CK100 New Package SBB version37.00

[ray-ray]

Looks like they crack the bomb in the SBB and redid the package. Here is a link to the new look SBB CK-100 37.01 the latest SBB key programmer - OBDchina (http://www.obdchina.com/ck100-auto-keys-pro-tool-key-programmer-p-1656.html)
Three weeks ago was the first time it was made public. The price was $520.00 . After there New Years the price went up to $570.00 & per sale only.That means the first batch sold fast. Is there any member who has info or hand on tested the unit.

[Automat]

Looks like old SBB and new X-100+ all rolled into one.

[ray-ray]

I guess we will be the first to use and try it out. Everybody else is sleep.

[camelgd]

Not asleep, too poor to go out on a limb and saw it off, with every new "saw" that hits the market!!

[ray-ray]

By summer time, your cost will be $86.00

[Automat]

I doubt it contains anything more than what many of us already have.
When my existing junk starts to malfunction, I just may buy one or two, hopefully at $86.00 USD. :))

[912secured]

it is v37 uses a different display type thats why it looks different (think its made by the same who made clone smelcom) and custom custom bootloader by the time march comes around their will be different version by ilco. It reads fobik A B the spanish 300 read old. Fords more organized to us market. and toyota g key others have done for a year and a half, coves the new fiat 500 which uses the same protocall of one of the non us ford forget off hand (uses same ecu/bcm) us 2012 is different than euro or changed first.

[ray-ray]

A friend pick his unit today came with ( 5 ) tokens all was working perfect. New toyota G and others no problem then the tokens ran out (paper weight now). Seem that china are putting clock counter and token on all there new clone products. One more thing to worry about when buying clones.

[Automat]

Those lousy skunks!! Did he pay for it already? Put a stop-payment on that card.......Thanks for the warning Ray.

[ray-ray]

Pay with card and no slot for token card. I'm taking picture to share with the forum.

[ray-ray]

here is the inside to the new package SBB china clone. Once again trying to break the open source code.

[912secured]

The one I used, took apart had tokens but the soft was activated. Thats why i thought of brute forcing the tko for software you did not buy. Run 2 codes and repower, use a stamp kit a relay and a sbb keypad from a junk unit just get timming right. Also with dump 33.01 could activate via u3 or u4 forget. Some dumps where activated all just like the unlimited card activates it. Other was a database with some off some on not hard to figure out. But they did alot from 33.01 security wise. Thought of just adding what I logged to v 28 or older. Could add boats skidoo to it and some bikes.

[ray-ray]

test on 5 differant dodge,chrysler,jeep type 2 work perfect. So early type 1&2 working. maybe i should start a new tread on what is working ck100.

[autofan1965]

test on 5 differant dodge,chrysler,jeep type 2 work perfect. So early type 1&2 working. maybe i should start a new tread on what is working ck100.

It will be good idea. Orginal SBB should have update for Subaru CAN, can You post pics from Subaru menu?

[Automat]

5 tokens on all tested? Or was that just a junk unit?

[ray-ray]

My friends unit came with 5 token he burn them all up on type 2 chrysler.

[912secured]

Some are unlimited some had a amount of tokens think they where testing on the people. They loaded their code then jumped into ilcos code. Made by smelcom and automam most likely or they used same case maker(doubt). Must of missed a check that reverted back to 5 tokens. On the sbb keep on plugging power on then off by supply it would corrupt it back to 5 if you had less or corrupt firmware all together. Need to read the chip its not soldered so that save some headach and reuse when tokens are used. There is some u3 and u4 code in same chip? They had space so guess they saved money (in the future and use larger). Took over a year for a clone group to hack originally, give it alittle more time to work out bugs. but they will use that one chip for updates and tokens (you could rewrite the byte that is the token just put it into the keypad scanning section and on boot up its what they did with the t300's). They should of but that black resin over it and in the future just sell them for updates.

[912secured]

Ray-Ray I logged how to erase and program flash and eeprom. (they removed the eeprom and one atmel check in the flash) Did you not say You figured how to read via rs-232? could be usefull need to . For ones without the hardware you could make a simple board to jump to the rx,tx.

[Automat]

Any more news on this tool? Did anyone else dare buy one?

[gwee]

is not stable, that is why uobd2 told me today that is not officially launch yet.

[912secured]

It locks up after key programming sometimes need to disconnect as soon as keys are programmed or gets stuck programming. ilco must of put a check there also when it goes to take a token or checks if its open. White screen of death they need to add a cable for flash fixing and updates. There is a 4 pin port on the bottom???

[ray-ray]

2 version are showing up here in the USA. The token base has 1150 and the count is fix. The token do not count down "STUCK" . The other unit has no token and seem to be stable. More testing is being done, here are some details.
1. New pcb board lay out and screen display.
2. New guie ck100 start up menu.
3. No missing chip and all surface has been wipe clean.unknown chipset layout.
4. Version 37.00 with enable flags (most level start at 1 & goes up) level 0 is missing for the package. (BOMB!!) remove.
5. More remote section added "Can GM"

[hauwkee]

what u source for the ck100 obdchina

[ray-ray]

My agent is working on the next batch, with a better price. I've been testing the token base unit. Programing has no issue, has no fail yet. No tokens for remote section and working good & easy on GM,toyota. They did a good job, worth the buy. Hopefully there is no clock to add to the token base unit.
Next test is to read the chip or transfer it to a 33.01 version sbb.

[hauwkee]

sound good waiting for your update on it tkk ray

[Automat]

Too cool!! Looking forward to new toy for my collection....Awesome Ray!!

[Meat-Head]

your friend that ran out the 5 toekens what has his seller said?

[ray-ray]

Obdchina is not replying over a month now, PayPal return his money. He is shipping it to me so I can upload the version I hhave with 1025 tokens. If I can get it to take the dump onto a sbb version 33.00 I will post the dump free for all.

