Ford Focus 2013 key programming

[Rtronics]

having troubles programming keys.
2013 Ford Focus
6D 63 80 Bit as read by tmpro

i have done Ford Focus and fiesta a few times before.

Using genuine mvp.

This car for some reason is not working. it says success after 3 hrs. car doest start. tried it again took about 15 minutes success again car doest start. i have lost 2 tokens. with focus menu says 2011+ in beta euro section.

the fiesta i did before had 2013+ in beta euro section.

History, car is from dealer accident damage. checked with avdi and vcm all major components have same vin number.cluster ecu etc. Owner says they changed abs module which i found with vcm to be true but i initialized it with vcm and all looks good.

Any one know what else i can try? i was thinking of trying the Fiesta 2013+ for this 2013 Focus but i hear its a different system. anyone experienced this? ecu fault is saying something like secondary immoliser fault. maybe i have faulty ecu ?

[Faraday]

I've heard about similar case, key was made by local locksmith, customer went to ford dealer to make second key, they could't program key to car.

[Rtronics]

thats what they told me about the last focus i did, that dealer couldnt program key. any other known issues, i was thinking of changing ecu and try again. ecu fault secondary immo fault code in ecu/pcm.

[rapidlocksmiths]

are you putting 2 keys in ? as may be looking for 2nd key if not

may not be relevent but also check the 5 amp fuses in fuse box , had a similar issue on a late mondeo and after removing and checking 5 amp fuses in mondeo fusebox under glovebox on pasenger side and replacing a blown one all coded in fine , whether it was the blown fuse causing this or in removing them to check reset something i dont know , but worked on a mondeo to restore things.

[Rtronics]

yes, 2 keys. when you cycle keys it changes count from 0 to 1 to 2. this 5 amp fuse you talking about, do you know what that fuse was for ? interesting.......

[rapidlocksmiths]

No , i spoke to a ford tech i know after getting nowhere on it , he directed me to a fusebox under glovebox carpet trim in passenger footwell , there was about 8 x 5 amp fuses in it , 1 had blown , but i removed all to check them , either the blown fuse solved it or the process of removing each in turn and replacing it reset system .

keys were not being accepted and car was totally immobilised even existing key had stopped working , this was an accident damaged mondeo as well .

also ensure good voltage throughout programming

[Rtronics]

can we do immo off on this car ?

[obdsystems]

nop

maybe u need avdi

[autofan1965]

Any msg that car dont see key? Tango have it on supported list too.

[Rtronics]

I have tried different Ecu and different cluster. Mvp says success. Dash message same. Immobilzer malfunction.

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[adamgr]

Have you done a PATS initialization with you vcm?

[Rtronics]

Yes. dash has been removed, car was in accident. i am going to remove dash, maybe there is a wire squashed somewhere.

[Rtronics]

update, i still can not start this car. i have purchased from the wreckers dash/ecu/white fuse box under glovebox/gearbox computer the one with 2 big plugs similar to engine ecu/ black computer box underneath cd player/ key reader/ and key. Start up kit. same message immobilizer malfunction. car not start. what the hell is wrong with this car. anyone had similar situation or have i missed something regarding start up kit.i have changed everything i can think of.

[autofan1965]

i am not sure but maybe there abs pump is part of set too. Have you see this set working on car?

[Rtronics]

funny you should say that, as customer said they changed abs and after car not start. avdi and ids giving me error code of secondary immobilizer problem. what is secondary immobilizer? anyone know.

[totalkey]

funny you should say that, as customer said they changed abs and after car not start. avdi and ids giving me error code of secondary immobilizer problem. what is secondary immobilizer? anyone know.
when avdi progrmming key to 2011+ they also connect to abs module!!!

[autofan1965]

It is regular key? When yes, there remote is learned durning key programming or manual procedure?

[obdsystems]

avdi does this easy. have heard sombody had an issue but need more info.

personally never had an issue. keys programmed in seconds

as totalkey said - connects to systems - whats happening? don't care as long as works :)

[Rtronics]

I hear Avdi and I have done a few before with mvp. My client bought damaged car from auction. Swapped some parts over from other car. Now car don't start. Can not get original parts or information as person who was working on the car does not work there anymore. I have lost 8 tokens trying many different things. Key registers success. Same problem. Immobilizer malfunction see handbook. When I read dtc keeps saying wrong response from secondary immobilizer. What the hell is secondary immo.

