audi A6 2006 ezs all key lost info please

[gttuning]

Hi what is the handy way of programming a blank non remote key for ths Audi A6 2006 3.2fsi with AVDI?
Thanks

[haroutioun]

Hi what is the handy way of programming a blank non remote key for ths Audi A6 2006 3.2fsi with AVDI?
Thanks
Hello.
1) Dear, first connect by jumper wire the pin 1 + the 16 of obd2 to have communication with engine ecu, and after with avdi go to Special function of (EZS-kESSY q7/a6) and click (Auto detect - from engine ecu) when it show you 6 cs + pin, so there put your transponder 8E OR remote and in (tag key tool) click Make Dealer key,and follow the procedure of avdi screen.
2) if American system the car so must be your remote part number (4F0 837 220 A) if EUROPE (4F0 837 220 M ) if any missing or misunderstand me please let me know.

[gttuning]

Hi again was looking for this 8E transponder chip where, i can get it them from. 3Dgroup r listed for Ssangyoung will them work or has to be 8E for VAG?
thanks

[haroutioun]

Hi again was looking for this 8E transponder chip where, i can get it them from. 3Dgroup r listed for Ssangyoung will them work or has to be 8E for VAG?
thanks
Hello.
its must be for vag, & it work too the 8E class chip for Honda.

[gttuning]

Hello.
1) Dear, first connect by jumper wire the pin 1 + the 16 of obd2 to have communication with engine ecu, and after with avdi go to Special function of (EZS-kESSY q7/a6) and click (Auto detect - from engine ecu) when it show you 6 cs + pin, so there put your transponder 8E OR remote and in (tag key tool) click Make Dealer key,and follow the procedure of avdi screen.
2) if American system the car so must be your remote part number (4F0 837 220 A) if EUROPE (4F0 837 220 M ) if any missing or misunderstand me please let me know.
worked ok..pin1 and pin16 joined and com to ecu ok.

[Jobeso66]

Hello.
1) Dear, first connect by jumper wire the pin 1 + the 16 of obd2 to have communication with engine ecu, and after with avdi go to Special function of (EZS-kESSY q7/a6) and click (Auto detect - from engine ecu) when it show you 6 cs + pin, so there put your transponder 8E OR remote and in (tag key tool) click Make Dealer key,and follow the procedure of avdi screen.
2) if American system the car so must be your remote part number (4F0 837 220 A) if EUROPE (4F0 837 220 M ) if any missing or misunderstand me please let me know.

Hi, I have same situation , I followed your steps to read KESSY
2006 Audi A6
How long does it take to pull component security from ECU?
It goes to 10 mins then says it needs more time , it goes to another 10 mins cycle.
Am I doing something wrong ?



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[haroutioun]

Hello.
yes some times need more then 30 minute leave ignition on to let you get immo infos.

[obdsystems]

can't buy remote fobs anywhere ??

[Jobeso66]

Hello.
yes some times need more then 30 minute leave ignition on to let you get immo infos.

Ok. I will leave it more time.

What do you mean "Leave ignition on". ? I thought we leave ignition switch alone


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[haroutioun]

Ok. I will leave it more time.

What do you mean "Leave ignition on". ? I thought we leave ignition switch alone


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Hello.
i mean you must ignition on and wait 30 minute and after 30 minute try by obd2 read the ecu.

[Jobeso66]

Hello.
i mean you must ignition on and wait 30 minute and after 30 minute try by obd2 read the ecu.

Ok cool , I'll do that
Thank again
I'll report back this evening


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[NogaroB5S4]

AVDI will not read some older Simos Benzin ECUs. This mainly goes for older 2005 models here in US. You might be able to read info from EZS. Most require working key, but some older EZS versions do not. Try reading EZS with "have working key" option.

[Gavra]

can't buy remote fobs anywhere ??
remkeys have them.....

[amigokola]

Out of stock.

[Jobeso66]

AVDI will not read some older Simos Benzin ECUs. This mainly goes for older 2005 models here in US. You might be able to read info from EZS. Most require working key, but some older EZS versions do not. Try reading EZS with "have working key" option.

