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whiskeyman
20th April, 2016, 09:21 PM
hello
got an audi A8 having problems (lost keys)
370872
read kessy eprom
will be hitag id46
pre code chip with tm100 not work
checked with avdi and vvdi 2 which give different pin and cs
tm100 show pin 03423 cs 1A 01 78 88 34 02 F1
effi show pin 4986
vvdi2 same as avdi 34849 cs 08 FD 79 3C 21 3B 8A

think pre code and pin correct with tm100
can someone check please
dont know what machine is telling truth

anyone have tmpro to run this through?

Weasel3
20th April, 2016, 10:05 PM
Did open the dump with the Green tool, gives the same info as the tm100 for a obvious reason.

And if any of the manufacturers has a comment, why every tool gives a different result on reasonable easy reading like this?

whiskeyman
20th April, 2016, 10:17 PM
yes thats what i was thinking

koyot
20th April, 2016, 10:53 PM
clone tool noot good foor busines no asistance no help
genuine tool work fine and also suport assistance

rm23
20th April, 2016, 10:53 PM
Avdi shows pin 34849 and 3 keys in memory...

whiskeyman
20th April, 2016, 11:03 PM
Avdi shows pin 34849 and 3 keys in memory...

yes this what i get with genuine avdi too
but its wrong
ecu dump shows same pin as tm100
but i think tm100 not writing the pre code correct onto the chip because dash not work to code the key

it need precode to work

am i doing something wrong with avdi am i going into wrong function for lost keys on these?

rm23
20th April, 2016, 11:31 PM
are you from england? i can precode 7936 and post it for you price of chip and post cost

Bmkeys
21st April, 2016, 03:20 AM
Try and precode the chip with vvdi2

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whiskeyman
21st April, 2016, 08:02 AM
are you from england? i can precode 7936 and post it for you price of chip and post cost
thank you for kind offer of chip
but I determined to get to bottom of this
icc give both Avdi code and tango
carprog give same code as tango
so many machines giving different answer

Avdi and vvdi effi wrong
tmpro tango Carprog icc give correct pin
just think the pre code wrong

just looking for tool that will show correct pin and pre code data

lupu_sandu
21st April, 2016, 08:20 AM
AVDI can make key ready to start from kessy.

whiskeyman
21st April, 2016, 08:23 AM
Hi lupu just the man I was wanting
this is the kessy file I added
but it's wrong pin etc in Avdi tag tool

if you run this file through a few tools you will see what I mean

haroutioun
21st April, 2016, 08:44 AM
Hello.
1) the pin of your kessy (key-lees Entry) tango is the correct,and by tango is the best to get the solution of to start the car.
2) and about to have correct pin,you have second chance to read pin from diesel engine control unite,(4E0 910 402 E).
3) and to done by avdi go to key learning and from there use (auto-detect) so here avdi he show you the true pin + CS,& after you can learn your transponder to kessy.

whiskeyman
21st April, 2016, 09:44 AM
You need pre coded key to get Avdi to work I think on this car

rob h
21st April, 2016, 09:49 AM
The Avdi tagkeytool, will do that. No precoding is needed.

whiskeyman
21st April, 2016, 10:29 AM
Run the file rob
through avdi then tango
you will see what i am on about
avdi wrong
does not work on car

autochei
21st April, 2016, 10:46 AM
Immo: AUX3Z0G1316668
Date: 13.02.07
VAG: 4E0909131K
ID: 5WK47013
VIN: WAUZZZ4E97N017560
PIN: 03423
RSK: 88 30 C3 FA FA 35
RCF: 04 4C 84 00
TMCF: DF 1E C5 21

i think u only need to produce 7936 for a8 no need wrrite precod for this car because mk3 not show me cs in ur dump

rob h
21st April, 2016, 11:34 AM
You have a tm100? Did you try this?
I see the difference too on my vvdi2 and tango!

Or do you need someone to send you the transponders made by tango?

Locksmith Hungary
21st April, 2016, 12:10 PM
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amigokola
21st April, 2016, 02:28 PM
Miraclone is showing PIN:3423.

lupu_sandu
21st April, 2016, 06:24 PM
Let me get this straight, you want to learn key in car?
Why you don't make TP ready to start the car with AVDI in tagkey tool. Write back dump generated in 93c86 and tp will start the car.
PS: Effi show correct pin: 03423

IMMO - AUX3Z0G1316668
Date - 13/02/2007
Part - 4E0909131K
IMMO Status - 6
VIN - WAUZZZ4E97N017560
Login - 03423
ID KEY - C2BF5754
ID KEY - 12C05754
ID KEY - 55C7C51A
Crypto Low - 01788834
Crypto High - 02F1

whiskeyman
21st April, 2016, 07:30 PM
Avdi tag tool fail
only correct transponder will allow ignition to turn
effi i change to other program and it see pin good
will try this next

same as I EPROM a Ducato today
tag tool not recognise dump
effi did and worked