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[satellitedream]

whats the code number its giving?

[adamgr]

Your keys are coded. But the Ecu,s in the system are not matched. As said before the ABS is part of the immo system.
As I said before to match them make sure all ecu,s are programmed and then carry out a PATS initialization with VCM
MVP does not do this on the newer fords .

[satellitedream]

Your keys are coded. But the Ecu,s in the system are not matched. As said before the ABS is part of the immo system.
As I said before to match them make sure all ecu,s are programmed and then carry out a PATS initialization with VCM
MVP does not do this on the newer fords .

if this is indeed the case, then all you have to do is a paramater reset, which syncs all immo id's together when you have replaced any component part of the immo system. use ids, go into security, wait the 10 minutes and do a parameter reset, car will start

[Rtronics]

My China Ids wants to connect online to do this. Can Avdi or something else sync all immo components.

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[obdsystems]

My China Ids wants to connect online to do this. Can Avdi or something else sync all immo components.
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car is too new for china IDS - even genuine IDS I believe now requires special permissions which aren't given to guys like us. Maybe some1 can confirm this?


PS Greetings Aussie friend from UK

[Faraday]

Focus from 2011 goes only online no incode, there is new platform Fdrs. You need to have vcm2

[adamgr]

FordVCM is online only due to no incode system used.

I am sure it is listed on my AVDI with the newer ford Licence - 08? maybe
But I don't have my AVDI to hand now to check

[cjawahir]

all ford and mazda vehicle have as built data on the manufacture website , once u change a module, u need to go on the site and down load the hex codes input in the module one by one until all is with the data match to website .

advi can do it but u still need to get the as built data .

then u can program the key .

cj

[keygargoil]

avdi can do initialisation but depends on the ecu fitted

[Rtronics]

all ford and mazda vehicle have as built data on the manufacture website , once u change a module, u need to go on the site and down load the hex codes input in the module one by one until all is with the data match to website .

advi can do it but u still need to get the as built data .

then u can program the key .

cj

Mate you do know what your talking about. Thank you.

i have purchased a 1 mth subscription from motorcraft. i am trying to use my avdi as the j2534 interface. its not working. i called support from motorcraft and they said my avdi is no good as my username and pw is all good.no more support as i am in Australia. bye. can anyone with teamviewer help me get this to work. if not can i use a china ids as the passthru. if that doesnt work i have downloaded all the as built data from motorcraft how do i manually do this with avdi?

with my avdi i see vehicle config data choose car then see option as built data ccc. load file and then click on update ccc. still didnt work.anyone know the procedure with avdi.

[cjawahir]

[QUOTE=Rtronics;2485127]Mate you do know what your talking about. Thank you.

i have purchased a 1 mth subscription from motorcraft. i am trying to use my avdi as the j2534 interface. its not working. i called support from motorcraft and they said my avdi is no good as my username and pw is all good.no more support as i am in Australia. bye. can anyone with teamviewer help me get this to work. if not can i use a china ids as the passthru. if that doesnt work i have downloaded all the as built data from motorcraft how do i manually do this with avdi?



if u have the Ford/Mazda commander you can do it with that once u have the as built data , u will see Programmable Module Installation.

read the pdf manual and u see .

cj

[Rtronics]

i have obtained and loaded as built data. what tools CAN do parameter reset ? OR synchronize pcm/dash and abs ?

any diagnostic scan tools that dont need online security requirement.

[adamgr]

Did you try AVDI with key learning menu .operation module initialization . I think with AVDI it comes under this.
need two key programmed to contine

Not used AVDI on one yet myself for this so not sure if it works for this function .
key coding works well but internet connection needed

I would try this if you have not yet

[totalkey]

i have obtained and loaded as built data. what tools CAN do parameter reset ? OR synchronize pcm/dash and abs ?

any diagnostic scan tools that dont need online security requirement.
also gscan can do it