[ray-ray]

Seem that the token are random.
toyota Camry 2012 add key 60seconds to complete (no token)
Honda civic 2008 all keys lost (no token)
gm "can" remote section 08 Acadia,09 traverse, 11 express,09 Buick enclave,07 impala (no token)
Mazda 2003 pick up (ford ranger) >>>>TOKEN
Nissan 2006 Titan (bcm pull serial no token)
Nissan 2006 Titan program key >>>>TOKEN
the second batch of clone are being develop by a member here. He will give a follow up report on the progress
plan is to increase token bank or delete it.

[obdiidiag1986]

5 tokens is that engineer forgot the burn the tokens inside for fist batch sample machine .now all is 1100 tokens , Just newer cars need tokens .

[obdiidiag1986]

Hi Ray , i am going to ship one CK100 key programmer to you for Machine test.

[Meat-Head]

5 tokens is that engineer forgot the burn the tokens inside for fist batch sample machine .now all is 1100 tokens , Just newer cars need tokens .

So run out of tokens and its scrap?

[912secured]

To keep code changes down he needs to just keep it token based and keep it high and let us run them down. I hope he dumped a new unit instead of patching the hell out of the old code to get it to run. Also keeps the other unit sellers from taking his code and putting it in the peices of shit units. That you know if they can they will open them back up and unsolder reflash and put back (or make a simple adaptor that plugs in and does the rs232 and does it as a simple update just like ilco would. I would of started with a new unit kept the eeprom code portion there and unchanged. The proper atmel code to card slot and eeprom. You can fake that the card slot is still there a high or low signal. The closest to original less for them to have code difference kills . One developer added security so it would device mismatch if Sbb firmware was tried to be used as updates. They changd it to sdd in the other chip so they did not match up. I did not spend much time on it but figured the tiers on the v28. Thought of putting newer soft onto older firmware unit just to get it working for everyone. Also would take one of the cars and change display to say g key g key prox. ford / ford 80 bit and match up with ad's programming protocall for onscreen. Its a pain trying to find cars like honda that use 7 and find a car under the same on the tko/sbb sdatabase.

[Automat]

How about 11,000 tokens instead...if you can't get rid of the token problem, that is.

[keysmith]

I would have no concern for the 1100 token time bomb. I haven't used my T300, SBB or MVP Pro 500 times combined. We all know that something newer, better and cheaper will be released before the 1100 tokens runs out.

D.

[ray-ray]

2012 Honda crv no token.
today I use the unit on 7 cars and no tokens.

[Meat-Head]

Are these real customers cars you are trying on or randon folks in parking lots?

[ray-ray]

Dealer trade in make second key so they can resale again.
2004 dodge Durango program! no token>>ECU not found version 33.00
2008 Honda fit program! no token>>ECU not found version 33.00

[camelgd]

Looks like it is racking up failures like the 33.02. I guess the idea is to take on new vehicles, not vehicles that are old and getting older.

[ray-ray]

Both cars did program with ck100 but with sbb version 33.00 it wound not communicate.
that the reason I posted the problem cars are being address and working.

[camelgd]

Sorry, I misunderstood!! You can't expect someone born and raised in the Midwest USA to understand English!:tennis:

[912secured]

Gotta think like ilco. 3 chess moves ahead. Change as least as possible. Think of checks they will add for a kill. tokens being added without card? Highest amount of tokens???? Update system security to protect you and them. You do not want to have people with free updates, when charging others?? Least code changes. Reasonable amout of tokens (not 13,000). Keep
eeprom and rs232 chip untouched. Love thy mother and father and buy a real upgrade for your x-prog=M. How to go about token fix. Find one of the main loops thats repeated, have it write the amount of tokens you want (you do not want them to stay set
in stone you want them to go down untill reboot. I would check (if I was ilco if they went down after programing(chess not checkers)) Mine died on fobik A pin read,( need to see if theirs a kill there?). No screen changes and if so find a spot and scribble until it has the same checksumm later they might check to kill. Change not one byte of language (could check and
kill) not a car or year ANYTHING. Do not get rid off the eeprom the atmel to the eeprom and make it think the card slot is their or put it back into the design. If you change the serial it displaces alot just let it show. Do not block it from showing. Ck 100 needs to be put back to original. If they block it from updates you can put in another. Have it fake to the
rs232 a different serial once its blocked. Have a jump early on set the amount of tokens you need 5 would be a good number. On every bootup have it rewrite 5 tokens good number, and have it go down with each write. If the car eats 5 up then theirs
problems with it out of our controll. Just unplug and get your 5 back. If you can think of anyotherways of detection of a clone sbb (besides the sbb/tko item mismatch). The byte change for adding tokens on bootup can be discovered code change.
There ways of hidding it once you know how they look for it. You can make a fake upgrade that would hide in a open space of code. With one jump point to add tokens (add like 25) and then change back jump for tokens then put firmware back to whatever it was before the fake update fix that byte change and deal with code that is sitting in extra space. It is then 0000 or FFFF the free space back and it would be like nothing change. When tokens are done upgrade (fake upgrade) then plug into the wall and it will load tokens fix version number and there will not be one byte of detectable change.

[ray-ray]

Mike good points like always, I'm looking at a different path.

[912secured]

I would hate to see what they are looking for now. If I had a SDD (real I could get us all back up for around another 1000). Do not want to support the asians (thought of adding digital-kaos security???) Got 34 to run but it died eventially just like the cl 100's are the X 100 are logging the units for what they do not have on 4-18 releasing a major pin reading. The fiats in us have diferent ecu's from rest of world. Honda 2.027 other with different area and factory pass no check for keys odometer.

[P&D]

Just had an email to check the CK100 out
Just thought i would share it

CK-100 Auto Keys Programmer (SBB V37.01) (http://www.imautokey.com/showproducts.asp?id=1719)

Price 698$

Not convinced tho about this item.....as they say.....

Note:
When using if it fails to adapte key, then disconnected OBD16 adapter and car connection, after 10 seconds connect again, otherwise vehicle immo system may damaged, CK-100 locked.

