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ray-ray
28th December, 2013, 06:44 AM
Looking for a new tool sold in the uk used to program pfc79xxx . Here in the USA there re badging the unit and will be release soon as a tool to unlock pfc79xxx. There is no desoldering
needed all is done via rf . Who has the info to share? I know the zed full has these opition but cost is too high and iffy company. My pm is clear if you need to share in private. Thanks for your help!
obdsystems
28th December, 2013, 11:36 AM
Share/PM me too please!! :) thanks :)
autofan1965
28th December, 2013, 01:42 PM
Zedfull can do it with scan? Or any other way?
paul_12345
28th December, 2013, 04:00 PM
Looking for a new tool sold in the uk used to program pfc79xxx . Here in the USA there re badging the unit and will be release soon as a tool to unlock pfc79xxx. There is no desoldering
needed all is done via rf . Who has the info to share? I know the zed full has these opition but cost is too high and iffy company. My pm is clear if you need to share in private. Thanks for your help!
saying pcf79xx implies it does all pcf79xx does this programmer do all??
or you mean like like the zedfull "Some of the Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep remotes(with big buttons), Suzuki PCF7936 and Honda remotes which have PCF7961"
ray-ray
28th December, 2013, 05:14 PM
Does all family pcf79xxx
paul_12345
28th December, 2013, 05:17 PM
Does all family pcf79xxx
well can't be on sale anywhere yet as this would be big news especially in Europe with remotes that use pcf7941 that can't be reused and would also mean keys could be cloned without car (unless is destroys data when unlocking)
rideon
28th December, 2013, 05:29 PM
ray-ray (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/96078-ray-ray/) http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/statusicon_blue/user-online.png
Seems that you know more about this tool than everyone around here,just wondering if you seen one in action how long it takes to "unlock" pcf
MarkPRP
29th December, 2013, 03:46 PM
Look for a guy called Alex in W.London
reks13
30th December, 2013, 06:59 AM
Good joke :)
ray-ray
1st January, 2014, 03:07 AM
237409No joke look here, or just stay asleep.
paul_12345
1st January, 2014, 04:35 AM
you would have to be crazy to buy at that price, this should be so easy to copy.. I'm sure it wont be long before Russian or EU etc tools pop up for a few thousand then before too long 200 dollar china versions.
912secured
1st January, 2014, 04:57 AM
As long as crypto does not change ie ,nissan etc. Will not work with ones that change crypto like chryslers or renault or fiat forget which one live in us. The China clones 4d is easy use data from silca 20gig compress under 8. 7936 with same crypto are easy ones that change the asian cheap units can not do. The silca and most 7936's can be done in software. Ones that change need 4gigs to unlock, can be done quick with right grafics cards, but can only go as fast as chip can take. Any company that makes a device that can generate a key for 7936 can unlock, some can only be reused in same type because some areas are locked. Some after markey keys do not lock like factory and could be used in total different car.7936's are only 2 bucks. So I think this is more 7941 plus. Must be cheap keys from china are drying up. If Keyless rides and others did not sell 12 dollar autokeys.us for 114 we would not be having this problem.
912secured
1st January, 2014, 05:07 AM
A person for a major university told me it can and has been done. The auto makers keep it under what ever the government put on inport export crypto forget 96 or 128 so they have no problems. Clonable 48's for right now the 7 security bytes are just like unlocking them. When vw,audi,skoda,porshe started randomizing them someone hacked it but forced not to disclose (heard it pretty easy no long files 3 logs from legit clone can be made and randome time with the key will spill the beans less than 20 mins lap top). Think they pulled their government connections so they did not need a meg 80.
912secured
1st January, 2014, 05:08 AM
If everyone posted the known 7936 non changing crypto's it would be nice.
ray-ray
1st January, 2014, 05:26 AM
That's peso not dollars cost about $2,600.00 us .Russian tool cost about $1,600.00 plus add on.
