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claudio35
10th January, 2014, 08:38 PM
Some of my adapters and dongle to read and write faster in circuit without desoldering with UPA homebrew

Meat-Head
10th January, 2014, 08:47 PM
cool what is the chip?

ULN2003 or something odd?

claudio35
10th January, 2014, 08:53 PM
Octal buffer/line driver

kokorocato
10th January, 2014, 10:42 PM
These adapters are great, 100% read in the circuit I used, manufactured by Claudio 35, and you save a lot of time and do not have to desolder .. thanks for sharing

H.Wessel
10th January, 2014, 11:01 PM
could you share the schema? even a hand made schema would be perfect.
thanks in advance

XmoDDeR
10th January, 2014, 11:11 PM
ooooooooooooo boy

motorsport
10th January, 2014, 11:35 PM
Some one have shema version with two hc74 i lost my shema

claudio35
11th January, 2014, 12:24 AM
Some one have shema version with two hc74 i lost my shema

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f174/need-upa-cables-347497/

H.Wessel
11th January, 2014, 01:04 AM
Bender post this schema long time ago but your pcb have more things:
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachments/f174/207115d1372745349-need-upa-cables-bender.jpg

I am needing to make an adapter because sometimes I have problems reading in circuit

PremierD
11th January, 2014, 01:36 AM
I am needing to make an adapter because sometimes I have problems reading in circuit....

solution :- remove the ****ers

H.Wessel
11th January, 2014, 02:19 AM
I am needing to make an adapter because sometimes I have problems reading in circuit....

solution :- remove the ****ers

I don't work only with cars, sometimes I have to work with pcbs that have epoxy and I have to read it several days, burn epoxy, desolder, read, and put epoxy again is at least one hour, put wires to the back and read is 10 minutes...

XmoDDeR
11th January, 2014, 02:37 AM
follow bender each person makes to suit thier own needs and likes
add to it and make it your own..

Meat-Head
11th January, 2014, 09:50 AM
and put epoxy again is at least one hour, put wires to the back and read is 10 minutes...

Can you explain what you use to remove the epoxy please, i have 3 aftermarket car immo, want to take dump off eeprom but solid
thanks

H.Wessel
11th January, 2014, 11:00 AM
Can you explain what you use to remove the epoxy please, i have 3 aftermarket car immo, want to take dump off eeprom but solid
thanks

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INSAT-BGA-EPOXY-GLUE-REMOVER-100mL-/330737163925

usually works like charm with epoxy

Meat-Head
11th January, 2014, 12:14 PM
Insat BGA Epoxy Glue Remover 100ml | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/INSAT-BGA-EPOXY-GLUE-REMOVER-100mL-/330737163925)

usually works like charm with epoxy


Off topic

good got some last september but because of the cost was going to tape all items together and drop it on - yes i'm that tight. Was going to wait 6 months when i have firgotten the high cost

claudio35
11th January, 2014, 03:04 PM
I use a heat gun and scalpel to remove the epoxy

how to remove epoxy resin and smd chips - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTPXKA66baQ)

88diablo
11th January, 2014, 04:56 PM
Nitro Moores paint stripper works great for me.

H.Wessel
11th January, 2014, 05:39 PM
I use a heat gun and scalpel to remove the epoxy

how to remove epoxy resin and smd chips - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTPXKA66baQ)

Sometimes works, but for example, the thing that has BMW's EWS is't hard to remove with hot, you have to put the air station near 500? and you can burn another component...

claudio35
11th January, 2014, 06:24 PM
Sometimes works, but for example, the thing that has BMW's EWS is't hard to remove with hot, you have to put the air station near 500? and you can burn another component...

If you're right, it should be practiced prior

claudio35
11th January, 2014, 11:59 PM
Tsoop cable adapter and soic8 cable adapter for Upa Usb.

martij976
12th January, 2014, 06:53 AM
Great job there claudio35 !!
Never thought about those adapters before, since started using carprog which is perfect for onboard readings.
But gives me an ideas! thanks

verica
12th January, 2014, 12:00 PM
claudio35 can i have scematics for this in circut adapter for upa

hcip
12th January, 2014, 12:31 PM
Mine is this....

verica
12th January, 2014, 12:34 PM
can i have schematics to do one for my upa usb i will be grateful to you hcip

claudio35
12th January, 2014, 04:18 PM
I think that helped with the "idea" to read and write without desoldering, no errors, no bridges, fast. I took the idea to observe how other tools work and "Capitan crackers" "HCPI" and others, but improve in many ways, and I think mine is better. It helped me in this "Xmodder! and "Momis". But everyone can develop their own scheme.