[912secured]

When using if it fails to adapte key, then disconnected OBD16 adapter and car connection, after 10 seconds connect again, otherwise vehicle immo system may damaged, CK-100 locked.

If it checks for if a token has beent removed or not, and is not tiered in it can kill cars that it pin reads by writing the eeprom instead of just reading. Thats why free fobik read killed. Mazda and ford can be killed turn pin code to 8 mins or ready to roll keys or have some junk that nots just all FF FF FF FF will confuse ecu and your shit out of luck.

Ray do you have the dumps to the 2 chip machine (just wondering) that is working ok???

[Automat]

This thing is sounding dangerous to use......

[912secured]

They added too many checks just let x100 log it and ad pro and other units BMW??? and newer porshe untill 2010 are easy. My only problem if a car has simple pin read just let it read before programming add option in unit to turn option on and off. Some newer skim units force whole eeprom read not just single bytes(old AD could not handle that so had to update unit or add eeprom in dongle and read single from it old unit could of handled untill today by protocall. seen unit that was modded to make it think all keys programed failure? but reset ford fine keys rolled fine) and emulation of a machine old first and new was buggy. emu used VVDI???

[trafix]

How's the CK100 compared to x100? Is it worth the $200 px difference?


B.R

[ray-ray]

Ck100=TKO latest version (ilco release 100% working software)
x-100=patch software t-code (ad release 75% working)

[sunlocksmith]

what do you mean so i can not use the crysler fobik <pincoderead> please explained please and if you have teste on any toyota g chip.:deal:

[912secured]

The early one died on ck100 fobik pin read killed it. Newer unit build did not try yet. Spanish t300 knock off fead regular fobik not A or B. X-100 Read fobik A now have to read it as one type of car wish they would just put protocalls,they are logging what ever they can get their hands on but not 2 much beta testing????

[sunlocksmith]

how can you asure that the i have the x100 and have not been able to read any pincode trye on durango o7 and jeep 08 nothing, i just go my sbb v37.01 1024 token dont know if i should risk anything rigth now on crysler fobick ,what up with ray ray do you know a

[ray-ray]

I am in the middle of a build for a Las Vegas locksmith show 5-3-2013 "just cars".
the cars that I tested have all pass the test reason for the tread. Soon more member will be trying
out ck100. Try out the pin read function and report your findings.

[hauwkee]

About to get one since i still no soldering skill so i m an OBD key guy pretty lame
compare to most member n even inventor ray-ray
so like to contribute to our community
like to try one a report since i got a bench of cheap dealer friend where i can try stuff
since they cheap if some burn or no go it s ok it s free of charge lol
obd china/ alex is Best Call for that really don t want the one with 5 token lol
thks

[ray-ray]

Obdii-diag sold me very good unit and many of my friends. It's funny how every day one calls me to report how they programs
a new 2012 or 2013 cars different makes.
Newest thing is 2012 dodge avenger proxy key "NO PIN CODE" needed just program in and keyless at same time.(3x it's happen all 2012)

In a few months ilco/silca should put out new software at
that time we will find out if any new version will follow.

[sunlocksmith]

so ray ray how manny token do your you come with
an how much is the just car show i wanna come there

[ray-ray]

Token base 1025
just cars $125.00 2days hands on class cars only.
its is at the speedway, class are going on in front of a car.
if you don't like that class walk over to next or the one after that.
so your not trap indoors and you learn what you fell best for you.
picking h.s. or car opening,door paneling,sight read motorcycle and so on.

[hauwkee]

i like to join the course i got the flyer at Clark security
i got one lishi hu92 and i suck i got some locks from china can pick it some time but i need to see it in front of me then can relate
lol
And i like to meet PPL who love make car key like Me.

[sunlocksmith]

using ck100 and x100 ,today i try to do a mitsubushit sorry mean mitsubishit:deal:(is just how i feel about this cars they got so many diferent key and sofware for mitsubishi lanser 08 usa model fail to conect 2 times so is dont do it
im getting tired of all this cars can do no code for i been doing car for 7 year and and good at it but all this tools so expense then i got this guys around my area making car key for 90.00 men this is no good new is hard to feed the family,but with the bless of the loard im still making a leaving to tansk good im able to this .

[dam495]

ck100 is a expensive clone. but is this work, better than old sbb, older sbb was good but not 100% , but how is the ck100 is working 90% ? where can i buy a good device, and can i add ecu , dash and imo, using ck100? (opel,fiat,ford,vw) at least for this brands; other question what is x-100 , clone of tcode pro:? is it work 80% , if work we can buy both, thanks

[912secured]

I read a fobik B, 2 fobiks in with 37.01 it worked fine.

[sunlocksmith]

can you be specific you read the pin code is your machine still working
??// give some more info.

[ray-ray]

Ok sbb clone last version was 33.01 it took 2yrs for them to develop ck100. So the
ck100 is your newest version sbb which is version 37.00. The time to buy is now price
cost is almost the same amount as a single upgrade. If you wait for the price to drop
which it will but your ck100 will be missing chip and won't do as much. If you need
to buy check the thread a link was posted. Soon there will be more clones of the clone
with fake version and plug connected that aren't connected. I hope people take the leap
now and end up with good product then later and complain on its failure.

[ray-ray]

Mitz. "Can" with remotehead key has always been a problem. The car wants to program the remote section first.
the RHK has a integrate chip which handles two rf signal (keyless & immo). Your basic key has a wedge chip and
will program but after 5 or 6 try. Don't lower your price, just be a professional and stay confindate. People will
fill at ease with your work. Hope it helps

[hauwkee]

yes i m about to order mine any day before getting clone clone of clone
look good enough for me and i believe in high price because i stand behind my work
if i break something i pay for it so don t do car Lock out for $30 and cracked windshield happened 2 me twice pay $100 for new one so Rather take $ to start with

[sunlocksmith]

yes but im taking about the sbb ck100,x100,t300 can't not do the mitsubishi lanser 08 ,i just find out that tko has a adacter for mitsubishi

[reks13]

X100+ can add key to lancer with last update 100%

[sunlocksmith]

did you tested dong tell me it will i have lastes update on x 100 and doesent work it said communication fails if the x100 is copyb of ad100 the it will need a dongle to acomondate te communication im not saying that the software is no there i but is need a dongle
same a sbb and ck-100 there is a dongle for mitsubishi

[gwee]

hi, can this do suzuki swift 2011 model push start? all key lost?

