Miracle A9 is Cloned Named SEC-E9 !!!! Feedback here

[didi_du_93000]

Hello All,


this is the china clone of Miracle A9.

Anyone can give feedback???


I think i will bought it for test it.

Price is very good... Like 1800$ when the original is 5800$.

>> Qualified Locksmith Tools Full Automatic Key Cutting Machine Sec-E9 (http://www.autotoolscan.com/e/product/pro16/Auto%20Key%20Cutting%20Machine/p1897.html)

[totalkey]

I seen it for 1400$ don't remember where


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[securipro38]

Hi
another link with prices about 1500 euros free shipping :)
Wholesale Locksmith Supplies - Buy DHL SEC-E9 CNC Automatic Key Machine Key Cutting Machine Auto Key Duplicate Machine with Cutter/Genuine Software Check Teeth, $1989.53 | DHgate (http://www.dhgate.com/product/dhl-sec-e9-cnc-automatic-key-machine-key/187377308.html#s1-2-1|1013195711)
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[didi_du_93000]

Question is full working like original MIRACLE A9 ????

[totalkey]

why not? its only motor and some metal parts:)

[didi_du_93000]

why not? its only motor and some metal parts:)


It's true but the precision is very important... Right?

[Automat]

CNC machines just keep on rolling out of China:beer:, this is getting interesting.

[paul_12345]

CNC machines just keep on rolling out of China:beer:, this is getting interesting.

you wont be saying that when every shop, garage, car dealer etc has one and a knock off mvp pro undercutting us all

[didi_du_93000]

A long video about this cutter.

it's like good!!!!
You will see the user decode some key and even cut new key.

????????????????????????? (http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjg3MTc4OTg0.html)

[rapidlocksmiths]

i spoke to some chinese locksmiths i know , they say full of bugs and problems at mo , their advice was avoid until fixed

[THeFOg]

you wont be saying that when every shop, garage, car dealer etc has one and a knock off mvp pro undercutting us all

It's already here in San Diego every pin and pot got high-sec and MVP and think he can do everything but knowledge is above all.


Thank you for your time

[lidons]

works like miracle-a9?
you can change the language?
would be nice to have a bit more info.

[totalkey]

works like miracle-a9?
you can change the language?
would be nice to have a bit more info.

buy and let us know

[Phase 4 autokey]

you wont be saying that when every shop, garage, car dealer etc has one and a knock off mvp pro undercutting us all

Are we not already to that point Paul?

[paul_12345]

Are we not already to that point Paul?

whole new level when they all have cheap knock off cut to code,

now they can all start to offer cut key to code for ?2.50 so then we are going to get people who've already brought a key off ebay got the car pass and had the key cut to code, then want the thing programming for nothing

and also they can now offer some lost keys jobs for next to nothing without having to get someone to cut the key for them

[THeFOg]

whole new level when they all have cheap knock off cut to code,

now they can all start to offer cut key to code for ?2.50 so then we are going to get people who've already brought a key off ebay got the car pass and had the key cut to code, then want the thing programming for nothing

and also they can now offer some lost keys jobs for next to nothing without having to get someone to cut the key for them



Got them all day long !!! They get it program at swap-meet for $25-$50.

Don't want this type of customers. We can't get every business's out there but I get the business that I want - QUALITY CUSTOMERS ALWAYS REFER OTHERS QUALITY CUSTOMERS.


Thank you for your time

[ninja123]

i spoke to some chinese locksmiths i know , they say full of bugs and problems at mo , their advice was avoid until fixed

Are the bugs inhereted from the original?

I see you have a new (or old) employer mate, nice sun glasses lol, looks like you will do this business proud mate, well done!!

ninja

[autoTkey]

I got information from Qinuo who were the first distributor of the machine(they don't manufacture it).
They told me they will quit offering it to heir customers because of many problems with the quality. I'm not sure if this is true, though.

[didi_du_93000]

I got information from Qinuo who were the first distributor of the machine(they don't manufacture it).
They told me they will quit offering it to heir customers because of many problems with the quality. I'm not sure if this is true, though.

Very strange....

I have ask Eva from QINUO and she tel me full working and all customer are very happy about this cutter.

[strat]

QINUO is right they were only resellers and have stop selling this unit due to many issues.. other china stores still try sell it.

I have had nothing but problems since being a early adopter back in June for one of these machine.. i actually have 2 of these now just sitting here doing nothing.

pretty sure the factory making these is kkkcut.com

anyone else got one of these now ??

[diagprog7]

You can pay more attention to China Condor XC-007 CNC machine, VVDI equipment, BMW OBD, are all from a company.

