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techterr
27th July, 2015, 02:49 PM
Oooops...... found another one, but have not contact them.....
http://www.bluemoon-lcd.com/english/ProductShow.asp?id=21&classid=Ets009

Regards,
Finn

I think that might just work... I will send them an email and see what it takes to get one or two..
Thanks,
Tim

update, sent them an email... it came back as saying the domain doesn't exist..... oh well...

estate
27th July, 2015, 07:31 PM
what about this one Tim?
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/710
http://www.sainsmart.com/sainsmart-12864-128x64-graphic-blue-lcd-display-module-backlight-for-arduino-avr.html

tkumonryu
28th July, 2015, 12:57 AM
I think that might just work... I will send them an email and see what it takes to get one or two..
Thanks,
Tim

Tim,
Found another one
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-STN-blue-or-STN-yellow-green-12864-COB-LCD-display-module-size-78x70mm/1844745819.html

view area 68 x 44 +-0.2, but the only problem selling at 5pcs/lot
regards,
Finn

tkumonryu
28th July, 2015, 06:45 AM
Slowly getting better using this machine.
So far cutting code to key is good, works most of the time.
Decode, then cut nearest or direct copy almost waste of time and blanks, as most of the time the original key is worn.
Found out by using along with Instacode, vernier and do original key depth measurement, then find the bittings for code (if no code found, some bit is wrong)
Double check cut image, insert code to cut and most of the time works great. A little time consuming but success rate is higher.
Machine decode sometimes leads to wrong code

techterr
28th July, 2015, 07:01 AM
what about this one Tim?
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/710
http://www.sainsmart.com/sainsmart-12864-128x64-graphic-blue-lcd-display-module-backlight-for-arduino-avr.html

These are both too big...
Thanks though..
Tim

techterr
28th July, 2015, 07:02 AM
Tim,
Found another one
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-STN-blue-or-STN-yellow-green-12864-COB-LCD-display-module-size-78x70mm/1844745819.html

view area 68 x 44 +-0.2, but the only problem selling at 5pcs/lot
regards,
Finn
I think these might work... Does anyone here need an extra?????
Tim

estate
28th July, 2015, 09:17 AM
Slowly getting better using this machine.
So far cutting code to key is good, works most of the time.
Decode, then cut nearest or direct copy almost waste of time and blanks, as most of the time the original key is worn.
Found out by using along with Instacode, vernier and do original key depth measurement, then find the bittings for code (if no code found, some bit is wrong)
Double check cut image, insert code to cut and most of the time works great. A little time consuming but success rate is higher.
Machine decode sometimes leads to wrong code

Decoding on mine is bad too

tkumonryu
30th July, 2015, 08:33 AM
I think these might work... Does anyone here need an extra?????
Tim

Tim, Just an update for you, did get a reply from the seller and they said they are willing to do 1 or 2pcs instead of 5pcs/lot.
and quoted me USD$12.06/pc and USD$8 if ship by Singapore post.
The person correspond to is Lan Lin via the contact button on the page.
regards,
Finn

techterr
30th July, 2015, 02:44 PM
Tim, Just an update for you, did get a reply from the seller and they said they are willing to do 1 or 2pcs instead of 5pcs/lot.
and quoted me USD$12.06/pc and USD$8 if ship by Singapore post.
The person correspond to is Lan Lin via the contact button on the page.
regards,
Finn

Awesome... I will contact her now...
Thank you...
Tim

estate
20th August, 2015, 10:58 PM
Problem cutting TOY47 for a 2002 Yaris..... Code is 07758 butting 134323422 ( primary ) 134323424 ( secondary ) firstly what is the difference between Primary and Secondary? And the issue is that my X6 Cuts the end of the key off by 1mm! I also have to alter it to #5 otherwise it won't sit in the vice. Anyone got a solution? Will this matter to the key? Looks terrible though. Anyway to mod the file?

Recoder
21st August, 2015, 12:24 PM
I run this up in I.C and F8 show cut key .
Looks like it Snubs off the nose of key poss by 1mm ?????.

Also primary and secondry could be Valet and Operating Key ie one wont work Glove box etc but will start etc
hth.

techterr
23rd August, 2015, 05:56 AM
Sooooo, i bought a new display.. in fact two of them... and they do the same as the old screen... which means the controller must be bad... bought mine from HKlock... and there tech support is an email saying to clean contacts... I am so tired of chinese junk and bull~~~~.. I don't expect a lifetime warranty, but maybe a year or two... Just a heads up to anyone looking at buying one of these... if it breaks, you are screwed...
take care,
Tim

estate
23rd August, 2015, 07:29 PM
hmmmmmmm........... sorry to hear you're having problems Tim :( But I bought mine broken and fixed it, so it's worked out well for me. I paid about 1/4 of the cost of a new one and this week alone has cut about 20 keys, all of them no keys, so has earned me enough to jump up to the next step which i think is probably a Condor, but i'm seriously considering just buying the newer version of the x6 with a shield.

autoTkey
10th September, 2015, 12:20 PM
Has any of you guys got the HU64 clamp for Mercedes? I'm a bit puzzled how to set the machine to work with it. I would appreciate if someone can make a video decoding and cutting the key from beginning, because I failed in finding one on the net.

autoTkey
10th September, 2015, 03:45 PM
With a little help from a friend I got it figured. The tool needs to be in it's socket as high as possible. Not just to the mark on the side. Otherwise the tool(both probe and cutter) bumps with the HU64 clamp or with the key blank.

estate
11th September, 2015, 10:57 AM
Not bad are they Gwee ;)

autochei
17th September, 2015, 04:29 PM
knows someone where can i buy adaptor for mercedes ? from my supllier it s very expansive 100 euro

autochei
18th September, 2015, 10:46 AM
i found from honroe.com

streetlegal
19th September, 2015, 06:41 PM
when reading or decoding always clean the key properly or you will end up with miss-reads (allways read 3 times before you cut the new key)

if you get the problem of it not reading correctly and cutting in a wierd way allways check the probe is not bent

autoTkey
3rd November, 2015, 09:49 AM
I've heard rumors about this machine having a dedicated PC software which can control it for cutting keys(that is NOT the software that updates it). Has anyone bumped in to it and could you share it?

Bmkeys
3rd November, 2015, 11:42 AM
It's called codemaster and is available on the miracle website.

http://www.redt-miracle-key.com/miracle-update.html

thebigk
3rd November, 2015, 05:20 PM
Is the KCM 7, the newer version of this....from onylda?

obeids
9th November, 2015, 07:37 AM
Hi there.
The software is their own called KEYMASTER. I have a copy and will try t upload it. Problem is the USB drivers as strange enought it's not supplied on the CD.

ziko
21st November, 2015, 12:17 PM
As I read previous posts X6/V8 machine not good for decode key code, but good to cut blank key by code,right?
I need mostly to cut key by code, when ori key lost
Tnx

autoTkey
21st November, 2015, 02:02 PM
It's working good for decoding too. If you calibrate it.

autochei
21st November, 2015, 04:59 PM
for everytime when i cutting it s need to be calibrate ?

last time i cut a key for toyota and machine cut very bad

estate
21st November, 2015, 09:50 PM
I calibrate mine every time i turn it on. Takes seconds.

zyjekrc51
22nd November, 2015, 01:03 AM
for everytime when i cutting it s need to be calibrate ?

last time i cut a key for toyota and machine cut very bad

Mine works not so bad, just calibrate it when switched on, maybe Your decoding probe isbent - then randomly - depending of spindle position when stopped - You will get different offset from correct position - check Your probe for error with dial gauge

noam
1st December, 2015, 09:30 PM
How did you got its connected to the computer under what machine did you choose in instaCode I tried everything it doesn't let me.