XmoDDeR
13th January, 2014, 09:34 PM
I think that helped with the "idea" to read and write without desoldering, no errors, no bridges, fast. I took the idea to observe how other tools work and "Capitan crackers" "HCPI" and others, but improve in many ways, and I think mine is better. It helped me in this "Xmodder! and "Momis". But everyone can develop their own scheme.

:top: great post . hope to see others soon

claudio35
13th January, 2014, 10:00 PM
Mine is this....

Hi Hcip, how, when and for what? use:top:

Thanks

claudio35
13th January, 2014, 10:16 PM
Clip test for eeprom "dip"

chrismoore02
14th January, 2014, 11:05 AM
Some good ideas here, got me thinking now :D:rolleyes:

XmoDDeR
14th January, 2014, 04:29 PM
Some good ideas here, got me thinking now :D:rolleyes:


always open to new ideas shop is open 24/7

KusTomCabl3S
15th January, 2014, 01:34 AM
Reading all these posts on cables and adapters .makes me want to go back into the shop and retool all my adapters my UPA adapter set is extensive and may be overkill but it does it all . My digiprog3 has some modded cables and other programmers that I don't see mentioned here.soon I will go public with my cables . Thanks for the good posts.

claudio35
15th January, 2014, 02:45 PM
Reading all these posts on cables and adapters .makes me want to go back into the shop and retool all my adapters my UPA adapter set is extensive and may be overkill but it does it all . My digiprog3 has some modded cables and other programmers that I don't see mentioned here.soon I will go public with my cables . Thanks for the good posts.

You can upload images from your cable modified?

paul2797
16th January, 2014, 02:14 PM
Some of my adapters and dongle to read and write faster in circuit without desoldering with UPA homebrew
i want this one adapter

oep
16th January, 2014, 02:45 PM
I want also, so i made it :eviltongue:

maybe go in mass production:smile:
(copyright bender)
240436
240437
240438

claudio35
16th January, 2014, 05:08 PM
I want also, so i made it :eviltongue:

maybe go in mass production:smile:
(copyright bender)
240436
240437
240438


But this does not solve 100% As explained before.

nomis
16th January, 2014, 05:50 PM
[QUOTE=claudio35;2199599"HCPI" "Momis". .[/QUOTE]

HCPI = Hcip/(or what she want lol ) & Momis = nomis/or what he want lol lol ........

claudio35
16th January, 2014, 07:46 PM
HCPI = Hcip/(or what she want lol ) & Momis = nomis/or what he want lol lol ........

Sorry, Nomis and hcip, does not matter, at least I remember:joyous:

kelekele
16th January, 2014, 08:48 PM
Have some questions:
1.With this adapter reading of SPI and I2C eeproms onboard is safe and without bad readings or bad writing?
2.Reading or writing of motorola mcu is without leggs up?
Where to download schematic for upa onboard r/w adapter?
Thanx!

super jumbe
16th January, 2014, 09:09 PM
Can you explain what you use to remove the epoxy please,

Few drops of brake flude will remove anything!!

claudio35
17th January, 2014, 12:42 AM
Have some questions:
1.With this adapter reading of SPI and I2C eeproms onboard is safe and without bad readings or bad writing?
2.Reading or writing of motorola mcu is without leggs up?
Where to download schematic for upa onboard r/w adapter?
Thanx!


1..Yes,and also without making bridge in "xtal"

2. I've only tested and works with motorola 9s12

elephantul
17th January, 2014, 11:07 AM
stupid thread, is only play, look cable ,look is no cable, if you want to sell ,then tell i whant to sell, if want to help members put complet schematic with pass or without pass, why provide incomplete solution ?

claudio35
17th January, 2014, 05:58 PM
stupid thread, is only play, look cable ,look is no cable, if you want to sell ,then tell i whant to sell, if want to help members put complet schematic with pass or without pass, why provide incomplete solution ?