[912secured]

First clone died reading fobik, second batch ok so fare and both chips u3,u4 not patched as much. Only use when others do not. I think they tried to hide serial on first rig,but ilco could still get serial. Ray is right your getting 4 thousand of updates from last clone for 600.

[dam495]

can i add a key in a new fiesta 2013 and new civic 2013 and 2013 new sonic,cruze,spin,onix,blazer. sbb v37.01 can do it , is it possible;//

[ray-ray]

Ford 80bit yes
toyota "g" yes
Chrysler keyless go yes
are you only working on 2013 ? What wrong with these hacker, why so slow?
next month will be the start 2014 in car years and no new stuff yet, what am I going to do?
I going to have to work backwards to make money on 2012 and under cars. By the way the ratio
is great working on 1996-2012 then just 2013

[dam495]

what is new is expensive how much you charge for a key honda 06-12 in my country when the client lost all his keys, we will earn money like 600usd , effi , sbb33.01 and mvp are okay with this car,about new models will be more expensive like 1100 usd at least, so we don't need to worry about a few brands until 2012 because sbb 33.01 effi 114 modules and mvp 9.99 can solve almost 80/100, but after 2013,2014 .... 2020 we are needing more option, because new cars , new systems, if we are not ready ,simple when the cliente lost the key,no money for us, money for dealer, .we need to be ready to earn money and be the best, thansk by your information i am gonna buy one , i found 1 sbb 37.01 the chinese want 650usd, so where can i buy a good one ? where you bought ?

[ray-ray]

Good clone you should be happy $ . I buy from http://www.obdii-diag.com/ck100-key-programmer-p-177.html

[hauwkee]

which it was $600 for honda which country are u from?
here u tell customer 200 they hang up the phone on u lol
Also the dealer lower their price on car keys i think they need owner to come check in because they can sell more stuff on longer run .
So i just need to do keys that no one else does and i be good i guess
by the way mine on the way tks alex

[Jeanhdo]

what is new is expensive how much you charge for a key honda 06-12 in my country when the client lost all his keys, we will earn money like 600usd , effi , sbb33.01 and mvp are okay with this car,about new models will be more expensive like 1100 usd at least, so we don't need to worry about a few brands until 2012 because sbb 33.01 effi 114 modules and mvp 9.99 can solve almost 80/100, but after 2013,2014 .... 2020 we are needing more option, because new cars , new systems, if we are not ready ,simple when the cliente lost the key,no money for us, money for dealer, .we need to be ready to earn money and be the best, thansk by your information i am gonna buy one , i found 1 sbb 37.01 the chinese want 650usd, so where can i buy a good one ? where you bought ?

If you're getting charged 600usd (1200 Dollars) keys to Honda in Brazil!!
Buy a SBB Original!!
You'll be a millionaire!
kkkkkkkkkkkkk

[Automat]

[QUOTE=ray-ray;1954073]Good clone you should be happy $ . I buy from

Hey Ray, what's up with this? Is it just a glitch they can't get rid of?


When using if it fails to adapte key, then disconnected OBD16 adapter and car connection, after 10 seconds connect again, otherwise vehicle immo system may damaged, CK-100 locked.

[dam495]

i am not rich , but my price is 600 usd really, if client doesn't wanna pay me , he will pay another friend of my because in my city the price is 600 uds, my city has 5 locksmith , so the price is deal among us, and you know well , we don't do key to honda civic every day, so when it's show up we need to take our chance and make money because we don't know when will happen again , and you know how much we pay for equipment like , tc mega3,remap 3, obd map., rasther. and you know how much is a new ecu, dash , and imo here , so if you wanna charge 150 uds go ahead, and i don't need a original sbb ,

[912secured]

Ray thats why eeprom on mits worked 100 percent, but programming never wanted to work. I hated mits/can. We figured how to keep the sbb pre 28 upto 33's updated. Hope the clones just want a new flash and not hidden their own protection to keep the flash in it from being updated (doubt they do not want stuck with 100's of non updateable clones. They blocked ilco to the best I see from getting the original unit number. Ray is right the original sbb had all chips, almost 100 percent clone. Just one clone is the price of the ford update.

[hauwkee]

i m waiting on my ck100 will try play with it a used car dealer lots and report

[obdiidiag1986]

Anyboday tested ck100 on 2009 nissan rogue (smart key ) ? thanks

[hauwkee]

i am not rich , but my price is 600 usd really, if client doesn't wanna pay me , he will pay another friend of my because in my city the price is 600 uds, my city has 5 locksmith , so the price is deal among us, and you know well , we don't do key to honda civic every day, so when it's show up we need to take our chance and make money because we don't know when will happen again , and you know how much we pay for equipment like , tc mega3,remap 3, obd map., rasther. and you know how much is a new ecu, dash , and imo here , so if you wanna charge 150 uds go ahead, and i don't need a original sbb ,
I like this kind of alliance that a fair way to do business and everyone make $ not like here where its going Krazy low
guys make key metal for $50 -60 and 120 Toyota flash and key
If you guys hiring or someone go retired i m coming to you district lol

[hauwkee]

my first job CK100
program ford fusion 2012 hybrid no problem
tomorrow will try Honda 2002 and chrysler type 2 like ray said it s working

[hauwkee]

try some more ford all good waiting for more testing

[hauwkee]

nissan quest 2004 ok

[hauwkee]

Honda Accord 2001
sorry only old model just wanna try n report

[siyadk]

I wonder whether it requires pincode for type 2 chrysler. Is it able to read pincode from skim

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[ray-ray]

If the original TKO or SBB can't do it ,why will the ck100 ?

