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sazimam11
22nd October, 2015, 06:50 PM
Hi gyuz,
may I ask you to extract PIN and CS from the dash-file attached,please?
Thank you.
autochei
22nd October, 2015, 08:47 PM
read confort modul under glovebox
sazimam11
22nd October, 2015, 10:23 PM
here you are comfort unit
AndyCZ
23rd October, 2015, 06:23 AM
if you need pin and cs also dump from ecu needed. read 95320 either.
sazimam11
23rd October, 2015, 06:43 AM
I am out of reach the car now. Anyways I am sure the comfort unit contains the info needed as I did this before. There are profs here on the forum able to extract the PIN from it , you'll see, just stay tuned :)
haroutioun
23rd October, 2015, 08:56 AM
Hello.
here your order.
pin = 07144
Comp = 67 21 D6 F2 CE 43 AD
MAC = D2 19 0A DC
sazimam11
23rd October, 2015, 09:54 AM
GJ m8, thx, i will try soon and report.
to AndyCz : here you are the professional I was talking about :)
sazimam11
23rd October, 2015, 01:46 PM
PIN code correct - accepted by ECU but not accepted by IMMO - this means I will have to make the ECU immo off to be able to move the car.
May I ask you for IMOO OFF to the attachment please?
Siemens PPD 1.1 5WP45500 AF
haroutioun
23rd October, 2015, 02:20 PM
PIN code correct - accepted by ECU but not accepted by IMMO - this means I will have to make the ECU immo off to be able to move the car.
May I ask you for IMOO OFF to the attachment please?
Siemens PPD 1.1 5WP45500 AF
Hello.
1) Dear,there is not accept yet the immo off on engine ecu with PPD1.1.
2) what you trying to do on this car let us too know.?
3) look this link may if you accept he can help you...http://www.smok.com.pl/index.php?lang=en&id=oferta&kategoria=2&produkt=147
sazimam11
23rd October, 2015, 02:46 PM
Thank you this is the story :
I was trying to adapt brand new ESCL bought from dealer according the VIN.
Connected it to the vehicle and tried to enter the PIN you offered me to the IMMO unit 25
IMMO unit refused the key and now there is 255 lock time...
After that I tried to enter the PIN to the ECU, just to verify it is correct and it was accepted it with no problem. So I assume there must have been something wrong in the IMMO before. But the car was OK till this time, except some intermittent ESCL failures.
Now the car does not operate with its original ESCL too - thats is really bad.
vlado kljucar
23rd October, 2015, 02:54 PM
Login: 07144
VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ6P037770
pin code is correct
sazimam11
23rd October, 2015, 03:06 PM
Yes it is AS confirmed above. But not accepted by IMMO . I will wait 255 to try this again ...
haroutioun
23rd October, 2015, 03:08 PM
Hello.
write back the original eeprom in comfort module so after you see the lock time 00.
1) this is the procedure of ESCL adaption by VCDS.disconnect battery negative cable and reconnect,Make sure a battery charger is connected so the voltage is maintained.go to 25-Immobilizer Adaption - 10. Leave channel at "00" Read - Save- Done, Go Back - after Security Access-16 Enter the vehicle PIN in a digit format.(Do it)after Adaption 10,Read Channel 051.test The Stored Value will be 32000. Enter the PIN in the New Value box,Wait | N/A | N/A | N/A Will be displayed. Wait until the ID numbers are transferred into the first 2 boxes.and after Done,Go Back.normally this is which done with my for this job.
sazimam11
23rd October, 2015, 05:49 PM
Yes I have an evidence about this procedure but for now, as the NEW ESL has locked itself for some reason and I have no more power at circuit nuber 15 (due to internal microswitches) i have no access to the IMMO25 anymore.
must find a way to override this now
yugo45
24th October, 2015, 05:56 AM
With New ESL you do not need to enter Pin, go starring to adaptation Ch 51.
New ESL comes Virgin and it is unlocked , that why no need pin.