Friend, do not want to sell, Live in South America at the end of the world, "but fish cooked or teach you to fish." "Search", you get the idea, look, you read and start here and then adds something and exchange ideas:


http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f174/upa-adapters-270728/


There are other "friends" who have adapters and share nothing, I do have shared my idea and scheme With Other users, but bring something, I do have shared my scheme With Other users and free.


If you look up 0 contributions, Contribute Your first ....

elephantul
18th January, 2014, 07:12 AM
well..., then congratulation for intention to teach another member to ,,hunt fish'' , but why do that ? ,i think you want to improve you schematic and want ideeas from member who built interface with succes, i dont think they share with you this things,if want help from other members, put complet schematic and ask for help to improve



i dont use in circuit programing, i am adept of safety read an write, i alwais read out of circuit ,in adapter with soldering memory legs in adapter, use elnec, newer have fail


peace, but i think this is true

KusTomCabl3S
18th January, 2014, 07:55 AM
stupid thread, is only play, look cable ,look is no cable, if you want to sell ,then tell i whant to sell, if want to help members put complet schematic with pass or without pass, why provide incomplete solution ?

I somewhat understand what you mean. But listen DK is one if not the best forum , the layout is great and you learn alot here. Alot I f members dont put the leg work in and dont know how to bait thier hook much less fish. They rather have others fish for them. You better understand and appreciate out craft when you know how a device works. Then expand on it. Incircuit UPa is one of the biggest topics here the solution can be a few diodes a rectifier bridge a few buffer caps resistors etc. Simple to extraordinary. Its a voltage drop circuit ..the answer to that is everywhere and can be done multiple ways. Some members teach other members by forcing them to use thier brains and that's a good thing because when u learn to fish u wont forget . Some members just out right refuse to help. Yes sharing is great.but doesn't always happen how many mem er in this same post have UPA scripts?? Have you shared them??
Lets be civil take a deep breath and think about this and I bet you will have the solution too.

elephantul
18th January, 2014, 08:11 AM
........ Some members teach other members by forcing them to use thier brains and that's a good thing because when u learn to fish u wont forget .........


come on .... in what world you live ? in utopia or something else ? ..............

KusTomCabl3S
18th January, 2014, 08:49 AM
come on .... in what world you live ? in utopia or something else ? ..............


Brother not picking a fight with you . And no it is not a utopia if it was we would have no wars and love all our brother regardless of color Credc

It not a perfect world by far but the ones that survive are the ones who use thier brains.

And by the way my friend all four designs of my incircuit work. And I gave u the solution and u didn't see it.

Thanks Claudio great pictures and work you are a good fisherman.

claudio35
18th January, 2014, 03:49 PM
See the link just above, it all started there Also look at the date, I always want to help, as others help me, but many here just waiting for "help". Also they ask and ask for help did not respond, except "xmodder"


First picture:
part1 "buffer" ------> search datasheet


part2 ------>"voltage control"

The end


This not only works with upa, Attached images, other commercial character

claudio35
12th February, 2014, 11:13 PM
Clip test for Honda Jazz Fit pilot etc

H.Wessel
13th February, 2014, 12:37 AM
See the link just above, it all started there Also look at the date, I always want to help, as others help me, but many here just waiting for "help". Also they ask and ask for help did not respond, except "xmodder"


First picture:
part1 "buffer" ------> search datasheet


part2 ------>"voltage control"

The end


This not only works with upa, Attached images, other commercial character

So you use in first part an actal buffer like 74hc244 and later you put 3 diodes to get 3v?

claudio35
13th February, 2014, 01:17 AM
So you use in first part an actal buffer like 74hc244 and later you put 3 diodes to get 3v?