912secured
1st January, 2014, 01:57 PM
Watch the zed bull add it over internet or on there new one. They used others decoders on a server back in the day. Still do not know why they wanted 1000 bucks to clone 4d added inside when pc could of held data. You can not trust even the real machines. Thats why I keep clones on truck and only use originals when needed except for my tango and 884. People are driving 100 miles or more making keys for 100 bucks when hardware store clones for 85 and they do it all day long.
keysmith
2nd January, 2014, 05:44 AM
Here is a link to the company that makes it and a video of the tool in action.
PAM website (http://www.pam.bz/?id=videos)
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Master01
2nd January, 2014, 12:20 PM
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paul_12345
2nd January, 2014, 03:41 PM
At this moment, this tool can unlock only Chrysler and Dodge keys!
and not via rf but test leads
looks like they just ripped off orange 5 ???
912secured
3rd January, 2014, 12:30 AM
Figured it could be done insuit if crystal line was cut and or machine modded to work with the 315, and 433's. I redid my remotes with a new chip and matching us remote data for back. I would not want to do them for 9 or 10 bucks apeice, unless had a sweat shop if some people wanted 300 and so done. 1 shell 2 chip, wick, low melt solder low melt rework station and the fastest I ever did one was 6 minute. Relaxing watching tv 20 to 30 apeice.
ray-ray
26th February, 2014, 08:07 AM
Ok tool came in pcf7941 unlocks 4 style of FCC:kob,oth,m3n,m3n72 via 4 wire connection. Tool works plus many other things testing all opition. Price was 2k out of Mexico better price out of Russia $1,500.00 but hard to get. No manual or support. Tool came in with no package, 1 main unit 2 cable,1 usb cable is what you get. Did about 100 unlock in about 2.5 hrs. Tool works good. Test the unlock of Kia/Hyundai proxy fob via brute force.
aassfour
26th February, 2014, 11:38 AM
Ok tool came in pcf7941 unlocks 4 style of FCC:kob,oth,m3n,m3n72 via 4 wire connection. Tool works plus many other things testing all opition. Price was 2k out of Mexico better price out of Russia $1,500.00 but hard to get. No manual or support. Tool came in with no package, 1 main unit 2 cable,1 usb cable is what you get. Did about 100 unlock in about 2.5 hrs. Tool works good. Test the unlock of Kia/Hyundai proxy fob via brute force.
which ID can it unlock ? or only Chrysler ?
Demetrius
26th February, 2014, 03:41 PM
It does not do the "entire" pcf79xx family.
Ray, can you explain your Hyundai / Kia prox statement?
indienick
26th February, 2014, 03:52 PM
It is absolutely 100% impossible to RF unlock entire PCF79xx family.
Demetrius
26th February, 2014, 04:02 PM
I see what you mean ray. Did you get it to work?
ray-ray
26th February, 2014, 04:26 PM
Got it to work on chrysler so far pfc7941 with FCC: kob, oth, m3n72 (Pacifica system) and m3n fobic. All is working know trying the brute force on Kia/ Hyundai over nite. It also has honda unlock and 48 still testing.also have orange 5 to unlock and mk3 is much better. Mk3 has 4 wire +,-,pin10&11 data line positive and negative goes onto the battery placement. Orange has 5wire 10,11,4,15,19
ray-ray
26th February, 2014, 07:01 PM
Mk3 is being rebadge here the usa & lic. and call (iclone key).
indienick
26th February, 2014, 07:12 PM
Mk3 is being rebadge here the usa & lic. and call (iclone key).
can you supply a link please?
912secured
2nd March, 2014, 01:30 AM
Working on a pic to just change password and write all 00 00 00's buy jumping a pin high had to make password change to all 00 00's with that one because when it came time to write it would change password. As long as it stayed all 00 00's it was fine. Did it on a 12c508 have a 150 left from back in the day. Can do rest on a hightag reader via rf. Not going to release so no one losses money. Did for a proof of concept. A basic stamp kit worked well also.
Demetrius
2nd March, 2014, 06:43 AM
From what I hear, this tool cannot be updated if purchased from Mexico.248166248167
I have attached a letter from Pam Devices, that was found on a different forum.