Finally I had a chance to get back to this vehicle, I have a lost key situation
I have a key cut with a new 8E chip
After 30 mins powering ecu direct I hooked up fvdi , selected ECU ICON , on next screen I clicked on read conf data ( by default on auto detect)
It has this ecu
Ecu Siemens VDO
5WP45186 06 RBG. SME 0254/0393
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4F1 907 559 A. H15
SW 4F1 910 559 A. 0050




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[Jobeso66]

AVDI will not read some older Simos Benzin ECUs. This mainly goes for older 2005 models here in US. You might be able to read info from EZS. Most require working key, but some older EZS versions do not. Try reading EZS with "have working key" option.

I am located in Houston , TX
Fvdi has 2 options for Siemens
But I selected auto detect
1) SIMOS BENZIN
2) simos PPD 1.1/1.5 (Siemens)

I am leaving it ecu alone , going in kessyezs icon on special functions




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[yugo45]

I am located in Houston , TX
Fvdi has 2 options for Siemens
But I selected auto detect
1) SIMOS BENZIN
2) simos PPD 1.1/1.5 (Siemens)

I am leaving it ecu alone , going in kessyezs icon on special functions




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On that ECU 99% of the time , you have to read eeprom with programmer, then use dump tool to get 6 byte cs and pin.
But I do not think that will help you as FVDI do not have option to enter manually CS form ECU. Only option for manual I see is to load EZS dump.

[nazz2]

A noob question guys, when you connect pin1 to pin 16, then how do you plug the obd lead in? jump wire at the back of the obd plug?

[haroutioun]

A noob question guys, when you connect pin1 to pin 16, then how do you plug the obd lead in? jump wire at the back of the obd plug?
Hello.
yes exactly jump wire at back of obd2 connector not at face of obd2 connector, if you work at all on vag group you can order this tool > https://www.chiptuningshop.co.uk/product/vag-force-ignition-tool/

[Jobeso66]

On that ECU 99% of the time , you have to read eeprom with programmer, then use dump tool to get 6 byte cs and pin.
But I do not think that will help you as FVDI do not have option to enter manually CS form ECU. Only option for manual I see is to load EZS dump.

3 weeks ago i was trying to get ECU dump with GQ4 , i pulled ECU , read eeprom but all it showed "FF" in all fields, i concluded ecu was locked and this dump file is empty.


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[yugo45]

3 weeks ago i was trying to get ECU dump with GQ4 , i pulled ECU , read eeprom but all it showed "FF" in all fields, i concluded ecu was locked and this dump file is empty.


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You need to remove chip (desolder) in most cases .
Anyway like I told you above , ECU CS will not help you with FVDI. Personally I would not touch this car with FVDI .

[ladadens1]

see here same car.2,4 engine but same ecu type

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqSmvsQby-g

eprom type 95320

with this data rest can be done
vvdi2 do it.

to get diagose to the car switch on lights and hightbeams.on and off to wake up the car bus.

[ladadens1]

i have fvdi and vvdi2

and can say fvdi do this car easy

[doctore]

i have fvdi and vvdi2

and can say fvdi do this car easy

I'm really interested in how you did with fvdi this model when you can not read ezs on obd, and you can not do anything with a PIN&CS from ecu. I personally tried a few model :listen:

[rob h]

Dissamble the steering colum.
The ELV (J518) is in there, and holds all the data that is needed.
Many programmers can read these.
You could even add a transponder to its dump.

[ladadens1]

with cs+pin you can teach in new dealer key.and aftet this add new key.

why dont look on video?

i have audi a6 4f rom 08.2004 2,4 petrol.it works on my car.

[Jobeso66]

You need to remove chip (desolder) in most cases .
Anyway like I told you above , ECU CS will not help you with FVDI. Personally I would not touch this car with FVDI .

Yeah you are right I did the reading in-line attached to pcb with programmer , it worked before on Tijuan, Jetta , Anyway i went and got me original VCDS this weekend , will tested tomorrow


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[Jobeso66]

Dissamble the steering colum.
The ELV (J518) is in there, and holds all the data that is needed.
Many programmers can read these.
You could even add a transponder to its dump.

Thank you , That will be my next step if I don't have success with VCDS tomorrow , I kind of made a pre - disassemble inspection , it seems that I need to unscrew 2 visible headless bolts under steering column pointing downwards , I'll make a groove with dremel tool and unscrew with. Large flat screw driver ,


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[Jobeso66]

with cs+pin you can teach in new dealer key.and aftet this add new key.

why dont look on video?

i have audi a6 4f rom 08.2004 2,4 petrol.it works on my car.
Thank you ,
I had already watched that video , only thing diferente is I did not desolder its eeprom , tried to read it in-line , but failed , it showed me just FF characters.