X6 cutting machine

autoTkey
2nd December, 2015, 08:16 AM
Read the last two pages of this thread .. but before that read the rules and go introduce yourself. :ridinghorse:

Automat
2nd December, 2015, 03:53 PM
Read the last two pages of this thread .. but before that read the rules and go introduce yourself. :ridinghorse:

Where do you see an X6 connection to instacode my friend?

autoTkey
2nd December, 2015, 04:28 PM
I didn't say anything about Instacode. It is not supported obviously.
But there's still a way to connect and control it by PC and it is discussed exactly in the start of this page...

u.s
22nd February, 2016, 03:01 PM
looking for a cheap cut to code machine to do the occasional key.
choice between the x6/v8 or the miracle a7/san peng a7.
not much information on the later.
anyone used both and which would you recommend?

thanks

autoTkey
22nd February, 2016, 05:16 PM
Definitely the X6 machine. San peng a7 has a lot more BUGs. I didn't use the later, though. I once was considering getting it but my supplier recommended me not to!

techterr
16th March, 2016, 03:06 AM
It's called codemaster and is available on the miracle website.

http://www.redt-miracle-key.com/miracle-update.html

Just a note to everyone... I had issues with the screen on my X6, bought a couple of screens from ali express and also got one from HK lock, they all did the same thing... The HK lock sales rep, Amy ( who sold me the X6) sent me the download link to this software... The machine works awesome when the computer, or the PDA is running it... and now the screen has started working fine... My apprentice is loving it...
Take care,
Tim

u.s
23rd March, 2016, 11:40 AM
is there any actual difference between the v8 and x6 machines?

autoTkey
23rd March, 2016, 03:20 PM
That's the name of the machine X6/V8 - they are not two different machines. But there are different versions of the machine.

u.s
23rd March, 2016, 04:22 PM
some machines when powered on will show v8 on the boot screen and the others will show x6.

i think i read somewhere that v8 is simple version and x6 is full version ?
also think i read somewhere that one is for the china market ?

paul_12345
23rd March, 2016, 04:25 PM
some machines when powered on will show v8 on the boot screen and the others will show x6.

i think i read somewhere that v8 is simple version and x6 is full version ?
also think i read somewhere that one is for the china market ?

wasn't it chinese - english versions originally??

u.s
30th March, 2016, 12:00 PM
Key Machine arrived.
Doesn't show x6 or v8 logo at all, instead it shows 'Automobile Key Cutting System'.
Firmware version is 6.25
Has an on/off rocker switch on the side of the case to use the internal battery.
Works fine with the software posted earlier using laptop.
However, didn't work with PDA, couldn't find the machine. Although the machine shows the Bluetooth logo on the screen the supplier says it is not supported yet.
Decoded and cut a Toyota key and worked fine

366675366674

H.Wessel
30th March, 2016, 03:44 PM
I have one X6 with firmware 1.01, anybody know the factory to update firmware to 6.25 version???

autochei
30th March, 2016, 03:58 PM
me too i have 6.01

H.Wessel
30th March, 2016, 10:41 PM
Inside X6 there is a SD card but I don't know if it has firmware:

366822

autochei
31st March, 2016, 08:32 AM
i have a problem with x6 with peugeot i decode key but when i cut x6 cut total wrong

autoTkey
31st March, 2016, 09:05 AM
Make sure it is well calibrated. Try decoding manually and input the code by hand.

Faraday
30th April, 2016, 05:57 PM
this machine is on the market from some time do you recommend it?

H.Wessel
30th April, 2016, 06:47 PM
this machine is on the market from some time do you recommend it?

If you cut 5 keys/week yes, it's not bad, if you cut 10 keys/day buy another like condor...

Fernandowap
1st May, 2016, 09:18 PM
I'm doing research to buy an automatic machine for cutting keys.


v8 x6
Miracle A7
Sec E9 ($ 2,000)


Average price of $ 1,500

Fernandowap
3rd May, 2016, 02:46 AM
good evening


Now there is a new version of x6 and v8 key cutting.


I just saw the aliexpress.


(((CKM 7)))

diagprog7
4th May, 2016, 01:19 AM
In China, Condor sales are the best, accounting for 80% of the market!

Fernandowap
4th May, 2016, 04:34 AM
good evening


Yes Condor xc 007 mini is the best, however the value is too high for those who make 3 to 5 keys per week.


I have only $ 1,500, I'm thinking about x6 and miracle a7 which of the two has a little more quality? I know they are Chinese.


Thank you

autoTkey
4th May, 2016, 08:47 AM
The original Miracle are Korean, not Chinese. If you're going for a clone - X6 is the best option.

diagprog7
4th May, 2016, 08:57 AM
OK ,WE MAKE GOOD MINI MINI Condor xc--006,sell price 1400usd. good idea!

make 3 to 5 keys per week.

Johnner
4th May, 2016, 09:00 AM
Not here you don't mate !!

ekvas
22nd May, 2016, 09:32 PM
Key Machine arrived.
Doesn't show x6 or v8 logo at all, instead it shows 'Automobile Key Cutting System'.
Firmware version is 6.25
Has an on/off rocker switch on the side of the case to use the internal battery.
Works fine with the software posted earlier using laptop.
However, didn't work with PDA, couldn't find the machine. Although the machine shows the Bluetooth logo on the screen the supplier says it is not supported yet.
Decoded and cut a Toyota key and worked fine

366675366674


i have same Machine.

ok WORK , i today cut key fiat stilo with mechanik code, and Decode and cut opel meriva.

worked ok

Regards

maaxxyy
5th November, 2016, 02:24 PM
Hi guys does anyone have a link to the pc software for V8/X6? cant find it anywhere thanks

Fernandowap
7th November, 2016, 01:15 AM
good evening


I bought a domestic manufacturing machine here from Brazil, Lots of doubts about maintaining Chinese machine.


I bought a machine with name (Mini triple x) the Brazilian company Roudrill.


Value was higher, but it has warranty and support.

vsanyi
7th November, 2016, 08:31 AM
Please link.

paul_12345
7th November, 2016, 10:05 AM
good evening


I bought a domestic manufacturing machine here from Brazil, Lots of doubts about maintaining Chinese machine.


I bought a machine with name (Mini triple x) the Brazilian company Roudrill.


Value was higher, but it has warranty and support.

Some pretty good tools from South America shame they dont seem interested in making them for the rest of the world.

Weasel3
7th November, 2016, 10:45 AM
http://www.distakdistribuidora.com/p-8356605-MAQUINA-CORTE-CHAVE - I think the price is between 4600 - 5500USD at the moment.


http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-706541073-maquina-para-corte-de-chave-roudrill-triplo-x-mini-_JM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmMaylPFQaE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y69a9RJfQko


Maybe some Portuguese company could deal with it, here in Europe.

And compete with the expensive EU machines. And the CN clones. And off course the South Koreans too.

autochei
5th January, 2017, 06:16 PM
hy all
i have a problem with x6/v8 when starting the cut a key and then no more power and machine blocked can t cut the key

someone have this problem?

doctore
5th January, 2017, 06:28 PM
I do not have this mashine but see inside opened and see if you're not burned out motor or if you have bearings on the shaft may have collapsed

autochei
5th January, 2017, 06:42 PM
motor it s ok started to cut but when cut the key very hard and stoped loke don t have power to cut

doctore
5th January, 2017, 07:43 PM
you have a digital panel that regulates the voltage may decrease when cutting Try to be measured directly how many volts in motor

or disrupted angle attacking on the key has too much pressure because it pushes electronics ,end motor canot work is heats

and also check the windings of copper wire in the motor may have been a little burnt

maybe I'm in this little helped

autochei
6th January, 2017, 09:30 PM
i found the problem
The speed controller it s faulty
on the motor i ts conected a electronic board

where can i bought this piece?

doctore
6th January, 2017, 09:56 PM
motor 12v brusshess motors or not and how much amp is speed control i faund and goo complety with motor aliminum case and speed controler its not chip but you can use from rc heli controler and must now amp is not expensive pm

truedetective
6th January, 2017, 11:59 PM
I've had this happen to me. Replaced the motor controller with one from a model RC shop. New Motor controller had a delay before start up so I connected the motor to the light feed and the light feed to the motor. Motor isn't automatic now but I can control the speed which means I've been able to slow the motor right down to cut plastic keys. Machine seems to run a lot better now.
I used a 30 amp controller - huge overkill.

81zx
7th January, 2017, 12:42 AM
Here you buy a complete motor
http://www.onlyda.com/product-1436

autochei
9th January, 2017, 07:21 PM
i make a order from onlida

thank u all

lalaina74
11th January, 2017, 03:13 PM
Hi guys does anyone have a link to the pc software for V8/X6? cant find it anywhere thanks

Codemaster

https://www.mediafire.com/?2447ujp6q94x2db

redliner
6th April, 2017, 08:40 PM
Hello everyone I just bought KCM 7 updated version of x6/v8 machine. I will share my experience and also will need some suport from users because my supplier doesn't even answer ones payd for this machine ;)
- first test decoding hu83 after 3rd time shown proper code.
- decoding hu100 5 blade decode anytime, other 3 blades stuck and canceling job in half way
- Proton Po1 blade decode and cut perfect but I hear the machine sound and the motor is very loudy - I read that this machine is equiped with better brushless motor but this noise is disquieting.
- I received machine with Chinese stickers on it instead of English.
Generally dissapointed after 2 days of use, I am worried what next.
No instruction no CD no software given. I was told this can work with PC and Android Tablet by bluetooth but i think this machine is not upgrade but downgrade or fake copy It looks same but has carbon film on the upper case and full face front shied.

autoTkey
7th April, 2017, 08:33 AM
KCM is the same tool with different colors, as far as I know.
Don't use it for decoding, there's no point in that and it's not it's strength.
Just input the bittings manually and cut the key - that's when this machine will be useful for you.

