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ghostridersa
30th December, 2012, 08:31 AM
Good day members of DK

Over the past two years I have gone through 4 clone vcds cables. They last a few months and then either lock themselves or show up as unlicensed version after a while and then onlt read power train.

So I am asking myself do I pay R650, ($90) or do I buy the original Ross-Tech vcds for R3500, around ($300)? I would like to hear from the members who have used both the original and clone vcds what you think, does the clone work as good as the original, is it more stable, faster etc?

Many thanks in advance

Yuri_L777
30th December, 2012, 09:23 AM
It's easy to repair clone vcds, if it is based on Atmega chip. Did you try?

dimitar
30th December, 2012, 03:58 PM
I have both, no difference at all. Use them on a pc that never connects on internet.

ghostridersa
30th December, 2012, 05:09 PM
No I never tried to repair the cable as I dont have a programmer to program the chip.


It's easy to repair clone vcds, if it is based on Atmega chip. Did you try?

olegario
30th December, 2012, 05:33 PM
Clone Vag11.11 just 16$ on gocardiag, just buy another one.

ghostridersa
30th December, 2012, 05:44 PM
I am in south africa and buying it for $16 as you might sound easy to you but its not. It will take forever to reach me and then the customs and postal service have a go at me for more money and in the mean time my work stands still without the cable.


Clone Vag11.11 just 16$ on gocardiag, just buy another one.

luis12
30th December, 2012, 05:59 PM
I have both of them, clone are good for diagnosis but not for special funtions, clone of course dont have support but for the price. Original can do basic setting, SRI, codding, adapting, etc.

Yuri_L777
30th December, 2012, 06:09 PM
No I never tried to repair the cable as I dont have a programmer to program the chip.
Programmer for Atmega is not a big problem. For example, STK200 uses only 6 wires from LPT (but you must have in your PC).

ghostridersa
30th December, 2012, 06:13 PM
The problem with my current cable is that the software is installed but when I plug the cable into the laptop the cable is dead, light does not come on cable and there is no pop-up on my laptop screen to say interface connected.

Yuri_L777
30th December, 2012, 06:44 PM
The problem with my current cable is that the software is installed but when I plug the cable into the laptop the cable is dead, light does not come on cable and there is no pop-up on my laptop screen to say interface connected.
Then, first of all, you must check wires from USB to adapter. Good Luck.

ghostridersa
30th December, 2012, 06:47 PM
Already checked and all 4 wires are on the pc board,


Then, first of all, you must check wires from USB to adapter. Good Luck.

Yuri_L777
30th December, 2012, 07:06 PM
Which VID, PID has adapter in device manager? If it's other then VID_0403&PID_FA20, you need to use modified driver and write good dump in FT232 and then in Atmega eeprom.

ghostridersa
30th December, 2012, 07:18 PM
It would help me because I don't have the right equipment to do that.


Which VID, PID has adapter in device manager? If it's other then VID_0403&PID_FA20, you need to use modified driver and write good dump in FT232 and then in Atmega eeprom.

ghostridersa
30th December, 2012, 07:22 PM
USB\VID_059B&PID_0251\RT000001

Yuri_L777
30th December, 2012, 07:54 PM
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ghostridersa
30th December, 2012, 08:52 PM
Thank you Yuri_L777


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autobamm
30th December, 2012, 11:00 PM
check also LM7805

quinnd
6th February, 2013, 09:17 AM
I really want to fix my Vagcom cable too. My LED works but VCDS program wont open? I bought VAS5054a but it is a lot more difficult to operate, what would cause the program to not open? I have not had cable connected to internet (i think)

Stanton
8th February, 2013, 10:43 AM
I have both, no difference at all. Use them on a pc that never connects on internet.

Me too.

Then Im guessing you have never tried any parameter coding or to accesss any other control modules.

For sure clone has limited functionality.

For the price original can not be beaten...its peanuts.

Lima RS
17th February, 2013, 07:49 PM
My vcds clone work very fine :)

Pr3mu
19th February, 2013, 12:13 PM
buy from sklad or vagdiag .... best Euro quality products on net, no china shit!

dimitar
21st February, 2013, 09:20 PM
Me too.

Then Im guessing you have never tried any parameter coding or to accesss any other control modules.

For sure clone has limited functionality.

For the price original can not be beaten...its peanuts.

On the contrary mate , i have used clone on all modules for coding ,adaptation , DPF regeneration and all the other stuff that original supports. NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL. I assure you.

tehnosoftex
22nd February, 2013, 05:38 PM
Hi, I don't think that we must support clones, especially for cheap products like vcds, opcom or upa usb. If anyone will buy clones I don't see the reason why the developer to work any more. I don't know why Uve Ross is still developing his product. May be he is hoping that all ft232B interfaces will be over and will remain only ft232R interfaces which has a unique serial nuumber, like Opcom has.

BRAVO6
24th February, 2013, 10:57 PM
Hi, I don't think that we must support clones, especially for cheap products like vcds, opcom or upa usb. If anyone will buy clones I don't see the reason why the developer to work any more. I don't know why Uve Ross is still developing his product. May be he is hoping that all ft232B interfaces will be over and will remain only ft232R interfaces which has a unique serial nuumber, like Opcom has.

I's agree with this. Most of the diagnostics is over priced for small operators. Original VCDS is good value with lifetime software updates and tech support.

busaman
25th March, 2013, 07:39 PM
i have genuine VCDS its worth every penny, never any problems tech support 100% free updates. i would pay ?100 every year to have it same goes with op-com top marks a little more expensive but you get what you pay for, tech support at the end of the phone both excellent products.

ts55
27th March, 2013, 01:30 PM
Another agree, I have original and worth every penny, its worked flawless for years, free software update, great tech support and reasonably priced for what it is...unlike MBZ that want 20k for original

Joe019
28th March, 2013, 06:05 PM
i have original VCDS too and its the best order that i did. Never has problem and the best.... the free updates. Its not expensive the orignal VCDS, i advice too all members buy it. I know that its difficult for some person pay the 300$, but when you use at least for a month, you will see that its a good tool.

its my opinion...

br!

mango924
3rd April, 2013, 09:23 PM
i have original VCDS too and its the best order that i did. Never has problem and the best.... the free updates. Its not expensive the orignal VCDS, i advice too all members buy it. I know that its difficult for some person pay the 300$, but when you use at least for a month, you will see that its a good tool.

its my opinion...

br!

totally agree mate and with other posters,no hassle and free updates :tennis::tennis::tennis::tennis: