don't mind taking the CAS out takes seconds.
What told do you use for mercedes keys?
Thanks.
obdmaster
28th June, 2011, 09:51 PM
I never made a key m8 i was doin mileage.
And ive never done a key for a mercedes i think abrites again does them though m8
gtmech
29th June, 2011, 09:29 AM
I never made a key m8 i was doin mileage.
And ive never done a key for a mercedes i think abrites again does them though m8
Abrites wont do all mercedes, it says it does but it doesnt, its fine for ML's and DAS3
sparkz02
2nd July, 2011, 06:50 PM
Sorry for the silly question i don't konw much about keys, whats DAS3? which mercs does these cover? Thanks
milanista
2nd July, 2011, 08:21 PM
Sorry for the silly question i don't konw much about keys, whats DAS3? which mercs does these cover? Thanks
DAS 3 means Infrared Key with microprocessor in key (Motorola or NEC).
DJAMY
3rd July, 2011, 02:24 PM
THIS is procedure to mak remote for CAS
Install CAS and connect the plug.
Old key with a blade:
Insert the key in the ignition lock.
Switch ignition ON (position 2).
Wait at least 30 sec.
Switch ignition OFF and remove the key.
Insert the key in the ignition lock and start an engine.
Allow the engine to run at least 1 min.
Switch ignition OFF and remove the key from the ignition lock.
Close all doors, if it was open.
Press buttons CLOSE, OPEN at the key, remote is ready for operating.
New key without a blade:
Insert the key in the key hole. The mechanism will ***8220;suck***8221; the key.
In case of no activity see hardware problems such as solder points, plugs, etc.
Switch ignition ON (position 2).
Wait at least 30 sec.
Switch ignition OFF and remove the key.
Insert the key in the key hole and start an engine.
Allow the engine to run at least 1 min.
Switch ignition OFF and remove the key from the ignition lock.
Close all doors, if it was open.
Press buttons CLOSE, OPEN at the key, remote is ready for operating.
At an old CAS mainly on E65 the remote may not operate after this procedure. In this case, leave the vehicle and close all doors.
Wait about 5 min, within this time a dashboard will switch off, also will off illumination and the car goes into the ***8220;sleep***8221; mode.
Enter in the car, start an engine for a few seconds, switch ignition OFF and press buttons of the key. Remote must be active.
clearly
11th August, 2011, 06:51 PM
For 868mhz and 315mhz Smartkeys
also 315mhz and 433 diamond bmw keys
( no advertising your site m8 )
tested working good
labusas
12th August, 2011, 01:37 AM
Holly, did you see the price of them, 140 squid. Not much margin. I know they work though.
Did anyone tried with tag key tool and a dump from CAS?
gtmech
19th August, 2011, 07:43 AM
For 868mhz and 315mhz Smartkeys
also 315mhz and 433 diamond bmw keys
can be found at
tested working good
Looking at there website shows nothing??
KEYS (http://www.kapdiagnostics.com/index.php/keys.html)
immo_key
31st October, 2011, 07:16 AM
For 868mhz and 315mhz Smartkeys
also 315mhz and 433 diamond bmw keys
can be found at
tested working good
Halo m8
How about the price ?
Regard
gtmech
31st October, 2011, 08:24 AM
Halo m8
How about the price ?
Regard
dont bother, there EML Keys are just chinese clones, very dissapointing to find that from a company like KAPS :beheaded:
54321
31st October, 2011, 08:50 AM
..........
bali motor
31st October, 2011, 07:49 PM
about this site: 2005 BMW 645 Keyless Entry Remote 05 645i 645Ci KR55WK49127 (http://originalkeyless.com/2005-BMW-645-Keyless-Entry-Remote-05-645i-645Ci-KR55WK49127-05-645-Smart-Key-Remote.htm;jsessionid=4FF0F1079F43AD4EF89D218D679C BC85.qscstrfrnt04)
simon77
31st October, 2011, 09:20 PM
do not buy 2005 BMW 645 Keyless Entry Remote 05 645i 645Ci KR55WK49127 (http://originalkeyless.com/2005-BMW-645-Keyless-Entry-Remote-05-645i-645Ci-KR55WK49127-05-645-Smart-Key-Remote.htm;jsessionid=4FF0F1079F43AD4EF89D218D679C BC85.qscstrfrnt04) these are s/h keys and are all 315 mhz i have been down that road it will take 2 months to turn up and when they do they are no good.
