Fiat Examiner (old) drivers

[ACDC]

Hi everyone

I have recently acquired an old fiat examiner (HP with a 486DX processor inside), it's HDD broke, and lost everything on it. I saw a few posts here and elsewhere about recovery cd-s but all of them were for windows98. But unfortunately win98 won't install on this, I only managed to install win 3.1, but there's absolutely nothing for it. I'm also curious if I get another similar motherboard for this examiner (one that supports ISA slots and has a Pentium I processor in it for example) will I be able to install the examiner software still, or will this make it impossible?

[dopsleutel13]

Its for windows 3.11 !! :D
Its better to trash it because you can use Fiat ecuscan
Multiecuscan - Diagnostics software for Italian cars (Powered by FiatECUScan) (http://www.multiecuscan.net/Default.aspx)
or Alfa OBD (is better i think) AlfaOBD (http://www.alfaobd.com/download.html)
For minimum of cost's Euro 50,00 or a frind can help with activation tools.
:D

[ACDC]

I'm only messing around with it, I don't really intend to use it for some serious diagnosing...I got other tools for that :D
I'm mostly just interested in it's touch screen, but I can't find drivers for it. Doesn't anyone have something for this oldie? :)

[yellowstilo]

the drivers are included in the Recovery cd which is basically softwareversion v1.0 from which you can upgrade to v 5.40 max.

[ACDC]

I think the recovery cd I got is V2.2.
The version.txt says:
CD RECOVERY EXAMINER FIAT
VSOFT VISU=V2.2
VSOFT=V2.2.1
DATE=25/06/2004
But this is for win98! Isn't this for the examiner smart? I doubt it's touch screen has the same drivers or does it?

[Alfa GTV]

If I remember correctly, I used these when I was in the same situation as you, DOS and Windows 3.X -> dwdsk.zip.

Elo Touch Solutions — Archived (unsupported) drivers and files (http://www.elotouch.com/Support/Downloads/dnld_archive.asp)
The old HP Examiner is better to use when dealing with older Alfas than Fiat ecuscan/Alfa OBD is.

[columbo25]

The latest CD release for the "good old black examiner" is
5.40 with floppy disk to recover the system !

MS-DOS 6.2 with Win3.11 on Top !

columbo25

[yellowstilo]

I think the recovery cd I got is V2.2.
The version.txt says:
CD RECOVERY EXAMINER FIAT
VSOFT VISU=V2.2
VSOFT=V2.2.1
DATE=25/06/2004
But this is for win98! Isn't this for the examiner smart? I doubt it's touch screen has the same drivers or does it?

the V2.2 recovery cd is for the Examiner Smart, it won't work for the old HP Examiner.
You will need the recovery cd for the old HP Examiner, it includes the drivers for the touchscreen...

[columbo25]

You can also install a complete english WIN3.11 for Workgroup incl. MS-DOS and than you have only to copy the folders from the Examiner 5.40 cd over the existing Windows installation !

So i realised a little mini examiner without touchscreen and the old VCI-Card without CAN option !

[ACDC]

Thanks for the replies, now I managed to get the touch-screen working thanks to Alfa GTV :D
Does anyone happen to have this examiner 5.40 recovery cd?
I'm also thinking about swapping the motherboard for this examiner to something a bit faster, but if I do can I still use the recovery disc?

[Alfa GTV]

You can also install a complete english WIN3.11 for Workgroup incl. MS-DOS and than you have only to copy the folders from the Examiner 5.40 cd over the existing Windows installation !

So i realised a little mini examiner without touchscreen and the old VCI-Card without CAN option !

Do not think you can do so, you need to use the Examiner installation program at least if you have a VCI-Card with CAN support, each version of the Examiner software installs its own version of firmware to the VCI-Card and the Examiner software are complaining if there is a mismatch between
Examiner software and VCI-Card firmware.

[Alfa GTV]

Thanks for the replies, now I managed to get the touch-screen working thanks to Alfa GTV :D
Does anyone happen to have this examiner 5.40 recovery cd?
I'm also thinking about swapping the motherboard for this examiner to something a bit faster, but if I do can I still use the recovery disc?

There is no Examiner 5.40 recovery CD but there is recovery CD's for Examiner (DOS/Win 3.X), Examiner + (Win 95), Examiner Smart (Win 98) containing drivers and OS files for the various Examiner units.