Yes and not, 1 diode = -0.3votts

H.Wessel
13th February, 2014, 01:36 AM
Yes and not, but 8 diodes, 1 diode = -0.3votts

oh I see, so if you take bender's scheme with 74hc and put diodes to vcc line to get 3v must be the same I think. Why do you change 74hc for octal buffer?
Thanks fro your help

plasma533
13th February, 2014, 01:45 AM
interested in this subject as getting into in-circuit reading and reading the members posts is proving useful for learning on what works and how to make things better :)

claudio35
23rd March, 2014, 06:43 PM
Video soic 8 clip home made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvTy2U989rQ&feature=youtu.be

bodzio012
23rd March, 2014, 10:08 PM
Mates!!!
Working this adapter or not???

claudio35
23rd March, 2014, 11:23 PM
Mates!!!
Working this adapter or not???

Yes, working

bodzio012
24th March, 2014, 09:56 AM
Ok, thanks mate, I will try.

H.Wessel
24th March, 2014, 01:41 PM
Ok, thanks mate, I will try.

This schema is not working perfect, I think that you have to put 4x 1N4007 diodes to get 3v at VCC pin in eeprom.

Like this:
251949

antibisic
24th March, 2014, 01:58 PM
Why is this adapter necesary if you can low voltage on upa on 3,3 v?

claudio35
24th March, 2014, 06:20 PM
Why is this adapter necesary if you can low voltage on upa on 3,3 v?


That depends on you ... For me it is necessary. the new upa has something similar

claudio35
24th March, 2014, 06:23 PM
Yes, working

working only as buffer, but also requires modifying the voltages.

scip2
25th March, 2014, 05:21 PM
Hi Hcip, how, when and for what? use:top:

Thanks
all in one

toastedsiopao
1st May, 2014, 01:18 AM
Mates!!!
Working this adapter or not???

May I ask what is the use of this kind of adapter? Because what I only see is a inverting buffer.

XmoDDeR
27th January, 2015, 08:21 PM
SOlutions ?............anything working ? I typically use a very old device ar32 works great incircuit reading

digimile
28th January, 2015, 12:17 AM
hi
new upa need adapters for incircuit read write ??? or we can make cables according to help files.....??
thanks

claudio35
28th January, 2015, 12:53 AM
hi
new upa need adapters for incircuit read write ??? or we can make cables according to help files.....??
thanks

I have no new upa, so you see the captain can help us

captain crackers
28th January, 2015, 01:16 AM
I use the same adapter on the old and new UPA. Also I only use 3.3 and 5 volts for eeproms. Not tried any other way. Arthur.

toastedsiopao
7th June, 2015, 11:59 AM
Mates!!!
Working this adapter or not???

Just wondering with this adapter design, why does the diode goes with pin 8 of the DB9? The supply of eeprom is from the pin 9 of DB9.

km-digital
7th June, 2015, 12:36 PM
It is easy

If you want to share charge scheme

IF NOT PUT A PRICE SCHEME

THANKS

XmoDDeR
7th June, 2015, 12:55 PM
it wasnt a good solution , had its faults

toastedsiopao
7th June, 2015, 01:41 PM
Mates!!!
Working this adapter or not???

I'll implement this on a non-schmitt trigger octal buffer.

toastedsiopao
7th June, 2015, 02:15 PM
I just don't agree putting a series of diodes going out of pin 9 of DB9 to put the logic level of the buffer at around 3.0V.

The voltage input HIGH and voltage input low of the buffers are affected by the Vcc change, so adjusting the Vcc of buffers at around 3.0V will cause errors when the UPA's output is set at 5.0V. So better adjust the voltage at the UPA side.

claudio35
7th June, 2015, 05:47 PM
It is a good solution 100% flawless. In circuit never a corrupt dump

version 1 and version 2, is same

toastedsiopao
7th June, 2015, 11:02 PM
what is the DIP switch for?

toastedsiopao
7th June, 2015, 11:06 PM
Ok, 1st guess.

For PIN 2 and 6 of the DB9 to become bidirectional.

claudio35
8th June, 2015, 01:43 PM
what is the DIP switch for?

It is to adjust the voltage, the lower voltage better reading

toastedsiopao
8th June, 2015, 03:17 PM
So the voltage to be lowered is from the PIN 9 of UPA.