[siyadk]

yep...just got a bit ambitious!!!

[lwood]

will the CK-100 program keys after the ECU was replaced?? for honda 2009 up and toyota 2009 up??

[ray-ray]

No on the Honda because vin# is mismatch (maxidas ds708) will fix that. Ck100 is a key programer not a diagnostic scan tool.
Yes on the toyota, need to jump obd2 data port 4 & 13 for 30min. That will marry the immo. To the ECU , follow that with the ck100.

[keysmith]

"ECU NOT FOUND" 2006 Sebring Convertible, had 12+V could not program.

D.

[camelgd]

If it wasn't a convertible I would say it might be a Mitsubishi.

[ray-ray]

AD manual say type 2 with green for that Sebring. You could try as a pt cruiser or ram pick up as it users the same protocol. As long as the protocol is the same try.

[RMCtech]

I have a question for owners of CK100

This tool can program Renault Key cards without pin code, or extract pin codes from Renault ?

In others words, it can do the same as the Renault True Code or AVDI ?

Thanks

[hauwkee]

dodge ram 2005 no communication ecu disconnected

[Jeanhdo]

Renault pin code do not read.

[Jeanhdo]

I have a question for owners of CK100

This tool can program Renault Key cards without pin code, or extract pin codes from Renault ?

In others words, it can do the same as the Renault True Code or AVDI ?

Thanks
Renault pin code do not read.
It has the same functions of Sbb v33.01;

[camelgd]

Anybody tried ck-100 on Pats 3 (can 3). Pats 3 is the big hole in my programming coverage (for my area). My Sbb 33.02 does not do pats 3. T-300 no go also.

[912secured]

pats 3 obd2 pin 4 and 10 need to be shorted out in the back sometimes with tcode/mvp old then try differnet protocalls. The legit tko read protocalls and read for how many keys are programmed in.

[ray-ray]

New fake version is being sold as 39.00 same as version 37.00 no difference. Was done so more unit can be sold.

[mezmerized02]

Ray Ray, are you saying that you have solved the problem of the SBB not communicating with the Chrysler Type 2? I always assumed that it was a different cable that wasn't included with the Chinese version of the tool... We have several SBB's that I would love to have working with Chrysler and even better the GM Type 1... All of the SBB's are currently working with the CAN Chryslers but cant seem to get any of them that will work with the Type 1 and 2

[Automat]

New fake version is being sold as 39.00 same as version 37.00 no difference. Was done so more unit can be sold.

They always try to do that, but does it still work?

[ray-ray]

Inside the sbb and ck100 are switches that work just like the dongles. Does switchs are not working correctly ( chrysler type 1&2 and gm basic also Pacifica ). Or anything that works off the green dongle off the AD pro.

[mezmerized02]

So the parts that are installed are incorrect? Or they just are not wired to function properly?

[Automat]

I think that to be true, I can't imagine the correct software not being in the unit. Doesn't the original silca update contain all listed vehicles when the Chinese factories copy it?

[mezmerized02]

So is there some type of internal changes we could make to the Chinese copy to make it function with the green dongle ad cars?

It would be nice to have that functioning on the copy. Can't express how much help that would be.

[ray-ray]

The switches our on a motherboard that connect to the pcb board if you had oem TKO , just switch them out.
if all is working correctly then the switch is misplace. If they do the same thing then the pcb board is wired incorrectly.
that is how to figure it out, I just don't have a TKO ginny peg .

[hauwkee]

for type 2 Well i m using spanish MVP with red dongle
type 2 dodge neon
caravan pacifica key n key remote
no problem
i program subaru 2006 outback with ck 100 no problem

i m poor locksmith i m using few clone to get the job done sorry original maker
Question why some time u cannot read BCM by obd with all machine but can log to key programming mode just for reference
i guess it s 2 different protocall
Also last week got my fist serious automotive locksmith job someone stole 1 car and all keys for all cars in a used car dealer lot
i did 21 cars for 26 and Benz
they had 4 bmw 3 EWS 1 Cas smart key
Dealer charge that with discount $45 for ews key
$146 for cas smart key
how can we compete it s a 5 business day.
how much cost smart key BMW blank virgin to be program ?
there is no leverage with BMW for locksmith only salvage and few customer on the go
picking HU92 getting easier n easier for me learning curve lishi i love it
read EWS by DK member in my town get it done in same day or morning

[foxtec800]

Is this tool any good for uk market?
app list mainly shows US vehicles

[mezmerized02]

One of the Chinese manufacturers makes a completely buttonless shell for BMW CAS that you can slide the plastic BMW emergency key with the chip in it inside the empty housing and program to cas module cars.

You will save a lot of money going that way for cas keys. Still hard to beat dealer prices on BMW. Just hope it's at used car dealer or an auction who BMW will decline to make keys for :)

[912secured]

They emergency one is 9 bucks. 32 for the remote one?

[hauwkee]

where can u buy those emergency blade and key

[reks13]

Tried program tiida smart key ,not work. Old sbb v 33 made it

[912secured]

36.8 for remote key and 6.7 pmed so people think Im not selling 60 for circlemini key new not remade used key. Some lexus toyota keys are 300 from dealer. you can buy a lexus you should not call me a thief for keeping in stock the expensive keys. Im going to stop carrying any thing over 125 us when I liquidate my 70 fobik keys and 60 ford remote keys. Im going to keep just 2 of each fobik and 4 fords and stock more of the newer expensive ones just enough for dealers and not for normal people let them pay towing and then dealer price. I do not know how scammers tell people 150 for a job when the keys cost almost that. They get out there can not do the job or rackup the price. i only do jobs time and material,est require a service call.