Examiner 5.40 is the Examiner diagnostic software you use when you are "talking" with your Alfa/Fiat/Lancia.

You do not need to have the floppy disk to install the Examiner diagnostic software if you have drivers for the
CD-ROM unit installed (generic drivers works) so that you have access to the CD-ROM unit and are able to run the Examiner diagnostic software installation program directly from the CD.

[columbo25]

Man,

shure i know what i?m talking about, because i did it !!!

The old black Examiner one, first diagnostic computer for all F/A/L Models.

To the beginning the computer was configurated only with a VCI - ISACard and one Diagnostic connector. When they start with A147 and Stilo they changed the ISA-VCI Card to a card with two connectors K-Line and Can.

This old card where most dealers pushed into the trash i have builded into an old single computer compaq Pentium one without Touchscreen but with mouse and normal monitor !

The floppy disk only starts the computer format your harddisk make it bootable and copy the whole cd to the harddisk.

Thats the way from the old black Examiner one with msdos and win311 system !!!

See the picture of the file structure

[ACDC]

Man,

shure i know what i?m talking about, because i did it !!!

The old black Examiner one, first diagnostic computer for all F/A/L Models.

To the beginning the computer was configurated only with a VCI - ISACard and one Diagnostic connector. When they start with A147 and Stilo they changed the ISA-VCI Card to a card with two connectors K-Line and Can.

This old card where most dealers pushed into the trash i have builded into an old single computer compaq Pentium one without Touchscreen but with mouse and normal monitor !

The floppy disk only starts the computer format your harddisk make it bootable and copy the whole cd to the harddisk.

Thats the way from the old black Examiner one with msdos and win311 system !!!

See the picture of the file structure

And where did you get that CD? It's impossible to find anything for this thing.....

[columbo25]

:hello: Here is my contribute, release 5.40 the last for the old dos/Win311 Examiner ! :hello:

Download:

[ACDC]

Hey, thanks for the upload Mr Columbo! :D Could you also share the pass for the archives? :)

[ACDC]

Can anyone help me with the connectors on the examiner? Which one is used for diag for example, and how to connect it? I don't have a cable for it. I read there is a mpx97 adapter for diagnostics does anyone know or have a drawing of it's wiring by chance?

[AOYM]

:hello: Here is my contribute, release 5.40 the last for the old dos/Win311 Examiner ! :hello:

Download:


thank you my friend.

[ACDC]

Nobody has anything for this mpx97 cable? :(

[Alfa GTV]

Nobody has anything for this mpx97 cable? :(

Ok here is a bit about the cables, you have a upgraded VCI card with VCI and CAN/EOBD see picture below,
in the pictures of the cables I have numbered the pins in accordance with how I've counted them, I've done
it this way in an attempt to avoid confusion on which pins at each end of cable that should be connected
together.

VCI cable, Fiat 3 pin diagnostic connector it is also used to connect to the MPX97.

1/K is connected to pin 4 on the 15 pin connector on the other end of the cable.
2/GND is connected to pin 1 on the 15 pin connector on the other end of the cable.
3/L is connected to pin 2 on the 15 pin connector on the other end of the cable.

MPX97 is a manual switch/multiplexer with 12 positions that connects to the 16 pin OBD socket(not a real
OBD diagnostic socket) used on Fiat/Alfa/Lansia pre CAN/EOBD, Examiner diagnostic software tells you what
position number you should use to connect to the device you want to do diagnostic on, there are some
electronic stuff in the MPX97 when it requires power from the 16 pin OBD socket to function properly
but it will probably work equally well if you build a mechanical switch that connects to the correct pins.

pin 4 connects in all positions to pin 2/GND on the VCI cable (pin 1 on the 15 pin connector that connects to the Examiner).
pin 10 connects in all positions to pin 3/L on the VCI cable (pin 2 on the 15 pin connector that connects to the Examiner).

position 1 on MPX97 is connecting pin 8 to 1/K on the VCI cable (pin 4 on the 15 pin connector that connects to the Examiner).
position 2 on MPX97 is connecting pin 6 to 1/K on the VCI cable.
position 3 on MPX97 is connecting pin 2 to 1/K on the VCI cable.
position 4 on MPX97 is connecting pin 1 to 1/K on the VCI cable.
position 5 on MPX97 is connecting pin 16 to 1/K on the VCI cable.
position 6 on MPX97 is connecting pin 14 to 1/K on the VCI cable.
position 7 on MPX97 is connecting pin 13 to 1/K on the VCI cable.
position 8 on MPX97 is connecting pin 12 to 1/K on the VCI cable.
position 9 on MPX97 is NC.
position 10 on MPX97 is connecting pin 1,2,6,8,12,13,14,16 to 1/K on the VCI cable.
position 11 on MPX97 is NC.
position 12 on MPX97 is NC.