And for that much money you can't seriously expect to have control by PC/Android/Bluetooth...

redliner
7th April, 2017, 05:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnDjwhzrIAI attached the photos of this product and I found a video with the same machine but is called different.
I will decode all blades and compare the code for testing purpose. I think it may be the problem with the settings or loose parts in the machine because Chinese working fast and inaccurately in most cases. My machine was despatched DHL and I received after 2 weeks so I think they just made it from my money and they did not pay attention to details.

mecadriano
8th April, 2017, 03:02 PM
-benz?ico.

mecadriano
8th April, 2017, 03:02 PM
[QUOTE = lalaina74; 2929353] Codemaster

https://www.mediafire.com/?2447ujp6q94x2db [/ QUOTE]


Can anyone confirm if this software is really compatible with x6?

mecadriano
8th April, 2017, 11:43 PM
Friends, I worked on finding the correct drive for this usb drive, I found, and this confirmed that machine works with this software, I attach draiv that worked for me in windos 7 32b,441785441786

klesk1986
9th April, 2017, 10:03 AM
Friends, I worked on finding the correct drive for this usb drive, I found, and this confirmed that machine works with this software, I attach draiv that worked for me in windos 7 32b,441785441786

On my machine I use software from link below (Download Software for A7 Key Cutting Machine (Software for 3511163) ):
http://us.ecutool.com/Download_3.html

techterr
9th April, 2017, 08:52 PM
How did you format the card??? You have to format the card with fat, DO NOT FORMAT THE CARD WITH NTFS.... The software should be OK, the problem is your machine can't read a card that is formated with NTFS...

obeids
10th April, 2017, 07:57 AM
i found the problem
The speed controller it s faulty
on the motor i ts conected a electronic board

where can i bought this piece?

Hi there. Did you solve this problem? I have sold few machines to customer and no problem. Only one machine from day 1 doing the same thing like your machine.
The cutting motor just stops even if no key.
The supplier sent me new motor unit and after fitting it still do the same.

autochei
10th April, 2017, 08:06 AM
Hi there. Did you solve this problem? I have sold few machines to customer and no problem. Only one machine from day 1 doing the same thing like your machine.
The cutting motor just stops even if no key.
The supplier sent me new motor unit and after fitting it still do the same.


i change engine but nothing some prob

obeids
10th April, 2017, 06:18 PM
i change engine but nothing some prob

Did you try to change speed controller?

redliner
10th April, 2017, 10:53 PM
Friends, I worked on finding the correct drive for this usb drive, I found, and this confirmed that machine works with this software, I attach draiv that worked for me in windos 7 32b,441785441786

Hi Mcadrino I just used yours files on my machine and it's working well and I thank you for that. I just wonder how to connect wirelessly I try with no luck.
Can someone recommend a differend software compatible for this machine with key blade tip profile picture, this will make it easier for work as I need sometimes to look in the catalog.

Estate2
8th May, 2017, 02:51 PM
My X6 doesn't cut hu66 correctly any more.... The cut isnt parallel to the key. One side is deep enough the other too shallow.... Anyone know the cause?

redliner
8th May, 2017, 10:19 PM
My X6 doesn't cut hu66 correctly any more.... The cut isnt parallel to the key. One side is deep enough the other too shallow.... Anyone know the cause?


do you use hu66 adapter, did you try to calibrate first?

Estate2
12th May, 2017, 05:56 PM
No. I don't use an hu66 adapter. I've never had to? The cut just doesn't seem parallel to the key? I always calibrate when i turn the machine on...

klesk1986
12th May, 2017, 06:08 PM
No. I don't use an hu66 adapter. I've never had to? The cut just doesn't seem parallel to the key? I always calibrate when i turn the machine on...

Post photo of cutted key where ww can see problem.

redliner
13th May, 2017, 12:05 AM
No. I don't use an hu66 adapter. I've never had to? The cut just doesn't seem parallel to the key? I always calibrate when i turn the machine on...

In my opinion you should use Hu66 adapter as it's always supplied with the machine so must be the reason for this.

redliner
13th May, 2017, 12:08 AM
anyone know how to cut HU133 blade X6 machine or KCM7, Miracle for suzuki swift as I can't find this, maybe hiden somewhere, can't believe it hasn't got this

klesk1986
13th May, 2017, 06:46 AM
anyone know how to cut HU133 blade X6 machine or KCM7, Miracle for suzuki swift as I can't find this, maybe hiden somewhere, can't believe it hasn't got this

Run pc software and make your own profil to cut hu133 gathering info from instacode

Recoder
13th May, 2017, 07:45 PM
HU87 maybe???.

obeids
14th May, 2017, 11:21 AM
The Speed Control PCB on the original unit faulty. The company sent another complete motor assembly and the motor itself was defective. I then swapped motors and finally got the machine working properly.

redliner
14th May, 2017, 06:04 PM
HU87 maybe???.
Such an answer I expected, thank you

Estate2
15th May, 2017, 03:34 PM
Post photo of cutted key where ww can see problem.
Imagine the first cut at the tip being 2mm deep and the last cut being 1mm and the depth between the first and last cut being gradually less

klesk1986
15th May, 2017, 04:01 PM
Imagine the first cut at the tip being 2mm deep and the last cut being 1mm and the depth between the first and last cut being gradually less

If it's only on HU66 key isn't mounted correctly - use hu66 adaptor and don't forget place cutter higher than ordinary or you break cutter during tool change probe. If you got that effect on all laser keys than you got problem with machine geometry.

ekvas
15th May, 2017, 05:21 PM
No. I don't use an hu66 adapter. I've never had to? The cut just doesn't seem parallel to the key? I always calibrate when i turn the machine on...


i have not problem with hu 66, for vw

10 key cutting Prefekt

must adapter
450148

and calibration cuter, and NO problem

REGARDS

redliner
15th May, 2017, 10:32 PM
I have question for users of X6-V8 or similar. The problem is with cutting HU100 as groove width is about 2.90mm when the original blade has 2.62mm. Is there any settings for this? I try change some options but did'n see any difference. The problem is with some patterns cutting high at the very edge or even I had fixtue cut.

klesk1986
16th May, 2017, 02:03 AM
Redliner - you can cheat it by assign higher cutter size than it really is and change y axis correction or cut depths correction. Try also cut from pc app, from my testing i know that programs in machine aren't good.

redliner
31st May, 2017, 01:12 PM
Redliner - you can cheat it by assign higher cutter size than it really is and change y axis correction or cut depths correction. Try also cut from pc app, from my testing i know that programs in machine aren't good.

I used machine PC software and change cutter setting form 2mm to 2.5mm also Y axis lowered for 0.15mm it definitely better I need to play with it but you suggestion was right. Thank You

tkumonryu
8th June, 2017, 11:15 AM
Anyone tried cutting silca key CY24 for Jeep Cherokee?
The machine ask to align the key to slot #4, but it only long enough to clamp to reach slot #3.
It won't allow me to adjust from default slot #4 to slot #3 but can adjust further away to slot #5.:palm:

saintgp
9th June, 2017, 09:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnDjwhzrIAI attached the photos of this product and I found a video with the same machine but is called different.
I will decode all blades and compare the code for testing purpose. I think it may be the problem with the settings or loose parts in the machine because Chinese working fast and inaccurately in most cases. My machine was despatched DHL and I received after 2 weeks so I think they just made it from my money and they did not pay attention to details.

hi buddy

do you have a link or contact details for the seller of this machine?

redliner
20th June, 2017, 05:55 PM
Hi You can find on Aliexpress but it's hard to find good supplier in there, many sellers write that they are manufacturer and give support but this is for marketing purpose or generic advertising just like with this video. I have problem with this machine and they did not answer after I send money. The android control is fiction - no one manage to set it up.

dediegokey
21st June, 2017, 02:15 AM
Redliner,you have tu use a special vag vise to cut these keys,very cheap.

redliner
21st June, 2017, 02:14 PM
Redliner,you have tu use a special vag vise to cut these keys,very cheap.