Mario3
24th October, 2015, 08:39 AM
Sorry to hijack tread but i had similar issues a few days ago and dont have to much experience with this type of immo system. Elv stuck in open position and bloked the engine start, i managed to make immo off so the guy can drive his car. And i did read that a new elv has to be buyed, why can not a used one be made virgin ? Thats my question? And i didnt open it to se what type of memory it has, but i did found in avdi dump tool that there is 908 motorola ? So can it be done or not ?
Thanks
twincam
24th October, 2015, 08:51 AM
Becouse used is also often bad as yours and new esl is quite cheap
sazimam11
24th October, 2015, 09:42 AM
With New ESL you do not need to enter Pin, go starring to adaptation Ch 51.
New ESL comes Virgin and it is unlocked , that why no need pin.
Well, that sound OK for me but the ESL locked itself after a minute and now it blocks the power supply wit key in ignition - terminal 15 and I cannot comunicate with the immo unit . Is there any goaround ?
Internally THERE is motorola MC68HC908AZ32 mask 4L52H in 64pin QFP FYI
Mario3
24th October, 2015, 12:16 PM
Becouse used is also often bad as yours and new esl is quite cheap
I know but why can i not use a elv from scrapyard make it virgin and code it to car. Its around 160e where i live incl. coding
haroutioun
24th October, 2015, 03:54 PM
With New ESL you do not need to enter Pin, go starring to adaptation Ch 51.
New ESL comes Virgin and it is unlocked , that why no need pin.
Hello.
1) the manual above which i write to use pin in Security Access-16, before Adaption -10 in Channel 051. i always do this procedure in each time when come to my garage this job.
2) & in this link it show the same with positive result by using the pin before going to adapt 51.http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?784#post5511
haroutioun
24th October, 2015, 04:15 PM
Sorry to hijack tread but i had similar issues a few days ago and dont have to much experience with this type of immo system. Elv stuck in open position and bloked the engine start, i managed to make immo off so the guy can drive his car. And i did read that a new elv has to be buyed, why can not a used one be made virgin ? Thats my question? And i didnt open it to se what type of memory it has, but i did found in avdi dump tool that there is 908 motorola ? So can it be done or not ?
Thanks
Hello.
in avdi this function can show you security access code = pin + The function displays also the component protection bytes. just.
haroutioun
24th October, 2015, 04:31 PM
Well, that sound OK for me but the ESL locked itself after a minute and now it blocks the power supply wit key in ignition - terminal 15 and I cannot comunicate with the immo unit . Is there any goaround ?
Internally THERE is motorola MC68HC908AZ32 mask 4L52H in 64pin QFP FYI
Hello.
1) write original dump in comfort module & after you need to wake the CAN Bus, try matching with the 4-way flashers turned on and the high beam held back in the flash-to-pass position to have communication with immo by obd2.and when u get the communication try re adapt the new (ELV)
2) many years ago done with me used ELV by disolder (68hc908) from original to new used, but never i try in (brand new).
Mario3
24th October, 2015, 04:51 PM
Did you read my post ? The question is not how to read data out of it but to virginise a used elv so it can be adapted as a new unit
yugo45
24th October, 2015, 04:56 PM
Hello.
1) the manual above which i write to use pin in Security Access-16, before Adaption -10 in Channel 051. i always do this procedure in each time when come to my garage this job.
2) & in this link it show the same with positive result by using the pin before going to adapt 51.http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?784#post5511
Not necessary put pin ,
same thing in Mk4 cluster , Ross-Tech and everyone was telling for MK4 NEW cluster need to enter Pin, but it does not need.
You can test this with Mk4 cluster , make it Virgin and go straight to ch 50 , you will see it does not need pin.
Audi Rb4 Immo 3 , Audi A6 C5 immo 3 same thing.
TECH
24th October, 2015, 04:57 PM
I have look for the same way at past , I didn't found a way to virgin the used. Only if you have virgin files read from virgin one!
yugo45
24th October, 2015, 05:03 PM
Well, that sound OK for me but the ESL locked itself after a minute and now it blocks the power supply wit key in ignition - terminal 15 and I cannot comunicate with the immo unit . Is there any goaround ?