CAN/EOBD :
pin 2 on the 16 pin OBD connector connects to pin 5 on the 15 pin connector that connects to the Examiner.
pin 4 on the 16 pin OBD connector connects to pin 8 on the 15 pin connector that connects to the Examiner.
pin 5 on the 16 pin OBD connector connects to pin 2 and 9 on the 15 pin connector that connects to the Examiner.
pin 9 on the 16 pin OBD connector connects to pin 1 on the 15 pin connector that connects to the Examiner.
pin 10 on the 16 pin OBD connector connects to pin 7 on the 15 pin connector that connects to the Examiner.

You also need a cable that connects to the battery of the car for the Examiner to function properly when doing
diagnostic, both + and - are protected with a 15A fuse.

[Alfa GTV]

some more pictures.

[MCNexo94]

Hello i am search CD FLASH EXAMINER v6.x or later you have ???

Thanks

[Alfa GTV]

If I remember correctly Examiner flash CD rel 5.6 is the last one, after rel 5.6 you have to use the net to get the files.

[eobd]

i think too , after 5.60 only web

[zsoltmora]

The CAN interface is not OBD connector?
Dismantled?
Not sure your picture?

[Alfa GTV]

The CAN interface is not OBD connector?
Dismantled?
Not sure your picture?

I'm not quite sure if I understand your question correctly but if are you refering to "(not a real OBD diagnostic socket)" I did not mean it physically, the OBD socket is a real one but have been differently connected inside compared with a normal OBD connector.

[zsoltmora]

I'm not quite sure if I understand your question correctly but if are you refering to "(not a real OBD diagnostic socket)" I did not mean it physically, the OBD socket is a real one but have been differently connected inside compared with a normal OBD connector.

Thanks Alfa GTV!!

Thanks for the picture!
This I would like to build electronics.
Can you help someone?

[ACDC]

Thank you for the pictures Alfa GTV! Does anyone happen to have a wiring diagram for that eobd can connector zsoltmora posted the picture of?
Also does anyone have the flash cd for this old examiner? I looked around for them but all the download links seem to be dead.
Thanks in advance.

[Alfa GTV]

Thank you for the pictures Alfa GTV! Does anyone happen to have a wiring diagram for that eobd can connector zsoltmora posted the picture of?
Also does anyone have the flash cd for this old examiner? I looked around for them but all the download links seem to be dead.
Thanks in advance.

I do not have any wiring diagram about the eobd can connector and can not exactly see what it is on the circuit board (without destroying it) because of all the glue, but it seems to be built around a Philips TJA1053 IC.

I think that v.1.6 maybe v.2.1 is the latest version of flash CD that you can use on the old Examiner.

[ACDC]

Does any of you have an idea where can I get an eobd can cable? Is there a chance that it is for sale on some website somewhere?

[columbo25]

Here is the last Flash-CD 3.40 for the old Black DOS-Based Examiner and the User-Manual.

Minimum Examiner Release for using this Flash is 5.20

ACTIA was the Distributor for for thing.

[ACDC]

After all the help I got from here I still can't get my examiner to work like it should. It's multimeter part works perfectly, it's vci card passes all the tests, but cannot communicate with cars...if I measure the K-line with an oscilloscope I only see one impulse when I start the communication and nothing else. And I can only start up the examiner program and windows if I replace my system.ini file with the one before installing the examiner program. If I don't do this windows cannot start and I get an error message saying "error loading linear8.drv". I think I'm missing some drivers or some important files here....I think it might me the display drivers, but I don't understand why won't the installer cd copy these onto the hard drive.
I really wish I could get this old relic to work...

[paro44]

Iirc in win3.11 drivers are loaded from "config.sys" and "autoexec.bat".
You can try to open that files (after examiner installation) in notepad and follow the path and look, if the needed file is there (like c:\win\system). Or comment them out with "REM" or delete the line where "linear8.drv" is loaded.
That linear8.drv seems to be part of graphic card driver from "Chips and Technologies". You can also try to install that driver manually. If you google for "linear8.drv" you can find that win3.1 driver and some tips for install.