[strat]

so i been talking with the manufacturer and it looks like they have a new update out but i need to send my main board back and LCD screen for the update which is annoying.. it cannot be done by USB... Releases after this update can be done by USB/online.

Also, they now have a built in (instacode) database like condor which is new.. so I hope most my problems are solved. Still thinking about sending back for the update or selling machine and buying the condor??

[strat]

So anyone else got one of these machines.. or am i the only one on here??

I actually must say been quite happy with the new updates on this.. and cutting has improved MUCH better.. actually using this machine now.

[dave11674]

so would you say its worth the cash mate ?
whats it like compared to the X8/V6 ???

and what kinda keys can it cut ?

dave

[strat]

I'm still not confident to use to decode some keys.. but cutting to code is a huge improvement with the latest update... never purchase the v6/v8/condor so can't compare em.. I nearly sold it off early days of owning it and looked at buying the condor... but seems the condor has its own issues.

[strat]

tried cutting a VA2 citroen key today via code and it failed miserably.. distroying my cutter!

Need to buy another cutter now :(

Where do you guys buy cutters from at decent prices?

[Weasel3]

Decoder is copy. Cutter in the middle is copy. And the original from Miracle is on the right side.

Cutter - Need to buy 10 pieces. Price pr. piece. US $8.70
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/free-shipping-2mm-carbide-end-milling-cutter-00A5-CNC-flat-end-mill-for-MIRACLE-A5-A7/1708490128.html Original have 4 shear cuts, this copy here has only 3 shear cuts.

Decoder - Need to buy 10 pieces. Price pr. piece. US $6.60
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1mm-tracer-points-for-MIRACLE-A5-A7-A9-key-cutting-machines/1669654152.html

[simaservis1108]

That is way overpriced for a cutter.

I can get German cutters that cut Chinese keys like knife thru butter for half the price of that.

[strat]

That is way overpriced for a cutter.

I can get German cutters that cut Chinese keys like knife thru butter for half the price of that.

Links ??????

[simaservis1108]

No link,it is a local buy.

I can get a label picture.

[strat]

No link,it is a local buy.

I can get a label picture.

yes please post a picture of it.. thanks!

I was looking at these (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Miracle-A5-A9-Cutter-2mm-6mm-x-2mm-cutter-and-tracer-point-1mm-6mm-x-1mm/1689187819.html)

But sent a email off to kkkcut to see what they come back with first..

[simaservis1108]

On label there is only written 2mm Cutter HSS.
Made in Germany.

I can buy these for you and send you.
I just cut one VA2 blade with this cutter,it did the job perfectly.

[strat]

what machine you using to cut?

How much are they i would need them shipped to AU :)

[simaservis1108]

I am using Silca Club - very old machine,but reliable.

[whiskeyman]

On label there is only written 2mm Cutter HSS.
Made in Germany.

I can buy these for you and send you.
I just cut one VA2 blade with this cutter,it did the job perfectly.

could you buy 10 for me to test please I paypal you

[strat]

Get me prices on them to please.

[viw9419]

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[simaservis1108]

Guys,our member "Fallen" will get measurements of the cutter he uses on his A9.
Then we compare it with this cutter.

I tell you,nothing can compare with this one.In terms of cutting strong keys.

[Fallen]

Guys,our member "Fallen" will get measurements of the cutter he uses on his A9.
Then we compare it with this cutter.

I tell you,nothing can compare with this one.In terms of cutting strong keys.

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=311619&stc=1

[simaservis1108]

OK,your cutter against mine measurements.

Shaft Length - Your 40.9mm x Mine 30mm
Cantilever Length - Your 14mm x Mine 10mm
Cutter Length - Your 6mm x Mine 4mm
Shaft Diameter - Your 6mm x Mine 6mm

I think this can fit A9 Machines perfectly.

Photos of the cutter will be uploaded tonight.

[Fallen]

The cutting length is important.
The A9 uses the length of the blade to cut flat keys with.
The machine positions the cutter at 3mm up from the end so it's in the middle of the blade.

That's why all the A9 cutters have a longer cutting blade.

Shame as the cutters your talking about sounded good.

[simaservis1108]

I was wrong cutter length is 5mm.You could take fewer pieces and try them out.

Here is one picture,compared with standard ORION cutter.

Also many members asked.
On the cutter it says:
2,C - Ultra
52/14 CC1*

[strat]

Who ever has one of these what software version do you have??




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[gedas8899]

version 11.2. i speak with support they told me new updates after 1mnd.

[gedas8899]

somebody can look on machine this configuration how much must be XY i reseted mines and now machine stopped cut.

[estate]

I think you need to manually calibrate it.