The device is called the iKeyClone in the USA. You can purchase it from Intelligent Key Solutions, phone number 1(512)271-1111 There is a website coming soon, at iKeyClone.com
Also a tech support forum and sales at IntelligentKeySolutions.com as this company is going thru a major cross over it will be approx 2 weeks before both of these are up to full speed.
PS the brute force technique it has for the Kia and Hyundai is not for the proximity. This is for European and Asian markets where the key locks prior to prox. Hope this shines some light. Also the tool from these guys comes with dummy proof adapters where circuit board can be dropped in only facing one direction and makes contact with all points, no clips necessary. Picture of the small panic button adapter is in the picture in the letter. The tool plus basic SW and small panic adapter / fobik trap door adapter/ and wire adapter is $2300.00USD248168
vitimax
11th May, 2014, 07:43 PM
MKIII is very good device. I use it for unlock PCF7941 in Chrysler remote keys and fobiks.
Made in Ukraine, place of origin. iKeyClone is brand for USA sales.
keysmith
11th May, 2014, 10:54 PM
MKIII is very good device. I use it for unlock PCF7941 in Chrysler remote keys and fobiks.
Made in Ukraine, place of origin. iKeyClone is brand for USA sales.
Where did you buy yours from and how much?
vitimax
12th May, 2014, 04:38 AM
Where did you buy yours from and how much?
There is website - http://www.pam.bz/?id=masterkey
Skype: oleh.podhayny
Email: elteks@ukr.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRJMVircpVw&feature=youtu.be
garryreed
21st January, 2016, 07:03 PM
what has happened to this tool ?? only seems to be available in america now the pam web site has no contact details does anyone know if it is still available in russia?
paul_12345
21st January, 2016, 07:21 PM
what has happened to this tool ?? only seems to be available in america now the pam web site has no contact details does anyone know if it is still available in russia?
Well probably wont be long for xhorse vvdi prog to have all the remotes that this has got and much cheaper!
dustin2014
21st January, 2016, 10:01 PM
what has happened to this tool ?? only seems to be available in america now the pam web site has no contact details does anyone know if it is still available in russia?
Chinese sellers have it now.
parlando
22nd January, 2016, 08:34 AM
just have unlock porshe smart keys with MK3 . soon will be available audi BCM2 smart keys.
can unlock BMW smart keys. on today its F series and E series.
the grate thing of it, thet you can order unlocker for your own priority. just contact with Oleg from UA
lock217
23rd January, 2016, 02:12 PM
well seems many selling this tool now
cant wait for china to copy it..
evem china seller selling it..wait for it, in this moment someone is trying to crack it ")
paul_12345
23rd January, 2016, 11:38 PM
what china sellers have got it?
dustin2014
24th January, 2016, 01:57 AM
A few of them have it because every time I've been on social media recently I see them pushing it in other forums. Not sure if I can post a link here.
Highly priced too. At that sort of money they're charging I'd rather buy it from the original source.
neverquiet
29th January, 2016, 04:25 AM
Is the IkeyClone Basic able to unlock Toyota Smart? or only with upgrade Toyota Software?
Locker
29th January, 2016, 06:04 AM
Is the IkeyClone Basic able to unlock Toyota Smart? or only with upgrade Toyota Software?
I am in the process of "trying to buy" the Ikeyclone, and I am 99% sure you cannot unlock Toyota smart without buying the specific module.
With the Base Software you will be able to unlock Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep Remote Head Keys, except the ones that end in 13AA. You will also be able to unlock the M3N "Trap Door" Fobiks. Any other Fobs/Keys that you want to unlock, you would need to purchase the corresponding Software and Adapter, if applicable.
Can anyone update us on the status and functionality of the IkeyClone? It is not a cheap unit to buy
I am looking to unlock BMW cas3 and cas4 (E series and F series) basicly.
