SOLUTION FOR NEWER EZS AND ESL WITH NEC INSIDE.

[bali motor]

There are several solutions to this problem. but incomplete solution!!!!!!!.
1: From MBE group. this just soft update : NEC KEY Programmer v. 11
need buy necprog price: 2400 - 3000 EUR.
this software can read ezs for data key, and read password from key ( ver 51 or ver 57)
so if loss keys this soft can not do.... and if problem EZS this soft can not fix it.
(RESULT: THIS SOFT JUST WORK FOR MAKE SPARE KEYS.. NEED KEY WORKED)
THIS LINK: Equipment (http://www.noimmo.lt/equipment/params/184/)


2: From mercedes instument.. this soft have 3 version..
1: soft for work read dump key. with keys ver 57
price: ?2 700.00
this link: ??????? - Mercedes Instrument (http://mercedesinstrument.com/catalog/#!/~/product/category=3040229&id=32479083)
2: soft for read abd write for ezs data but need password from key. and this can renew esl if know password
price: ?3 000.00
this link: ??????? - Mercedes Instrument (http://mercedesinstrument.com/catalog/#!/~/product/category=3040229&id=32479130)
3: this soft can do for keyless-go fungtion.
price: ?1 350.00
(RESULT: THIS SOFT CAN REPAIR EZS AND ESL MUST HAVE WORKED KEY)

3: soft NEC_PRO 57 i think this soft from Startmen? | ezs24.de (http://www.ezs24.de)
this show on youtube
02 NEC programmer Step 2 Aktivated ESL W204 W212 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUgCnxg1kHA)
01 NEC programmer Step1 W204 Renew and write ESL - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1L2v9Z4WTg)
this soft will work need worked key... for get password.
price : ?15 000.00
(RESULT: THIS SOFT CAN REPAIR EZS AND EZS MUST NEED HAVE WORKED KEY)


I THINK THAT SOFT CAN DO FOR EZS NEWER VERSION WITH NEC INSIDE.... BUT ALL SOFT NOT WORK ON CASE LOSS OF KEY.

YOU CAN CHOOSE, WHERE THE BEST

ANYONE HAVE MORE INFO ABOUT SOLUTION FOR NEW EZS, POST HERE

(manual programmer exist on each web)

[ninja123]

A complete solution WITH FULL INSTRUCTIONS IN ENGLISH would be most welcome, I await responses too.

ninja

[bali motor]

I have chat with Volodymyr from ezs24.de... him sell soft with hardware nec_pro 57.... price 10.000 euro.

they have solution if loss all key... need change new ezs ..
read data (hash) key from old ezs and write to new ezs... no need password for do if ezs is new

[MarkPRP]

Ninja, Complete solution in 10 years maybe...

[aassfour]

most reliable solution is the first one from NOIMMO.

[bali motor]

I have order one of the three programmer..
will notify the result, after I received it.

[bali motor]

necpro57 from ezs24.com
mercedesinstrument
key less prog from mehaco

base software is same.... that soft have solution for renew ezs and esl need password from key v57

nec keyprog ver 11
IR key programmer & IR service key from efficip
this soft same base software... just do spare key, need password from key v57.

[bali motor]

My conclusion ...
there are only two types of software to perform new EZS type..
1, software can read ezs by IR and CAN BUS ( socket or obd) and then this software can renew ezs and esl by can bus, use password for reset..
2, software can read ezs by IR and and calc key. so this soft can not repair ezs or esl

most sellers only modify

anyone who has purchased this software, please share your experiences here.
whether it works well or not.

[aassfour]

i will place an order soon with MBkeyprog the only reason is that i trust their products and i know they wont fail me, now and for the future

[bali motor]

share experiences if anyone has used it.


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[reks13]

I made key for mers 2009 by existing key with rom v57 with mercedes instrument, very fast and easy, 20 minutes.

[bali motor]

I have order now...


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[obdmaster]

I have order now...


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Which one you ordered m8??:joyous:

[bali motor]

Mercedesinstument.
From alexey


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[MarkPRP]

I now have Mbkeyprog evo!

it does exactly what it says it can and also has it's own calculator for the key files and takes 4seconds to make a file which saves time on the 10 minute wait of skc!

However, if you can't make a key the "old fashioned " way then it's not worth having as 6 out of 10 jobs won't have the correct 57 key or no keys...I used it once today out of 5 jobs !

[aassfour]

I now have Mbkeyprog evo!

it does exactly what it says it can and also has it's own calculator for the key files and takes 4seconds to make a file which saves time on the 10 minute wait of skc!

However, if you can't make a key the "old fashioned " way then it's not worth having as 6 out of 10 jobs won't have the correct 57 key or no keys...I used it once today out of 5 jobs !
what u mean 6 out of 10 wont have the correct 57 ? most keys ater 2001 are either 51 or 57 and EVO can do both of them , and yes it doesnt do the all key lost , neither the other tool but there is a way to get around of this and make keys

[bali motor]

If they still have the original key of the new car is probably still version 57
if the customer has purchased the key at the dealer. it will be the latest version.

i think that is problem

[agabna]

Hello
Yes most of these cars have new keys 212
so you ll need some equipment to read
all the keys from the factory after 2010 are new keys

[MarkPRP]

what u mean 6 out of 10 wont have the correct 57 ? most keys ater 2001 are either 51 or 57 and EVO can do both of them , and yes it doesnt do the all key lost , neither the other tool but there is a way to get around of this and make keys

I do 20 Mercedes keys a week, and I can tell you I see more 061/40Rom keys than I do with 51/57 rom.. How many have you seen aassfour?

Bali, Yes if the car has had a new key in its life high chances are its a 57rom key, however many w202/208/210 and w220 still have the original key. If you have noticed the 57 rom comes on the new black key circuit board with all the components on the top including the coil..

Everything after 2005 came with 57 from factory I think..

Agabna, We are are 10 yeahs away from reading BGA keys :(

[aassfour]

I do 20 Mercedes keys a week, and I can tell you I see more 061/40Rom keys than I do with 51/57 rom.. How many have you seen aassfour?

Bali, Yes if the car has had a new key in its life high chances are its a 57rom key, however many w202/208/210 and w220 still have the original key. If you have noticed the 57 rom comes on the new black key circuit board with all the components on the top including the coil..

Everything after 2005 came with 57 from factory I think..

Agabna, We are are 10 yeahs away from reading BGA keys :(
true i dont do cars as much as u Mark :) i dont work only Benz and BMW , i do all cars, but i do many as well specially those 202 and 210 that most are scared to do or dont have time to do .
i ve seen many with the 212 keys for some older cars true but comparing to the 51 and 57 keys below 2010 they are like 10% of cars who are equipped with that type.
i think for that type of keys they r in the same situation as all key lost cars, and the best way is either by dealer or by changing EIS with a working key. Or if someone will figure out how to read the pass from the car and not from key.

[MarkPRP]

Also, I have had some interesting Info!

For the EIS/ESL changing systems on the other tools - You still need a Dealer PW!

[bali motor]

hi... dealer password need for reset esl or ezs.... if that is new no need dealer password... just need hash. and hash can read by IR.
after renew, that can use on another car..

[agabna]

I do 20 Mercedes keys a week, and I can tell you I see more 061/40Rom keys than I do with 51/57 rom.. How many have you seen aassfour?

Bali, Yes if the car has had a new key in its life high chances are its a 57rom key, however many w202/208/210 and w220 still have the original key. If you have noticed the 57 rom comes on the new black key circuit board with all the components on the top including the coil..

Everything after 2005 came with 57 from factory I think..

Agabna, We are are 10 yeahs away from reading BGA keys :(

hello
my main work like you for mb keys but not more than 6 keys in the month
most of problems i have in old motorola keys our the new keys
for the new car after 2007 most of the costumer ask for the new spare keys without removing any thing in the car
so how can i do spare key
i know noimmo is the best for mb key programming
but they have to work hard more to read the 212 key
that is the best idea

[aassfour]

hello
my main work like you for mb keys but not more than 6 keys in the month
most of problems i have in old motorola keys our the new keys
for the new car after 2007 most of the costumer ask for the new spare keys without removing any thing in the car
so how can i do spare key
i know noimmo is the best for mb key programming
but they have to work hard more to read the 212 key
that is the best idea
after 2006 till 2010 u can do keys without removing dust out the car, and since u mentioned noimmo , go check them they have it

[mercis]

nec_pro-57
Nec programmer Mercedes Step 1 Renew EIS W204,W207 www.ezs24.de Skayp: tachoservoce - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cThef-gcX8)

[agabna]

after 2006 till 2010 u can do keys without removing dust out the car, and since u mentioned noimmo , go check them they have it
Hello

yes you can read the ezs by the obd
but you will need the pasword which you can got it from the key
So you will need to use the key
for me i dont like to touch any thing working
these owners of these type of cars are very aggressive
thanks

[aassfour]

Hello

yes you can read the ezs by the obd
but you will need the pasword which you can got it from the key
So you will need to use the key
for me i dont like to touch any thing working
these owners of these type of cars are very aggressive
thanks
nothing comes easy from pressing 1 button , if the customer doesnt like this then he can F*** off, plus with the noimmo tool i see 0% risk of damaging unless the one who is programming the keys a newbie and never touched a soldering iron in his life ( and i dont think any newbie would ever buy this tool )

[aassfour]

testing the Mb Key prog EVO on a W209 EIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1Z59LnTOzI&feature=youtu.be

[MarkPRP]

MBKeyprog2 V11 EVO Mercedes key programming W204/164/251 NEC EZS ALL MOTOROLA - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMU_SKHCVU4&feature=em-upload_owner)

[aassfour]

is that u mark in the VID :D

[MarkPRP]

No, I'm much better looking :top:

[obdsystems]

Regarding video -
So EZS dump is read via IR :)
Is this always the case (Motorola?) or do we still have to take EZS off car. I think not always so easy!!

Forgive my starter questions guys!! - I like the look of this kit and also the AK500 kit.
Not so keen on the Abritus Merc software as calculator is on-line

Steve
PS. Just been asked to do a A-Class spare key - anyway you guys could help me out and i paypal you some cash???

[MarkPRP]

Steve,

Hash data is read by IR from EZS - Its not the actual dump only key final hashes. If you have no keys for an older car then yes you still have to remove the EZS!

As long as you have 51/57 rom key it is always that easy.

[3abas27]

PLZ WHO TEST SOLUTION FROM EZS24 ,?
Startmen? | ezs24.de (http://www.ezs24.de/)
PRICE IS HIGH BUT NO ONE TALK ABOUT
CAN MAKE KEY IF ALL KEY LOST WITH NEW EIS,?

[aassfour]

PLZ WHO TEST SOLUTION FROM EZS24 ,?
Startmen? | ezs24.de (http://www.ezs24.de/)
PRICE IS HIGH BUT NO ONE TALK ABOUT
CAN MAKE KEY IF ALL KEY LOST WITH NEW EIS,?
ezs24 i think have a solution for all key lost without changing EIS as far as i know , i may be mistaken. but the HIGH price is mainly for the ESL reseting option.
i believe that MBE have a trick to all key lost by changing the EIS and they are working to add an option for ESL reseting and all key lost in the near future since the way is there so they can do it and when they will i believe its gonna be better then any other tool

[smayer]

Regarding video -
So EZS dump is read via IR :)
Is this always the case (Motorola?) or do we still have to take EZS off car. I think not always so easy!!

Forgive my starter questions guys!! - I like the look of this kit and also the AK500 kit.
Not so keen on the Abritus Merc software as calculator is on-line

Steve
PS. Just been asked to do a A-Class spare key - anyway you guys could help me out and i paypal you some cash???

Help is for FREE in DK, if you need help just post or send PM.

[bali motor]

I have compare many programmer.... mercedes instrumnet and necpro57 that good programmer..
can do for ESL

[Hanukkah]

Nobody is mentioning Key Less Prog... is this kit no good?

[aassfour]

Programmed Today W204 2009 , whole job 7 minutes on MBE

does anyone have any idea wt can we do with 212 keys Virgin ones ? like in the pic
242036

[aassfour]

with MBE EVO you can make keys if the car has keys with V51 and V57
while the BenzInstrument and the one simontouch is selling , they can read only the V57
that will give u a clear idea which tool is better between all in ADDING KEY not in ELV

[arvedo]

Good day friends a question.
keys can be programmed resale?
the year 2007 onwards.
thanks for your help

[wsc]

Pics from the EZS24 device

[champion85]

Hi,

What about this device from BMW Key Programming Device Smart Key (http://www.keyprogtools.com/)

Best Regards,
Martin

[champion85]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kim8p-bRpkA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Essw1phd1Ik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ce4z8JY-go

[aassfour]

Hi,

What about this device from BMW Key Programming Device Smart Key (http://www.keyprogtools.com/)

Best Regards,
Martin
Works on V57 only , few bought it and returned it

[aassfour]

Mercedes Nec key prog and 204 steering lock repair 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kim8p-bRpkA)

Mercedes Nec key prog and 204 steering lock repair 2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Essw1phd1Ik)

MERCEDES NEC KEY PROGRAMMER - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ce4z8JY-go)

Dont trust a tool that doesnt show u the coverage cars and the full functionality and manual and some technical info.
u will disapointed after u buy it

[Master01]

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[arvedo]

but if new keys is bga, you can not unmount

[paul_12345]

but if new keys is bga, you can not unmount

of course you can remove / refit bga chips.

[aassfour]

Chinese solution :D

MB Key OBD2 , add new key via OBD2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRafXqJWBWM)

its not chinese
its indonisian i think
:indecisiveness:

[paul_12345]

its not chinese
its indonisian i think
:indecisiveness:

if you look at the title bar it says diagspeed and on diagspeed.com its from Lebanon

[aassfour]

diagspeed is not too far from me , i dont think he has it
i might be wrong

[hamzadaw2000]

Ecartool from Taiwan I contacted them since three months and told me on January will release.


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[Master01]

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[3abas27]

plz link for this taiwan link

[paul_12345]

Ecartool from Taiwan I contacted them since three months and told me on January will release.


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ecartool may well be from Taiwan but this does not mean they made the device does it.

[riospeed]

ecartool may well be from Taiwan but this does not mean they made the device does it.

SKYPE .diagspeed

lebanon

Ask him

[hamzadaw2000]

Please find below the prices of Ecartools in Taiwan:
basic function add new key :2800 euro
full software renew 722.9 ehs ,programming 204 new elv, renew eis :6800euro


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[aassfour]

SKYPE .diagspeed

lebanon

Ask him
riospeed related to diagspeed ??!! :2in1:

[paul_12345]

Please find below the prices of Ecartools in Taiwan:
basic function add new key :2800 euro
full software renew 722.9 ehs ,programming 204 new elv, renew eis :6800euro


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why would you pay that when you can get the MBE evo version for around 3000e with v51 and v57 keys supported

[labusas]

>>>why would you pay that when you can get the MBE evo version for around 3000e with v51 and v57 keys supported
That is so true, Evo is from a trusted maker with guaranteed support - no issues. Who are those other guys? What happpens if you need help with something not working?

[aassfour]

>>>why would you pay that when you can get the MBE evo version for around 3000e with v51 and v57 keys supported
That is so true, Evo is from a trusted maker with guaranteed support - no issues. Who are those other guys? What happpens if you need help with something not working?

100% true
plus EVO is the only that can read the V51 and V57 while others tools just do the V57

[wsc]

I am not sure is 100% true my friend, A friend told me that also mercedesinstruments and ezs24 can read both 51/57 like Evo, plus is doing Eis-
elv renew
Maybe I am wrong - time will show!

[bali motor]

Please find below the prices of Ecartools in Taiwan:
basic function add new key :2800 euro
full software renew 722.9 ehs ,programming 204 new elv, renew eis :6800euro


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I chat with him ecartool taiwan... him say.. price 2600 euro... and canot fix esl.
(2600 euro + shipping fee
[18/01/2014 12:48:48] !!Ecartool-TAIPEI Lamborghini Diagnostic System: at least you need 1 key for it
[18/01/2014 12:48:55] !!Ecartool-TAIPEI Lamborghini Diagnostic System: and can ot do ESL?)