Yes the Vag adapter was included to the set and I use it. I also buy additional adapter to cut Tibbe blade and just wonder if I need the one to cut Merc HU64 or not

redliner
21st June, 2017, 02:29 PM
Anyone tried cutting silca key CY24 for Jeep Cherokee?
The machine ask to align the key to slot #4, but it only long enough to clamp to reach slot #3.
It won't allow me to adjust from default slot #4 to slot #3 but can adjust further away to slot #5.:palm:

Hi what machine you using ? did you try to use PC software ? there you can change key slot- see atached picture

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tkumonryu
21st June, 2017, 02:58 PM
Hi what machine you using ? did you try to use PC software ? there you can change key slot- see atached picture

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Hi Redliner,
Yep, using the x6/v8 machine... Been using it without connect to computer... Looks like needed to get it setup connect to the computer. The software you showing is the codemaster5?
Thanks for letting me know.

Sent from my R7plusf using Tapatalk

redliner
21st June, 2017, 03:52 PM
yes if you need drivers then let me know. The software in the machine is crap, don't cut properly, I had problem with HU100 some narrow blades as it's cuts very wide and VA2 cutting shape is completely different and some codes may not work.

autoTkey
21st June, 2017, 03:54 PM
This is the miracle A5 software.

redliner - without HU64 clamp you can't cut Benz blades

redliner
21st June, 2017, 04:11 PM
This is the miracle A5 software.

redliner - without HU64 clamp you can't cut Benz blades

Yeah I know there is a adapter for it but I was thinking that someone may try to cut this blade from ordinary fixture on upper site. I know that some people can cut hu66 without adapter but some have problems. I never cut Hu64 on this machine I want to prepare for this eventuality and ask users what they think.

dediegokey
22nd June, 2017, 02:05 AM
I just cut JMA MB7P with out adapter, loocks good, will try it tomorrow in the lock let you know if works.
BDW Im using a Mirale A7 a clone from A5.

klesk1986
22nd June, 2017, 06:17 AM
I've also yesterday cut HU64 without any adapter (bottom, pos. 4) to S class 2003 and work perfect

redliner
22nd June, 2017, 09:36 AM
So Benz can be cutted without adapter. I think they sale adapers as the machine software is crap from my observation. I cut HU100 some time ago from machine the cutter start to cut from the tip and go far outside the blade cutting also my fixture (I hold finger on stop button at all time) Use of computer software has a different working culture.

AlanSquare
19th July, 2017, 10:54 PM
Hi,

I bought this machine in 2014 and i have problems with the software. The database in the machine is really poor and the software furnished is a 2012.

It works badly with windows 10 and i have broken 2 probes. The machine stops at the half of the cutting and is unable to continue.I must reset it. Until now i cutted only 1 key.

What do you think about this situation ? If you have good ideas, i'll take it.

REDLINER : you said "Hi You can find on Aliexpress but it's hard to find good supplier in there, many sellers write that they are manufacturer and give support but this is for marketing purpose or generic advertising just like with this video. I have problem with this machine and they did not answer after I send money. The android control is fiction - no one manage to set it up."

I agree what you say, they are only able to take money, never ask them for after sales service, you never will have answers...

Thank you,

Alain

redliner
20th July, 2017, 10:09 AM
Hi,

I bought this machine in 2014 and i have problems with the software. The database in the machine is really poor and the software furnished is a 2012.

It works badly with windows 10 and i have broken 2 probes. The machine stops at the half of the cutting and is unable to continue.I must reset it. Until now i cutted only 1 key.

What do you think about this situation ? If you have good ideas, i'll take it.

REDLINER : you said "Hi You can find on Aliexpress but it's hard to find good supplier in there, many sellers write that they are manufacturer and give support but this is for marketing purpose or generic advertising just like with this video. I have problem with this machine and they did not answer after I send money. The android control is fiction - no one manage to set it up."

I agree what you say, they are only able to take money, never ask them for after sales service, you never will have answers...

Thank you,

Alain


Hi I guess from your statement that the problems are through PC software under Win10. Is there problem also using machine software?. Maybe the problem is with Incompatible drivers under windows 10. I use Win 7 and CodeMaster 5.5 so far cutting ok, only one problem with the USB socket in the laptop lose it's connection sometimes and then cutting will stops immediately so check this.
If you want I can send you my drivers and software that I use but was posted 2 times in DK by me and other guy that help me out with it as seller didn't supply any software.

auto techniek
20th July, 2017, 10:15 AM
Thanks a lot for sharing your point of view.
I ve the machine on my wish list but I m not sure.

Buying for china is always a risk. After receiving the Item you ve no change of gettiing any support or waranty if you get problems.

On aliexpress al sellers use dropshippping. They order what you buy some where after you ve payed. They don't even have any experiences and any knowledge is you need help.

Even Xhorse do not have any customers services to help you. Without this forum and others you wil throw your money if you buy chinese tools.

AlanSquare
20th July, 2017, 10:37 PM
HI Redliner,

Thank you for your answer. Why not not for the pilot and the software. I am working on the database, reaally poor. It's not a good basis for my activity for collector cars. I tried to decode the keys, but i don't know the software to do that. I observed that many keys have the same length or width, number of pins. I am creating a database of compatibility. After i will try it, but i must first to resolve my problem of machine.
We can continue in private the last part of this conversation if you want. I didn't understands what you want to say with "was posted 2 times in DK".

Regards,
Alan

AlanSquare
20th July, 2017, 10:42 PM
Without this forum and others you wil throw your money if you buy chinese tools.

That's why i stopped all type of commerce with the chinese people. I prefer the american vendors, more serious, with a good reactivity. The last conversation with the vendor of my machine was "muscled", correct but very clear for the future of our relations.

Regards,
Alan

Automat
28th August, 2017, 03:01 PM
My X6 doesn't cut hu66 correctly any more.... The cut isnt parallel to the key. One side is deep enough the other too shallow.... Anyone know the cause?

I put honda key at wrong tip stop, the machine struggled thinking it was doing the tip. Now it's cutting keys deep at the key head and shallow at the tip when doing the right side, shallow at the key head and deep at the tip when doing the left side. Keys are cutting at an angle.
Anyone experience this? I haven't taken it apart yet, any suggestions for correcting this will be helpful. Thank you!

Automat
28th August, 2017, 06:36 PM
Corrected, I opened it up and found no adjustment. So I put a key blank in the jaw, attached a wrench and put pressure on it, heard a click, and all is well now.
Machine is cutting straight again. Odd.........

Samic
29th August, 2017, 11:09 AM
Thanks a lot for sharing your point of view.
I ve the machine on my wish list but I m not sure.
Buying for china is always a risk. After receiving the Item you ve no change of gettiing any support or waranty if you get problems.
On aliexpress al sellers use dropshippping. They order what you buy some where after you ve payed. They don't even have any experiences and any knowledge is you need help.
Even Xhorse do not have any customers services to help you. Without this forum and others you wil throw your money if you buy chinese tools.

hello friend, sorry late to reply you.you can tell me your xhorse products problem in detail.
i will try my best to help and solve your problem.

auto techniek
5th September, 2017, 08:24 AM
Hi M8


Today received the cutter machine. But the display is too bright that I can 't read it.

Any ideas how to adjiust this.

auto techniek
5th September, 2017, 11:30 AM
Problem solved. in the front of the computer host you find a hole. Turn with a scew driver slowly till you get sharp picture.

auto techniek
5th September, 2017, 11:48 AM
I ve cut a hu64 key without adapter. Adapter is ordered and not yet received.

Key is decoded as 4224210231
Key did not open the door. What is wrong?

autoTkey
6th September, 2017, 08:35 AM
It could be incorrect reading(I'm not good enough to tell from the pictures) or it could be the key blank doesn't have the correct width.

redliner
8th September, 2017, 07:11 PM
I ve cut a hu64 key without adapter. Adapter is ordered and not yet received.

Key is decoded as 4224210231
Key did not open the door. What is wrong?

Hi the machine is not good for key decoding especially HU64 has 10 positions very near each other. Your reading is defo wrong as the blade has 5 heights. Those machines decoding some as "0" but there never will be zero usually it's nearest number so pin 7 is number 1.
In my opinion you have to add one number higher to each pin so should be 5335321342 but that it's just from my experience with this machine I have no feature to decode the blade from picture.

redliner
8th September, 2017, 08:22 PM
I have problem cutting VA2 blade for Toyota Aygo, 107 or C1 by this machine please tell me how you doing it. As you know this type is different and has pins on the top and on the bottom. I using 2mm drill bit, the machine cutting around 2.5mm groove but it's not enough and the key doesn't work in a lock. Original groove is much wider and I try cut from machine and PC software. Only one chance to make biger groove is to set the drill as 1.5 mm but some areas are cutted 0.30mm to much. Did someone try to install biger drill?

auto techniek
9th September, 2017, 03:01 PM
What about the adapter? Do you use it?