So it will be 3.0V to the Vcc of the buffer and also 3.0V to the Vcc of the EEPROM, or Vcc of the buffer is directly from UPA, while the adjustable Vcc (via DIP switch) is for the eeprom only?

toastedsiopao
8th June, 2015, 03:23 PM
And how many voltage steps did you put? Thanks.

toastedsiopao
8th June, 2015, 03:32 PM
Schematic without the voltage adjustment.

toastedsiopao
10th June, 2015, 08:44 AM
Is the voltage dip adjustment after the buffer ic or before the buffer ic?

roman_auto
10th June, 2015, 01:08 PM
does someone sell this adapter to read in circuit ?

toastedsiopao
10th June, 2015, 02:01 PM
No one sells it, that is why I am making one and I am sharing it here.

Anyway, it is not as easy to assume that when we lower the voltage of the target with this buffer, it means already a good read of data, as we do not know the same parameters of UPA.

Here is the parameter for the sn74hc244.

I will try to read in-circuit this weekend by configuring UPA @ 3.3V, setting the buffer IC at 2.0V (target also at 2.0V) if there will be any error and of the writing is not also affected.

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=317454&stc=1http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=317455&stc=1

lwood
10th June, 2015, 06:52 PM
does someone sell this adapter to read in circuit ?
PM
PM xmodder (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/243682-xmodder) or captain crackers (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/180118-captain-crackers), they sell incircuit adapter for UPA

beto corsa2
10th June, 2015, 10:07 PM
bien ,yo compre un upa usb y lo voy a tener en cuenta .

paulocallaghan
11th June, 2015, 06:06 AM
Is it possible to read 52 pin Motorolla MCU with hc05b16 in circuit with UPA device ?

digimile
11th June, 2015, 11:53 AM
hi
with 4 wires u can read Motorola hc05b16...tx,rx,gnd,+5v
thanks

XmoDDeR
11th June, 2015, 01:04 PM
Is it possible to read 52 pin Motorolla MCU with hc05b16 in circuit with UPA device ?
incircuit is for EPROM READING ONLY certain MCU is different and can be done as other member stated .

Tachodiag
11th June, 2015, 08:32 PM
hi
with 4 wires u can read Motorola hc05b16...tx,rx,gnd,+5v
thanks
I dont think so...

toastedsiopao
11th June, 2015, 10:45 PM
incircuit is for EPROM READING ONLY certain MCU is different and can be done as other member stated .

If you want to do in circuit with almost a number of MCU, you can make another adapter that has a bidirectional single pin, you can adjust the direction by using dip switch or look for an IC that is capable of bidirectional communication automatically, or better program another microcontroller which does so.

Anyway, I am thinking of replacing the buffer with a microcontroller, LOL.

toastedsiopao
12th June, 2015, 12:09 PM
I got the issue now on the use of diodes on the target board, it is because the target board is trying to source excessive amount of current than the UPA board can provide to the target board, the effect is the UPA Vcc out at pin 9 of the DB9 goes down and the UPA Vcc auto detect error senses it and does not continue with programming or reading.

Anyway, I'll provide the schematic and layout of the ISP adapter later, with the additional diodes at pin 9.

digimile
12th June, 2015, 03:02 PM
hi
give a try using pin P2,P3,P5 and P9 and read write all ok..

toastedsiopao
12th June, 2015, 03:29 PM
I already tried the adapter, in circuit and on stand alone. It works, but some board requires lowering of target voltage due to loading. I designed another board with built in dip switch and diode, and another board without dip switch and diodes. But I also made another board containing nothing but dip switch and diodes lol.

Of course I can share it here if someone wants it.

claudio35
12th June, 2015, 07:42 PM
you must put at least one capacitor

claudio35
12th June, 2015, 07:44 PM
incircuit is for EPROM READING ONLY certain MCU is different and can be done as other member stated .


Nooooo............................................ ..........................................

toastedsiopao
12th June, 2015, 08:45 PM
I put capacitor in the decoupling.

toastedsiopao
13th June, 2015, 12:23 PM
Buffer board before Voltage Adjust Board
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=317937&stc=1

Voltage Adjust Board - DIP switch with Four Diodes - just series the diodes and parallel each DIP switch with every diode.
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=317943&stc=1

Buffer board connected to UPA EEPROM Adapter
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=317939&stc=1

Voltage Adjust Board before Buffer Board
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=317940&stc=1

Buffer Board - 2x SN74HC244Q - used two to avoid double sided board or jumpers. You can also use any CMOS buffer. Just check the range of voltage inputs.
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=317941&stc=1

toastedsiopao
13th June, 2015, 12:44 PM
Schematic diagram for the dual sn74hc244 with built in DIP switch and diodes.