regards
gtmech
1st November, 2011, 08:41 AM
do not buy 2005 BMW 645 Keyless Entry Remote 05 645i 645Ci KR55WK49127 (http://originalkeyless.com/2005-BMW-645-Keyless-Entry-Remote-05-645i-645Ci-KR55WK49127-05-645-Smart-Key-Remote.htm;jsessionid=4FF0F1079F43AD4EF89D218D679C BC85.qscstrfrnt04) these are s/h keys and are all 315 mhz i have been down that road it will take 2 months to turn up and when they do they are no good.
regards
thought it was to good to be true. Damn and i thought the nightmare of finding Diamond head Cas keys was looking promising, the CAS Diamond head keys are not even in exsistence, impossible to find anywhere on earth i swear. Thanks for the warning buddy :top::top::top::top::top::top:
nazz2
1st November, 2011, 07:24 PM
Has any body tried the keys from www.noimmo.lt (http://www.noimmo.lt) ? they are selling beemers and mercs keys,maybe worths a look.
gtmech
2nd November, 2011, 09:46 AM
Has any body tried the keys from www.noimmo.lt (http://www.noimmo.lt) ? they are selling beemers and mercs keys,maybe worths a look.
hmm, well there mercedes ml keys are ok, they seem to be brand new condition with uncut key blades (definitely not chinese crap) but there vito keys came with cut key blades so no use at all to me. Havent tried the bmw keys of theres. Only downside to these guys as they are very slow so hope your not in a hurry to get your keys plus there email replies are slow to nothing, they may email you once but after that they just seem to ignore emails
nazz2
2nd November, 2011, 11:17 AM
I have bought their stuff from their dist. in uk, which was good, but havent bought or emailed them yet, so nah, for me customer service always comes first!
gtmech
2nd November, 2011, 11:20 AM
I have bought their stuff from their dist. in uk, which was good, but havent bought or emailed them yet, so nah, for me customer service always comes first!
whos there uk dist mate?
nazz2
2nd November, 2011, 05:18 PM
WWW.KEYPRINT.CO.UK (http://www.KEYPRINT.CO.UK)
JIMMYQ
5th November, 2011, 03:24 PM
i did a 2010 bmw 320d E90N with avdi bmw commander did it within minutes. Also bought key off kap 868mhz looked original to me :(
ps. i dont work for or know kap or abritus in person just incase you think im always praising their tool and support but i cant fault anything from kap or abritus sorry
labusas
5th November, 2011, 08:52 PM
Hi Jim,
Did you use avdi with tagkeytool to do it?
gtmech
6th November, 2011, 07:50 AM
i did a 2010 bmw 320d E90N with avdi bmw commander did it within minutes. Also bought key off kap 868mhz looked original to me :(
ps. i dont work for or know kap or abritus in person just incase you think im always praising their tool and support but i cant fault anything from kap or abritus sorry
I have tried numerous keys with that abrites BMW commander and lost thousands of dollars with it, it definitely does not work, the remote side never works, only the transponder part. Tried 3 different key suppliers and 3 different key types all from different suppliers of course. I have checked everything including all settings in CAS and never find any problems or have any success and i know im not the only one who is having this problem. Abrites is SERIOUSLY soooooo buggy, for the money it costs its a pile of shit IMO
gtmech
6th November, 2011, 07:53 AM
Hi Jim,
Did you use avdi with tagkeytool to do it?
ive tried both mate, neither work. If you dont have it and are thinking of buying it, dont waste your money
hack_dd
7th November, 2011, 08:59 AM
Hello GTMECH
In finally from where you buy this keys? You use original virgin keys or you use used one and change only transponder inside key?
If you use original one virgin key you will never have such problems.
gtmech
7th November, 2011, 10:37 AM
Hello GTMECH
In finally from where you buy this keys? You use original virgin keys or you use used one and change only transponder inside key?
If you use original one virgin key you will never have such problems.
all keys are new, some were original and none of them worked. Where do you get your keys from that you reckon work?
ivo123
8th November, 2011, 01:31 PM
Personally I never had a troubles with Abrites Commander for BMW.
Programming of a keys by dump of the CAS is stuiped. From more than 2 years BMW storing key information in the engine and gearbox electronic.
If this works somewhere this probably because car is with old software.
labusas
8th November, 2011, 02:29 PM
Hi Ivo. This is good info. So please confirm that you can or cant program keys with tagkey? If can't then you yoursef call Abritus stupid. Thanks
gtmech
8th November, 2011, 11:30 PM
Personally I never had a troubles with Abrites Commander for BMW.