[gedas8899]

Somebody can chek how much its x y mesurments iam reseted mine.its in calibration menu.

[strat]

Just re-calibrate it via the setup menu.. all machines would be different.. copying another machine settings wont be accurate for that machine.

Can you show me the version info log screen of that machine?

I been trying to get updates for this but keep getting its the latest update.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/01/908d0ef683ae015e31a4e7311e57d7c6.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/01/192c1df9a97f2d699fb874d2d02ff809.jpg




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[gedas8899]

Thanks mate her is my version window.

[strat]

losing faith with this machine.. support is pretty much non-existent with this company (kkkcut) unless they think you are going to spend money buying clamps etc.. the only time i get replies now.

[obdsystems]

My genuine A5 has trouble cutting HU92.
So off this week to get it fixed - at least buying genuine in my country i can get support.

Cheap stuff isn't everything -

[thebigk]

strat how are you feeling about this machine? looks like we should stay away?

[joalpepa]

Hi guys,
I'm new here!
There are somebody with good experience with cut sx9 keys by sec-e9?
I've tried cut differents sx9 keys with imput by code, and more times the sec-e9 cut wrong!!
I think is a problem of software, because when imput the code in the machine the picture of the key in the screen is different of picture from instacode.
Please, show the photos attached, the instacode picture is the correct key!
Any idea for solve the problem??
thanks for hour help!

346969346968

[strat]

Anyone tried connecting this to a battery?

Thinking of getting 2 x 12v batteries in series (24v) to use it in a remote location with limited power access.

[paul_12345]

Anyone tried connecting this to a battery?

Thinking of getting 2 x 12v batteries in series (24v) to use it in a remote location with limited power access.

no reason why it wouldn't, but remember to add a fuse with proper amp rating.

[hkcarkey]

I'm using 25.2v (4.2v x 6) 6s1p lipo battery for about a year, no problem so far

[lastbornzombie]

I used this on 12v in van and works fine, slower than with mains power but cuts ok.

[strat]

I'm using 25.2v (4.2v x 6) 6s1p lipo battery for about a year, no problem so far

You mean 22.2v lipo?

have a link to it?

How long do you get out of each charge.. I was thinking of going lipo maybe even mounting inside the case.



I used this on 12v in van and works fine, slower than with mains power but cuts ok.

Surprised it even worked :D

[hkcarkey]

I use 2600mah can get 5 to 6 cut for each charge

[strat]

So received this yesterday and modded a DC 2.5mm plug to suit.. fully charged is sits around 24/25v have cut 4 keys today with this connected and voltage hardly drop can see it doing lots more keys before even needing a recharge. :top:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__32163__ZIPPY_Flightmax_5000mAh_6S1P_25C_UK_Wareh ouse_.html

Capacity: 5000mAh
Voltage: 6S1P / 6 Cell / 22.2v

[strat]

anyone know what the SEC-E9Z is or what has been upgraded if it has??

apart from changing from yellow to blue?? lol

edit: answering my own question didn't see the details before..

http://www.kkkcut.com/imageRepository/f415e688-5c46-44da-95bf-df03a96e2151.jpg

[lesley599]

sec-e9z can cut car keys only and the automobile key clamp is fixed can not move.
Now upgrade version is 15.08386857

[baboonia]

Is anyone here actually using SEC-E9 or E9Z and having good success?
If so, please report what you like/don't like and how long you've had machine along with the software version you're using.

[davezhype]

I have once coming in later this week will let you guys know how it works once I try it out

[strat]

I have once coming in later this week will let you guys know how it works once I try it out

did you buy the latest one with the android tablet ?

[strat]

I have once coming in later this week will let you guys know how it works once I try it out

how the machine going?

[nocarry]

SEC-E9 is half cheaper than Miracle A9 but work totally SAME!

[aandrkeys]

HI HOW YOU GETTING ON WITH SEC-E9 ? LOOKING AT BUYING ONE,WOULD YOU RECOMMEND IT OR NOT BOTHER...REGARDS.

[autoTkey]

Seems like this machine is trying to gain some popularity. It's being advertised a lot. Anyone who's had it for a while to share his latest impressions? How is it compared to X6 and the Condor?
How about the domestic key functions? Any comments?

[rob h]

Do they all come with the same ammount of clamps.
There are about 5 types of clamps available.

[autoTkey]

I don't think they come with all the clamps. I guess the price of the machine includes only the car key clamp and some adapters like HU66.

[optiknerv]

Do they all come with the same ammount of clamps.
There are about 5 types of clamps available.

