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addgsm
6th December, 2013, 04:53 PM
Need help to locate immo ic and programme for piaggio mp3
here is the ecu
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gepakg
6th December, 2013, 05:39 PM
usually 10f269 mcu inside ecu,but in this i dont see it,check maybe external immo have...

regards Gepa


Need help to locate immo ic and programme for piaggio mp3
here is the ecu
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dell66
6th December, 2013, 07:34 PM
Hello, look this document

igorr
6th December, 2013, 08:08 PM
Immo is in ECU ( ECU is sticking on metal of Engine )
I find this on other forum

estate
6th December, 2013, 10:55 PM
immo in cdi?

gepakg
6th December, 2013, 11:01 PM
when ecu is marelli,sometime keys in st10f269 in qfp114 sometime only in it sync with external immo

this is eldor ecu,first time hear for it...

regards Gepa




Immo is in ECU ( ECU is sticking on metal of Engine )
I find this on other forum

addgsm
7th December, 2013, 01:50 PM
i have been told its not possible to programme this type of ecu at the moment

gepakg
7th December, 2013, 02:22 PM
MP3 year of manufacturer? dont see fine on pic,what MCU bga inside?

regards Gepa


i have been told its not possible to programme this type of ecu at the moment

rayjay
7th December, 2013, 03:25 PM
can you read the mcu and see if the keys are in that or the soic8 ive not come across the eldor corp range yet but worth try will upa read it

jset
18th December, 2013, 05:45 PM
i to all
for MP3 the best tool witouht open is :
Scooter immobilizer repair (http://www.immo-tools.lt/en/products/piaggio-gilera-peugeot.htm)

y use and is verry good

rayjay
19th December, 2013, 12:47 AM
i to all
for MP3 the best tool witouht open is :
Scooter immobilizer repair (http://www.immo-tools.lt/en/products/piaggio-gilera-peugeot.htm)

y use and is verry good

this tool can not do this throttle body, Virgis is trying to solve it........ keys are in mcu bga type

autochei
27th December, 2013, 09:11 PM
iea say on future can make

rayjay
28th December, 2013, 09:42 PM
yes of course but nobody has posted any dumps or given any information on these throttle bodies apart from pictures and i do not have one around to play with, even to try and reset....... the makers have not posted any data world wide nor have they responded to emails...

so for time being nada

jset
2nd January, 2014, 06:07 PM
this tool work fine on throttle unit
attached file read read with this tool

rayjay
2nd January, 2014, 08:17 PM
not on eldor unit you are mistaking it,with similar looking magnetti marelli mui......this is what the maker of the scooter tool says regarding this eldor " I wish it would be so easy! There are no external EEPROM in that throttle, keys are definitely stored in the Freescale MCU in BGA packaging. This is MCU from 32-bit Qorivva family. Thanks for your efforts to look for a wiring diagram - I had also no success to find it. Sooner or later ELDOR will be in the list of supported modules in the ASW software, but at the moment it doesn't seem to be easy to make my dreams come true :)

Best Regards

Virgis"

vincent11430
9th June, 2019, 10:30 AM
Hello
did you find a solusion at this time ?
bets regards

no__name
13th April, 2020, 07:10 AM
Hi, sorry for digging up the topic.
On Eldor its a mcu freescale MC908HCQY4 , Orange 5 read this mcu only Rom1 , Rom 2 , and MONO08 .To read flash i must find SS , anyones havs SS or other toys like ELTs toys to hijack SS
Regads Michal.

gueswhat
13th April, 2020, 09:55 AM
this eldor is very hard to make key i have done one by cloning info from a working bike and orginal from dealer whit same ecu and copy the keyfile and duplicate the orgi key and I work on it only way for me
for newer tricks we most waith or do study
but this not a nice bike the eldor type ecu

but there is also iget and thats also a bigproblem eldor wil piagio not make easly in future like mp3 2020 wil be iget no eldor
but iget ecu wil come more and more it looks same as mui3 but is a new type of ecu so start worry whit the newer ecus
also vespa have iget engine now and a new ecu this we most crack because no programmer now supports that

this eldor have many issue trust me !!