Programming of a keys by dump of the CAS is stuiped. From more than 2 years BMW storing key information in the engine and gearbox electronic.
If this works somewhere this probably because car is with old software.
then can you tell us how you are programming them with your BMW Commander? You do realise that not all these BMW CAS Keys can be done through OBD2 with Abrites right? If key info is not ONLY stored in CAS Module as you say then I cant see how it is humanly possible for the Tag Key Tool to do it as the CAS dump is all it works from? Or am I reading your post incorrectly?
Fallen
12th January, 2012, 12:25 PM
Got an update on this situation Mech?
Still no go?
vincent123
12th January, 2012, 01:58 PM
(315 LP mhz) try this
gtmech
13th January, 2012, 08:49 AM
Got an update on this situation Mech?
Still no go?
im over it mate, i refuse to use AVDI any longer. Nope it doesnt work, but Key Coder does, its not cheap but its worth it so thats what im using these days mate
gtmech
13th January, 2012, 08:50 AM
(315 LP mhz) try this
nope, ive tried every single CAS key ever made in the world, i swear to god i have lost thousands of dollars on it
mojomojo
13th January, 2012, 02:36 PM
A little off topic but but just trying to show how they are trying to silence the people exposing the problems with Abrites Commanders.
So gmtech have you been punished in other forums for saying the truth about Abrites Commander?
gtmech
13th January, 2012, 10:08 PM
A little off topic but but just trying to show how they are trying to silence the people exposing the problems with Abrites Commanders.
So gmtech have you been punished in other forums for saying the truth about Abrites Commander?
lol, so you have been banned aswell yeh? Many others have aswell from what ive read here on DK. Thats why we are members of DK, the mods dont ban you for having an opinion :)
PAPER1
4th February, 2012, 08:25 AM
im over it mate, i refuse to use AVDI any longer. Nope it doesnt work, but Key Coder does, its not cheap but its worth it so thats what im using these days mate
can you do a key with dump from cas unit ?
I need a key made with key #1 info .
here is my problem . I had 4 keys , key #1 , 2 , 3 , & 4 .
I now have only 1 key ( thanks to ex ) , which is key # 4 .
I need a key made with info from cas with key #1 info
so I can enjoy my Comfort access again . As you may
know comfort access only works with key #1 & 2 .
my car is a 2002 e66 .
Can you help me ???
gtmech
4th February, 2012, 10:23 AM
can you do a key with dump from cas unit ?
I need a key made with key #1 info .
here is my problem . I had 4 keys , key #1 , 2 , 3 , & 4 .
I now have only 1 key ( thanks to ex ) , which is key # 4 .
I need a key made with info from cas with key #1 info
so I can enjoy my Comfort access again . As you may
know comfort access only works with key #1 & 2 .
my car is a 2002 e66 .
Can you help me ???
Anyone who knows what there doing can fix that problem with GT1 for you. But if your trying to move key data around from 1 key position to the next I hope you know what your doing because that wont work, Comfort Access must be enabled through diagnostics, dont move key data from one position to another or you will screw your car well and truly, thats a big no no
PAPER1
4th February, 2012, 10:58 PM
Anyone who knows what there doing can fix that problem with GT1 for you. But if your trying to move key data around from 1 key position to the next I hope you know what your doing because that wont work, Comfort Access must be enabled through diagnostics, dont move key data from one position to another or you will screw your car well and truly, thats a big no no
No I am not trying move data around from key position 1 .
All I'm trying to do is find some 1 that can put the data
from key position 1 on a new or used key , So I can have
a key #1 again .
THANK YOU for your reply .
znakedwrx
5th February, 2012, 02:42 AM
With BMW Explorer you can swap key positions in CAS.
gtmech
5th February, 2012, 01:18 PM
No I am not trying move data around from key position 1 .
All I'm trying to do is find some 1 that can put the data
from key position 1 on a new or used key , So I can have
a key #1 again .
THANK YOU for your reply .
im telling you thats not neccessary to do that, GT1 will get key 4 to work as key 1 for you. If your looking for someone who can do it for you it might help if you tell us where your from and then someone in your area might be able to help you.
PAPER1
5th February, 2012, 11:51 PM
im telling you thats not neccessary to do that, GT1 will get key 4 to work as key 1 for you. If your looking for someone who can do it for you it might help if you tell us where your from and then someone in your area might be able to help you.