[aassfour]

I am not sure is 100% true my friend, A friend told me that also mercedesinstruments and ezs24 can read both 51/57 like Evo, plus is doing Eis-
elv renew
Maybe I am wrong - time will show!
im not sure about ezs24 but i m sure that mercedesinstrument can read only 57 ( tested )

my video with a W204 on EVO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggl8xvuSPnE

[wsc]

Confirm : ezs24 100% working with 51/57 :)

[aassfour]

i have a Question , i have a LOT of virgin keys never been programed with 62, anyone knows if any of those tools can write on them by IR ? i tried on EVO but no success

[bali motor]

i have a Question , i have a LOT of virgin keys never been programed with 62, anyone knows if any of those tools can write on them by IR ? i tried on EVO but no success

Your keys with keyless-go fungtion?


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[aassfour]

Your keys with keyless-go fungtion?


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no just normal
242809

[bali motor]

no just normal
242809

yes... that can not do....
i think no have programmer for renew that keys

[wsc]

As i know all teams working for the new (BGA) keys now, maybe we will have results soon

[bali motor]

this manual for necpro57.

[bali motor]

continued manual ezs programming

[bali motor]

manual necpro57 for ADD key

[bali motor]

continued necpro57 for ADD key

[bali motor]

this full manual from ezs24 for necpro57

[aassfour]

yes... that can not do....
i think no have programmer for renew that keys
we dont need to renew it , these keys are already new , VIRGIN never been Programmed

[bali motor]

we dont need to renew it , these keys are already new , VIRGIN never been Programmed

if you key is replacement.. can not do... if your key is serial can do it.
if you order key from dealer will can not program... just dealer programmer can do it.

key from noimmo it can be program.

if my opinion is wrong.

[aassfour]

Keys from noimmo are totaly different since its them who make them and call them BE ( which are very good quality like original )
my keys which are a HUGE LOT has this data :
242989

[bali motor]

same like new ezs for replacement they are crypto mode can not program ... orange key can program it
same with key for replacement can program with this programmer... i think same they are crypto mode

[starprog]

hello
A lot of custmers come to me and asked about making second key(for 204,212,164) and the worked key is not version 51/57, its new model!
year 2012 and up!
not programmer can make that?????

243026

[aassfour]

hello
A lot of custmers come to me and asked about making second key(for 204,212,164) and the worked key is not version 51/57, its new model!
year 2012 and up!
not programmer can make that?????

243026
not at this moment , unless u want to change the eis

[Master01]

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[bram380]

Another company:

W204 NEW KEY PROGRAMMING - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jwfJ0dmslI)

Programmer made by :
??????? - Mercedes Instrument (http://mercedesinstrument.com/catalog/#!/~/product/category=3040229&id=13248558)

Is it correct?

[Master01]

Yes, correct.

[aassfour]

Another company:

W204 NEW KEY PROGRAMMING - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jwfJ0dmslI)
its not new , been discussed from the beginning of the thread

[Master01]

its not new , been discussed from the beginning of the thread

But video is new. :P

[smayer]

I bet this solution price drop to 2000 euro in less then 6 month.

[vanos batam]

lost all key no problem..
no need any pass from 57 or 51

[smayer]

lost all key no problem..
no need any pass from 57 or 51

You always post someting like this but never say how !!
It?s just to all people know you are the only one with the solution?
Anyone can say the same if don?t need proof.

[bali motor]

yes... loss all key... no need pass from key57... change new ezs... write data data from old ezs...
necpro57 can do it... write data to new ezs by IR....
for loss all key no need password dealer or from key... just write 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00... or you can write password up to you...

so: SOLUTION FOR LOSS ALL KEY.. CHANGE NEW EZS.

[labusas]

Thanks, but in many countries you can't buy a NEW virgin EZS from dealers. Regards

[bali motor]

Ezs24 sell ezs renew.. Price 200 up 250 euro..


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[vevepatronu]

hi m8's,

i talked with the guy from EZS24.de and the price for a new EZS is 100E for customers that bought his tool.

[bali motor]

Yeah good info... Thank.


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[aassfour]

All keys lost now is an old story.
engineers are working on the new challenge the v62 keys and the keyless keys for w204 , w221 ...
since the solution for reading EZS is there and we r getting the hashes now from EIS, the challenge to find a source to get the password from other then the V51 and V57, maybe from a module inside the car or from the EIS itself, and that will solve the all key lost situation and the 212 keys... i think that solution will take couple of years to be revealed

[smayer]

New esl = 350 euro New key= 240 euro 2 days delivery
In Mercedes dealer. This is the reality in my country.
I can?t buy this tools, i don?t make keys for stolen cars.

[vevepatronu]

maybe when the price will drop to 2000E :P you will reconsider ...

[aassfour]

New esl = 350 euro New key= 240 euro 2 days delivery
In Mercedes dealer. This is the reality in my country.
I can?t buy this tools, i don?t make keys for stolen cars.
Cost of the key : 70 EU - 240 EU = 170EU profit for 10 minutes job and the customer wont wait 3 weeks for dealer
as for the esl : 350 EURO from dealer ???? i doubt that since dealer charge for labours usually just 300 euro + ESL cost + waiting for 3 weeks

[mercis]

350 eu for esl and orange key must buy and learning mb dealer

[smayer]

Cost of the key : 70 EU - 240 EU = 170EU profit for 10 minutes job and the customer wont wait 3 weeks for dealer
as for the esl : 350 EURO from dealer ???? i doubt that since dealer charge for labours usually just 300 euro + ESL cost + waiting for 3 weeks

In my contry client never whait 3 weeks, max 3 days.
I buy the esl at dealer for +- 350 EU and dealer don?t charge for orange key.
Most ESL need new motor brushes, i?m sure sofware can?t change.
Keys at 70 EU ?? please send the link to buy.

[aassfour]

LINK IS ME :)

[bali motor]

Mercedes instrument is good soft... i'm already buy basic software.
basic software can do for keyless-go fungtion and can repair damaged eeprom, calc online, fast calc

this soft can change version ezs...
sample..:
i have change ezs w220 original ezs with mcu hc08... and i'm change ezs with hc9s12
just change data.. all is ok.. no need make new key.. no need virgin ecu no need virgin ESM...
and just make coding ezs...

next plant i need update for reading key 57rom and update for renew ezs & esl.... i think this soft work well

mercedes instument dan necprog57 same base soft... that good software and tools..

recommend this software..


If there is someone who has been using this software ... please share your experience here, so we can choose the best software.

thank you..

[ecumasters]

You are must be patient.
As far I know. New Evl kline prog
Its seems like jtag 10$.

Greetings
Ecumasters

[aassfour]

You are must be patient.
As far I know. New Evl kline prog
Its seems like jtag 10$.

Greetings
Ecumasters
can u explain what u just said ?

[autofan1965]

I think that he count hardware not algo. Then in his price list avdi is at 50usd:)

[autodigitec]

I know simontouch costs 6000? and can virgin/renew w204 ESL and we can adapt it to other cars by reading Nec key.

What other options do I have to do this?

[bali motor]

Not all used esl can use.. If esl is block can not program.


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[bali motor]

For program new esl.. Always need corrrect password from key. Read data ezs and read password from key.. Make renew ezs first and then program esl.


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[aassfour]

Not all used esl can use.. If esl is block can not program.


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Blocked ESL can be unblocked now

[obdsystems]

So sell arms+legs to buy MBE group programmer and only be able to do 1 in 5 cars better than a cheapie programmer ???
what about 06+ on does it do all these ???

That's what i think i'm reading here from you guys :)
Did my 1st Crafter EZS today and have the bug :)

[aassfour]

So sell arms+legs to buy MBE group programmer and only be able to do 1 in 5 cars better than a cheapie programmer ???
what about 06+ on does it do all these ???

That's what i think i'm reading here from you guys :)
Did my 1st Crafter EZS today and have the bug :)
for wt it does MBE EVO is cheap since i have a lot of benz, and it does only 51 and 57 like all other programmers in market which are higher in price. i would say depending on my market MBE can do 3 out of 5 benz which is good investment.

[aassfour]

Personally I will advice to a mercedes-instrument tools he can only do 57 keys but he have more option than MBE tool and price are quite the same.
arturius the price is not the same at all , if u buy all option it will be 10000$ or euro not sure

[bali motor]

Yes price 10000 euro for full option..


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[bali motor]

And calc pass dealer 2800 euro.. Im talk about full option.. . I know pass dealer can buy by token.. 50 usd/ token..


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[obdmaster]

for wt it does MBE EVO is cheap since i have a lot of benz, and it does only 51 and 57 like all other programmers in market which are higher in price. i would say depending on my market MBE can do 3 out of 5 benz which is good investment.