[hauwkee]

"You will save a lot of money going that way for cas keys. Still hard to beat dealer prices on BMW. Just hope it's at used car dealer or an auction who BMW will decline to make keys for :) "by Mezmerized
in sacramento BMW dealership make key for used car dealer/auction i wish it was the other way around so i could squeeze those cheap A*$ dealer but those day price pulling down down and internet scammer take most of fresh job and older locksmith get the clientel me i m struggling
cause i new operator 2 years in shop
i got investigate by license ppl because i had 20 Craigslist ad without license # local kid said wanted to help me i sorted out no problem but what they do to the scamer nothing why because they have no license no address hard to connect dot that what people at Bureau told me because i had to remind them what about the Low Baller they like we work on it it take time .
i need to close a deal with auto auction Adessa Manheim and won t need to compete with $15 plus 19$ and local People you need to low ball or closed price on the phone it s exhausting.
it s very sad because i love to make keys
i m approaching auto auction in my area hope going to close a deal that will make me happy and busy if not i m going crazy

[elmaalouf]

hello friends did any body tested it on a toyota gtype camry 2012 when all keys are lossed?
thanks

[ray-ray]

Yes it works on "G" toyota.

[hauwkee]

what the procedure for g chip programming it a reset as well

[Automat]

It says in Tcode manual that it is the same as dot key, except for adding keys, must do them one at a time. I haven't done all-keys-lost on G car yet myself.....

[hauwkee]

tomorrow 2013 corolla g chip warmin up my ck-100 hope it does the job pretty confident
and a 2006 nissan smart key never did one can u reprogram used one ?

[elmaalouf]

Yes u can program a used one and pls post results about corolla

[hauwkee]

Yes u can program a used one and pls post results about corolla
i will report as soon as done

[immomaniac]

Yes it works on "G" toyota.

ray-ray, at the moment many tools works on G immo system, but thats only for adding keys

I was wondering whether it would add G key in all key lost situation?

[hauwkee]

today was not an all lost key situation i add key using my CK-100 1 minute process
i also program 2006 chrysler 300 remote key transponder n remote pin by pass

[ray-ray]

How many times must I say. All keys lost on a toyota "G" 16 min reset works! Also price drop these week down to $340.00

[hauwkee]

it was 2013 corolla

[ray-ray]

Does not matter "G" system same as tomato or tomatoes, remote system is different then Camry.

[Fallen]

Pretty sure g key reset by OBD with all keys lost can only be done with Toyotas in the states. Everywhere else in the world it's time to strip out the dash.

[gwee]

Pretty sure g key reset by OBD with all keys lost can only be done with Toyotas in the states. Everywhere else in the world it's time to strip out the dash.

Yes, I don't think ck100 will reset G-immo via OBD for JDM or gulf models. Only AD pro and MVP pro can do that now.

[912secured]

Have backups mvci red board is 89 us programms 2013 hondas , 2014 toyotas us rav4, and sss3 2012 does subarus right 2534toolbox modded resets type 1 and 2 just have to put back in with ad clone. get the right new spanish(does type 2 pin read fobik type 1) 31 and a 33 sbb 33 programs type 13 2013's need remote key. 31 is for when the 33 will not work on older car.
Thats around 400. If one does not work another will.
A x-100 for all those asian cars just try different types until protocall that works 375 (optional)
A new ck-1oo make shure its a 39. its not the real number but works almost 100 percent. price is dropping fast wait a month will be 250 or less. One of the companies that made the sbb clone is gearing up (having workers remove atmel and flash's???) having hundreds of 33's not selling had to do something.

The M8 clone think its ad's way into the asian market if someone reversed everything perfect they would of removed passwords and firmware is alot like original its emulated/asmed for micro inside of nice looking touchpad device(used md5 when first released and every so many lines in the clear. If motivated by money could of added more memory to t300 and ran it on it with card only half the memory on the original ad equipment is only used and that includes the protocalls for cars display etc(have someone else clean it up more to save space and compress it would still work and external dongles could of loaded the cars it was to use just have fimware in the flash and load what you need from memory from the dongle .Look what ilco did and has alot of space left., like the high quality SBB's that were exact v 26.x's the 1000 dollar original clone that worked on chrysler us. Always wondered if made a dongle and changed pin to what us used if it would of worked? Just had other things that worked.

[xinv]

the latest CK-100 V39.02 Auto Key Programmer for $ 451.40 On Sale, you can buy it here CK-100 V39.02 Auto Key Programmer SBB la ?ltima versi?n : (http://www.diagnostico-coche.es/product-131.html)

[gwee]

the latest CK-100 V39.02 Auto Key Programmer for $ 451.40 On Sale, you can buy it here CK-100 V39.02 Auto Key Programmer SBB la ?ltima versi?n : (http://www.diagnostico-coche.es/product-131.html)

Goto alibaba not here:D

You think we are baby? If we want, don't know where to buy?

[Fallen]

Yes, I don't think ck100 will reset G-immo via OBD for JDM or gulf models. Only AD pro and MVP pro can do that now.

Nothing will reset Toyota G key with all keys lost on JDM Toyota by OBD. Not AD100PRO, not AVDI, NOTHING!
Shit job to do but they pay well :)

[ray-ray]

I will try to post a virgin usa model so we can see the difference between dumps. I can see why they would create two different immo and two different firmware. Unless two company contract filling up orders. Please post picture of immo pcb board.

[elmaalouf]

so what can we do? what does we have ti use?

[kdsr123]

CK100 does reset immobilizer on USA Toyota Corolla,Camry, and Sienna. 2011 Sienna, 2010 Corolla. G Blade KEy

[siyadk]

I will try to post a virgin usa model so we can see the difference between dumps. I can see why they would create two different immo and two different firmware. Unless two company contract filling up orders. Please post picture of immo pcb board.
Just think about toyota smart system...Usa can reset immo while other part of the world can't.
I think it is due J2354 law US has

[Atex31]

Good price and reliable to deal with:

CK-100 V39.02 Auto Key Programmer SBB The Latest Generation (http://www.obdtool.co.uk/wholesale/ck-100-auto-key-programmer-sbb-the-latest-generation.html)

[keysmith]

Good price and reliable to deal with:

CK-100 V39.02 Auto Key Programmer SBB The Latest Generation (http://www.obdtool.co.uk/wholesale/ck-100-auto-key-programmer-sbb-the-latest-generation.html)


Are there 2 CK100 models out there, V37.01 and V39.02? Are they the same? What is the difference?