Does it solve this problem?

What is the best way to decode the keys?


Hi the machine is not good for key decoding especially HU64 has 10 positions very near each other. Your reading is defo wrong as the blade has 5 heights. Those machines decoding some as "0" but there never will be zero usually it's nearest number so pin 7 is number 1.
In my opinion you have to add one number higher to each pin so should be 5335321342 but that it's just from my experience with this machine I have no feature to decode the blade from picture.

p1et
9th September, 2017, 04:49 PM
What about the adapter? Do you use it?
What is the best way to decode the keys?

Manually by sight mate :) Instacode and caliper will help if decoding some less common / not well known profile of keys or those with many cut heights ex. HU43

redliner
15th September, 2017, 09:51 PM
What about the adapter? Do you use it?

Does it solve this problem?

What is the best way to decode the keys?
I have no adapter for HU64. I cut this blade recently one site from machine the other from PC to see the difference. Didn't test in the lock yet but from my calculations machine cut 0.15mm lower and from PC software some pins are 0.30 to higher so may not work. PC software has the option to lower the axle so need to play with it longer.
This machine is crap because it's not cutting the blades as it should from the manufacture dimension. I don't trust and always check measurment by the caliper tool. I see the difference and learn each blade how to cut and how to set it up. This take long time but ones used to it, it will do the job as well as the Silca I think.

redliner
29th September, 2017, 10:34 PM
I am writing a correction to the previous post HU64 blade cutting experience.
one site blade cut was differ from another but this wasn't the case of the PC software. I try to cut again both sides by the machine and still the same result.
don't know why maybe the blank blade poor quality (bend) or because was cut in original fixture (no adapter).
The solution was to measure higher pins by the caliper and setting them in a lower value (code adjustment). If all pins are differ on the same value you can lower the axle. In my case only a few needs correct and the blade works in the lock as factory.
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addingbacon
5th October, 2017, 11:04 AM
hi everyone is there anyone with this software for pc that can send it to me please

autoTkey
5th October, 2017, 12:05 PM
hi everyone is there anyone with this software for pc that can send it to me please

Yes, there is, but I suggest you search for it. There are links back in this thread.

addingbacon
5th October, 2017, 01:10 PM
thanks i did find it

auto techniek
7th October, 2017, 11:58 AM
Need some help

Looking for instacode database 2015?

A seller asking me 15 USD. Is this version better or in it a watste of money.

Shumy1234
12th October, 2017, 11:37 AM
This machine works well by cutting the code, but it does not work well with software! I use separate decoding software and then enter with the keyboard of the machine. I've cut volvo, bmw, ranger rover, suzuki, mercedes. The machine has a battery and 12 volt charger, portable and lightweight. I've also cut a Ford Mondeo. There may be a problem with Fiat Citroen FI -16.P and SIX -3.P...

auto techniek
12th October, 2017, 11:44 AM
Can you share your decoding software?


This machine works well by cutting the code, but it does not work well with software! I use separate decoding software and then enter with the keyboard of the machine. I've cut volvo, bmw, ranger rover, suzuki, mercedes. The machine has a battery and 12 volt charger, portable and lightweight. I've also cut a Ford Mondeo. There may be a problem with Fiat Citroen FI -16.P and SIX -3.P...

Shumy1234
12th October, 2017, 12:03 PM
http://car-key-database.software.informer.com/1.0/ But I do not connect it to the machine. I use it to search and confirm the key code. I connected it with software, CodeMaster 5.5 does not work well, the milling cutter sticks into the vise!

auto techniek
12th October, 2017, 12:29 PM
can some one upload the file pls?

Shumy1234
12th October, 2017, 01:00 PM
Beware of Chinese blanks. They are very hard, especially Mercedes. I cut it step by step, positioning one down. Otherwise the machine is very difficult.

Shumy1234
12th October, 2017, 01:09 PM
And do not decode the plastic VAG, the decoder will be damaged

redliner
15th December, 2017, 01:21 AM
Hi I looking for newest database that is written on the Machine SD card. What you got? I recently take out the module and save the data on HDD just in case but I got v2014.
My machine is KCM7 I believe it's the same as x6/v8. The Pc software from Miracle working like charm but it can not be transfered to the machine as it's different file format.

autoTkey
15th December, 2017, 06:19 AM
The Chinese didn't release any newer database than that and probably never will update it. We will have to satisfy with it. Probably they will release a new machine(with different DB) sometime in the future when it suits them and if they can hack another original.

By the way does anyone have intel which is the manufacturing factory of this machine? I see only resellers...

redliner
15th December, 2017, 02:22 PM
The Chinese didn't release any newer database than that and probably never will update it. We will have to satisfy with it. Probably they will release a new machine(with different DB) sometime in the future when it suits them and if they can hack another original.

By the way does anyone have intel which is the manufacturing factory of this machine? I see only resellers...

When I bought my machine I was offered v2014 free and v2015 pay extra. Now I see on the resellers, dealers selling v2015 for free and v2016 pay extra. I thing new version exist but don't know the difference so it may be just marketing hack or it's improved with more blades or cutting culture and precision. If somebody buy recently the machine it must have new database so please share and I will test and compare to older version.

autoTkey
15th December, 2017, 02:35 PM
I'll make sure to check in January when my new machine arrives.

darknezz19
16th December, 2017, 03:27 AM
Could we get a list of keys that will need to have code cutting adjusted?

redliner has said HU64 required adjustments on the various cuts.

I know GM single sided VATS(GM H key I believe) cuts 1mm above all cuts. To fix this I adjusted the cutter size from 2mm to 1mm still using the 2mm bit and it cut great then.

redliner
16th December, 2017, 07:19 PM
Could we get a list of keys that will need to have code cutting adjusted?

redliner has said HU64 required adjustments on the various cuts.

I know GM single sided VATS(GM H key I believe) cuts 1mm above all cuts. To fix this I adjusted the cutter size from 2mm to 1mm still using the 2mm bit and it cut great then.

HU64 need adjust for sure and VA6/VA2 can't remember if all but for the Citroen C1 or Aygo with B series code for sure. The blades with big tolerance are Ok. I can't remember if there is more, I cutting most popular Euro cars only.
Fiat Sip22 blade don't need adjust but cuts from machine is bad so I advice to cut form PC software.
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auto techniek
17th December, 2017, 09:03 AM
As redliner said:

HU64 need for sure Adjustement.
HU66 and Sip22 works good without.

You have to play with it if key is not cut good.
Decoding keys is very bad. I always decode keys several times before cutting.

zyjekrc51
18th December, 2017, 11:02 AM
Did you try to change speed controller?

I just connected power directly to motor and using an old 12 v battery to run motor, it took me 5 minutes and back to business again

super jumbe
18th December, 2017, 01:11 PM
Lads just want to know can this machine duplicate original keys?

autoTkey
18th December, 2017, 01:33 PM
Lads just want to know can this machine duplicate original keys?

You cannot get a simple YES/NO answer for this machine. It has the options in the menu but for each key it's different.

super jumbe
18th December, 2017, 08:13 PM
You cannot get a simple YES/NO answer for this machine. It has the options in the menu but for each key it's different.

Thanks http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/joyman.gif http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/joyman.gif

redliner
18th December, 2017, 10:43 PM
Lads just want to know can this machine duplicate original keys?

If you have the key in hand you can place in the machine for decoding the blade, after that if you choose cut you will get the option displayed as on the picture.
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autoTkey
19th December, 2017, 07:12 AM
If you have the key in hand you can place in the machine for decoding the blade, after that if you choose cut you will get the option displayed as on the picture.
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Yes, it is available for every key but this doesn't mean it can do it. There are many keys which it just reads wrong. So just don't rely on this machine for duplicating.

redliner
19th December, 2017, 03:54 PM
I just show how it looks like from the machine. We know and was already said from previous posts that this machine is not so good with key decoding. I did not check many different blades for decoding but has only problem with VA2 HU83 decoding wrong at all. Sometimes machine can display number 5 in a 4 level blade but it can be changed manually to nearest and should be fine.

Faraday
19th December, 2017, 05:33 PM
For duplikate key you can buy any machine, my main interest is all key lost (cut from key code).

Do you recommend this machine?

autoTkey
20th December, 2017, 06:34 AM
It depends - if you work a lot all-key-lost(few per day) you'd better head for a Condor or a Miracle. But if you only do it occasionally(few per week) then this one should be perfect.

zeb000
3rd January, 2018, 01:36 PM
InstaCode August 2016

auto techniek
3rd January, 2018, 04:23 PM
Can it be updated?

