Golf G85 basic setting problem

[quinnd]

Hi I though I posted this earlier today, but anyway I cannot get the ABS Mk60 to accept login 40168 to do basic setting on G85.
Have tried various scan tools and VAS5054a but no good.
Attached is the diag report from VAS. Scroll to the bottom... this can't be right

[TECH]

problem with the zip file..

[quinnd]

problem with the zip file..

It opens ok for me via forum?
Opens in XPS doc viewer

[quinnd]

screen shot

[teuton]

this problem looks like due to the abs controller. can you access diagnostics in the controller , do yoy have any faults, how is thr controller status in the gateway module?

[quinnd]

Yes have all diagnostics with ABS/ESP no problems. Have not checked CAN controller. Does MK4 have that? I thought it is too old?
The only faults are in SRS for drivers airbag removed and G85 basic setting not performed in ABS no engine codes

[genius76]

Yes have all diagnostics with ABS/ESP no problems. Have not checked CAN controller. Does MK4 have that? I thought it is too old?
The only faults are in SRS for drivers airbag removed and G85 basic setting not performed in ABS no engine codes

Beware cars fitted with Teves Mk60 ABS/ESP systems - Honest John - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/caradvice/honestjohn/7844231/Beware-cars-fitted-with-Teves-Mk60-ABSESP-systems-Honest-John.html)

[quinnd]

Maybe there is a similar method to this?
When attempting to activate the Daytime Running Lights (DRL) function during the PDI
inspection, the scan tool may read out ERROR ARGUMENT 1 using VAS 5051/52 Brand V12.83.
To bypass this error, log into vehicle self diagnosis and follow the steps below:
From the main screen select Vehicle Self Diagnosis
Select On Board Diagnostic (OBD)
Select 09 ? Electronic central electronics
Select 007 - Coding (Service1A)
Highlight byte index 0 it should read Hex value 22
On the keypad select Hex button and press 23
Press the Q button to enter and press the forward arrow key.
The screen will ask to definitely perform coding?
Select yes and the DRL?s will be active.

[quinnd]

Beware cars fitted with Teves Mk60 ABS/ESP systems - Honest John - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/caradvice/honestjohn/7844231/Beware-cars-fitted-with-Teves-Mk60-ABSESP-systems-Honest-John.html)

Wow that's a pretty damning report!

[genius76]

Wow that's a pretty damning report!

Yes, yes I have said that golf 4 HAVE esp

[quinnd]

As diagnostics are all ok, is it possible to reprogram the esp/abs to repair this type of fault? Only the traction light is on on dash. ABS light goes out ok.

[quinnd]

The other fault this thing has showing is G85 mechanical fault, although signal from G85 is 0.0 degrees when steering wheel is straight, and I have good readings when turned in either direction. I attached screen shot so you can see. Will this prevent login from working? I cannot clear these faults

[genius76]

sorry FROM INFERIOR SITE

ANOTHER GUYS WRITE THAT THEN ANY MECHANICAL FAULTY U CANNOT DO BASIC SETTINGS

I've already talked enough about the system ABS / ESP and the sensor G85. In continuation of the topic I want to talk about how to adapt the steering angle sensor wheel. The thing is that, despite the simplicity of the sensor device, it is actually a very "smart" and accurate instrument. And so, in some situations, needs training (adaptation). It usually happens when:
*- Replacing the ABS
*- Replace sensor G85
The fact that the sensor needs to adapt ABS ECU tells himself, writing in the diagnosis of something like:
**********00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
**********005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
*****So procedure adapt the sensor on the cars of VAG (volkswagen, audi, seat, scoda):

****Using the software, go to VAG COM unit [03 - Brake Electronics]
Wheel set to straight.
1. Press [Coding-II - 11]
2. In line appears recruit 40,168, [Do it!]
3. We go to the [Basic Settings - 04]
4. Group selects channel 060, [Go!]
5. Then click on the button [ON / OFF / Next] until the display Basic setting: ON
6. Press SAVE, Done, Go Back
7. Programmu8 close. Begin to move, pass about 200 meters in a straight line.
9. Stop up turning the wheel to the left, then all the way to the right.
Procedure is complete.