D.

[camelgd]

Wouldn't mind seeing the answer to that myself!

[ray-ray]

Version 39.00 is a fake version made to sell more units.

[hauwkee]

i think chineese seller put a clock in unit so after 6 month it change the version number by it self and boost sales

[Automat]

Price continues to drop......

New Arrival CK 100 CK100 OBD2 Car Key Programmer V37.01SBB the Latest Generation ck100 key programmer-in Auto Key Programmers from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Arrival-CK-100-CK100-OBD2-Car-Key-Programmer-V37-01SBB-the-Latest-Generation-ck100-key/983410443.html)

[whiskeyman]

now saying
V42.08 CK-100

[keysmith]

now saying
V42.08 CK-100



I asked supplier about the V42.08, he was honest and said this is not new, they just changed the version number.

[ray-ray]

Ilco has not release nothing new so what will they copy. Fake now no more tokens but has a clock, tricky and price drop.

[Automat]

A clock? Based on time plugged-in? What's up with that Ray?

[Fallen]

Anybody had this problem before?
Worded ok for about a month then this message pops up and machine locks up.
230827230828

[ray-ray]

Yes that the new clone $228.00 token base style. No more go unit out there stop buying wait for the next upgrade release.

[Automat]

Yes, friend had the same thing happen to him, sorry this happened to you. I guess, message to all, don't press escape twice, unplug and start over??


Anybody had this problem before?
Worded ok for about a month then this message pops up and machine locks up.
230827230828

[whiskeyman]

bloody hell just bought one too

[Automat]

"Press escape twice" = self destruct button. This is getting written on a sticker below the screen on mine. Fallen, what vehicle did this happen on?

[Fallen]

It didn't, I had it plugged into power only.
Did not fail on programming, turned on one day and this came up in the screen.

I did unplug and start again but message came back. Esc twice obviously does nothing.

Worst thing is, I can't remember where I bought it from!

One thing I did notice before it failed was small sparks arcing between the connector and the machine when I plugged it in.

Maybe put cable into unit first, then connect to OBD.

[aassfour]

this happened to my old SBB when i plugged it in power directly. from now i plug nothing in power directly specially those chinese :D

[obdiidiag1986]

For this "Esc twice " problem you need get one Chip for replace .
231196

[Fallen]

For this "Esc twice " problem you need get one Chip for replace .
231196


Thanks, I will have a look and see if I can find one somewhere.

[obdiidiag1986]

You supplier could offer it free . this problems happen on ck100 manufactured on OCTOBER last batch some units.

[Fallen]

I can't remember where I bought it from!

[Automat]

Would like to get one for backup...where?

[ray-ray]

Thanks Alex can you send 3 so I can repair the 2 units I order plus 1 I have to return?

[sunlocksmith]

Does anyone know about the 2013 update on the origal tko thay ad the new nissan 2013 and update for gm chinesse are claiming they update the v37.01 with new software but no proff??????????????????????????????????????/

[Automat]

37.01 is where the CK100 stops, no matter what the sellers claim...............

[aassfour]

Warning
dont plug CK100 into any subaru above 2011 , it killed 1 subaru VX 2012
cost to refix the Car from dealer went up to 2k $

[912secured]

Only use when other clone will not do. Better to lose. X-100 started putting updates out again so for people who do asian and korean and china's autos covers most 2012 and 13's sometimes have to mess with type of car. Guess they seen price dropping to 375 then 350 and Release new soft to buy time untill the x101 comes out.

[hauwkee]

ck-100 ECU not connnected no go
for Mazda 2 2012
Ford Focus 2013
i guess i need sk-800

[gwee]

Just ordered one from uobd2, cancelled after reading all these valuable posts :)

Was wondering why the price dropped so much.

[hauwkee]

Just ordered one from uobd2, cancelled after reading all these valuable posts :)

Was wondering why the price dropped so much.
when i do immo reset for 4d toyota it s takes around 12 -18 minute then ECU disconnected on screen
but car is starting weird i used the orange dongle but lost it some where lol
Customer had another key but forget to tell me about it after reset
i was not able to 2nd program key on manually not sure the right procedure the brake n accelerator one or the open closed doors try it did not work Add second key with CK-100 ok Sbb find
can someone give me the right way to add master key to system after immo reset

[gwee]

when i do immo reset for 4d toyota it s takes around 12 -18 minute then ECU disconnected on screen
but car is starting weird i used the orange dongle but lost it some where lol
Customer had another key but forget to tell me about it after reset
i was not able to 2nd program key on manually not sure the right procedure the brake n accelerator one or the open closed doors try it did not work Add second key with CK-100 ok Sbb find
can someone give me the right way to add master key to system after immo reset

After immo reset, just insert key and turn on off 5 times. :)

New tool will reset 4d immo in few seconds :)

[hauwkee]

i meant customer have master key want to add the remote key
without reset

[hauwkee]

Also if you program only one key and light blinking car start how you remove the light closed the programing with one key
5 time on/off brake 8 times not sure about it
can u give me this procedure sometime customer anoying with this red light in dash lol

[pkeeney]

Just switch on and off five times on most toyota after 02

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[rambit]

Hi people..jus reading up on exploits of the ck 100..saw on greebid that its going for 215 dollars..Search Result: sbb - Greebid-China wholesale OBD2,OBDII scanner (http://www.greebid.com/search/?q=sbb&DirID=...ver) 45.02
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[Atex31]

"Press escape twice" = self destruct button. This is getting written on a sticker below the screen on mine. Fallen, what vehicle did this happen on?