Internally THERE is motorola MC68HC908AZ32 mask 4L52H in 64pin QFP FYI
It may unlock when time goes out.
By pressing Brake pedal for 30 sec and have hazards on all time , you can wake up Can Bus and you can access 25-immobilizer .
TECH
24th October, 2015, 05:07 PM
If step motor work once without adapted then its locked, try to open it and remove at open stage.
haroutioun
24th October, 2015, 05:12 PM
Did you read my post ? The question is not how to read data out of it but to virginise a used elv so it can be adapted as a new unit
Hello,
yes friend that's right, i just try give on this function in avdi dump tool,function for pin + cs show.
haroutioun
24th October, 2015, 05:19 PM
Not necessary put pin ,
same thing in Mk4 cluster , Ross-Tech and everyone was telling for MK4 NEW cluster need to enter Pin, but it does not need.
You can test this with Mk4 cluster , make it Virgin and go straight to ch 50 , you will see it does not need pin.
Audi Rb4 Immo 3 , Audi A6 C5 immo 3 same thing.
Hello.
OK your answer right.but i never see Ross-Tech telling about golf 4 new cluster need pin code in ascces-16, he show us direct to Chanel 50, but the procedure by use pin in (access 16) is not wrong for passat comfort,so all here in DK we know this channels how use it,any way i accept your idea.
sazimam11
25th October, 2015, 09:11 AM
It may unlock when time goes out.
By pressing Brake pedal for 30 sec and have hazards on all time , you can wake up Can Bus and you can access 25-immobilizer .
YEs man, this worked for me. It seems like I made a bad sequence ans the ESL locked itself.
After batt conection and wake up the GW the car seems to have no power but it has at least IMMO unit. It is acessible via VAG and this procedure worked fine > http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?784#post5511
Did not need to open/disassemble the ESL unit, fortunatelly. The cost of this is 90EUR now, so it is not worth of any risk with its repairs.
sazimam11
25th October, 2015, 09:14 AM
Did you read my post ? The question is not how to read data out of it but to virginise a used elv so it can be adapted as a new unit
So do you know how to R/W data , please? Now as I have one used elv it would be usefull just to make an investigation of this case. There must be a way to make it virgin in my opinion.
sazimam11
25th October, 2015, 09:17 AM
Hello.
OK your answer right,but you think cause our friend when he use pin in Chanel security 16,so for that he loos the ELV communication ? and the ELV stoped?
That must have happen due to battery was not disconnected during the procedure!!
Mario3
25th October, 2015, 09:45 AM
So do you know how to R/W data , please? Now as I have one used elv it would be usefull just to make an investigation of this case. There must be a way to make it virgin in my opinion.
Great, please open it and post a picture here, someone told me that there are 2 types..
Regards
sazimam11
26th October, 2015, 10:02 AM
Great, please open it and post a picture here, someone told me that there are 2 types..
Regards
I'll do that later as the part arrives back to me.
sazimam11
26th October, 2015, 11:38 PM
Here you are the pictures promised.
Mario3
27th October, 2015, 09:15 AM
Thanks, and can someone please explain why its not posible to read that Mcu and put in it a virgin file so that it behaves like a new elv ??
Or is the problem that nobody has the virgin file for it ?
Regards
TECH
27th October, 2015, 03:53 PM
The new ELV has ELMOS chip , I have virgin chip but I don't have tool to read ...
TECH
27th October, 2015, 03:55 PM
I think all the replacement modules had the new chip, so its difficult to find virgin file for the old!
Mario3
27th October, 2015, 05:46 PM
Ahaa so you havent a new elv with 908 ?
What chip is it exactly that you have in your elv ?
Regards
AndyCZ
6th November, 2015, 07:41 AM
sazimam11 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/293490-sazimam11) are you in all keys lost situation or just exchanging ELV?
sazimam11
12th November, 2015, 11:32 PM
sazimam11 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/293490-sazimam11) are you in all keys lost situation or just exchanging ELV?
I was just changing the lock as it became unworthy. Sometimes was lazy to unlock the steering.
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