I have MBE EVO and id say 3 or maybe 4 out of 5 benz cars it can do, without removing EZS. I would definately buy evo again :-)

[aassfour]

Guys sorry but price is not 10000 euro!!
Basic is 1500 euro (full adapter + 16/38 pin cable+zif prog)
Read pass from v57 key is 2700
Renew ezs and elv 3000

total 7200 euro and you can renew ism and 7g (by token) renew all ecu engine dump and can do keyless go etc..
I'am not a promoter for mehaco or mercedes-instrument and also I have only the basic package but with this tool you can do all lost key ( need a ezs with working key).
I will recomend if anybody want this tool to order it directly to mercedes-instrument and not from other as I did (big error) because from other support is really sh.t. .....!!

To compare between instrument and EVO we need to talk about only the w204 and w221 key making and nothing else like ESL . The price of the MBE EVO is 3000 euro and do v51 and v57 if we want to buy the instrument with the same options as EVO the price will be higher and it does only v57 . MBE EVO doesn't need any online server am calculation takes 3 seconds . I know very well the instrument and I would say it's a great tool but to compare it with EVO functions I would go with EVO .


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[autofan1965]

To compare between instrument and EVO we need to talk about only the w204 and w221 key making and nothing else like ESL . The price of the MBE EVO is 3000 euro and do v51 and v57 if we want to buy the instrument with the same options as EVO the price will be higher and it does only v57 . MBE EVO doesn't need any online server am calculation takes 3 seconds . I know very well the instrument and I would say it's a great tool but to compare it with EVO functions I would go with EVO .

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Evo is cheaper, have offline calculation and support v51. Can you point what unique have mb instrument? How oft is v51? I have no experience with MB.

[aassfour]

Evo is cheaper, have offline calculation and support v51. Can you point what unique have mb instrument? How oft is v51? I have no experience with MB.
instrument is a great tool i would say.
for full options it will do all benz below with motorolla EZS plus it can do keyless go
for the nec ezs it can make the V57 only
it can do ELV and EZS reset , you need dealer password with online server .

[amir_82013]

which tools or Co. good ? for repair ESL and adding key and for lost all key cars and keylessgo cars
https://avtotools.com/shop/index.php?categoryID=187
Equipment (http://www.noimmo.lt/equipment/params/122/)
News (http://mehaco.com/index.php?route=information/news)
http://www.keyprogtools.com/index.php/m ... ering-lock (http://www.keyprogtools.com/index.php/mercedes-nec-device-esl-w204-steering-lock)
??????? - Mercedes Instrument (http://mercedesinstrument.com/home/)
NEC Programmer, Immobilizer programming (http://efichip.com/EN/catalog/6/181/)
Software and tools for car diagnosis and repair (http://cee-team.com/en/)
Home | NECPRO57.com
(http://www.necpro57.com/)The Legend Web (http://thelegendweb.com/index.php)

[bali motor]

which tools or Co. good ? for repair ESL and adding key and for lost all key cars and keylessgo cars
https://avtotools.com/shop/index.php?categoryID=187
Equipment (http://www.noimmo.lt/equipment/params/122/)
News (http://mehaco.com/index.php?route=information/news)
http://www.keyprogtools.com/index.php/m ... ering-lock (http://www.keyprogtools.com/index.php/mercedes-nec-device-esl-w204-steering-lock)
??????? - Mercedes Instrument (http://mercedesinstrument.com/home/)
NEC Programmer, Immobilizer programming (http://efichip.com/EN/catalog/6/181/)
Software and tools for car diagnosis and repair (http://cee-team.com/en/)
Home | NECPRO57.com
(http://www.necpro57.com/)The Legend Web (http://thelegendweb.com/index.php)

this tool work on nec ezs benz:
1) nec keyprog EVO this from noimmo.lt ( MBE group)
fungtion work only for add key if have key rom57 and rom51 (calc key by online)

2) Mercedes NEC IR from keyprogtools.com or thelegendweb.com
fungtion 1 work for add key if have key rom57 and rom51 (calc key by SKC)
fungtion 2 work for repair and program esl with out dealer password (repair esl if BLOCK need 4 hour untill 1 day)


3) Necpro57 from necpro57.com
fungtion 1 work for add key if have key rom57 and rom51 ( calc key By SKC)
fungtion 2 can program esl and renew esl need delaer password
fungtion 3 can read dump old ezs motorolla full with password ( just HC908 and HC912)
fungtion 4 work on renew esm, 7G and another ecu

4) Mercedesinsrument. from mercedesinstument.com
fungtion 1 work add key if have key rom 57 not work yet for rom51 (calc key direct by soft and online calc)
fungtion 2 work for program esl and renew esl need dealer password
fungtion 3 work for nec ezs and motorolla ezs
fungtion 4 work for renew esl, 7G, and many ecu fungtion

5) MB key OBD2 from Diagspeed.com
fungtion 1 work add key if have rom57 and rom 51 ( they claim can do for BGA key and clac online)
fungtion 2 work for program esl and renew ezs ( they claim can unlock esl)
fungtion 3 work for renew esl, 7G, and many ecu fungtion

6) EFICHIP from efichip.com
fungition only work on add key with key rom57 and rom51 ( calc key by SKC)

If I am wrong. please justified


please choose, which one is the best

[Saulius Saulius]

How about AK500 Pro, good tool or total shit?

[obdsystems]

How about AK500 Pro, good tool or total shit?

I've read it has gaps (Motorola ?). Looking at the money of these kits the AK500 pro must be shit.

No cheap way to do these newer fobs and still can't do lost keys - what's the point ???

[sparkz02]

So with the EVO prog what cars can you do lost keys via obd for? w203, older e class, old a class? what about the NEC versions, w204, w221 etc. ? When you say it works on 3 out of 5 cars, does that mean 3 out of 5 cars that its suppose to work it only supports 3 out of 5 versions?

[paul_12345]

So with the EVO prog what cars can you do lost keys via obd for? w203, older e class, old a class? what about the NEC versions, w204, w221 etc. ? When you say it works on 3 out of 5 cars, does that mean 3 out of 5 cars that its suppose to work it only supports 3 out of 5 versions?

it supports 0 cars lost key via obd

they mean 3 out of 5 cars as only 3 out of 5 cars have the keys with rom version 51 or 57

You still have to desolder the mcu in the original key to obtain the password

[bali motor]

For this times just necpro57 can reading password from ezs by IR.. just for hc908 and HC912.
maybe next times they will make update for nec ezs.

[totalkey]

I am just wondering why abritus team left behind on this Benz systems

[bali motor]

Abritus works slowly but surely, all the functions will work properly.
many tools that have many functions but does not work well.

I'am Buy erase esl from thelegendweb... not work properly..
erase one mcu need one day.... or make damage mcu esl..

[autofan1965]

Abritus works slowly but surely, all the functions will work properly.
many tools that have many functions but does not work well.

I'am Buy erase esl from thelegendweb... not work properly..
erase one mcu need one day.... or make damage mcu esl..

You are wrong that all functions work properly by abritus. They make to much things at one time and they only target is to get your cash.

[bali motor]

yeah i'am wrong.... i have just have full lecensi for toyota and benz. ( i can corection odo w204 ezs direct by OBD)
What you think .. the best tools form BENZ?

[autofan1965]

I have no experience in mb. I know how work abritus team and remeber problems from members with programmer for mb keys. They dont test things fully, they charge and then make beta test on users. I think that in real world are probably 2-3 mercedes key equipment developers and rest are just resselers with rebuild same program. Cee team have cheapes solution for 51 and 57 but how it work i cant say.

[giovani]

hi.



I have efichip tool, key service,

I would like to share experiences with those who have the same tool,

or who has doubts

I need programmer key service, I have not.

My opinion is that efichip sells but with little explanation, I was disappointed with the after sales.

[aassfour]

i ve been using the EVO for about 6 months now and didnt fail me once. the only backside is that it only adds keys and cant do all key lost. and i think none of other tools can do all key lost all they do is changing EIS with its keys.

[oknid]

Why EVO cannot do all keys lost? If you read full EIS dump (password and evrerything else) with ETL and calculate offline keys... Or i am missing something?

[iamfooser]

Why EVO cannot do all keys lost? If you read full EIS dump (password and evrerything else) with ETL and calculate offline keys... Or i am missing something?