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=317951&stc=1

Kermolek79
14th June, 2015, 11:44 AM
I think this is bad !!!

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=318062&stc=1

toastedsiopao
14th June, 2015, 01:11 PM
Vin max of what?

Vcc max of SN74HC244 is 6V.

Kermolek79
14th June, 2015, 01:18 PM
V in - input voltage level max is 0.3+Vcc
A1,A2,A3,A4 pin max HIGH state is 0.3+Vcc

toastedsiopao
14th June, 2015, 01:28 PM
I still cannot get you, post the part of the datasheet that says so.

toastedsiopao
14th June, 2015, 02:35 PM
Where is the part you are talking about?

And your post does not make sense, you are talking about Vcc, then at the signal inputs there is Vcc+0.3V? Where would the circuit get the extra 0.3V?

Just check the datasheet.

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=318074&stc=1


http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=318075&stc=1

toastedsiopao
14th June, 2015, 03:05 PM
Another version of the buffer, optional external power source pins.

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=318077&stc=1

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=318078&stc=1

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=318079&stc=1

Kermolek79
14th June, 2015, 04:06 PM
your buffor only work correct when you set 3v3 in upa but without 4 your diodes

when set 5v with 4 your diodes is bad without 4 your diodes is ok
look http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/74HC_HCT244.pdf
look on page 1:
Inputs include clamp diodes
that enable the use of current limiting resistors to interface inputs to voltages in excess of
VCC .

page8:

VI input voltage max VCC

V input - 0.6V diode in structure hc244 go to TVCC this is problem !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remove 4 diodes and set voltage 3.3 or 5 in upa and will be work :)

toastedsiopao
14th June, 2015, 04:32 PM
Vcc is from UPA, TVCC is Vcc - diode setting.

TVCC is dependent on the DIP switch, it can be 0.7, 1.4, 2.1 or 2.8.

The use of diodes is to avoid the TARGET BOARD sourcing excessive current and therefore pulling Vcc (pin 9 of UPA) below limit.

The clamp diode use is for the 74HC244 accept excessive V input at the signal pins (quite not relevant here, as we know UPA signal max is around Vcc), and you need to put a series resistor just in case o use the clamp.

UPA functions w/ or without the diodes, as long as the target can accept the tolerable signal levels at give supply voltage.

So still you cannot answer directly if what will be the problem...

Kermolek79
14th June, 2015, 05:12 PM
For accept high voltage like VCC is need use specialized IC or level logic translator for signal ( when UPA send signal )
But make what you want

This is samples
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=318085&stc=1

Your project with diodes is no proffesional
sorry

digimile
14th June, 2015, 06:24 PM
hi
but in new upa we can adjust voltage from very low like 1.0 volt to 5.0 volts....with new upa all eeprom read write all ok without any special adapter between target device and upa...thanks

neospeedo
14th June, 2015, 06:26 PM
digi, have you tried with all eeproms?!

Niaz
14th June, 2015, 06:28 PM
Even every things work fine with special adapter's but why i remove chip from board maybe i need psychiatrist ? lol...

neospeedo
14th June, 2015, 06:34 PM
corrupting an eeprom can become a very unpleasant experience... may cause mental disorders?

clusters
14th June, 2015, 07:35 PM
corrupting an eeprom can become a very unpleasant experience... may cause mental disorders?

:roflmao: Specially if you didn't save a copy of original.

honingkoning
14th June, 2015, 09:55 PM
hi
but in new upa we can adjust voltage from very low like 1.0 volt to 5.0 volts....with new upa all eeprom read write all ok without any special adapter between target device and upa...thanks

Are u sure about that, for me dont work and also Other members complaint that its not ok in circuit reading.