[ACDC]

It WORKS!!!

I managed to solve the problem. I had a save from another hard drive (that died shortly after), and put two files: CHIP31.386 and VTDA.386 into the windows system folder (after install, windows were missing these two files), and then in system.ini I replaced this line: "display.drv=LINEAR8.DRV" with this: "display.drv=VGA.DRV". And that was all. Works like a charm!
Thanks for all who helped! :D

The only thing I need now is a CAN/EOBD cable, as it has a small electronics circuit built inside, and I don't have a wiring diagram for that to be able to copy it. Does anybody here have one for sale? Or have any links where can I buy such a cable?

[Gyubrush]

:hello: Here is my contribute, release 5.40 the last for the old dos/Win311 Examiner ! :hello:

Download:

Hello!

Any other link please?This is dead...:)

I have the old black examiner with 3.11 and suddenly i get the message "the communication board has not be detected" and "try to reinstall the release"

Any help here?

Thank you!

[hotboard]

Here is the last Flash-CD 3.40 for the old Black DOS-Based Examiner and the User-Manual.

Minimum Examiner Release for using this Flash is 5.20

ACTIA was the Distributor for for thing.

hello dear
please there is any new links ?
thank you
best regards

[hotboard]

:hello: Here is my contribute, release 5.40 the last for the old dos/Win311 Examiner ! :hello:

Download:
please dear can you renew the links - it not working
thank you for all

[Gyubrush]

So after a lot of research and the much needed help from member brchip i found out what causes the no comminication board message.

First of all the correct settings to the bios are the following:

378406

If everything works fine after that there is no need to read the rest of this post.

But if at startup you get the message CMOS battery failed/low etc then you have to replace the battery because cant save any changes to the bios.

Battery of this motherboard is the old one styled sealed in a box.
Either you find a new one and desolder and solder again or you can open this box take out the old battery put a socket with a new battery and done!
378410378411378415378416

My way was to open the box by melting the upper surface with the solder.
Another way is with a dremmel but it requires desolder the battery box.

[Gyubrush]

If everything is ok then you get these pictures:
378418378419378421378422

[mis]

Hi!
I have an old Examiner plus.
I changed the CMOS battery.
The bios settings have been reset.
The dvom card does not work.
Someone can send pictures to the original BIOS settings?
Thanks!

[compac]

Hello coumbo25, can I download the 5.40 examiner release? Thanks! Sorry for the language I work with google translate I am from belgium.

[Gyubrush]

The original bios settings are in my post.All you have to do is to change to the correct settings as in the pictures i posted above

[Gyubrush]

Hi!
I have an old Examiner plus.
I changed the CMOS battery.
The bios settings have been reset.
The dvom card does not work.
Someone can send pictures to the original BIOS settings?
Thanks!

The original bios settings are in my post.All you have to do is to change to the correct settings as in the pictures i posted above

[fochista]

Hello!

I'm an Alfista from Austria and found this Thread very useful, as I'm playing around with 2 "black examiners".

One of them is already working with the old VCI Card. The second one waits for a new CMOS Battery... My solution is soldering a 24pin chip- socket to the Main board and pulluing a new DALLAS Chip in.
But first I'd like to make the really correct BIOS Settings and get the newer VCI/ CAN Board running (It's already dedected by the Mainboard and by the Examiner Software, but after about 15sec. of "connecting to a ECU on a car" it breaks with "no connection possible" I think this could be a problem with the not matching Flash Version at the VCI Card and the Software version.

I've several original Discs here, but not the all the versions of Examiner cd's
I have one Recovery disc (Release 1.0 from July 1997) and the following Examiner Software Releases
3.2 (12/1996)
3.3 (04/1997)
3.4 (09/1997)
3.5 (03/1998)
3.6 (09/1998)
3.7 (03/1999)
4.0 (07/1999)
4.10 (02/2000) - This one was running with the old VCI Card
4.40 (03/2001) - This one was asking for the new VCI/CAN Board but I got no connection to the ECU as mentioned above
5.0 (10/2001) - The last one with a floppy disk
5.0.1 (11/200) - Last one I tried to install until yet
5.30.1 (02/2003)

Has anybody a full list of Releases? Can you tell me the versions I'm missing?