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[ladadens1]

my vvdi pro read it with clamp

[Jobeso66]

Dissamble the steering colum.
The ELV (J518) is in there, and holds all the data that is needed.
Many programmers can read these.
You could even add a transponder to its dump.

Thank you all for your help I tried different ways but did not work , at the end ,
I removed the autho box in order to get my key done ,


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[tusentack]

Hi have read alot about the J518 module and what I have read from you posts you sound like an expert on this matter. I hope you could take the time and help me. I have Audi Q7 2007 that have the regular no ignition when I turn the key problem. I'm able to start the car if I use the Ross-tech software and clear the error. I have taken of the J518 module and changed the switches and the relay. I have tested the electrical motor and I works. Nothing of that fixes the problem. After this I used an Xprog to read out the eeprom and flash. I bought an secondhand J518 module with the same chip (it was from an A6) I transfered the eeprom and the flash to the new module and tested it it the car. Now the car is totaly black when I turn the key and after I put it in I can't take the key out. If I swap back to the old J518 I can remove the key like regular and if i clear the error code i can start the car like usual. What am I doing wrong or missing here? I thought it would be possible to clone my old J518 to an other working J518 and It would be plug and play? Am I wrong? Could it be the files that have been flipped? Do you have any other tips that I could try?


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[rob h]

Did both have the same mask?

And did you backup replacement ezs dump?
Eeprom and flash.

[tusentack]

Yes the both have the same mask 1L59W the same HW-Nr/Stand 4F0905852B 3.1 and the same SW-Nr/Index 4F0910852 02.20. I bought one used working on ebay. The only differece was that it was from a A6 not a Q7 like mine. I first backed-up the eeprom & Flash from my old J518. Then I took a backup of the new/used j518 eeprom & flash. Then I wrote my own eeprom and dump to the new J518. When I put it in the car it is all black and if I have a key in the lock i cant take it out. I cant either connect my vagcom to the car. If I reconnect my old J518 I can connect the vagcom (rosstech) and clear the error codes and start the car.

Here is a short history of what has happend.
One day when I put in the key in the lock and turned nothing happend besides the mmi turned on. I connected my vagcom and got (00288 - steering column lock actuator (n360) 014 - defective). When I clear the error the steering lock is opend and the car turns to life and I can start the car. As long as I have the key in the lock I can turn of the car and start it again. But when I remove the key it is back to the same as before and I need to clear the error again to use the car. Right now I alwas have a computer in the car when I need to use it. I thought if I cloned my old J518 to an other one that is the same it would be plug and play?

I have read alot about this problem and I have changed the relay, the 3 switches and the motor and it is still the same. Then I bought a used J518 with the same HW & SW and a XPROG v5.55. Here is where I am now. How should I continue on to solve this problem? Like I said the car is drivable with my orginal keys and old J518 but I need to use the cagcom every time to clear the codes and get it running. And I have all the dumps from my old and new j518 in backup.

I have also downloaded som other dumps from here and when I compare the to mine they look the same in size and information in them.

[amigokola]

Testing is easier with this bench set ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXMwXAVesHE
Or just cut red/black wire from 3pin connector when J518 is UNLOCKED and get rid of this shit !!

[lidons]

@amiokola @tusentack
I have repaired many ELVs of A6 and all successfully,
* * Now I have the same problem as @tusentack, DTC 00288 (steering wheel position sensor blocked) is output every three attempts and the DTC diagnosis must be cleared, in order to restart the ELV and start working correctly.
I have already changed (MCU9s12 3L40k, Can TJA1054, motor, relex, microswitches -EZS and ELV), soldered plate,) and same problem,

any other idea?

[EMCE159]

@amiokola @tusentack
I have repaired many ELVs of A6 and all successfully,
* * Now I have the same problem as @tusentack, DTC 00288 (steering wheel position sensor blocked) is output every three attempts and the DTC diagnosis must be cleared, in order to restart the ELV and start working correctly.
I have already changed (MCU9s12 3L40k, Can TJA1054, motor, relex, microswitches -EZS and ELV), soldered plate,) and same problem,

any other idea?

Cut the wire


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[amigokola]

When you clone MCU to other ELV all is ok ??