EVO IR tool read eis hash list, and get password from unsolder key nec. It couldn't read password from eis with IR tool.

Regards

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[oknid]

EVO IR tool read eis hash list, and get password from unsolder key nec. It couldn't read password from eis with IR tool.

Regards

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OK, but if you read the EIS with old fashion way than you can do everything.

[iamfooser]

Yes that is correct. But thread is about new type eis with nec chip.

For newer eis, we can't read with old fashion way.

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[oknid]

Yes that is correct. But thread is about new type eis with nec chip.

For newer eis, we can't read with old fashion way.

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Ahh, sorry...hope that experts from noimmo will solve readings for new type of EIS...
Regards

[Vladko]

I have no experience in mb. I know how work abritus team and remeber problems from members with programmer for mb keys. They dont test things fully, they charge and then make beta test on users. I think that in real world are probably 2-3 mercedes key equipment developers and rest are just resselers with rebuild same program. Cee team have cheapes solution for 51 and 57 but how it work i cant say.


I can-it work perfect,and now newer version will be released.If you are interested i can make you team viewer demo. ;-)

[obdsystems]

im interested.

email me at .... No Email Addys please

[autofan1965]

I can-it work perfect,and now newer version will be released.If you are interested i can make you team viewer demo. ;-)

Thanks:). What new in newer version?

[amir_82013]

Hello
I have a w204 2008 that damage ESL(ELV) and don't have Voice tik tik tik of ESL ...
i want assembling a Timer for EIS w204
anyone have experience ?

Thanks, best regards

[aassfour]

Hello
I have a w204 2008 that damage ESL(ELV) and don't have Voice tik tik tik of ESL ...
i want assembling a Timer for EIS w204
anyone have experience ?

Thanks, best regards

get a dealer ESL or visit someone who has a W204 ESL programmer that can reprogram a used ESL to ur car or put emulator ( still need programming )

[darkman30]

Hi! How can i personalising sprinter 906 ezs with NEC and esl with motorola proc? This is possible? I change the esl with NEC to motorola and key turn, igniton on, but the starter don't crank. Esl was renewing and after programing with das, but the problem same.
Please help me, what data need to esl?
Thanx
(sorry my english)

[MarkPRP]

No possible, you need to have NEC esl for it to work...

[giovani]

hi.

I have IR KEY , made ​​by EFICHIP, I find all hash, but now the most important is to find the passport key, with this I have all the data to make key.

I ask:
Anyone know how to read or have some software or reader via kline we can do to read the passport nec.


Thanks

[darkman30]

No possible, you need to have NEC esl for it to work...
Thanx
But how can i renew esl with nec?

[wsc]

with one of the tools they can do it , simple: read post #121

[puiu]

Seems that thelegendweb have new tools,
The Legend Web (http://thelegendweb.com/page.php?itemid=283)
what is your opinions ?

Puiu

[tunertool]

Information is very limited, doesn't announce anything special in particular...

[puiu]

Hi friends,

i need your opinion ,i am about to buy the Mercedes Instrument,
to be able to play with the new 204,212 ESL and EIS etc...
i read here all ,but still have my doubts
if any one have it or have other similar tool please contact me
it will nice to hear an opinion from a user

thanks

Puiu

[aassfour]

Seems that thelegendweb have new tools,
The Legend Web (http://thelegendweb.com/page.php?itemid=283)
what is your opinions ?

Puiu
it has been in market for over a year now https://www.avtotools.com/index.php?productID=431
benzinstrument is a good tool one of the best for its functions. Recommended

[puiu]

Thanks for your answer,
i read all yours other post,
most interesting for me is to
have a good solution for repair 204 ESL
and Mercedes Instrument don't have it
that's why i still search the best options,
because all cost a lots of money.

[aassfour]

Thanks for your answer,
i read all yours other post,
most interesting for me is to
have a good solution for repair 204 ESL
and Mercedes Instrument don't have it
that's why i still search the best options,
because all cost a lots of money.
benz instrument can reset a used ELv and many other options , its the one u need

[puiu]

Yes can reset used ESL if you now the pass,and if you take a good used ESL from other car you need the key to extract dealer pass...
i am shure is a good tool,and i like that Aleksej is very helpfull
and has answer all my question,but i still want to see if are better tools


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[puiu]

like ESL_Doctor for example


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[autodigitec]

I have Simontouch full set, which is the same as thelegendweb, so if you are interested in these, check which one is cheaper because I don't know.
They're going to be both in a show in Poland next month. I might go check it out. :P

Simontouch set is perfect to those who deal with a lot of w204 broken ELV. It fixes blocked ELV NECs with some kind of bruteforce method. It can take 1 hour or 5+. It doesn't matter because you can simply reset a few NECs, fully mount the ELVs and have them in stock as if they came from factory.

If the costumer arrives with the EIS+ELV unmounted, you just:
-read EIS by IR(~1 minute)
-read key nec(~10 minutes)
-plug ELV cable in one of your previously "factory" ELVs and program by kline (~2 minutes)

In 10-15 minutes since the arrival of the costumer, you can charge him.

________________

I haven't messed with All lost keys cases, but if I read the manual correctly you need a new (blank) EIS and it's done like this:
-I read the old EIS by IR
-Edit the file with any new password of my choice
-Create a "gray" nec key from the edited file
-Program a renewed ELV by kline with the edited file
-Plug it all and insert key on EIS. In the end the key should behave as normal key, if Im not mistaken.


Don't think the other Tools have better procedures because you can only virgin EIS if you know password, as you said.

[puiu]

Hi,

thank you for all explanation,
I already bought full kit Mercedes Instrument,
i wait to receive it in a few days,
and i will post feedback here .

Puiu

[bali motor]

I am use mercedes instument too... Very stabil tools.. No any problem.. Just can not read key rom 51 for password. And can not do for BE key.. Work well for repair dump ezs..


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[autodigitec]

Is this the one you bought? ??????? - Mercedes Instrument (http://mercedesinstrument.com/catalog/#!/Mercedes-Instrument/p/13248558/category=3040229)

Only 1.3k€ or there's more options?

[autofan1965]

1.3 is base only. Most of additional options cost 3eur each. How mehaco make all key lost only with eis when esl reprogram is needed?

[puiu]

10k euro full option [emoji1]


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[puiu]

Base Set with cables 1500 euro
Read pass ROM 57 - 2700 euro
Read /renew EZS-ESL -3000 euro
Calculate dealer password - 2800 euro (EZS ,ECU,ESL,722.9,ISM)


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[autodigitec]

Mercedes instrument seems to be just a rebranding of Mehaco.

The devices look like the same and prices are also the same:



Dear Sir,
1-basic hardware Key Less Prog + OBD/38 pin cables + Zif socket (you already know about it , it supports all cars until 2006 even with Key Less keys ) 1500 euro
2-if you want to only add key when car has working ROM57 key by OBD or IR or CAN for any car until year 2010, 2700 euro
3- if you want to program ESL and EZS(change mileage or chassis number ) for 204,221,164.... 3000 euro but this option doesn't work without the previous one ..
4- if you want to renew EZS,ESL,ECU,ETC,ISM,DSM all by K-line to use in any desired car you will need Dealer password , every Token cost 33 euro or if unlimited price will be 2800 euro ....

The only thing that amazes me is the "Calc Dealer PSW" button :D

[puiu]

Wrong my friend, Mehaco is seller of Mercedes Instrument,
with other name "Key Less Prog+"
Aleksej is developer of this tool,
at least that as I know...

[joemajdalani]

Wrong my friend, Mehaco is seller of Mercedes Instrument,
with other name "Key Less Prog+"
Aleksej is developer of this tool,
at least that as I know...

I also believe so,Aleksej is developer.

[bali motor]

Yes .. You buy step by step.. Buy basic first and or buy with out password dealer online.. Save your money


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[radu]

have someoane testet diagspeed?

[drivesure]

I have Simontouch full set, which is the same as thelegendweb, so if you are interested in these, check which one is cheaper because I don't know.
They're going to be both in a show in Poland next month. I might go check it out. :P

Simontouch set is perfect to those who deal with a lot of w204 broken ELV. It fixes blocked ELV NECs with some kind of bruteforce method. It can take 1 hour or 5+. It doesn't matter because you can simply reset a few NECs, fully mount the ELVs and have them in stock as if they came from factory.