*****In case if you do not have a scanner and software VAG COM, in some cases (only on new cars), can help the following procedure:
1. Put the car on a level road, where no one can stop the procedure of adaptation.
2. Turn on the ignition.
3. Set up a car.
4. Dislocating steering wheel to the left, then all the way to the right.
5. Putting the wheel straight.
6. We drove about 20-30 meters.
7. ESP malfunction indicator goes off.
*****Once the car WV T5 second method helped me. At what other cars this procedure works, I will not say, because I find it easier to use the scanner :)

Program site VAG COM is a video on the procedure for programming the new unit ABS. Including the process of adaptation of the angle of the steering wheel (G85).

[genius76]

ANOTHER INFER. :)

I resolved this issue. I took the sensor apart and rewound the ribbon cable in there so it was a bit loose. I also counted the number of turns in each direction until the sensor exhibited some resistance. I then split that number split that number in 2. In the sensor window in the top right I had a yellow dot.

Maybe just coincidence but the sensor also had a yellow paint mark in lower right. Put all back together and no longer received the 003- mechanical failure message.

Took her for a test spin and performed the calibration and all is well now.

I surmise through all in the in/out of the heater core repair I took the sensor out of center. Further research seems to concur. Either way, I am happy I don't have to spend more

[quinnd]

Thanks Genius. Fault says mechanical fault but signal is 0 degrees in center and works properly either left and right and no reported CAN bus issues, so I dont know if because of that code whether it will prevent login from being successful

[genius76]

WHAT ERROR U GET WHEN PUTED 40168

[Ashraf6119]

If I remember well the Steering Angle Sensor Basic Setting for MK60 is done from Steering Assist Module 44............and not from ABS Module 03..........


Please have a look in here............

VW Golf (1K) Steering Assist - Ross-Tech Wiki (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_%281K%29_Steering_Assist#Basic_Setting)

[quinnd]

Thanks but this car does not have electric steering, so no steering assistance module. If you look at the screen shot, VAS5054a says error_argument_1
and ABS module not responding to login or something like that. With Diagun it just says "login failed" under guided functions with vas login is automatic or under self diagnostic you can enter code manually but it still fails. Could it be a steering wheel module coding issue? It is coded as "8" do you have info relating to coding numbers of this module? Rosstech does not have info
This Golf is 1J (not 1K) 2002 mk4.

[quinnd]

FIXED!!
Asked other garage for old steering wheel module. Confirmed same part number but fitted original one anyway. Aligned yellow dot etc ....
VAS5054a -> self diagnosis -> Brake Electronics -> Access authorisation -> codingII -> enter 40168 -> "coding successful" , back to diagnostic menu -> basic setting -> 60 -> don't hit activate, just exit again. DONE! Is now off getting alignment

I suspect when the other garage did brakes, the customer drove home and hit a curb, then continued driving with crooked steering wheel. This brought up mechanical fault. They fitted second hand steering wheel module, then had basic setting error. I cannot explain why the procedure would not work with the second hand part but did with the original. Did not need new ECU as VAS5054a instructed. I hope this helps others

[genius76]

hmm u not stated that swapped module
otherwise wi will se diferens 1c0907379M 1c0907379C
THAT CANOT BE DONE BASICS MATE

[quinnd]

hmm u not stated that swapped module
otherwise wi will se diferens 1c0907379M 1c0907379C
THAT CANOT BE DONE BASICS MATE

No it was exactly the same part number. I did not fit that, the other garage did. But didn't tell me that either until short time ago
My part number was 1J0959654AP, both were the same

[quinnd]

BTW login still unsuccessful with Diagun using 40168