And is there another version or release between the 5.30.1 and the 5.40, which is the last one for the "black examiner"

Many thanks in advance!

Greets from Austria to all of you, fochista!

[hotboard]

Hi dear i have an old examiner with can vci card and many versions of software from 3.2 until 4.3 but i have a problem no connection
I need flash disk i haven't any one and more latest versions after 4.3 and if you have recovery cd
Can you help by make image floppy and cd of this versions and tell me how get right connection
Thank

[fochista]

Hello!
In the meanwhile I've got all my 2 examiners running. Connection possible to the ECU's of some cars. I had the same issue with connection problems with the VCI / CAN Card and found another card on the internet, bought it and the connection ist possible with the "new VCI / CAN Card"
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FLASH CDs - The Flash CDs are only for Updating a cars ECU!!!
The eeprom on the VCI Card is flashed at first bootup after installation of a new version!!! (Of course this can only be done if the BIOS Settings are correct AND the CMOS Batt. issue is solved - SEE ABOVE!)
The latest version for the first VCI Card (with only one 15pin connector for the 3-pin "fiat plug") is the Rel. 4.10!

I have one faulty VCI / CAN board which is sending a signal out to the ECU of a car (I'm sure about that because on a '97 Gtv the key symbol at the dash lights up at a connection with the ecu), but doesn't get a connection. So I think this faulty board sends something but isn't able to receive anything.

Is anybody around here who had a similar problem and got it solved already?

For any CDs or Floppys it is better to copy them direct from CD to CD or Floppy to Floppy without image. I had several problems with images. If you need a copy please send me a PM.

Regards. Fochista.

[kingdom1981]

Hi to all, where i can get the 5.40 software or an image with windows 3.11 because all the links are dead. Thank you very much!

[162B6C]

Hi there,

i digged out this old thread About the Alfa Examiner :-)

At first i want to say thank you to all contributors of this thread, as i found very helpful hints about this examiner device.

Actually i try to tune the HW a Little bit. The MoBo has two RAM sockets and therefore i added a second ram modul (same Samsung type as the original) with another 8 MByte. During boot the ram is checked and ok. But when Windows starts it hangs after the Windows Logo. I also tried with two 32 Meg Kingston edo ram modules. The 64 Meg are recognized and checked but it hangs again after the Windows logo.

Did anybody successfully add more ram and if yes what is the trick? Second did anyone install a DX2 66 MHz or even a DX4 CPU?

KR
162B6C

[nono06]

Hello
i have old setup floppies for the first look. i'm looking for that w.end.
in any case, the program must be installed by diskette, given the date of manufacture.
tranduction by gogole.
if i have the program, i will put it on my mega count and pass in pm

[nono06]

I have the cd 3.2 5.2 and 5.20.1, the 5.3 then also 6.2 and 6.5
flash 4.2 and 5.6
also floppies 3.1 and 3.4 for windows 3.1
probably others in my workshop.I will see what we do.
I do not know if I have 5.4
all original articles

[nono06]

Hello kingdom
I have 5.2 / 5.3 and 5.5 if you still search and with floppy disks

[162B6C]

Hi,

i upgraded my black Examiner with Win 3.1 from a VCI card to a VCI/CAN card. The installed examiner software was 4.2. Now i upgraded to 4.3. The problem is, that even after the sw upgrade examiner starts with the warning

"this examiner has a communication board which has not been updated! Consequently some programs will not work correctly. Solution: The Instrument must be updated with the new VCI/CAN board … "

=> the examiner update routine does obviously not check which board is installed.

Does anybody know which changes need to be done manually or could eventually post his ini files here in the forum? I suspect some changes in win.ini or System.ini are missing.

Can anybody help me out?

[162B6C]

issue solved :-)

[Meat-Head]

issue solved :-)

Well upload your working solution with no password

[1608cc]

"this examiner has a communication board which has not been updated! Consequently some programs will not work correctly. Solution: The Instrument must be updated with the new VCI/CAN board … "


Have similar message after upgrade from 3.6 to 5.40 (VCI / CAN card can't be configured, and it isn't visible for examiner, before upgrade it was) Bios battery is died (is this cause ?)... How did You solve problem?

I changed bios settings, but probablly battery must be changed (to prevent settings erase) , and then rel. must be installed again to configure VCI board - right ?

EDIT :
DS12887+ ordered. I will change it, and then VCI should be recognized.