If the costumer arrives with the EIS+ELV unmounted, you just:
-read EIS by IR(~1 minute)
-read key nec(~10 minutes)
-plug ELV cable in one of your previously "factory" ELVs and program by kline (~2 minutes)

In 10-15 minutes since the arrival of the costumer, you can charge him.

________________

I haven't messed with All lost keys cases, but if I read the manual correctly you need a new (blank) EIS and it's done like this:
-I read the old EIS by IR
-Edit the file with any new password of my choice
-Create a "gray" nec key from the edited file
-Program a renewed ELV by kline with the edited file
-Plug it all and insert key on EIS. In the end the key should behave as normal key, if Im not mistaken.


Don't think the other Tools have better procedures because you can only virgin EIS if you know password, as you said.

i am looking at tools for esl repair - but for w204 esl repair - you need eis, esl and key- if the customer key is bga key - then you cannot complete the process?

[raymand333]

Hi all member ,

I have recently purchased NECPRO57 but One question I have is that how do u know if ESL is locked or not ?
by lock I mean for some case u can just change the motor inside ESL but in lock state it will still remain broken after motor has been replaced.
read by k-LINE I get this:
Initialized : Yes
TP Removed : Yes
Personalized : Yes
Activated : Yes
ESL is Closed!
All keys unblocked!

I ask my seller but he is a busy guy so...here I am

Thank u ALL!

[autodigitec]

i am looking at tools for esl repair - but for w204 esl repair - you need eis, esl and key- if the customer key is bga key - then you cannot complete the process?

That's correct. You need a working v51 or v57 nec key. I dont think any conpany has other solution.

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[autodigitec]

Hi all member ,

I have recently purchased NECPRO57 but One question I have is that how do u know if ESL is locked or not ?
by lock I mean for some case u can just change the motor inside ESL but in lock state it will still remain broken after motor has been replaced.
read by k-LINE I get this:
Initialized : Yes
TP Removed : Yes
Personalized : Yes
Activated : Yes
ESL is Closed!
All keys unblocked!

I ask my seller but he is a busy guy so...here I am

Thank u ALL!

"Esl is closed." That means its locked, i believe.

If you have some sort of box where you can send custom commands i can tell you how to know if its unlocked/locked/moving.

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[puiu]

.....wrong post

[autodigitec]

Solution to read Password from BGA keys:

Home (http://www.diagspeed.co/)

It has some videos.
It calculates EZS password using a conbination of connecting EIS via CAN + BGA via IR.
I've asked for price and might actually order to test it.

EDIT: CEE-TEAM says the solution I just posted has a low success rate. Still very excited about this, and will try to research more about this.
EDIT2: Diagspeed.co says the success rate at this moment is 90%. They are still working on the calculator.

[znakedwrx]

Did anyone test DIAGSPEED tool ?

[aassfour]

Solution to read Password from BGA keys:

Home (http://www.diagspeed.co/)

It has some videos.
It calculates EZS password using a conbination of connecting EIS via CAN + BGA via IR.
I've asked for price and might actually order to test it.

EDIT: CEE-TEAM says the solution I just posted has a low success rate. Still very excited about this, and will try to research more about this.
EDIT2: Diagspeed.co says the success rate at this moment is 90%. They are still working on the calculator.
from my experience with diagspeed i would say the success rate would be 1% for BGA keys. just a thought
and it doesnt have videos about BGA keys where did u see it ? i saw only BE keys

[Aniskey2]

i asked for the price list
Mb key OBD2 6000€
Keyless go adapter 250€
Test cable if you need 150$

[autodigitec]

from my experience with diagspeed i would say the success rate would be 1% for BGA keys. just a thought
and it doesnt have videos about BGA keys where did u see it ? i saw only BE keys


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R73l8RqKf48#t=15

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uByQEtuNxbs

It looks real to me, I'm not sure about success rate, just quoting what they told me.

[wsc]

from my experience with diagspeed i would say the success rate would be 1% for BGA keys. just a thought
and it doesnt have videos about BGA keys where did u see it ? i saw only BE keys


pass from DS working , tested today for resetting EIS W204 with BGA key (not BE ) BGA Fw62

i can confirm that working, make key also

[wsc]

i asked for the price list
Mb key OBD2 6000€
Keyless go adapter 250€
Test cable if you need 150$


mate , prices is wrong
Ask better the author , never heard that sell separate adapters and cables

[autodigitec]

Haha, so people has been using it and dont say anything ofc
If I didnt start asking about it, most people wouldn't know. :D

the price diagspeed gave me is lower than mercedes intruments, and this one can get password from bga (even if it's not 100% success)

[obdsystems]

Haha, so people has been using it and dont say anything ofc
If I didnt start asking about it, most people wouldn't know. :D

diagspeed quoted me full set
I think it's not that expensive, as it seems to do everything mercedes instruments does, plus password from bga (even if it's not 100% success)

let us know how you get on :D

[wsc]

Haha, so people has been using it and dont say anything ofc
If I didnt start asking about it, most people wouldn't know. :D

diagspeed quoted me full set on 8000 usd , which is around 6300 €
I think it's not that expensive, as it seems to do everything mercedes instruments does, plus password from bga (even if it's not 100% success)

mate wait a little more , me and some other members here , we will post results for what is working and what not into all tools we have , i mean ( necpro57, MI, DS,EVO....etc)
maybe with this way all will see what have to buy, already we have some results from tests
thanks guys : Mark, bali, sogaro.....
Regards
WSC

[drivesure]

eager to hear test results - i want to invest in a tool and at present diagspeed looks more complete - especially with bga keys password extracion......please post results soonest.

[wsc]

next update , i will mate

[obdsystems]

always good to wait anyway so bugs sorted lol

[pandora6]

I have diagspeed programer. Tested on 4 keys Sw57. Read pass and hash right.

[Vladko]

All programmers now reads v51 and v57,interesting is BGA keys,keyless key and all keys lost situations.

[aassfour]

my friend has diagspeed and quoting what he says , BGA keys not working not the moment, they claim that they can get password from it but they cant.
i ve watched the video many times and still didnt see them manage to read the password from BGA

[drivesure]

All programmers now reads v51 and v57,interesting is BGA keys,keyless key and all keys lost situations.


many w204 have esl problems - this is also requirement - what tool can solve this - most w204 have bga keys - and if customer have esl problem with bga key - it is a problem - diagspeed says this they can rea to renew esl - asfour can you ask your friend if this works well?

[aassfour]

many w204 have esl problems - this is also requirement - what tool can solve this - most w204 have bga keys - and if customer have esl problem with bga key - it is a problem - diagspeed says this they can rea to renew esl - asfour can you ask your friend if this works well?

100% doesnt work , i didnt take my friend word for it so i went and saw it in my own eyes , it cant read password. i want those who said that it can read to show us vid of the process how it is done

[puiu]

I made some test with my Mercedes Instrument until now all function are working perfect,
read and made virgin EZS 204
read and made virgin used ESL 204
read pass from ROM 57
paired used ESL (made virgin first) with other used EZS 204
and not to forget the old EZS :)
- repaired flash on 908 MCU
- repaired old 210 EZS with motorola key without open ,only read motorola key MCU...

Puiu

[autodigitec]

I made some test with my Mercedes Instrument until now all function are working perfect,
read and made virgin EZS 204
read and made virgin used ESL 204
read pass from ROM 57
paired used ESL (made virgin first) with other used EZS 204
and not to forget the old EZS :)
- repaired flash on 908 MCU
- repaired old 210 EZS with motorola key without open ,only read motorola key MCU...

Puiu

Can you explain exact steps of pairing used ESL to another EZS that has r57 key? What is done online and what is done offline? Obviously you need to renew the ESL. But I heard you also have to renew the EZS before pairing them.

Also, how fast does it calculate dealer passwords?

[lagas]

If you have virgin ESL you need only activate and personalised. Use star or make green or orange key. Or use other ways. Ezs stay same state. If i am wrong corect some one

[puiu]

Dealer password is calculated online 2-3 min, keys are calculated online less than a minute.
For pairing EZS with ESL 204 you need both to be virgin,
after that you write ESL ,and activate EZS.

[Saulius Saulius]

I made some test with my Mercedes Instrument until now all function are working perfect,
read and made virgin EZS 204
read and made virgin used ESL 204
read pass from ROM 57
paired used ESL (made virgin first) with other used EZS 204
and not to forget the old EZS :)
- repaired flash on 908 MCU
- repaired old 210 EZS with motorola key without open ,only read motorola key MCU...