You get the following in the international basic package:

- Machine
- Extra machine bits (2x bands) (1xpositioning nub)(calibration nub)
- Thandle tool for tightening/releasing clamps etc.
- 2 Cutters
- 2 Decoders
- Brush
- Auto Decoder
- HU66 Adapter
- USB Cable
- Power Brick & Cord (North America three prong)
- User Manual

--

Everything else is extra.

Anyone who has questions regarding the international version can message me or request a certain demo video of a particular key. i have all clamps/adapters.

[dashtool2016]

I want to buy a unit although I have my doubts between sec-e9 and xhorse mini condor ... but for the comments I see I think it's better option this model includes golf VII: D: D: D
for Spain can you advise me where to buy more economical and better service? Thank you

[optiknerv]

condor mini is strictly automotive machine.. sec e9 is more well rounded doing not only auto or motorbike but home and tubular

[shotaaa]

Did somebody succeed to cut mercedes key models like 2006 2007 2008 etc.. i tried a couple times but it decode the key wrong and the cutting i also wrong..

[autoTkey]

Better go for the Miracle if you want your machine to have real support.
Condors are also very good.
If you want cheap - go for the X6/V8.

SEC-E9 is neither cheap, nor original. It is overpriced clone without quality support.
I'll be happy if someone proves me wrong, but it doesn't seem like it, from the posts in this thread.

[Manta1600]

I just received my SEC E9

Looks very good and easy for use


Cutted 3 keys
VA2 - OK - with special clamp
DW04 - OK
HU100 - Not OK - Unlock the door but cant turn on ignition - tomorrow will try again

[paulsta]

I just received my SEC E9

Looks very good and easy for use


Cutted 3 keys
VA2 - OK - with special clamp
DW04 - OK
HU100 - Not OK - Unlock the door but cant turn on ignition - tomorrow will try againHu100 should be fine, I have done many

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[Manta1600]

Hu100 should be fine, I have done many

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Yes you are right - Today all is OK
Yesterday was my silly mistake

Thanks :)

[garagetech007]

My tablet doesn’t connect via Bluetooth, can’t see the device in list . Bluetooth error or something wrong with board. Not sure help is appreciated. Appreciated

[Manta1600]

I use my with cable

[shotaaa]

Did somebody succeed to cut vag key HU162T ?

[paulsta]

Did somebody succeed to cut vag key HU162T ?Have you tried?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHvSmYUwNQU

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[finakeys]

I miss my sec-e9... Good machine for the price... bought it in 2015 when the dollar wasn't as strong so got a great deal. I get asked for a lot of locker keys to code and if it wasn't for its total lack of being able to clamp them efficiently, I wouldn't have needed to upgrade to Futura... Support is lacking unless they think they're sniffing a sale, but if you know what you're doing it's a great machine.

p.s the miracle is no better with locker keys

[autoTkey]

Just received notification that a new version is available with Android and without battery.
I guess the older version has been Windows 8 based, like the original Miracle.
And since the Miracle are still using the Windows environment, maybe KKK has decided to go and try develop something on their own, not just copy?

[hackshaq]

I have a Miracle a9 and I am wondering if the SEC E9 clamps fit OK on the A9. Anybody tried this before? I have noticed that the E9 clamps are crazy cheap (on Aliexpress) and look to be the exact same. Just wanted to make sure they would fit my A9 before I buy.

[robbocop33]

On label there is only written 2mm Cutter HSS.
Made in Germany.

I can buy these for you and send you.
I just cut one VA2 blade with this cutter,it did the job perfectly.

I'm surprised the 2m2 magic tank key cutter isn't more popular,its a fantastic cutter for the price!
No need for lots of different clamps,only extra clamp is a tibbe key clamp,and that's fully automated!you don't have to manually turn the blade between cuts to get the different angle cuts,machine does it all,it's only machine i know does this!.

[TERMINATOR1000]

I'm surprised the 2m2 magic tank key cutter isn't more popular,its a fantastic cutter for the price!
No need for lots of different clamps,only extra clamp is a tibbe key clamp,and that's fully automated!you don't have to manually turn the blade between cuts to get the different angle cuts,machine does it all,it's only machine i know does this!.

fantastic ! coronavirus inside ?

[robbocop33]

fantastic ! coronavirus inside ?

Yes,but i paid extra for that! :-).I think the 2m2 is way ahead of other machines for around a grand (uk money)Honestly,the machine is getting way overlooked in my opinion.It doesn't take up much room either,most other machines you have to pay so much for extra clamps etc
Only problem i had was decoding a va2 key,contacted manufacturer,said to slip a thin pieceof credit card under it as Chines va2 blades are too thin,done!
No problems with any other key,great watching it cutting a tibbe without you ever doing anything throughout the cutting process! Very clever :-)