For the future I will be happy to add Land Rover, Audi, Nissan
I noticed they don't mention Nissan or Audi (smart key Q5) or Land Rover (flip 2007+)....so I am wondering what tool would i need for those??
ray-ray
29th January, 2016, 04:25 PM
Good luck getting any updates with USA distributer. He will sell you the basic unit but will never sell you last updates. American key supplies sell that unit and also unlock service. But can not get the rest of the unlocking function so he is dropping it off his web site. Going to try buy direct from Pam website.
autochei
31st January, 2016, 08:42 PM
allready i bought mk3 form remkeys(ahmet gunduz) i use to make a transponder for mercedes a class was very fast in comparison avdi ori.
i used for psa and opel and again very good
Locker
1st February, 2016, 04:56 AM
Good luck getting any updates with USA distributer. He will sell you the basic unit but will never sell you last updates. American key supplies sell that unit and also unlock service. But can not get the rest of the unlocking function so he is dropping it off his web site. Going to try buy direct from Pam website.
Already I am having a hard time to get in touch with USA dist, very slow to reply to emails and queries.
I will try to get in touch with Remkeys...any idea if prices are the same everywhere? (approximately)
What about the unlock for Nissan smart keys and Audi ones?
kemaster
1st February, 2016, 11:03 AM
New offer for Feb. Buy MK3 and get all keymaker softs for free. Wonder, how far are China Sellers to release a copy of it.
paul_12345
1st February, 2016, 11:19 AM
New offer for Feb. Buy MK3 and get all keymaker softs for free. Wonder, how far are China Sellers to release a copy of it.
keymakers free not unlock pcf7941 options etc
kemaster
1st February, 2016, 01:04 PM
Yes, Paul. I didn't say they do.:)
Locker
2nd February, 2016, 04:24 AM
New offer for Feb. Buy MK3 and get all keymaker softs for free. Wonder, how far are China Sellers to release a copy of it.
who's offering that?
kemaster
2nd February, 2016, 08:33 AM
who's offering that?
Remkeys :) .
autochei
2nd February, 2016, 07:24 PM
as u know mk3 can reuse 7941 but in some key like insignia astra J or cruz can be pcf 7937
my question it s can be reuse 7937? like 7941?
because today i have e kocked remote from cruz i make it re use mk3 show me first time acces ok i read it again with mk3 and show me acces failled
then i read it with zedbull and show me unlocked
stevan
20th May, 2016, 09:36 PM
can remkey reset 7941(astra h for example) to be again ready to add on other Astra H car or it just erase 7941 on blank factory state?
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rm23
20th May, 2016, 10:22 PM
can remkey reset 7941(astra h for example) to be again ready to add on other Astra H car or it just erase 7941 on blank factory state?
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after reset key is ready to program and remote will work as well...
autochei
20th May, 2016, 10:33 PM
can remkey reset 7941(astra h for example) to be again ready to add on other Astra H car or it just erase 7941 on blank factory state?
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that all it s tested by my gm and psa all was ok and in the last update i see option for renault card megan 3 and clio 4
PCF79xx Refresh Firmware Downloader: RENAULT 805673071R (Remote Key 2Btn, 433MHz, Hitag-AES, chip marking:2244706)
- PCF79xx Refresh Firmware Downloader: RENAULT 285975779R (Comfort Access Card, 433MHz, chip marking:049621C03)
- PCF79xx Refresh Firmware Downloader: RENAULT 285971998R (Comfort Access Card, 433MHz, Hitag-AES, chip marking:F7953MC2200)
- PCF79xx Refresh Firmware Downloader: RENAULT 285974100R (Remote Card, 433MHz, Hitag-AES, chip marking:F7945MC2200)
stevan
21st May, 2016, 02:08 PM
anyone have price list?
i have search but not found on www
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paul_12345
21st May, 2016, 02:12 PM
anyone have price list?
i have search but not found on www
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you need deep pockets!!
Ecutool / superobd are selling this now, you can look at superobd website for a pricelist.
Also I see the prices for astra H for example have already started falling because of MK3 so even harder to jusify MK3 hopefully VVDI get a move on and offer more unlocking options.
stevan
21st May, 2016, 07:26 PM
1800usd main unit+activation bmw e serie 1200usd,simply too much,3000usd.
china bmw key 12-15 usd.
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autochei
22nd May, 2016, 10:12 AM
1800usd main unit+activation bmw e serie 1200usd,simply too much,3000usd.
china bmw key 12-15 usd.