Puiu

I bought all ready mercedes instrument. Bought it because have not only renew and pairing, but have ezs repair functions as well.

[Master01]

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[znakedwrx]

WOW - Diagspeed is the cheapest solution and offers quite a lot of features but nobody can give us any kind of confirmation :(

[wsc]

be patient mate , we will :)

[aassfour]

Noimmo released the new softwares to read EIS 203 , 209, 211, 220 from IR key and the ElV/ESL reset er to adapt new or used ESL to a new car
Will be ordering them to test them


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[ttzag]

how much it costs please ?

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[puiu]

Noimmo released the new softwares to read EIS 203 , 209, 211, 220 from IR key and the ElV/ESL reset er to adapt new or used ESL to a new car
Will be ordering them to test them


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Looks god ,but dealer password for reset (renew) ESL is 100 euro / calculation (online of course) ,much higher than Mercedes Instrument - 50 usd ...
The great thing is the EZS IR password reader even if works in 70% of cases :)

[aassfour]

Looks god ,but dealer password for reset (renew) ESL is 100 euro / calculation (online of course) ,much higher than Mercedes Instrument - 50 usd ...
The great thing is the EZS IR password reader even if works in 70% of cases :)

With the registration u get 3 credit free I don't think if u want to buy credit it will be again 100 euro . I will be checking that with them Tommorrow. I believe it's much less.
The IR reader is a good one plus I'm sure in the near future the success will be more then 70%
Noimmo never done a tool that doesn't work with a success rate at least 90%
Keeping my fingers crossed


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[bali motor]

hello,
no one has to know about the new chip nec for esl?
Mercedes instrument and necpro57 sell new nec chip for esl , for case block nec chip for esl.
but they talk fungtion will like emulator, just solder new mcu to board ESL and personalize, and done.
no one has tried it? please share.

thx

[puiu]

With the registration u get 3 credit free I don't think if u want to buy credit it will be again 100 euro . I will be checking that with them Tommorrow. I believe it's much less.
The IR reader is a good one plus I'm sure in the near future the success will be more then 70%
Noimmo never done a tool that doesn't work with a success rate at least 90%
Keeping my fingers crossed


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Maybe you are right ,lets see ;)
300 euro is just for registration .

[puiu]

hello,
no one has to know about the new chip nec for esl?
Mercedes instrument and necpro57 sell new nec chip for esl , for case block nec chip for esl.
but they talk fungtion will like emulator, just solder new mcu to board ESL and personalize, and done.
no one has tried it? please share.

thx

I have few Nec chip for ESL ,but never used until now ,
the ESL i have done was with motor problem,
if i use the first one i post her results...

[bali motor]

no... i mean that mcu nec is new.. fungtion like emulator but install on original esl.
if you have MI tool. read data esl if LINE 0178 have AA, that is block nec.. can not be use.

[kashnut]

100% doesnt work , i didnt take my friend word for it so i went and saw it in my own eyes , it cant read password. i want those who said that it can read to show us vid of the process how it is done


IT is working....i have done 3 cars with bga version 68 and 75....it will not read password...but rather u neeed to read data of eis a few times and send roy the data and he wil calculate password.....
So if your friend cannot use then why doesnt he ask roy from diagspeed???

[puiu]

no... i mean that mcu nec is new.. fungtion like emulator but install on original esl.
if you have MI tool. read data esl if LINE 0178 have AA, that is block nec.. can not be use.

Yes i now what you mean ,
i have MI and i have a few NEW MCU,but never used
look in picture,
all used ESL i have it until now are not with blocked MCU.

[kashnut]

Looks god ,but dealer password for reset (renew) ESL is 100 euro / calculation (online of course) ,much higher than Mercedes Instrument - 50 usd ...
The great thing is the EZS IR password reader even if works in 70% of cases :)

DIAGSPEED DOESNT NEED ANY TOKENS AND ALL IS FREE....:)

[puiu]

no... i mean that mcu nec is new.. fungtion like emulator but install on original esl.
if you have MI tool. read data esl if LINE 0178 have AA, that is block nec.. can not be use.

I solder one new MCU in ESL and is working like original,ESL :

Get info ESL.Please wait...
Version ROM :F01408
Operational status.
ESL initialised : YES
ESL transport protection unlock : YES
ESL personalised : NO
ESL activated : NO
Key status.
Key N0 blocked : NO
Key N1 blocked : NO
Key N2 blocked : NO
Key N3 blocked : NO
Key N4 blocked : NO
Key N5 blocked : NO
Key N6 blocked : NO
Key N7 blocked : NO
Completed.

[bali motor]

Read dump esl please and post here dump from esl


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[bali motor]

DIAGSPEED DOESNT NEED ANY TOKENS AND ALL IS FREE....:)

Diagspeed not work 100% for dealer pasword . I have diagspeed and MI
Ask wsc. Him have all tools for new ezs. [ MI. Necpro, diagspeed. ]. Him make colection tools for new ezs.



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[aassfour]

retesting again diagspeed with another BGA key and still not working .................... how is it working with u mate ???

[bali motor]

Make dump by DS tools and need 15 dump. And send to him. And then wait one day for got password.


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[wsc]

@aassfour
what you mean mate ? u dont believe what i post ?
of course worked thats why i post it

[aassfour]

@aassfour
what you mean mate ? u dont believe what i post ?
of course worked thats why i post it
its not wt i mean , but maybe the V of the BGA isnt working , we have tested 2 BGA with V62

[wsc]

u can TV with me mate and see what i said , i dont know why urs didnt worked BUT in my case worked great ....

[puiu]

Read dump esl please and post here dump from esl


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Here is the file ,
but this MCU has no read function,
I can not read all memory
only virtual EEPROM ... by MI
would be fantastic to have the whole file, 8 KB Flash (256 bytes RAM)

microcontroller cost only a few euros and can be written with Beeprog

pass pm

[bali motor]

this line block mcu,
ESL Doctor from thelegent and keyprogtool can renew this line,
but need one days for do it... and they tools not satabil. hardware programmer easily damaged.
2500 usd loss money for ESL doctor..

[bali motor]

Diagspeed not work 100% for dealer pasword . I have diagspeed and MI
Ask wsc. Him have all tools for new ezs. [ MI. Necpro, diagspeed. ]. Him make colection tools for new ezs.



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With this post. diagspeed complaint with me.


If I am wrong I apologize.
but I speak the truth. I explain the truth. that such a DS tool.

Here the whole world will see, what is talking about here.

If a developer does not accept criticism, he would not successfully complete his work.

we are here to share experiences, and share knowledge, I here the user a tool, not a duplicate tool. just compare which tool is best.

If you are offended by my post. I apologize. there is no intention to denigrate your tool.

Thank you.....

[autodigitec]

this line block mcu,
ESL Doctor from thelegent and keyprogtool can renew this line,
but need one days for do it... and they tools not satabil. hardware programmer easily damaged.
2500 usd loss money for ESL doctor..

My programer actually got damaged once, it stoped reading v57 key password, they sent me a replacement before my corrupted hardware was received there.

Also, it never took me a day to renew a nec. Usually 2-4 hours, max it took me once was 8 hours. I always have necs in stock, so no issues leavong the device working at night.

I think it is a pretty good device. Expensive if you dont buy the ir/key reader aswell, otherwise its just a complement for other tools.

The eis password reader by ir by noimmo looks amazing and its not that expensive.
Does noimmo offline key calculator work with dumps read by external programmer like xprog, etc?

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[znakedwrx]

NoImmo has introduce few new options:

1) MB EVO4 Locksmith edition - 3300Euro
2) ESL/ELV Prog - 1000Euro
3) EZS/EIS password reader - 500Euro

Since we all know reliability & quality of MBE Group products - i guess we have finally the winner?

I never heard of diagspeed or mbinstruments - however i did saw few very reputable members saying that their products are good, but ***me personally*** will never know if those members got those products under "special-discounted" rates - to promote their products.

MBE Group did set their pricing very well and for me "the hunt for new MB solution is over" :)

[autodigitec]

You never heard of mercedes instruments, but you heard of mehaco which sells their device just with another name.

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[drivesure]

this changes the race - but elv function still cost 100euro per hash.

