VW MK6 with KESSY key and remote programming

[rrador]

I had my second jetta with kessy today and again having problems with this car.
First time i had one with all keys lost and could not program the key...I only had a datasmart clone.

AToday I had another one for a spare key and used VVDI, added key fine but it will not start.
And I can not preogram remotes even with VAG COM.

Is there any different steps for cars with kessy that I'm missing?

The key I used was used oem key with new chip in it. Maybe that is the problem too for some reason, but Inver have any issues with non kessy cars.

Thanks,

[autofan1965]

For kessy you need key for kessy. When you programed it with vvdi just place it near start/stop button and press start.

[robert81]

what transponder sits in kessy keys?

[exe123]

It's using the new BCM key. Still Megamos48 but transponder is soldered to remote board.
Remote is learned to BCM.

[rrador]

I did have the right key, same part number from same car. But the key looks exactly the same inside as all other new VW keys with 48 chip soldered to the board.
On all other keys taking that chip off and gluing blank 48 works fine and I did same with this one, unless this messes with kessy operation somehow.
I tried everything to program remotes, went into all the modules and could not figure it out. It sux because I wiped out the original remote to so now that one does not work either.

[rrador]

For kessy you need key for kessy. When you programed it with vvdi just place it near start/stop button and press start.

I tried that and also tried holding it near where normally the ignition switch is but nothing happened

[autofan1965]

When you are smarter then dont ask. I will not repeat 10 times same things. Put start stop key with key. When you will working remote and you know better how it works then just show us:)

[keygargoil]

exactly what make model and engine does it have also is it flick key or proximity

[rrador]

2011 Jetta TDI, and it is flip key part number ending with F

[chriskross]

Kessy models not supported by avdi yet !

[obdsystems]

Kessy models not supported by avdi yet !

What does do these if not our AVDI ?? ?

Hopefully coming soon
Cheers

[Maartinj]

I........ But the key looks exactly the same inside as all other new VW keys with 48 chip soldered to the board.
On all other keys taking that chip off and gluing blank 48 works fine and I did same with this one, unless this messes with kessy operation somehow.........
Here is a screen from KESSY KEY MK6
KESSy KEy use 2 CHIP, one is horizontal, one is vertical
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/23/54ve.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/0n54vej)

All other key use only a TOP immo chip.

[paul_12345]

Here is a screen from KESSY KEY MK6
KESSy KEy use 2 CHIP, one is horizontal, one is vertical
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/23/54ve.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/0n54vej)

All other key use only a TOP immo chip.

these are just 2 coils are they not??

[Maartinj]

Yes, 2
One on the top (as normal)
another one is beetwen buttons

[obdsystems]

I've seen this on a renault smart card also :)

one for short distance coil as standard, other longer distance. the p/n would tell more

[Bllinda]

One of the key in the morning?
Other coil central locking?

[Maartinj]

I was try to read that chip outside a key
Key is not recognize via AVDI as MEGAMOS 48 ,
I desolder 2nd one - also did not recognize

But when they are both solder to the board - all is fine , recognize key as typical MEGAMOS 48
When one is desolder - rest of KEy board is not recognize too,
I think is Megamos 48 and look like coil on it need to do some "activation" to read ?

I also damage coil from typical Megamos48 and key is not recognioze
Any advice are welcome .

[yugo45]

I was try to read that chip outside a key
Key is not recognize via AVDI as MEGAMOS 48 ,
I desolder 2nd one - also did not recognize

But when they are both solder to the board - all is fine , recognize key as typical MEGAMOS 48
When one is desolder - rest of KEy board is not recognize too,
I think is Megamos 48 and look like coil on it need to do some "activation" to read ?

I also damage coil from typical Megamos48 and key is not recognioze
Any advice are welcome .

I think only way to this key is buy one direct from dealer precoded to car VIN.
Read immo data and key ID , add key ID to immo data and write immo data back.
I think this will work, I have not try yet but it make sense.
I am sure that one coil is for Immo data , other one is for Kessy.

If anyone find this to be true let us know.

Thanks

[Maartinj]

Finally I have update
KessyKey must be a Kessy KEY .
Can not be a typical Megamos, because Kessy system must detect / activate KEy fia Frequency.

[autofan1965]

How look remote learning?

[yugo45]

How look remote learning?

Remote should adopt automatically after key is programed to car , like Audi A6 , VW Touareg,
Someone correct me if I am wrong!!!

[rrador]

Remote should adopt automatically after key is programed to car , like Audi A6 , VW Touareg,
Someone correct me if I am wrong!!!

Looks like that's how it works on kessy cars...No separate remote learning process.
One car that i tried programming second key and deleted the remote (car was starting but remote did not work) even dealer could not reprogram the remote they had to program a new key.