Here's some examiner files (I have many rel. CD's from 3.1 but haven't got time for copy it) :

3.4 floppy : https://mega.nz/folder/jR4XTZYR#g_9xAVDcdycVKku3sAAq7A

5.20 floppy : https://mega.nz/folder/3ExBQAgB#nzwolexpscOW3eywOE7xPg

rel. 5.20 : https://mega.nz/folder/yYBmHSCa#oXagUzjcmSgzzMaocsHlJw

rel. 5.30 : https://mega.nz/folder/acQWgQYD#umpgeOu83rDNpioZj9c8cQ

rel. 5.40 : https://mega.nz/folder/6RxxxJLS#dZZL7EMpjy2hadPdtYiiuA

rel. 5.60 (works on old black Z5082B, but must be installed from DOS level) : https://mega.nz/file/DRgRBRya#fawavNB_xPBhUpVUgNUk1EWQWPgZAy9SPjGLSitto XA

flash CD 3.5 : https://mega.nz/file/2YxFXDID#8d3Q8uPj99xE_-f3BbBsjVU9ivScWdgo3YVw0s3g91g

recovery CD v1.0 : https://mega.nz/file/2YoFHRgS#NLgXsAMKWBEYo9J15jIyxk7vEB-3D5IL_WBOV1GJE8o

RS232 mouse driver (If touchscreen is dead. Put it on drive, and write patch to autoexec.bat, so driver will automatically start with examiner) : https://mega.nz/file/iRoF3TKS#QfTzfPIbEFCLD_EcuFinIATTy8JYlGzxGEAlabfih ek

PS2 to RS232 mouse adapter : https://hackaday.io/project/27575-ps2-to-rs232-mouse-converter

[162B6C]

@1608cc

i downloaded the recovery cd link, but it has only 7 MByte and after unzipping it, it seems that a lot of files are missing. Could you post an ISO Image of the original CD?





(I have many rel. CD's from 3.1 but haven't got time for copy it) :




Do you also have the 5.60.2 CD ???

Kind regards

[162B6C]

I changed bios settings, but probablly battery must be changed (to prevent settings erase) , and then rel. must be installed again to configure VCI board - right ?



the VCI/CAN board should also work with a dead BIOS battery. The CMOS Settings are needed for the DVOM Adapter only. You can easily test it with the Diagnose functions of the examiner.

The black examiner also works with 5.60.1. I have written a small script to install it.

Here some further suggestions for improvements:

- install a 3COM ISA 10 Mbit LAN Interface with a RJ45 plug + WfW 3.11. WfW 3.11 natively supports this Adapter. Then you can share your C drive and map this drive from another machine and copy files to the examiner throu the Network. Makes it much smoother
- replace the floppy drive with a floppy Emulator and copy all floppy Images on a USB stick
- Change the Jumper Setting on the MoBo from 25 to 33 MHz and the CPU runs with 66 MHz instead with 50 MHz
- it is also possible to upgrade the RAM from 8 Mbyte to 64 Mbyte, what is the maximum supported by MS-DOS
- there are PATA - SATA Adapters available, which allows you to replace the hard disk with a SATA one.
- solder a socket on the Mobo what makes the CMOS battery plug and Play


Kind regards


PS: i am quite confident, that it is also possible to get the 6.x versions up and running, but to script it is a bunch of work because of the big number of files ...

[1608cc]

I think recovery CD zip is good - it's only DOS, win and drivers. Examiner need to be installed separately. Here is .daa image : https://mega.nz/file/zdYkAQ4C#lsJNqsRoZuKbOSCXt54d5t9_VydPOxWdbAO3uUjkk 0E

Rel. 5.60.1 : https://mega.nz/file/HcQwxSiD#-qT8ozwGzDbjiRicnf3uDr4YVGwGDHbE9WxStAsb4n4

Rel. 5.60.2 : https://mega.nz/file/zRBSHAKA#58Jvml4SwdDcxeepzx3YI1Y79fm4dfD9eeDhKGABY vo

I suppose, rels 5.60.1 and 5.60.2 is only preparation for password type actualisations. 5.40 rel is enough for me - it support all of ECU's in Lancia Thesis which I want to use Examiner with. My friend tested rel 5.60, and it work much slower than 5.40.