no__name
14th April, 2020, 07:25 PM
this eldor is very hard to make key i have done one by cloning info from a working bike and orginal from dealer whit same ecu and copy the keyfile and duplicate the orgi key and I work on it only way for me
for newer tricks we most waith or do study
but this not a nice bike the eldor type ecu

but there is also iget and thats also a bigproblem eldor wil piagio not make easly in future like mp3 2020 wil be iget no eldor
but iget ecu wil come more and more it looks same as mui3 but is a new type of ecu so start worry whit the newer ecus
also vespa have iget engine now and a new ecu this we most crack because no programmer now supports that

this eldor have many issue trust me !!

Hi you have any dump from eldor ?
Now we try read PGt10 and Pgq16 from piaggio /vespa.
Regards Michal.

no__name
9th May, 2020, 09:02 PM
I connect to ktag, but mcu its locked- Micro protection removal filed ( i try read as Marelli FGF Fal,), or choise bad ecu

no__name
17th August, 2020, 08:22 PM
I win with Eldor, from now on I can make any Piaggio Eldor KUBO 0x key, including a hybrid.
THX Virgis for support .
Regards Michal

lion0304
17th August, 2020, 11:26 PM
I win with Eldor, from now on I can make any Piaggio Eldor KUBO 0x key, including a hybrid.
THX Virgis for support .
Regards Michal

So you will help us the key data?

Boras
18th August, 2020, 06:52 AM
Hi,
some progress with PGt10 ?
Boras

no__name
18th August, 2020, 07:34 AM
Hi Boras on this moments - no , i kill one ecu ,and now i try found any PGQ16 or PGT10 .

Boras
18th August, 2020, 11:21 AM
Hi Boras on this moments - no , i kill one ecu ,and now i try found any PGQ16 or PGT10 .

I have one PGT10 for test, I will contact You privately

drugowaz
18th August, 2020, 11:24 AM
Offcourse no :))) he made all job and give solution online?

melississotiris
12th December, 2020, 12:04 PM
hello i have the same problem with a mp3 300 lt ecu eldor kubo.i've lost the master key how can programm the new ecu please if you can help me

no__name
14th December, 2020, 06:38 AM
Hi yes i can program any key or any software on eldor , send you pm.
Regards Michal

bid178678
14th December, 2020, 02:01 PM
Hi yes i can program any key or any software on eldor , send you pm.
Regards Michal
Hello, no name,

Can you contact me for price in mp please.

Olivier

alexxx2982
12th February, 2021, 10:31 AM
[QUOTE = no__name; 3844919] Ciao, scusa per aver scoperto l'argomento.
Su Eldor è un MC908HCQY4 a scala libera, Orange 5 legge questo MCU solo Rom1, Rom 2 e MONO08. Per leggere il flash devo trovare SS, chiunque abbia SS o altri giocattoli come i giocattoli ELT per dirottare SS
Regads Michal. [/ QUOTE]


hi, have pvt message

f2f2
12th February, 2021, 08:46 PM
[QUOTE = no__name; 3844919] Ciao, scusa per aver scoperto l'argomento.
Su Eldor è un MC908HCQY4 a scala libera, Orange 5 legge questo MCU solo Rom1, Rom 2 e MONO08. Per leggere il flash devo trovare SS, chiunque abbia SS o altri giocattoli come i giocattoli ELT per dirottare SS
Regads Michal. [/ QUOTE]


hi, have pvt message

HC908QY4 SS Scan with orange no works. The QY4 SS big problem.

no__name
22nd February, 2021, 12:42 PM
Hi.
I don't remember when I sent you a message, but since then I have defeated Eldor.
Regards, Michał.