InstaCode August 2016[/QUOTE]

zeb000
3rd January, 2018, 09:06 PM
[QUOTE = auto techniek; 3181021] Pode ser atualizado? [/ QUOTE]


not :(

darknezz19
3rd January, 2018, 09:33 PM
You shouldn't post pirated software here unless you want this website to be taken down. Don't be so careless.

redliner
3rd January, 2018, 09:44 PM
InstaCode August 2016

This one is old and illegal version.

newone
3rd January, 2018, 11:25 PM
InstaCode August 2016
i see the future...
this post is going to be delete

PremierD
3rd January, 2018, 11:38 PM
Correct .................. he should have read this .. http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/540631-Important-Instacode-Notice

thiagodutra
5th January, 2018, 01:38 PM
ola pessoal sou novo aqui no forum e recentemente comprei a x6/v8

vi em alguns videos no youtube que usam um software para controlar pelo computador. alguem sabe qual é ??

autoTkey
5th January, 2018, 02:35 PM
ola pessoal sou novo aqui no forum e recentemente comprei a x6/v8

vi em alguns videos no youtube que usam um software para controlar pelo computador. alguem sabe qual é ??

Please use English language.

Weasel3
5th January, 2018, 02:53 PM
Please use English language.

I heard some rumours.
This is what happens, if you don't use English language. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2lfZg-apSA

thiagodutra
5th January, 2018, 05:04 PM
Sorry, I'll use google translator.


Hello everyone, I am new here in the forum and recently bought the x6 / v8


I've seen in some videos on youtube that use software to control by computer. Does anyone know what it is?


thank you

redliner
6th January, 2018, 12:49 AM
Sorry, I'll use google translator.


Hello everyone, I am new here in the forum and recently bought the x6 / v8


I've seen in some videos on youtube that use software to control by computer. Does anyone know what it is?


thank you


Hi
For PC software you have to search some previous posts as it was already there.

thiagodutra
6th January, 2018, 05:13 PM
[QUOTE = redliner; 3182826] Oi
Para o software para PC, você deve pesquisar algumas postagens anteriores, já que já estava lá. [/ QUOTE]


I downloaded the software that was posted but it is from the miracle and not from the key machine x6 / v8

auto techniek
6th January, 2018, 05:31 PM
There is no x6/ V8 software.
Miracle software works better than machine software

redliner
6th January, 2018, 05:31 PM
[QUOTE = redliner; 3182826] Oi
Para o software para PC, você deve pesquisar algumas postagens anteriores, já que já estava lá. [/ QUOTE]


I downloaded the software that was posted but it is from the miracle and not from the key machine x6 / v8

As far as I know there is no software released for x6/v8 however miracle has the same system used and drivers and the machine working better then on the integrated software.
You can look deeper for the android software. I saw the x6/v8 machine working from mobile phone but nobody know what is it and from where.

thiagodutra
11th January, 2018, 12:43 PM
thank you so much ! worked perfectly


I was using win10 and it did not work.
I changed to win7 it worked normally :)

auto techniek
14th January, 2018, 09:29 AM
Hi


Need some help.

Can anyone decode the key.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180114/4f2d2dc943a1500181d9798c816208ec.jpg

Weasel3
14th January, 2018, 03:46 PM
VA2 after 2010? If this is right, using the invert bitting should be. 576856. When rotating the picture 180 degrees.

I see that it is not in the software you are using together with the machine.
It has only only VA2 from 2002-2009 available.

auto techniek
14th January, 2018, 05:36 PM
Hoi

It is VA2 from a clio 3 from 2006.

Weasel3
14th January, 2018, 11:14 PM
I think this is not an easy one. ABCDEF in heights.
But you are quite close with putting this in your software or machine. ACB-AAD
Customer sent you only a picture. Or you can not decode with the machine?
Or you can cut and test until you get a working key?

I see you rotated the picture also. Easier to read like this.

auto techniek
15th January, 2018, 05:39 PM
I wil try and play with it.

I ve only a picture and key is not present.

I m interested in reading keys bitting with the eyes and trying to learn


I think this is not an easy one. ABCDEF in heights.
But you are quite close with putting this in your software or machine. ACB-AAD
Customer sent you only a picture. Or you can not decode with the machine?
Or you can cut and test until you get a working key?

I see you rotated the picture also. Easier to read like this.

auto techniek
18th January, 2018, 10:44 PM
Hi

Are Miracle A5/A9 cutters and tracers also suiitable for v8/x6 machine?

My cutters/tracers need to be fastened with a screw.

What are the specification of the cutters?

redliner
18th January, 2018, 11:18 PM
Hi

Are Miracle A5/A9 cutters and tracers also suiitable for v8/x6 machine?

My cutters/tracers need to be fastened with a screw.

What are the specification of teh cutters?

for v8/X6 has 6mm / 2mm/ 35mm long I don't know if Miracle are compatible but they are longer.

auto techniek
18th January, 2018, 11:22 PM
Do you know where to buy?

darknezz19
21st January, 2018, 08:42 AM
How often does everyone calibrate their machine? Once every time it's turned on? After every key that is cut?

auto techniek
21st January, 2018, 10:59 AM
I do it before each cutting job.

ramiz auto lock
21st January, 2018, 09:14 PM
I calibrate every time begir use .
Found that the key is cut more accurate and much better
I never used to calibrate .sometines after cutting the key was perfect on the door lock but a bit catchy on the ignition since I calibrate never have this problem.

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

ramiz auto lock
21st January, 2018, 09:22 PM
I can see in this thread there are a lot of bad comments on this tool .
I would like to share my experience with this tool
I bought this tool 2 years ago and this is the only key cutting machine I have at the moment and I cut minimum 15 keys every week with it and it never let me down apart from buying cutters .
For a £900 automatic key cutting machine i think it has done a lot more for me.
Well happy with it even thinking of buying another one for back up


Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

auto techniek
22nd January, 2018, 12:25 PM
Do you use machine software ?

I ve always problems with Hu64 keys. Some time have to do the job 2 or 3 times before working.



I can see in this thread there are a lot of bad comments on this tool .
I would like to share my experience with this tool
I bought this tool 2 years ago and this is the only key cutting machine I have at the moment and I cut minimum 15 keys every week with it and it never let me down apart from buying cutters .
For a £900 automatic key cutting machine i think it has done a lot more for me.
Well happy with it even thinking of buying another one for back up


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ramiz auto lock
22nd January, 2018, 08:22 PM
no i just use the machine never used the software on pc or laptop.

auto techniek
6th February, 2018, 07:54 PM
I m getting crazy with this machine.can t make good keys HU64 whatever i try.

If you got any secrets pls share them.

darknezz19
6th February, 2018, 09:40 PM
Maybe cutter needs to be replaced? Do you have x6 v8 with the rubber bands or direct drill motor? Maybe rubber bands wearing out if you have that model.

ramiz auto lock
7th February, 2018, 12:34 AM
I m getting crazy with this machine.can t make good keys HU64 whatever i try.

If you got any secrets pls share them.Are you using hu64 adaptor?

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk

redliner
7th February, 2018, 12:51 AM
Do you know where to buy?

probably from the same place where the machine. I will need some soon as left with last one at the moment. I will order a larger quantity because one piece it is unprofitable buying from China.

redliner
7th February, 2018, 12:57 AM
How often does everyone calibrate their machine? Once every time it's turned on? After every key that is cut?

I test that and I don't see any difference with cutting when I not calibrate for months also every time I swith off all machine including power adaptor and no problem whatsoever.

redliner
7th February, 2018, 01:14 AM
Do you use machine software ?

I ve always problems with Hu64 keys. Some time have to do the job 2 or 3 times before working.

don't listen ramiz auto lock I can't believe that he tell truth or he is lucky to not to use those problematic blades in his country.
To cut some of the key blades you must I repeat - you must ! use Pc software. There is no other way to cut from the machine working hu64 and some Va2 Peugeot blade you must use PC software and special function that the machine does not have it.
Also Fiat Sip22 blade cutted from machine will cut all Tip, hu83 will cut bad Tip and the key will fit the door lock but will not work in the ignition.

auto techniek
7th February, 2018, 04:17 AM
Are you using hu64 adaptor?