- Change the Jumper Setting on the MoBo from 25 to 33 MHz and the CPU runs with 66 MHz instead with 50 MHz
- solder a socket on the Mobo what makes the CMOS battery plug and Play


Done. 66MHz appear in bios menu after jumpers change. I soldered socket too - DS12887 must have good contact, because otherwise examiner won't start.

With battery down, DVOM adapter isn't recognized (ISA configuration in BIOS, was resetting all time). With new DS, DVOM works (I checked ampere meter and 5 bar pressure sensor - only thermometer not work, idk why, but it doesn't matter now (all measurments kits are factory new !))

The most important thing not work - VCI card. I have two cards old VCI without CAN, and CAN upgrade one, which was mounted when I bought it. I took it off, and then saw F1 fuse, replaced with 2mm wire... Very good idea !!! Led's on VCI board flashes, but card hasn't got comunication with mobo. I mount old VCI card, and it has been immediately recognized by examiner. It pass ineternal ROM test, but when I short K and L line it fails this test - probably release must be older one, to works with this card.


Anyone has idea what can be wrong with CAN VCI ? Maybe flash memory is down ? (Intel 28F400 with mot. mc68hc16z1cfc16 co-op, programmer is veeery expensive to read 28F400 via mc68 BDM)

[162B6C]

in the Folder \dev are three Tools which you can use to check whether the vci board is recognised:
- vcirst.exe: Returns an errorlevel value, depending on what type of board is recognised
- dnld_vci.exe: to upgrade the Firmware of the old vci board
- dnld_can.exe: to upgrade the Firmware of the Combo board

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the latest Firmware for the VCI board is dated 13th of June 2000. After this time there where no more updates. This version should work with your Version 5.40.
For the CAN-BUS Card a new Version comes with every examiner Version. This means you should install the Firmware which was shipped together with Examiner v5.40.
For me 5.60 works with the same speed like 5.40

[1608cc]

CAN is still not recognized ...

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I update firmware in old VCI, and Examiner says that card must be changed to new CAN version, otherwise not all functions will work (I hope kline will)

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The CAN card in one of older eper costs over 2000 euro... I asked my dealer, but it will be probably not even available to buy.
I bought second Examiner with damaged display, and I hope its CAN card will work...
Any other ideas, what part of CAN card can be faulty ? ISA port is for sure 100% working - VCI works on it.

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did you try to connect with the old VCI board with an ECU and do you get data? You can perform all diagnosis which is possible with the 3 PIN FIAT connector. For sure you cannot do tests where you would need the OBDII connector.


Last year i also contacted an Online Alfa Dealer for a VCI CAN board. It seems that the cards are still in stock, but much to expensive. The dealer was not interested to sell me the Card, wanted to know for what i do need it and so on. He advised to contact a local dealer …


Your VCI CAN Card is probably dead. No idea how to diag it.

[Neuge]

Hello, can someone tell me what the Flash CD is for?
I have an old Fiat Coupe and there is nothing to program. Is it?
Perhaps someone has the pinout of the DVOM card from you?
Unfortunately I don't have a cable for it and would like to build one.


Oh yes, I also have the black examiner.

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Flash CD's contains softwares for control units (mainly ECU's). When Fiat release updated software / ECU with different number, you only need to reprogram old one using examiner - don't have to change control unit. You want pinout of DVOM connector or wiring of DVOM cable (used to connection of auxiliary measure tools such as amperemeter, thermometer to DVOM card ?)

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- it is also possible to upgrade the RAM from 8 Mbyte to 64 Mbyte, what is the maximum supported by MS-DOS


Hi, as commented before in the thread, despite the machine handles well, 16, 24, 32, 64MB configurations I found too that as soon as you upgrade the memory beyond 8MB there seems to be a conflict with the video card which displays black screen on Windows graphic mode. System is not crashed as Enter + Alt+F4 + Enter + Alt+F4 + Enter will quit Examiner.exe and quit Windows normally. It may be that using another more standard SVGA card does the trick. However has anybody been able to set more than 8MB of Ram satisfactorily in the Black examiner?

regards,

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as soon as you upgrade the memory beyond 8MB there seems to be a conflict with the video card which displays black screen on Windows graphic mode.
regards,

Hi,

change your graphics driver in the Windows 3.1 setup to standard VGA. Then it works with more then 8 MByte RAM. Obviously the graphics driver has a problem with more then 8 MBytes of RAM ...

kind Regards

[Neuge]

Hello.


Does anyone have the pinout of the DVOM card?