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Eskerra
13th June, 2012, 02:32 PM
Hi to all.
Trying to correct a Kangoo Nec, I do attach every wire like in picture described, attach as well 12v. to carprog, but I always get same answer, error:
"No response from dash".
It das light up for a little while, but shuts down again.

Is it any tricky?? is this tested??
Thanks
Regards

smartymarti
13th June, 2012, 02:52 PM
well if its a clone dont complain , if original ask support

Eskerra
13th June, 2012, 03:00 PM
@smartymarti. Thanks.
If it were clone, I wouldnt even post it.
Its original. Have asked already support.
But, you know how it is nowadays, everybody in a hurry(clients I mean).
So, just thought maybe someone point me to a solution.
Thats all, if not, will wait patiently till tomorrow or after tomorrow for support reply.

Regards

albertros
13th June, 2012, 03:22 PM
Hi,
the dash has got to be the one with the nec chip not the eeprom.They are both made by SAGEM

TULGEYWOODMAN
13th June, 2012, 11:45 PM
Good point
I remember doing that once!

honingkoning
15th June, 2012, 11:10 AM
Hi,
the dash has got to be the one with the nec chip not the eeprom.They are both made by SAGEM

You can see if its a nec or a eep on the white sticker, if there is eep written on the stickers it means there is a eeprom inside instead of a nec mcu.
So you can recognize before opening.

Regards Adam.

markony79
15th June, 2012, 11:17 AM
Hi to all.
Trying to correct a Kangoo Nec, I do attach every wire like in picture described, attach as well 12v. to carprog, but I always get same answer, error:
"No response from dash".
It das light up for a little while, but shuts down again.

Is it any tricky?? is this tested??
Thanks
Regards

Are you shore its Nec
maybe its hc908? can do on dash back conector

Boras
15th June, 2012, 12:19 PM
Sagem is with NEC78K, Jaeger is with HC908

To Eskerra:
Which color have Your board? Green or White?

Regards,

Boras

TULGEYWOODMAN
15th June, 2012, 12:30 PM
Are you shore its Nec
maybe its hc908? can do on dash back conector

I hope not, he has connected it up!

ridder
27th July, 2012, 09:27 AM
hello.
i bought myself a carprog.
today i wanted to test it and i got myself a dashboard. it is sagem.
i connected it as it is shown on the picture in carprog.
when i connect 12v the lights on dash goes on and when i try to read it also the km goes on (137700).

but it says that: No response from dash

i have this dash:

http://shrani.si/f/1v/sL/2cb9HV7q/dsc0003.jpg

http://shrani.si/f/3g/v6/47Zp85Pz/dsc0005.jpg

http://shrani.si/f/D/Hd/2qx4V6F5/dsc0004.jpg


i belive that it have hc08 inside? or not?
do someone have a list of renault cars with hc08 procesor.
in carprog it says that it is scenic, megane, clio and kango. but what year...

Correct R
27th July, 2012, 10:34 AM
all sagem dash with NEC from Renault are the same
Ive done a lot with DashDiag II from Smok with no problem

ridder
27th July, 2012, 10:35 AM
all sagem dash with NEC from Renault are the same

than why can't i read it?

Correct R
27th July, 2012, 10:40 AM
than why can't i read it?
I think connections arent right. you are connecting only k-line like Jaeger dash.
look on smok connections

newgeniehex
27th July, 2012, 10:48 AM
:bounce:
hello.
i bought myself a carprog.
today i wanted to test it and i got myself a dashboard. it is sagem.
i connected it as it is shown on the picture in carprog.
when i connect 12v the lights on dash goes on and when i try to read it also the km goes on (137700).

but it says that: No response from dash

i have this dash:

http://shrani.si/f/1v/sL/2cb9HV7q/dsc0003.jpg

http://shrani.si/f/3g/v6/47Zp85Pz/dsc0005.jpg

http://shrani.si/f/D/Hd/2qx4V6F5/dsc0004.jpg


i belive that it have hc08 inside? or not?
do someone have a list of renault cars with hc08 procesor.
in carprog it says that it is scenic, megane, clio and kango. but what year...

hello
you have a error whith your connection !!
ok your tacho is sagem but the k line is in the plug red!!!!
when you try to change the mileage whit carprog your all connection for this tacho!!!!

ridder
27th July, 2012, 10:56 AM
then toll me how to connect it the correctly?
i did the same as it is on carprog photo*?

thanks!

ridder
27th July, 2012, 11:04 AM
i don't have this cabel.
i have this one, is this ok?

http://shrani.si/f/2T/Ky/18s8GtCb/dsc0006.jpg

and how it is in carprog:

http://shrani.si/f/2Q/Hp/2rJavgJB/dsc0007.jpg

so this isn't hc08 or what?

thanks again :)

ridder
27th July, 2012, 11:17 AM
i try also on the jaeger from renault. carprog says that the pins are the same, and it also didn't work.

help please :(

smartymarti
27th July, 2012, 11:24 AM
to be honest if its a clone you have little right to complain end of the day its a chinky ripp off whatever works is a bonus

newgeniehex
27th July, 2012, 11:27 AM
then toll me how to connect it the correctly?
i did the same as it is on carprog photo*?

