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ruffles1986
10th December, 2013, 09:55 PM
Hello, i try to read SAGEM Mcu BZ1012 (NEC uPD780973) from Peugeot 307, with upa usb in test board, but i cant do it...
Always have baudrate capture error....

Can any help me?
Thanks in advance

drahtman
10th December, 2013, 10:06 PM
You can do it with old DIGA ...

ruffles1986
10th December, 2013, 10:17 PM
any do it this with UPA?? is possible?

88diablo
10th December, 2013, 10:32 PM
Do you have genuine UPA and NEC adaptor or clone?

ruffles1986
10th December, 2013, 10:35 PM
Do you have genuine UPA and NEC adaptor or clone?
I have clone UPA, not work on NEC Mcu?

88diablo
10th December, 2013, 10:45 PM
I dont have clone UPA so dont know but I was just trying some things to eliminate for you and if you got clone then I would start there.

ruffles1986
10th December, 2013, 10:57 PM
Do you have genuine UPA and NEC adaptor or clone?
I have clone UPA, not work on NEC Mcu?

Thanks mate, if you have any idea... The clone is a goog quality from Carsung, but is a clone...
If is a problem with 78KO adapter on UPA clones then there are not a solution for this adapter?? On forum not information about problem with adapter (at least I have not seen)

88diablo
10th December, 2013, 11:46 PM
I dont have clone UPA so cant comment but for this car I use cheap chinese programmer which also does algo for you. I dont buy from these people in link but my people dont have it on their site anymore as is old so I post you this link to show you what to buy. I think I,ve seen them on FleaBay cheaper than this too. NEC DASHBOARD PROGRAMMER (http://www.ecutool.com/NEC-DASHBOARD-PROGRAMMER_106.html)

ruffles1986
11th December, 2013, 12:01 AM
I dont have clone UPA so cant comment but for this car I use cheap chinese programmer which also does algo for you. I dont buy from these people in link but my people dont have it on their site anymore as is old so I post you this link to show you what to buy. I think I,ve seen them on FleaBay cheaper than this too. NEC DASHBOARD PROGRAMMER (http://www.ecutool.com/NEC-DASHBOARD-PROGRAMMER_106.html)
i already see that programmer for now is my option if upa not work.
And about this any can said something?? http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f174/how-read-upd780973-upa-help-174563/

autocargo
11th December, 2013, 12:05 AM
Clone UPA and adapter working good with NEC. I've done a few (in circuit)... Did you remove jumper J3 from NEC adapter? That was my first mistake when I used first time.

ruffles1986
11th December, 2013, 12:16 AM
Clone UPA and adapter working good with NEC. I've done a few (in circuit)... Did you remove jumper J3 from NEC adapter? That was my first mistake when I used first time.

Yes mate, with J3 clossed i have problem with Low voltage, with J3 Open Baudrate error. Have you pinout for power up this Dash??
PEUGEOT 307
Dashboard SAGEM T5-1
TDB KMH DIES BVM
21655303-8 X5
11-2-03
V16.01

Thanks

autocargo
11th December, 2013, 12:23 AM
Sorry mate... I don't have pinout... To read I followed pictures found here on forum and UPA's own PDF instruction and all worked out well...

ruffles1986
11th December, 2013, 12:32 AM
Sorry mate... I don't have pinout... To read I followed pictures found here on forum and UPA's own PDF instruction and all worked out well...
I found pinout and After power up needles move to position, oil level blink few swconds, and some lights are on, gauge and stop light are blinking, but km not are showed
May be kill Nec MCU?

MACKIE
11th December, 2013, 12:35 AM
Why you powered up dash ? Did you read MCU ? Upa work great with NEC mcu ...not sure for clone but original work online and on adapter....

Regards
Mackie

autocargo
11th December, 2013, 12:41 AM
Not sure about this one... Never powered this one on table. Not showing even for a second? Maybe works only on vehicle together with bsi... Wish I could help you more... :blue:

ruffles1986
11th December, 2013, 12:58 AM
Why you powered up dash ? Did you read MCU ? Upa work great with NEC mcu ...not sure for clone but original work online and on adapter....

Regards
Mackie
Mate i power up dash because i'm thinking the Mcu is dead, normally when power up can see kilometers, but in this dash i'm not sure,can you confirm that? never do one of this with Nec processor. Today try on board adapter, tomorrow i will try to connect direct on PCB

ruffles1986
11th December, 2013, 01:00 AM
Not sure about this one... Never powered this one on table. Not showing even for a second? Maybe works only on vehicle together with bsi... Wish I could help you more... :blue:

Is possible need BSI to show km, but i don't know

MACKIE
11th December, 2013, 01:03 AM
This dashboard have CAN communication with BSI why dont you put back in the car and see what you have done...

Regards
Mackie

ruffles1986
11th December, 2013, 01:22 AM
This dashboard have CAN communication with BSI why dont you put back in the car and see what you have done...

Regards
Mackie
For now BSI was already modified, the car is not in my garage. I will try to do tomorrow Dash, if not work then i must go to the car and connect again

ruffles1986
11th December, 2013, 12:59 PM
Today i connect direct on PCB and same problem... baudrate error. For now i follow steps by NYO4, but viewing Tachosoft solution i see that BSI Valeo with 68HC912DG128 is only necessary modify data from BSI.
Instruction: read the 68HC912DG128 chip from the BSI (Valeo), and
edit the mileage as shown here. Then connect dash to the connectors .
on the car WITHOUT the BSI. Put the key to the ignition, but do not start!!!
just power on the dash. Dash value will self deletes.
After this connect the BSI and km value will be automatically loaded from BSI to dash.

Sombody can confirm if this work??

MACKIE
11th December, 2013, 03:01 PM
On some cars it work on some dont...


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ruffles1986
11th December, 2013, 05:52 PM
On some cars it work on some dont...


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Thanks mate i like to try this option

nikostzimis
22nd December, 2013, 05:50 PM
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I did it and it worked 100/100


fOR ALL

nikostzimis
22nd December, 2013, 06:23 PM
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I did it and it worked 100/100


fOR ALL

ruffles1986
22nd December, 2013, 07:13 PM
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I did it and it worked 100/100


fOR ALL

Can you upload a picture of 78k0 Adapter for see value of resistors? i need to know the value for resistor R34, i think some component are wrong in my 78k0 Adapter.
Thanks

autocargo
22nd December, 2013, 10:04 PM
I belive R34 on my adapter is marked 01C = 10 KOhm

nikostzimis
23rd December, 2013, 05:09 PM
Check link and read!

nikostzimis
23rd December, 2013, 06:23 PM
clone ADAPTOR upa 78HC912
It works perfectly the nec, mcu .check the cables carefully. not see colors!! ONLY connection!!!!!! attention

GOOD LUCK

ilyas1012
10th November, 2019, 05:04 PM
HI PLEASE NUMBER FOR EATCH CONNECTION . THANKS