Sent from my SM-G925F using TapatalkSame result with or without adapter

ramiz auto lock
7th February, 2018, 10:37 PM
don't listen ramiz auto lock I can't believe that he tell truth or he is lucky to not to use those problematic blades in his country.
To cut some of the key blades you must I repeat - you must ! use Pc software. There is no other way to cut from the machine working hu64 and some Va2 Peugeot blade you must use PC software and special function that the machine does not have it.
Also Fiat Sip22 blade cutted from machine will cut all Tip, hu83 will cut bad Tip and the key will fit the door lock but will not work in the ignition.
you dont know how to use your machine or there is something wrong with your machine...
i never use software on pc never had problem the only problem that i had with this machine is that it does not decode va2 or va6
sip22 no problem at all
hu83 no problem at all
hu66 no problem at all
i would say get your machine checked out or check your probes or cutters
i dont cut more than 10 keys with every cutter i find that helpfull

ramiz auto lock
7th February, 2018, 10:46 PM
Same result with or without adapter
contact your suplayer maybe there is a fault with your machine
i know a friend that had some problem with its machine he send it back to china they done a full rebuild and update the machine with the new parts and only cost him £220 including postage but it took about 3 weeks since then i never heard him complaining about it.
i will get the details off him tomorrow and post it here maybe that help

redliner
8th February, 2018, 01:23 AM
you dont know how to use your machine or there is something wrong with your machine...
i never use software on pc never had problem the only problem that i had with this machine is that it does not decode va2 or va6
sip22 no problem at all
hu83 no problem at all
hu66 no problem at all
i would say get your machine checked out or check your probes or cutters
i dont cut more than 10 keys with every cutter i find that helpfull

I know well how to use the machine and I know that machine is technically good and cut always the same from new. I have not big problem with that blades mentioned from you but you still not confirm how you do HU64.
We do not need to repairs to our machine. If you telling the truth then I am convinced that it is the software in the device written wrong.
If you could take your SD card out of machine, copy all contents and send it to me for testing that will be big help.

ramiz auto lock
8th February, 2018, 08:59 AM
I know well how to use the machine and I know that machine is technically good and cut always the same from new. I have not big problem with that blades mentioned from you but you still not confirm how you do HU64.
We do not need to repairs to our machine. If you telling the truth then I am convinced that it is the software in the device written wrong.
If you could take your SD card out of machine, copy all contents and send it to me for testing that will be big help.M8 telling the truth or lie about what ?
That I can cut hu64 without problem.
Are you crazy why are you keep saying the same thing.
I do not have any problem with cutting hu64 I use adaptor and all fine.
Just because you can't cut hu64 that means I lie about the machine are you thick.
I did not invented this tool and I don't sell it I just post what I experience.
If you don't believe I don't give a sh***.

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auto techniek
8th February, 2018, 03:48 PM
So you use machine software
You use hu64 adapter and never have problems cutting HU64.
Do you calibrate the machine before using it?

Can you share your sd content wth us?


sip22 no problem at all
hu83 no problem at all
hu66 no problem at all
i would say get your machine checked out or check your probes or cutters
i dont cut more than 10 keys with every cutter i find that helpfull[/QUOTE]

ramiz auto lock
8th February, 2018, 09:36 PM
So you use machine software
You use hu64 adapter and never have problems cutting HU64.
Do you calibrate the machine before using it?

Can you share your sd content wth us?



sip22 no problem at all
hu83 no problem at all
hu66 no problem at all
i would say get your machine checked out or check your probes or cutters
i dont cut more than 10 keys with every cutter i find that helpfull[/QUOTE]
i calibrate each time before use only takes 30 seconds.
i never opened mine too see whats inside .. where is this sd card how can i get to it?
i

super jumbe
9th February, 2018, 03:47 PM
How we suppose to know if the machine has the latest software 2016 or 2017 before purchase, the seller is not going to tell the truth he just want your money….http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/joyman.gif

redliner
10th February, 2018, 12:59 AM
ramiz auto lock (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/540110-ramiz-auto-lock) told already that hi cut average 15 keys a week. Later on explained that hi use one cutter for not more than 10 blades so average hi use one cutter every week because hi find that helpfull. I don't know what are you taking. What you doing with used cutters ? I can give you some money for it.

redliner
10th February, 2018, 01:10 AM
You have to unscrew 2 screw and pull up this box. There is SD card inserted under the PCB.

505918

505919

darknezz19
14th February, 2018, 01:12 AM
Wonder if anybody has tried to read the Arduino in the red box computer with an isp device. Assuming the bit lock isn't set to 1 we might get some bugs fixed. Maybe they fixed the decode function in a later version and is why some people are able to decode and some are not.

Updated cords from the SD file system would be nice though too if someone could share theirs.

redliner
15th February, 2018, 12:22 PM
I can share my SD content if there is someone that can see this in a programming mode and alter or upgrade.
Can someone tell how you cut HON66 blade from this machine. My experience is that the cutted blade has big tolerance comparing to original dimension. I then try cut from the PC software and cut the same as machine but I could measure the blade and set the code adjustment to make it perfect but it takes long time and a few try so it's not straightforward job and exactly same procedure as HU64

507102

darknezz19
7th March, 2018, 05:42 AM
I can share my SD content if there is someone that can see this in a programming mode and alter or upgrade.
Can someone tell how you cut HON66 blade from this machine. My experience is that the cutted blade has big tolerance comparing to original dimension. I then try cut from the PC software and cut the same as machine but I could measure the blade and set the code adjustment to make it perfect but it takes long time and a few try so it's not straightforward job and exactly same procedure as HU64

507102

Silica profile doesn't work, cuts are way off and don't go far enough down the blade. Use JMA HON66 and set cutter size to 1.9 to make it fit good.

Has anyone had their X6 V8 work on windows 10 x64? Can't get the GPS Prolific USB driver to install on this netbook since my last one blew up.

Edit: Think it's working now after installing with diver signature disabled.

Edit2: Spoke too soon. I can get the driver working for about 20 seconds then windows 10 does something and the driver errors. Tried to disable automatic driver downloads, didn't help. Tried the latest version of the driver found below but it can still only get it to communicate with Code Master software for about 20 seconds before windows disables it.

http://www.prolific.com.tw/US/ShowProduct.aspx?p_id=225&pcid=41

They say the chipset PL-2303HXA, which is in my x6 v8, on the driver page doesn't work on 8.1 or 10. It worked fine on my 8.1 install though. I'll keep dinging and report back if I find a solution.

Edit3: Solution here. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/prolific-usb-to-serial-comm-port-windows-10/0a4f8e48-7135-4434-9d10-349c9ce87fcf?auth=1

Rachon
8th March, 2018, 08:21 PM
Hello, someone tried to make a new key profile with codemaster software ? when i try, the soft bug and close.

darknezz19
9th March, 2018, 05:32 AM
I made a profile today for a X226 Harley Davidson key no problem. Windows 10 x64.

auto techniek
10th March, 2018, 03:38 PM
Machine can't decode right and cut wrong va2 Renault https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/1c165e552b9ca4f4d968d60049a98d78.jpg

Rachon
10th March, 2018, 06:06 PM
thanks Darknezz19 i will try the soft on another laptop.

Rachon
10th March, 2018, 06:06 PM
You tried with codemaster software ?

Rachon
10th March, 2018, 06:07 PM
Machine can't decode right and cut wrong va2 Renault https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180310/1c165e552b9ca4f4d968d60049a98d78.jpg



You tried with code master software ?

auto techniek
10th March, 2018, 06:45 PM
Tried with and without . Same problem.

Seems it decode va2 and hu83 wrongly

darknezz19
10th March, 2018, 09:19 PM
Try to make your own profile if the original ones are that far off.

auto techniek
11th March, 2018, 04:05 PM
Is this blade hu83 or hu83 L ?

What is the measurement?

Can someone decode the blade?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180311/2041ee043d73cd5bed9c208f87f2dfa8.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180311/3329f17ba3d33ea11c96360232241522.jpg

klesk1986
11th March, 2018, 04:24 PM
Hu83lL
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auto techniek
11th March, 2018, 04:31 PM
Can someone share some good working profiles for example HU64?

klesk1986
11th March, 2018, 04:33 PM
This one in pc codemaster software works good for cutting - I decode by eye

auto techniek
11th March, 2018, 04:36 PM
I have to practice a lot

Do you have any probems cutting hu64? Does not work good for me. 8 from 10 times key don't open doors.


This one in pc codemaster software works good for cutting - I decode by eye

rob h
11th March, 2018, 11:00 PM
There a 3 types of hu64.
Try this: cut the key, then take 2mm off the tip.

I assume that you can decode any key correct.
Firts cut to tip, 5.8mm, when you cut it.
Taking the 2mm of, 3.8 to tip. this will fix it.