thanks!
hello
i think you don't have this option in your carprog
look this original :
Renault Megane, Scenic, Traffic dashboards with NEC programming by dashboard connector (http://www.codecard.lt/carprog/software/renault-megane-scenic-traffic-dashboards-with-nec-programming-by-dashboard-connector/prod_613.html)
cordialement

ridder
27th July, 2012, 12:13 PM
hello
i think you don't have this option in your carprog
look this original :
Renault Megane, Scenic, Traffic dashboards with NEC programming by dashboard connector (http://www.codecard.lt/carprog/software/renault-megane-scenic-traffic-dashboards-with-nec-programming-by-dashboard-connector/prod_613.html)
cordialement

so the only option to do this dash is to buy original software?
will it work with clone hardware?
so clone+orig. soft?


thanks!

honingkoning
28th July, 2012, 02:52 AM
so the only option to do this dash is to buy original software?
will it work with clone hardware?
so clone+orig. soft?


thanks!

my friend you are trieng to do a sagem dash with nec inside with option for jaeger, thats not possible.

so if you have a nec prog open dash and do it manually

drpeter
28th July, 2012, 11:04 AM
my friend you are trieng to do a sagem dash with nec inside with option for jaeger, thats not possible.

so if you have a nec prog open dash and do it manually

Is it so hard? Find the differences.... with a little bit of help

PremierD
28th July, 2012, 11:10 AM
Also says eep on the back if it is .. and don't if it isn't ... lol

ridder
28th July, 2012, 09:23 PM
so if i understand it goes:
white background=nec
blue/black background epp?

hc08 is epp and it is in blue/black dash and can do with carprog

but nec is in white and cannot do with my carprog?


i must buy tachopro :D

what about renault laguna 99 it is jaeger (written on front side)

possible?
is it hc08 inside?

Harrycz44
28th July, 2012, 09:42 PM
so if i understand it goes:
white background=nec
blue/black background epp?

hc08 is epp and it is in blue/black dash and can do with carprog

but nec is in white and cannot do with my carprog?


i must buy tachopro :D

what about renault laguna 99 it is jaeger (written on front side)

possible?
is it hc08 inside?

Hello SAGEM = NEC new model dashboard year 99 and up
JAEGER = HC08 new model dashboard year 99 and up

TULGEYWOODMAN
28th July, 2012, 09:43 PM
just to confusre the issue, there are some with different dial sheet colours that are not the same.

But as these cars are old I dont know why anybody would worry what kms are showing

ridder
28th July, 2012, 09:44 PM
thanks.
but why then didn't want to read laguna 99 jaeger dashboard?
is it just because it is clone?

thanks

TULGEYWOODMAN
28th July, 2012, 09:48 PM
thanks.
but why then didn't want to read laguna 99 jaeger dashboard?
is it just because it is clone?

thanks

probably.......................................... .....

ridder
29th July, 2012, 08:12 AM
another question.
i opend a das with softer curve (img.1) today and i would like to know what is written on the chip? on the dash it is JAEGER, so i belive it is not sagem so it is neither nec and also neither 95020.

what tool it then better for me, to do renault cars.

nec or tacho pro?

with nec programer won't i be able to do both dashes from upper picture?

TULGEYWOODMAN
29th July, 2012, 09:54 AM
another question.
i opend a das with softer curve (img.1) today and i would like to know what is written on the chip? on the dash it is JAEGER, so i belive it is not sagem so it is neither nec and also neither 95020.

what tool it then better for me, to do renault cars.

nec or tacho pro?

with nec programer won't i be able to do both dashes from upper picture?

Well open it up, Look for eeprom....................................

I assure you, you have not found some unique dash that nobody has seen before........its either eeprom or micro isnt it?

nerds
6th August, 2012, 01:04 AM
ele vem com esquema eletrico ,se tiver verifique os cabos quando comprei tacho pro meus cabos vieram com as liga?oes erradas it comes with electric scheme, if you check the cables pro pot when I bought my cables came with the wrong links

nerds
6th August, 2012, 01:27 AM
checked this processor and NEC, . you have toand not done so. have the reader nec solder the wires 15 to the processor, this system so you do jaeguer este processador e nec, nao e feito assim .voce tem que ter o leitor nec soldar os 15 fios no processador , neste sistema voce so faz o jaeguer nao se esque?a do obrigado

maumaumau
6th August, 2012, 06:07 AM
another question.
i opend a das with softer curve (img.1) today and i would like to know what is written on the chip? on the dash it is JAEGER, so i belive it is not sagem so it is neither nec and also neither 95020.

what tool it then better for me, to do renault cars.

nec or tacho pro?

with nec programer won't i be able to do both dashes from upper picture?

buy upa-usb....i did a lot of these clusters type with upa...no troubles

madbg
6th August, 2012, 07:33 AM
Be careful with tacho pro clone.I have one and nec adapter dont work.Xprogm cant do NEC.With UPA i think you need adapter.I by nec programmer and its work, but must disassemble the dash!Smok have tool Dash DiagII but its not cheap.

maumaumau
6th August, 2012, 08:52 AM
of course you will need nec adapter with upa usb...and you have to open the dash...

Harrycz44
6th August, 2012, 09:43 PM
...................

nerds
6th August, 2012, 10:28 PM
opens the panel that you see and NEC, the NEC did so programer