I am in Los Angeles California .
Do you know were I can buy a new
key that has never been programmed ?
I found this site on another forum , but members said
don't buy from them .
BMW - Original Keyless (http://originalkeyless.com/BMW_c36.htm;jsessionid=5C997756522F6CF4A2BAF7B96E5 F6E54.qscstrfrnt04)
gtmech
6th February, 2012, 08:52 AM
I am in Los Angeles California .
Do you know were I can buy a new
key that has never been programmed ?
I found this site on another forum , but members said
don't buy from them .
BMW - Original Keyless (http://originalkeyless.com/BMW_c36.htm;jsessionid=5C997756522F6CF4A2BAF7B96E5 F6E54.qscstrfrnt04)
anyone used that site for keys before? any probs?
PAPER1
26th February, 2012, 10:34 AM
:bebored:BUMP
labusas
26th February, 2012, 02:20 PM
Yes, they only have used bmw keys. I bought and they sent me a useless used fob for E90
simon77
27th February, 2012, 11:34 AM
do not purchase from Original Keyless (http://originalkeyless.com/BMW_c36.htm;jsessionid=5C997756522F6CF4A2BAF7B96E5 F6E54.qscstrfrnt04) complete fake they say they have original virgin key and remotes and after a long wait you will get your order which will be s/h remotes somtimes in new low quality covers or in the original damaged covers. you have been warned!!!
regards
dontzapit
28th February, 2012, 07:04 AM
do not purchase from Original Keyless (http://originalkeyless.com/BMW_c36.htm;jsessionid=5C997756522F6CF4A2BAF7B96E5 F6E54.qscstrfrnt04) complete fake they say they have original virgin key and remotes and after a long wait you will get your order which will be s/h remotes somtimes in new low quality covers or in the original damaged covers. you have been warned!!!
regards
thanks for warning mate, i was just about to order from them. :top:
amir_82013
4th March, 2012, 07:28 AM
hi
I bought the device BMW Commander 9.0 with Tag key Tool Full For BMW
BMW Package 2 ( BN002 + BN003 + BN004 + BN005 + BN006 + BN008 + BN009) With CAS 4 + ZN001
on 630i (2008) all lost remote key
i problem programming remote key
Body : Convertible
Region : Europe
Series : 6'E64 Lci
CAS3+(0L15Y)
868
According to the Lack of any kind of remotes, can we program new remote to the Vehicle ?
with device BMW Commander possible ? (In such a situation LOST ALL REMOTES)
does any on have this user manual v.9 BMW Commander ?
i have user manual v.8.2
please help me.
best regards.
obdmaster
4th March, 2012, 07:09 PM
Today i can put an end to this thread.
I have just got back from nottingham at the locksmiths show.
Where another DK member asked me to program a BMW smart key using my abrites AVDI BMW COMMANDER
His 2008 E60 was sat in the car park.
I did it like a lost key situation, turn headlights on and off and turn on radio.
This awakens the vehicle.
Start BMW commander with your ZN001 programmer connected.
Hit special function CAS keys, the program then connects to CAS unit and shows you key data , we chose key no.8.
Commander then asks you to put new smart key in ZN001 aerial.
A few seconds later it asks you if you would like to program remote function i chose yes.
then it completed procedure.
KEY WORKED TO START CAR AND REMOTE WORKED AND THIS WAS DONE BY ABRITES BMW COMMANDER. SO WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT GTMECH:beer:
100% WORKING
TESTED BY OBDMASTER
ghkarim
4th March, 2012, 07:41 PM
Today i can put an end to this thread.
I have just got back from nottingham at the locksmiths show.
Where another DK member asked me to program a BMW smart key using my abrites AVDI BMW COMMANDER
His 2008 E60 was sat in the car park.
I did it like a lost key situation, turn headlights on and off and turn on radio.
This awakens the vehicle.
Start BMW commander with your ZN001 programmer connected.
Hit special function CAS keys, the program then connects to CAS unit and shows you key data , we chose key no.8.
Commander then asks you to put new smart key in ZN001 aerial.
A few seconds later it asks you if you would like to program remote keyless entry i chose yes.
then it completed procedure.
KEY WORKED TO START CAR AND REMOTE WORKED AND THIS WAS DONE BY ABRITES BMW COMMANDER. SO WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT GTMECH:beer:
Please inform : what about keyless function ? does it ok .