Mexic92
1st April, 2021, 04:50 PM
Hy guys, for some days i try to find the pin out from one ecu eldor from piaggio mp3 300, can some one help me? I saw in this forum about this ecu, thnx

f2f2
1st April, 2021, 06:16 PM
Hy guys, for some days i try to find the pin out from one ecu eldor from piaggio mp3 300, can some one help me? I saw in this forum about this ecu, thnx

You contact : no__name from poland

Mexic92
4th April, 2021, 07:42 AM
Yes i already did, but they are very far away from me and i cant send the ecu because it will be very expensive , i will resolve the problem my self with oranje ktag jtag galett everything etc.. and put all the information here so everyone can see this big secret, thnx

owari
8th April, 2021, 06:58 PM
hello

all someone found how to read ? i have same eldor but impossible to read it :'(

no__name
8th April, 2021, 08:05 PM
Its not big secret but you dont uderstund , soms people waste time , to give you solution ;-) ! I send you my price 80 euro+ shiping ,you have money for scooter , not money for work to immo ;-)

owari
8th April, 2021, 11:26 PM
hello no_name, you can share mpc55 pinout ?

Mexic92
10th April, 2021, 10:22 PM
No, he wont share nothing, he want money, i tought forums are for talking and finding solution, not to find clients

no__name
11th April, 2021, 05:52 PM
Hi 5 sec find in google ...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjU2tyK0_bvAhXtgP0HHRIFCt4QFjAAegQIBBAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nxp.com%2Fdocs%2Fen%2Fdata-sheet%2FMPC5533.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1TkNezXpi6Y98FxKnAcVBK

Ok Mexic92 what YOU share ? 5 post about nothing and ?

no__name
11th April, 2021, 05:52 PM
Ok Mexic92 what YOU share ? 5 post about nothing and ?

owari
11th April, 2021, 08:11 PM
hello no_name , i ask about pinout pcb not from BGA chip pin out , i know that this information is in google. But we need PCB PIN OUT . If you can share thanks .

Mexic92
12th April, 2021, 09:06 PM
Hello owari ,i have the pin out from the pcb, j tag,j comp tdi , tck , tms, tdo, vdd33, vcc gnd everthing you need to read this ecu on bdm pins that are near the ecu, i think you need a 14 pin j tag to read it, but today i got the pin out from the pcb and in a few days when i have time i tri to read it, who wants the pin out contact me in private and i can give you

Mexic92
12th April, 2021, 09:17 PM
No name, dont worry,:)) i have money, i have time , the pin out from the pcb is here:) and give to every one who needs help, and when i have some free time i will try to read it, i tell you that the eldor that i want to do i will not use it, the mp3 has another ecu and runs fine

owari
12th April, 2021, 11:19 PM
thanks mexic92 i see you on MP :)

coti32coti32pif
13th April, 2021, 07:26 PM
No name, dont worry,:)) i have money, i have time , the pin out from the pcb is here:) and give to every one who needs help, and when i have some free time i will try to read it, i tell you that the eldor that i want to do i will not use it, the mp3 has another ecu and runs fine
Mexic92 I am interested to also for a read solution... Please share... This Eldor gate me crazy

Mexic92
13th April, 2021, 08:30 PM
You have pm, with the pin out from pcb, when i have time to try to read it i tell you how to read it, and where is the code key, i just want one bear:) thanks to somen one on this forum i have all the programers and we will make eldor

Mexic92
24th April, 2021, 07:22 PM
Today i had time for eldor, the eldor is defeated , i can make keys afor every eldor every kub who wants advises and wich programer, or for the pinout you can writte me in private, i can give free advises, or who wants to make one key i can make it for free if you pay the shiping

emilio68
26th April, 2021, 06:15 AM
Hi.
Good JOB for Eldor , i have 3 pcs .
Send me info pls ab ELDOR ,any wiring diagram , ecu pinout, and what software you use to make TP.


Emilio .

Mexic92 pm box it`s full.

ali re
28th April, 2021, 02:29 PM
Hi mexic92,
your pm is full, i need the Eldor ecu pinout too, and how to read it
thanks.

supremeauto
11th May, 2022, 02:23 AM
does anyone have a solution for piaggio medley ecu from iget engine

f2f2
12th May, 2022, 09:06 AM
does anyone have a solution for piaggio medley ecu from iget engine

Show good ECU photo

motorbike59
1st July, 2022, 04:47 PM
usa questo strumento 897667

54321
25th July, 2022, 11:08 AM
usa questo strumento 897667
Does this tool work with PGQ16, all keys lost?