I have to practice a lot

Do you have any probems cutting hu64? Does not work good for me. 8 from 10 times key don't open doors.

darknezz19
13th March, 2018, 05:57 PM
Had to cut a KIA Optima 2011 KK8 blade but it's not in my x6v8 database, nothing in Hyundai or Kia matches it. It's close to 8.8mm wide on a blank blade, HY15 is 8.3mm and when cut using that profile it kinda worked but it's not the right profile. Anyone have the profile specs for this KK8 key so we can manually add it in? My Instacode doesn't list this key profile either.

camelgd
13th March, 2018, 09:11 PM
From Mike Hyde's Auto Smart Book, (2012 newest I had at hand) KK8, Spaces: .795, .713, .630, .547, .465, .382, .299, .217 (.083 cut to cut)
5 Depths: 1=.328 2=.308 3=.289 4=.269 5=.249
Macs: 3
Sorry they are in inches instead of mm.

rob h
13th March, 2018, 09:18 PM
KK8 is ilco= silca HYN14RTE
It is 8.4mm, it should be in the menu.



Had to cut a KIA Optima 2011 KK8 blade but it's not in my x6v8 database, nothing in Hyundai or Kia matches it. It's close to 8.8mm wide on a blank blade, HY15 is 8.3mm and when cut using that profile it kinda worked but it's not the right profile. Anyone have the profile specs for this KK8 key so we can manually add it in? My Instacode doesn't list this key profile either.

darknezz19
15th March, 2018, 12:56 AM
It's weird because these kia KK8 blanks are 8.7mm wide on the uncut blade. Some of the cuts on the customers keys were 8.7mm or a little below but no where close to 8.3mm. HYN14 was close but not even the spacing was the same. Used key duplicator machine to finish copy and hopefully can figure this out before a an all key lost job calls.

darknezz19
17th March, 2018, 01:17 AM
Crap, broke a belt. Had replacements ordered before this happened but distributor canceled on me because the were out. Anyone know where to get 153mxl state side or does anyone have one I could buy? Trying to use a tube tire repair patch to make the one I have work hopefully till replacement gets here.

super jumbe
30th March, 2018, 12:23 PM
Getting to think twice, I will wait another 6 months before deciding to buy from what I have read its a crap machine...http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/smilies/hmmmm2.gif

Buddy41
8th April, 2018, 12:34 PM
sorry my mistake

ibratex
31st May, 2018, 12:13 AM
hello mates how to use x6 v8 to cut hu101 rover key please guide me any video oit there thanks in advance

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auto techniek
1st June, 2018, 02:55 PM
Guys

I made a lot Hu66 keys without problems
Today need make key for Seat Leon 2007. Made 3 key but none of them turned the ignition on.
I used HU66 H8 to copy.
At the begining of the key you can see the difference.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180601/e34645fad7c0dd7af46ef212b2453195.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180601/c45040cfc4ebb07e7a761a2aa9388772.jpg

darknezz19
7th June, 2018, 03:39 PM
Guys

I made a lot Hu66 keys without problems
Today need make key for Seat Leon 2007. Made 3 key but none of them turned the ignition on.
I used HU66 H8 to copy.
At the begining of the key you can see the difference.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180601/e34645fad7c0dd7af46ef212b2453195.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180601/c45040cfc4ebb07e7a761a2aa9388772.jpg


Mine did the same thing yesterday. Cut a test key and it worked great, then when trying to cut the flip key blade it offset lower just like yours. I didn't use the HU66 adapter but will try again with it today.

auto techniek
7th June, 2018, 11:12 PM
I use now pc software. Works good. I don t trust the machine software.

szengen
7th June, 2018, 11:23 PM
it's better to make a few more pennies, and another machine for years?you do not buy a machine for one season only for a few years

auto techniek
7th June, 2018, 11:28 PM
Sure. I m waiting for condor mini plus soon.

Seems a better choice.

redliner
10th June, 2018, 10:33 PM
Hi
does anyone have experience cutting hu49 the blade for old Vag cars. I just noticed that there are 2 settings and the length, width is different. Can someone explain how to recognize which one is witch? I have only beating code and make model Golf MK3. Please see attached picture for reference.
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Recoder
10th June, 2018, 11:11 PM
I belive the last one i did was 246 in description on A5
I just pulled the plug and put in a blank and guesteimated the cut .
I know what you mean about spacing its to do with double wafer in chambers ?.

redliner
11th June, 2018, 10:44 AM
I belive the last one i did was 246 in description on A5
I just pulled the plug and put in a blank and guesteimated the cut .
I know what you mean about spacing its to do with double wafer in chambers ?.

don't know realy which one is the proper cut for Golf MK3 or how to recognize which type should be used as instacode show both in the same make model and year of manufacture. I can't cut and try as this is work by postage.

Those 2 types are different from cutting a bit. Look into my previous picture from Instacode. It can be seen that first 3 pins are the same length and the rest is moved a bit.

redliner
11th June, 2018, 11:15 AM
hello mates how to use x6 v8 to cut hu101 rover key please guide me any video oit there thanks in advance

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This is the same as Ford Hu101 and I cutting normally both sides using software and then measure difference by caliper on each spot and doing code adjustment. Long time - 2 or 3 time must cut for accurate measure.

redliner
11th June, 2018, 11:30 AM
Mine did the same thing yesterday. Cut a test key and it worked great, then when trying to cut the flip key blade it offset lower just like yours. I didn't use the HU66 adapter but will try again with it today.

Hi Guys I noticed the same thing with my machine. It's because the tip has sharp edges and it's more cutted then original blade.(It can be seen on yours pictured) I don't know how to set up machine to adjust this as my machine cut like this from beginning. Some of the key stuck in the lock but if you soften the edges it will work.

darknezz19
30th July, 2018, 12:18 AM
Just replaced all the belts on mine. Order a replacement pack from a website a while back but only like 2 of the 5 were correct. Anyway belt list for X6 V8 if anyone needs.

B64MXL Cutter Belt
63MXL X Axis Belt 1
B153MXL X Axis Belt 2
B94MXL Y Axis Belt 1
B78MXL Y Axis Belt 2

hcip
15th September, 2018, 05:38 PM
How to add key profile in this machine....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyP0AEHf-qA (https://youtu.be/iyP0AEHf-qA)

hcip
19th September, 2018, 11:26 AM
anybody has a key measurement of Toyota Wigo on Instacode?

Can you shre it to me?

Thanks in advance

nonstarterautos
19th September, 2018, 06:29 PM
X6v8 best ever no problems yet. Easy to work on yourself. And easy to work

Brof
1st October, 2018, 02:56 PM
Can anyone say where is the best place to buy a x6 v8 machine from? and also is there an "updated" latest version of this machine that has a direct drive motor instead of belt driven? or is there such a thing?
Thanks in advance for any help.

obeids
7th October, 2018, 08:02 PM
Can anyone say where is the best place to buy a x6 v8 machine from? and also is there an "updated" latest version of this machine that has a direct drive motor instead of belt driven? or is there such a thing?
Thanks in advance for any help.

The newer ones were all direct drive motors. However these direct drive motors gave me some trouble. Either motors were faulty or some had faulty speed controller boards....

super jumbe
4th November, 2018, 07:45 PM
Can X6/V8 able to cut ford tibbi cuts?

ramiz auto lock
4th November, 2018, 07:58 PM
Can X6/V8 able to cut ford tibbi cuts?Yes but you need fo21 adopter


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Buddy41
4th November, 2018, 08:24 PM
Yes it can.
Fo21 adapter is about £25 from China and is easy to use.

Polkey
23rd November, 2018, 02:09 PM
I'm waiting for fo21 adapter now, i hope too get soon.

Buddy41
28th November, 2018, 08:15 PM
Hi,
I had a read through a few pages but did no tfind what i was looking for.

Renault Scenic 2004 key card 3 button.
Can the x6 key machine cut this key ?

Please advise thanks.

575750

81zx
28th November, 2018, 11:50 PM
Yes using Code Master 5.5 software on a PC

Buddy41
29th November, 2018, 01:45 AM
I see it is VA2 but set up is not straight forward. Plastic part of key fouls clamp & will not reach correct slot alignment.
Can you advise the steps you take please to successfully cut this blank.

darknezz19
1st December, 2018, 01:10 AM
Got one of the new designed machines recently with the screw you need to loosen to change between drill and tracer. I don't decode keys as it's never worked for me so here's my little time saver.


You can actually just calibrate with the drill bit and change your stop position by -.70mm on each position to compensate in code master. I do this and on top don't even calibrate the machine now and it's spot on for about 4 keys so far without loosing calibration. If it did start to cut off in either X or Y axis I'd just adjust in code master. We'll see how long it can go without loosing calibration.


Also this is obvious but you can run your machine off a car's cigarette lighter as well. Not sure if it comes with one new as I bought both mine used. Pretty sure everyone knows that though as it's 12v.