@amiokola @tusentack
I have repaired many ELVs of A6 and all successfully,
* * Now I have the same problem as @tusentack, DTC 00288 (steering wheel position sensor blocked) is output every three attempts and the DTC diagnosis must be cleared, in order to restart the ELV and start working correctly.
I have already changed (MCU9s12 3L40k, Can TJA1054, motor, relex, microswitches -EZS and ELV), soldered plate,) and same problem,

any other idea?

[drugowaz]

Why to bother. Program used elv.
If anyone need ekv modules working ones contact me,i have more than 30pcs euro

[lidons]

When you clone MCU to other ELV all is ok ??
When everything is cloned I have the same problem, even more often than before. with new MCU


Why to bother. Program used elv.
If anyone need ekv modules working ones contact me,i have more than 30pcs euro ok

[urcarpc]

Hi, ive added new key via tag tool using kessy elv dump (0l05y mask) but now i dont get access to kessy in the car. I used vvdi prog to write chip. Got boath eeprom and flash backed up.

Im going to read it with xprog and compare the files.

If anyone has been successful in adding keys via fvdi tag tool let us know. Thanks

[p1et]

Why to bother. Program used elv.
If anyone need ekv modules working ones contact me,i have more than 30pcs euro

Hello,

What tool can program used ELV? I guess surely AVDI but what about FVDI and others?

[ricked]

VVDI prog works ok on these , i do +5 a month and never have issues
also if you use new MCU use orginal ones not china/ali

[p1et]

VVDI prog works ok on these , i do +5 a month and never have issues
also if you use new MCU use orginal ones not china/ali

Ok but I'm talking about programming ELV to car, I think there is procedure for this?

I have faulty ELV and I already copied eeprom from original to second hand with same part numbers but after reading posts in this thread I'm not sure it's gonna work, I will try and report tomorrow.

[fred77]

Why to bother. Program used elv.
If anyone need ekv modules working ones contact me,i have more than 30pcs euro


With keys?

[ricked]

Ok but I'm talking about programming ELV to car, I think there is procedure for this?

I have faulty ELV and I already copied eeprom from original to second hand with same part numbers but after reading posts in this thread I'm not sure it's gonna work, I will try and report tomorrow.
if you did all correct it will work, if it works for me it works for you too if not you do something wrong, upload the file you have and i will have a look ad it
as for key programming use VVDI2

[p1et]

Well it seems there is another problem, car most likely was a victim of thief(s). In eeprom there are 2 available positions (1 and 2) and only 1st is stated as used. Original key is detected as No. 3 which I don't understand. I can't unlock this key by ELV eeprom with Tango either.

Gonna put new 8e chip and program straight to ELV, if this works then I will add new remote key.

[p1et]

With new 8e programmer into ELV car starts and immediately dies. Seems like thiefs tool messed up a little bit in ELV eeprom and not is not corresponding to ecu(?)

I leave this job for someone else with proper tools, I did what I could do. Thx.

[urcarpc]

I got tp key added to kessy dump via fvdi tag tool. I then put esl back in car but couldnt detect kessy. After fiddling about with the unit and esl motor, i managed to get steerin unlocked and ignition came on, so i programmed remote key in. Remote works fine but after taking key out and putting it back in i no longer get ignition.

The remote works, but no ignition, ive cut red/black wire but still nothing, and steering lock is unlocked.

I can manually wind the pully to lock steering, and once i put key in ignition the lock unlocks but no ignition. I dont know what the issue is

[ricked]

I got tp key added to kessy dump via fvdi tag tool. I then put esl back in car but couldnt detect kessy. After fiddling about with the unit and esl motor, i managed to get steerin unlocked and ignition came on, so i programmed remote key in. Remote works fine but after taking key out and putting it back in i no longer get ignition.

The remote works, but no ignition, ive cut red/black wire but still nothing, and steering lock is unlocked.

I can manually wind the pully to lock steering, and once i put key in ignition the lock unlocks but no ignition. I dont know what the issue is

this "key added to kessy dump via fvdi tag tool" is your problem

[urcarpc]

I added seperate tp via tag and then got ignition and added 8e remote, which also gave me ignition and unlocked deadlock. I get remote functions and esl unlocks but doesnt lock (feels as tho its stuck), but now i dont get ignition, but sometimes when the remote isnt working, i dont get access to kess, until i wind the lock pully manually. The mechanism is still bolted to car.

[urcarpc]

Should i put original dump back in and do obd bridge to access ecu and programme key in this way?