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u can t make compare oem key bmw with china bmw
dijo
22nd May, 2016, 12:43 PM
guys, W/O any offence but function of this tool and price don?t have any relation...
or you have every day one key to reuse...:rolleyes:
ray-ray
22nd May, 2016, 08:25 PM
I bought mine 4years ago with Chrysler only kob,oht,m3n,. Paid 2,000.00
stevan
23rd May, 2016, 08:54 AM
u can t make compare oem key bmw with china bmw
Of course not,but China key work ok and so far not have complains.
Locker
23rd May, 2016, 06:19 PM
Tool is pricey, it lacks user manual, which make it very hard to use.
It is also supposed to be able to program BMW cas4 remotes into cars by dump, but no one seems to have ever done it.
gurmk
6th June, 2016, 01:13 PM
On offer on Facebook, complete with all software $5,000 + shipping
paul_12345
6th June, 2016, 01:24 PM
On offer on Facebook, complete with all software $5,000 + shipping
I bet... seeing how every tool is doing the toyota unlock now, and vvdi prog has bmw.
kemaster
6th June, 2016, 03:42 PM
Maybe soon we will see something like that from Scorpio-lk;).
paul_12345
6th June, 2016, 03:46 PM
Maybe soon we will see something like that from Scorpio-lk;).
I have no clue why condor will not just buy a mkIII and then get all the firmwares from it.
Locker
7th June, 2016, 11:50 AM
lol Imagine how disapointed will be the people who bought it for 10000 + $ last month! I bet in 2 months it will be on offer for even less.
But seriously....a 5000$ + loss for anyone who bought it before the offer! Tool makers should support their clients....Mk3 is just scr****g them
Gizbern
21st August, 2016, 08:55 PM
I like to buy Orange 5 or Mk3
Can I reset all PCF7941 by Orange 5 or Mk3???
Thanks
janake
22nd August, 2016, 04:01 AM
anyone have price list?
i have search but not found on www
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price list from china seller. Price US$1,999, at that price,it won't be clone?
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Gizbern
23rd August, 2016, 06:22 PM
I look for good programmer for PCF7941
Somebody can help?
Thanks
paul_12345
23rd August, 2016, 08:42 PM
I look for good programmer for PCF7941
Somebody can help?
Thanks
you have not got the firmware.. so at the minute its MKIII which full package is 5000 USD and does still not cover all pcf.
autochei
24th August, 2016, 09:07 AM
you have not got the firmware.. so at the minute its MKIII which full package is 5000 USD and does still not cover all pcf.
mk3 i think it s dead because no update nothing over 5 month
paul_12345
24th August, 2016, 09:21 AM
mk3 i think it s dead because no update nothing over 5 month
I very much doubt it considering their prices, only a few people have to buy each pcf module and they have covered their cost... but if vvdi prog get a move on then I would imagine MKIII will be dead soon after.
TERMINATOR1000
31st January, 2017, 05:51 PM
How do Chinese seller to use pcf7941 in Laguna 2 / Megane cards, these cards are renamed pcf7947 with hitag2 reader !!!!
Who has the secret ?
425149
paul_12345
31st January, 2017, 06:26 PM
How do Chinese seller to use pcf7941 in Laguna 2 / Megane cards, these cards are renamed pcf7947 with hitag2 reader !!!!
Who has the secret ?
425149
They change the ID which changes the type... even if you did this it is no use as they also have to flash the firmware to firmware that simulates the remote part of pcf7947.
TERMINATOR1000
31st January, 2017, 07:24 PM
They change the ID which changes the type... even if you did this it is no use as they also have to flash the firmware to firmware that simulates the remote part of pcf7947.
I know ... !
But what is the tool to it ?
one pcf7947 price = two pcf7941 ...
Cromwe11
31st January, 2017, 07:48 PM
I know ... !
But what is the tool to it ?
one pcf7947 price = two pcf7941 ...