Wbr Adam.

bearheroes
14th June, 2015, 11:10 PM
There is a member here Zmann...
He sells some mods for UPA Programmer and in circuit eeprom reading/writing works perfect.
No adapter or anything...

toastedsiopao
14th June, 2015, 11:20 PM
For accept high voltage like VCC is need use specialized IC or level logic translator for signal ( when UPA send signal )
But make what you want

This is samples
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=318085&stc=1

Your project with diodes is no proffesional
sorry


I can understand your point, but the power for the buffer ic comes from the upa not from the output of the diodes. The diode is for the target eeprom in the board.

As good as finding fault that does not exist, why not post a solution?

Niaz
15th June, 2015, 07:42 PM
corrupting an eeprom can become a very unpleasant experience... may cause mental disorders?
Happened two time in history 1 is easy deal 2nd 1 month to sort it out lol ........

toastedsiopao
18th June, 2015, 11:42 AM
I see now the drawbacks of using a plain buffer..

Got a new design using a logic level converter.

The 7404 buffer and 74HC244, even the 74HC345 buffers will not work with I2C, so I doubt the ones posted here work well with I2C eeproms.

KusTomCabl3S
18th June, 2015, 02:40 PM
why members dont share exploits

testit34
21st June, 2015, 06:34 PM
Hi
Any new updates to this project ?
Thanks

toastedsiopao
21st June, 2015, 10:43 PM
Which project?

testit34
21st June, 2015, 11:55 PM
Hi
Coming up with a circuit to read eeproms in circuit. I know you were working on it for awhile.
Thanks

scip2
10th July, 2015, 03:12 PM
i don't have problem reading I2c using upa for 8 years without soldering/desoldering 12c

TR0UBLESH00TER
10th July, 2015, 04:21 PM
If this adapter work only for eeproms dont worth the the effort to build it ...would be more interesting a version for MCU reading

captain crackers
10th July, 2015, 05:11 PM
TROUBLESHOOTER As the UPA reads all supported micros in circuit (well at least mine does), what would be the point of it? Arthur.

TR0UBLESH00TER
10th July, 2015, 05:34 PM
Well , I meant to say without pin lifting ,it is a stressful operation for me ,but I think more training should help :hmmmm2:
The general ideea of the circuit (lowering voltages and increasing pin current ) is good ...today played with my unmodded UPA and see how a load of 10 mA (470ohms @ 5volts ) kill the the traffic on a 24cxx ,either SDA or SCL...

mawar
10th July, 2015, 06:32 PM
hi mate...upa original + in circuit adapters from " Arthur " can do...

Zmann
11th July, 2015, 02:52 AM
Modification on-the-board and maintaining the original nine-pin output possibily the effectiveness to most taget device.

If ones in doubt try HC11 on IAW 8P.xx in circuit with ori UPA !

toastedsiopao
11th July, 2015, 12:27 PM
The question is not on current sinking, how can you sink more current if you will not increase voltage. The issue on this one is how to power up the target MCU or the EEPROM without powering up all the components near it.

I found a FET that can do program eeproms and it is bi-directional, so there is a high probability that it can also do microcontrollers.

Zmann
13th July, 2015, 04:43 AM
All resistors for current limit in all signalling/control pins seem too high and can be considerably lower. But again the sinking capability of the drivers is still limited, that's the point that need correction too!

pimpin
16th July, 2015, 05:39 AM
HI CLAUDIO YOU WANT SOLD YOUR DEVICE ADAPTER ? PRICE AND SHIPPED TO USA PLEASE THAN YOU

hcip
31st August, 2017, 09:37 PM
Some of my adapters and dongle to read and write faster in circuit without desoldering with UPA homebrew


I think this will be better

https://image.ibb.co/kYGYSQ/UPA_adapder_layout.jpg

Best ragards

kaalis
7th January, 2021, 02:39 PM
Let's say I want to read MC68HC05B16 mcu with upa usb 1.3 clone. But this time without soldering to make process a little faster.
Does it makes sense to even try to solder extending wires in between adapter board and actual plcc52 socket?

Also need to swap wires for socket pins because mcu will put in socket from the other side.

newgeniehex
10th January, 2021, 06:55 PM
HELLO
it is my adapter work perfect whit 2X SN74HC14N

jl01152
29th April, 2022, 02:50 AM
What IC is this?


I think this will be better

https://image.ibb.co/kYGYSQ/UPA_adapder_layout.jpg

Best ragards