Thank you for report
clearly
5th March, 2012, 03:45 PM
yes keyless go function also works as long as you have the correct keys
amir_82013
19th December, 2012, 07:10 AM
Today i can put an end to this thread.
I have just got back from nottingham at the locksmiths show.
Where another DK member asked me to program a BMW smart key using my abrites AVDI BMW COMMANDER
His 2008 E60 was sat in the car park.
I did it like a lost key situation, turn headlights on and off and turn on radio.
This awakens the vehicle.
Start BMW commander with your ZN001 programmer connected.
Hit special function CAS keys, the program then connects to CAS unit and shows you key data , we chose key no.8.
Commander then asks you to put new smart key in ZN001 aerial.
A few seconds later it asks you if you would like to program remote function i chose yes.
then it completed procedure.
KEY WORKED TO START CAR AND REMOTE WORKED AND THIS WAS DONE BY ABRITES BMW COMMANDER. SO WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT GTMECH:beer:
100% WORKING
TESTED BY OBDMASTER
OK . Thanks. But This CAS3+ Encrypted.
CAS3,CAS3+ WITH CAS3+ Encrypted is Different.
keygargoil
19th December, 2012, 11:27 PM
thanks for telling me this buddy, now i know its not just me. Has anyone actually successfully managed to program the remote side of a CAS Key? I have tried everything and spent thousands on this so far with no success. I dont think these CAS keys are possible to do, who wants to prove me wrong?
has the key been precoded
mahdalaieh
20th December, 2012, 05:21 PM
i had a 645 convertable that i had to do a lock out and keys from scratch, used pcf7936 transponder to make the key, the car went zoom zoom, but no remote action, the cas module BMrs need a different chip for their remote functions a pcf7946 ca be used to emulate it with a board built for 416mhz transmitter
ajman5252
21st December, 2012, 02:58 PM
sorry to interupt, Has AD engineers successfully introduced BMW CAS , or still under development??
it is been almost more than 1 year since they said it under development.
ghkarim
21st December, 2012, 03:05 PM
sorry to interupt, Has AD engineers successfully introduced BMW CAS , or still under development??
it is been almost more than 1 year since they said it under development.
yes, AD launched new sw and ready for CAS
labusas
21st December, 2012, 03:36 PM
I have MVP AD but they say software is not ready to be released for MVP, still buggy and if customers start waisting tokens it's not a good thing. So it seems still under development.
ghkarim
21st December, 2012, 04:00 PM
I have MVP AD but they say software is not ready to be released for MVP, still buggy and if customers start waisting tokens it's not a good thing. So it seems still under development.
but i's ready for tcode pro + ad900
indienick
21st December, 2012, 04:44 PM
i program CAS key to BMW with AVDI all the time, works fine....transponder and remote.
davidykhor
13th January, 2013, 05:09 PM
yeap never a single key fail
if the remote don't work, its either u are buyingfrom a bad source, keys are bad, or the remote frequency receiver at the rear window is bad.
:)
cheers.
sparkz02
11th February, 2013, 12:44 AM
I went through the whole thread, in the process of buying bmw key stuff from AVDI, I'm confused, has the people whom the keys were not working the remote part, actually got it to work? or is it still 50/50 some say no issues other half say there is some issues.
Fallen
11th February, 2013, 03:53 AM
All my keys have worked 100%
amir_82013
27th July, 2013, 06:45 AM
Remote or keyless go remote ?
912secured
27th July, 2013, 07:24 AM
legit avdi works fine aslong as car has not been to the dealers in the last 5 months. Then you need to solder.
Fallen
27th July, 2013, 09:52 AM
What do you have to solder?
If it has had INSTP-45 or whatever upgrade AVDI will flash through OBD.
hauwkee
28th July, 2013, 11:49 AM
it s hard to tell since bmw always update software .
now the question if car go to maintenance would they erase key or said keys were illigaly added to car so now need
new keys and new cas module 1800 so them no one will used locksmith
andrius
15th October, 2014, 11:45 PM
hi :) have read all post, but unsure, could someone tell, if tagkeytool 2.0 (old cloned vesion) does write the radio channel corectly or not ? :) i have one BMW standing, and one original empty key :) immo part is easy even by hand, but will i be able to program remote? :) many thanks :)
cqae
21st October, 2014, 11:26 AM
so where is everyone buying their keys? I have AVDI, but am yet to use it on BMW, but want to buy some keys & do a few
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