Do you really think it's worth all the trouble to save ?2 a chip? Even if you do change the I'd and the firmware, What are you going to use them for? Using them to virginis a $10 Chinese Renault card of dubious quality seems a little pointless.
TERMINATOR1000
31st January, 2017, 08:14 PM
Do you really think it's worth all the trouble to save ?2 a chip? Even if you do change the I'd and the firmware, What are you going to use them for? Using them to virginis a $10 Chinese Renault card of dubious quality seems a little pointless.
The future is a universal NXP 20 SOP , and a tool to program the firmware !
This tool we need it now :excitement:
This tool we need it now
paul_12345
31st January, 2017, 08:37 PM
I know ... !
But what is the tool to it ?
one pcf7947 price = two pcf7941 ...
There is no tool available that can do what you want.... maybe VVDI key tool will add megane pcf4941 firmware so you can renew these.... but as already stated these cards are sh*te anyway
jhonyelectron
6th February, 2018, 07:46 AM
i have a tool of simon touch SRK tool !!! its very good tool !!!
ciprishor
9th April, 2019, 01:42 PM
Anyone tried this cheap Chinese tool?
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1HhL_aIfrK1RkSmLyq6xGApXaT/Vdiagtool-2019-MK3-Key-Renew-Device-Key-Tool-Transponder-Key-Programming-Tool-With-Full-Remote-Key.jpg_q50.jpg
rob h
9th April, 2019, 02:08 PM
Why not buy a decent programmer.
And use the free files,
ciprishor
9th April, 2019, 02:20 PM
I just need it for one job. If it works it is decent to me.
ciprishor
12th April, 2019, 06:24 PM
So anyone has used this tool. I did not find any reviews about it on the Internet. Is it fake or not?
P&D
13th April, 2019, 07:32 PM
what key do you need unlocking ?
lion0304
14th April, 2019, 01:12 AM
Anyone tried this cheap Chinese tool?
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1HhL_aIfrK1RkSmLyq6xGApXaT/Vdiagtool-2019-MK3-Key-Renew-Device-Key-Tool-Transponder-Key-Programming-Tool-With-Full-Remote-Key.jpg_q50.jpg
This Chinese tool ripped off from MK3 remote unlock function.
And until now, no any feedback
ciprishor
14th April, 2019, 08:38 AM
I need it to unlock Dacia 2 button with PCF7961, Hitag AES.
marinescuv
14th April, 2019, 08:57 AM
for dacia hitag aes key is 30 eu oe
ciprishor
14th April, 2019, 09:00 AM
I have many.
P&D
14th April, 2019, 07:51 PM
This works great.........https://www.ebay.com/itm/PCF-programmer-PCFprog-/302564492244
castin
15th April, 2019, 08:00 AM
This works great.........https://www.ebay.com/itm/PCF-programmer-PCFprog-/302564492244
Im confirm - simple and easy. PCF file need....
redliner
26th May, 2019, 03:44 PM
Hi everyone
I bought 2019 Mk3 key renew from AliExpress seller and it doesn't work at all. Was speaking with dealer but I think they have not idea what they selling. In my opinion this is fake product to cheat customers or poor developed. Thank God I was able to get my money back. I read some feedback are similare "write error". This message come out stright after pressing Write button - even no progress bar.
Does anyone has this tool and can say if it's working ?
P&D
26th May, 2019, 11:09 PM
What keys are you trying to unlock ?
If using the MK3 PDF yellow & green wrong way round
redliner
29th May, 2019, 03:04 PM
What keys are you trying to unlock ?
If using the MK3 PDF yellow & green wrong way round
I tried on a Flip PUG 3 button remote, Vauxhall 2 button and other.
I have mk3 instruction downloaded from internet but seller supplied their own connection diagram and looks the same but with China writings.
I tried to swap colours and not working.
P&D
29th May, 2019, 05:57 PM
Are we talking about PCF Prog ?
Just saw you post MK3 Clone
Could be anything from USB driver,software my mates got one & works ok but bot as good as PCFProg
Mmotul
7th October, 2021, 04:03 PM
Hello
I have this China renew tool. A renewed a lot of Renault cards, keyless PCF7953.
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