[autodigitec]

noimmo solution for elv is way too expensive. Other solutions are cheaper in the long way.
100 euro per hash/token is simply too much. No wonder their interfaces are not that expensive.

If you buy noimmo device, you can renew your ELV for 100euro and then save some cash by buying programming file from thelegendweb for 50 usd. (Yes, they sell it for people who are not costumers)

I feel like I'm repeating myself but im gonna fairly compare these again:
noimmo elv solution:
-Does not fix disabled ELVs (0xAA flag).
-Renews used ELV by in minutes. Have to pay 50€ (price was wrong)
-You still have to open the ELV to repair/replace the motor.
-File for personalizing the ELV costs another 50€. (price was wrong)

esl doctor solution:
-FIX disabled ELVs (0xAA flag).
-Renewing ELV can take between 1 and 8 hours (sometimes more). Free!
-You still have to open the ELV to repair/replace the motor. You need to desolder the nec. (10 seconds on hot air...)
-File for personalizing the ELV is free.

It's all about money vs time. If you have 1 or 2 renewed necs in stock, esl doctor is perfect.

In noimmo you have to pay 100€ to apply an used ELV.. Plus the cost of the ELV itself...

EDIT: fixed the post a little, price per token was wrong.

[aassfour]

this changes the race - but elv function still cost 100euro per hash.
cost is 50 euro
300 euro is just for account opening plus 3 token free
after that its just 50 euro

[aassfour]

noimmo solution for elv is way too expensive. Other solutions are cheaper in the long way.
100 euro per hash/token is simply too much. No wonder their interfaces are not that expensive.

If you buy noimmo device, you can renew your ELV for 100euro and then save some cash by buying programming file from thelegendweb for 50 usd. (Yes, they sell it for people who are not costumers)

I feel like I'm repeating myself but im gonna fairly compare these again:
noimmo elv solution:
-Does not fix disabled ELVs (0xAA flag).
-Renews used ELV by in minutes. Have to pay 100€ (not sure if it's always this value)
-You still have to open the ELV to repair/replace the motor.
-File for personalizing the ELV costs another 100€. (not sure if it's always this value)

esl doctor solution:
-FIX disabled ELVs (0xAA flag).
-Renewing ELV can take between 1 and 8 hours (sometimes more). Free!
-You still have to open the ELV to repair/replace the motor. You need to desolder the nec. (10 seconds on hot air...)
-File for personalizing the ELV is free.

It's all about money vs time. If you have 1 or 2 renewed necs in stock, esl doctor is perfect.

I mean. like reeeaaaally.. in noimmo you have to pay 200€ just to apply an used ELV.. Plus the cost of the ELV itself...
i m not on noimmo side by the prices u just stated are 100% wrong the cost is just 50 euro and done within minutes. send them an email and they will explain the process for u
thelegend tool is still good tool yes it has bugs like any other tool but it works

[autodigitec]

i m not on noimmo side by the prices u just stated are 100% wrong the cost is just 50 euro and done within minutes. send them an email and they will explain the process for u
thelegend tool is still good tool yes it has bugs like any other tool but it works

like I said "(not sure if it's always this value)", thanks for the info.

Being 50€ per calc is way better, and seems good.

[Vladko]

ESL Doctor fix disabled ELV,but did you test this?And if yes how many did you fix?Also after enable ELV becomes enabled but loose initialization,so after this you need to initialize ELV,it make this for seconds but after this don't want to personalize ELV,and at end you need to make ELV virgin.making ELV virgin is very very long process,and till now from 14 ELV only one becomes virgin.This ELV i programed and works 20times and than stops again disabled.I think my ESL Doctor is problem because never heard somebody else to complain,but also my tool died with no reason,this is very strange too.Only positive in this case is that Elie is very good man and will solve quick this situation.
P.S. File for ELV personalization cost 50$

[Siham]

Keylessprog from mercedesinstruments never failed me ,never buged.
Work like a charm.

[kashnut]

Diagspeed not work 100% for dealer pasword . I have diagspeed and MI
Ask wsc. Him have all tools for new ezs. [ MI. Necpro, diagspeed. ]. Him make colection tools for new ezs.



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i have DS MI SImontouch but i dun have NECPRO!!!!!!
:(

[autodigitec]

ESL Doctor fix disabled ELV,but did you test this?And if yes how many did you fix?Also after enable ELV becomes enabled but loose initialization,so after this you need to initialize ELV,it make this for seconds but after this don't want to personalize ELV,and at end you need to make ELV virgin.making ELV virgin is very very long process,and till now from 14 ELV only one becomes virgin.This ELV i programed and works 20times and than stops again disabled.I think my ESL Doctor is problem because never heard somebody else to complain,but also my tool died with no reason,this is very strange too.Only positive in this case is that Elie is very good man and will solve quick this situation.
P.S. File for ELV personalization cost 50$

Oh I thought thelegendweb offered the personalization file like simontouch does, since the devices are the same internally.

I've renewed quite a few necs already and sometimes it does have odd outcomes.
Like ssid+state are not reading, tp hash not reading and tp hash not correct.
For those, I do "Virgin" and just wait.
But this is only sometimes like I said.

I just started repairing another bunch of stock elvs and it's going ok with just "Initialize"+"Enable blocked"

http://i.imgur.com/6RLAVZ5.png

by the way, it's not important but I've only found 2 kinds(software or w/e) so far:

NEC label: A2C-45770 FW: E03006
NEC label: A2C-52724 FW: F01408 <- more recent

I heard one of these are faster to renew than the other.

[aassfour]

do u know anyone selling these nec ?

[puiu]

do u know anyone selling these nec ?

Aleksej from Mi sell with 100 euro/pcs ,tested and work fine

[aassfour]

Aleksej from Mi sell with 100 euro/pcs ,tested and work fine
can you post a link please

[puiu]

Sory but there is no link,you have to send him an email,
pm

[bali motor]

ESL Doctor fix disabled ELV,but did you test this?And if yes how many did you fix?Also after enable ELV becomes enabled but loose initialization,so after this you need to initialize ELV,it make this for seconds but after this don't want to personalize ELV,and at end you need to make ELV virgin.making ELV virgin is very very long process,and till now from 14 ELV only one becomes virgin.This ELV i programed and works 20times and than stops again disabled.I think my ESL Doctor is problem because never heard somebody else to complain,but also my tool died with no reason,this is very strange too.Only positive in this case is that Elie is very good man and will solve quick this situation.
P.S. File for ELV personalization cost 50$

I have esl doctor. First times tool come to me. Test 5 esl 2 esl can solved for AA flag. And my tool deid.. Talk with thelegent. Him need send back my tool. And him send back new tools with new soft. Test 10 mcu. Done just one .. And tool deid.. Hw need send again to him.. But how many cost for shipping?. First times him send back free cost. And next him need charge for shipping cost.. But im not yet send to him.. Maybe someone have same problem.. How to fix my hardware... Now my hardware can not detect in com laptop.

[totalkey]

Abritus got new update , look at abritus news


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[aassfour]

Abritus got new update , look at abritus news


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just adding key , there r still way behind other tools

[tunertool]

Its what other tools been doing for months...

[hamzadaw2000]

I think noimmo device the first choice to me after reading all members replay.
But one more think in case of all keys lost for w204 by noimmo I can program a new EZS and add keys or virgin a used one.



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[autodigitec]

All tools can program a new ezs in case of all lost keys.
Necpro57 sells renewed ezs for 250eur and you also have to buy a key to add. How will this be cheaper than getting key from dealer?

Regarding the avdi update, can someone post a picture of the latest NEC adapter for abprog?

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[Fallen]

I'm glad Abritus has finally pulled their finger out and started to catch up.
I can't remember the last time Mercedes got any updates.

[Siham]

Noimmo can renew EZS with nec v57 and v51 ?
Sure?:tears_of_joy:

[aassfour]

Noimmo can renew EZS with nec v57 and v51 ?
Sure?:tears_of_joy:
yes it can do it , but they didnt enable this option yet, as they explained me they will soon

[tunertool]

AVDI got a new mercedes developer recently... their last guy left :)

[autodigitec]

yes it can do it , but they didnt enable this option yet, as they explained me they will soon
You probably know, but that also will need a token to be used.

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[tunertool]

AVDI got a new mercedes developer recently... their last guy left :)

[Vladko]

... Now my hardware can not detect in com laptop.....
Mine died in same way.