My apprentice has just locked up the CK100 "Press escape twice!), he swears he disconnected it and didn't press the escape key but now it's locked :(



I bought it from Xcar360, they asked for photos which I sent yesterday so just waiting for reply now.

[teerak2uk]

Are these CK100 really any good

[siyadk]

Read this thread and judge urself....

[Atex31]

When it was working it was great.


Should be able to get another chip from the supplier, only had it since October.


I already have 2 SBB doorstops so don't need another.

[ray-ray]

The last batch of clones had that problem. There is a processor on a board that get swap out,plug & play that's the repair. Good supplier would send you the part. It was a good clone when the price was $670.00 and you did not buy it. Now the clone of a clone of a clone is $215.00 still waiting to buy? Pass the job to those who invest to make profit.

[hauwkee]

Clone of a Clone unless the make it better
they should make a version with bootloader
SBB
MVP
X100
But make good we will pay for it
Tks i got my CK earlier

[whiskeyman]

any news if this tool fixed yet

[gwee]

I bought one very recently, tokens is 1024.

[claudio35]

which is the latest version? unlock, no tokens

v99.99? 2014

CK 100 Key Maker Machine No Need PC+No Token+Pin Code Service,CK 100 Auto Key Programmer For Most OBD2 Car,CK100 Latest V99.99-in Auto Key Programmers from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2013-Newest-Generation-CK100-For-Multi-Car-Brands-CK-100-As-Auto-Key-Programmer-Add-New/1342395934.html)

Thanks

[obdiidiag1986]

v99.99 and no tokens version almost clone of clone . be carefully the QUALITY

[eci]

Anyone tried ck100 on a mitsubishi outlander 2007?

[claudio35]

What is the latest stable version? Please

[obdiidiag1986]

V45.02 is last stable version

[danielboom00]

After read all the threat i?m thinking in buy one, i would like to use for program or reprogram used keys when a swap the ecu of some cars in my garage (Us Market), somebody can tell me if it?s possible for this? normally i buy from

CK-100 Auto Key Programmer V45.02 SBB The Latest Generation (http://www.autoobd2.co.uk/wholesale/ck-100-auto-key-programmer-v3701-sbb-the-latest-generation.html)

thanks in advance

[Automat]

Match ECU, I don't think this tool will help......

[claudio35]

tokens, saw this: CK-100 (141300046) NXP Fix Chip with 1024 Tokens (http://www.careucar.com/wholesale/ck-100-141300046-nxp-fix-chip-with-1024-tokens.html?f=p4g2)

[Automat]

Mine finally popped...."press escape twice please" message. I didn't press any buttons, but it won't go away, hoping to get replacement chip from the seller. By the grace of God......LOL

[gwee]

i tried once to add toyota smart key and it was not successful, now it is collecting dust in the drawer :)

[PremierD]

They make good ashtrays ...lol

[cqae]

i tried once to add toyota smart key and it was not successful, now it is collecting dust in the drawer :)

Ive got a drawer like that too, full of clones that dont work but I keep just in case:)

[Kykv]

What about v45.06, anyone have it?
what other tool would be recommended? skp900 from videos looks OK, but some shows that only remote is programmed, but not shown how car is starting with new smartkey.

[Automat]

Mine finally popped...."press escape twice please" message. I didn't press any buttons, but it won't go away, hoping to get replacement chip from the seller. By the grace of God......LOL

Got free replacement chip from my seller, it just plugs in, no soldering, seems to be back to normal now, only tests will tell...thanks Mr Alex.....Most appreciated!!

[viw9419]

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[Atex31]

.........................................

[Automat]

276666
Can we read the chip on these and just keep reflashing the 1024 tokens back on?

It wasn't the token chip, it was a small plug-in board (crappy photo sorry).

[Phase 4 autokey]

V99 waste of money, won't work on a toyota, does works on old ford, GM CAN.

[7936]

can not think they did not fix that one loop yet to keep them from locking up. Sell more units? They worked alot to get it working in the first place. The escape is to keep you from seeing what cars you can program by looking and going out(or escape out of software. Wish you did not ever legitly needed the esc key or would remove. Need to read the image and reflash it when needed, when we mess up or who you lent it to. Ilco must be adding all new security to newest release. Use tango for all mits, just all the bad luck with programmers. better off walking away except when really needs done, or borrow back the pro I sold. X100 work good need to try the 900 on mits friend has one next time. Been slow just doing odd jobs (someone put my bussines name on the side of their truck and is super childish. I had my legit but was using a clone ad, he threw a fit and asked him what he used(would not answer (what good for the scammer is not for the man doing it from 1998). Bad wbc just changd the boads out physical problem with switch. So no chrysler factory needed. He quoted 900 did for service 2 hours and price of unit and old got a new board (never know when youll need it.) They are using necs for replacement of first gen skim the one where only half of the pin goes in the eeprom and other in micro. Dodge and mit are the only non legit or clone units have also vas but can not do keys anyway. Im RAMBLING FOR 105 WITH shipping one job pays for its self.

[gwee]

............................http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/352471-gwee/albums/smileys/276739-tmi.gif

[Phase 4 autokey]

Just did old GM PK3, remote and key Chevy uplander 2005, anyone else having trouble with toyota & V99? I need more cars to test. It still does some models, so I guess $105 usd was worth it.

[starmobile]

Hi,i have CK100 than i bought 1 month ago for $200.00cad work fine on acura rsx 2003,subaru wrx sti 2005 after ecu replace,when i test on other cars i let you know,thanks.

[Phase 4 autokey]

Is yours one of the V99 clones?

[Cesarec]

Hello,

Has someone tried v45.06? Any expirience?

Thanks!

[HeXeN]

Is there specified token chip for specified CK100 version? for example other chip for v45.06 and v46.02?

[donesko]

can this read pin from fiat bsi over obd?

[javyb]

Anyone bought the ck100 from fvdiobd.com

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