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ray-ray
4th October, 2016, 07:47 AM
Today the engineer from X-Tooltech and me run test on resetting immo. for all lost keys Toyota "h" key and Proxy USA. There tool has no opition to reset immo. It just support change to new immo. And then programming. So there was a obd2 cable with 3 plug in (PC, PS90, PVM)
PS90 recording in android os, PC recording in windows, PVM programming "Reset" function.
That data is then compared from Window to Android and is broken down to learn the command code.

ray-ray
4th October, 2016, 03:37 PM
Today we ran the PVM program with the computer and no car. So it was like connecting to the car but no car. These is where the break down to get the commands are done. After that we do it in android os, so there 2 os that the command can work under. (B5)
command for register key.

ray-ray
4th October, 2016, 04:14 PM
X-Tool by Obdstar is not the same as X-Tooltech maker of ps80/90 or x100 pad pro,x100 pad pro 2,ex400,ez500 these company has proven to come to the USA and work with me to improve there tool.

ray-ray
5th October, 2016, 06:50 AM
Soon the new tablet (X100 pro2) will be release to the Asian market. The USA version will be release by December (USA Pro1) today we add the qwick reset immo. Ford,mercury,Lincoln no 10minute wait. Toyota "G" & "H" all lost key reset will be tested in the a.m. Next to work on is Mazda 6 2016 system.

ray-ray
5th October, 2016, 10:45 PM
Today we test No waiting all lost keys on ford,mercury,Lincoln all pass 20 different cars and trucks. Next thing to add is parameter reset to marry all modules once something has been change. We recorded pats 5,6 next week will do the hec system.

ray-ray
6th October, 2016, 11:02 PM
2016 Ford Fusion "No Pin Code" all lost key 2min. To program new Proxy. Tested WORKS !!!
GM Pin read function is being added we found the command. Also GM new function add re-Write vin number.

ray-ray
7th October, 2016, 04:45 PM
I will be closing these thread soon you will all see the work I put behind these tablet. I will be at aapex & sema show in Vegas to release the tool to the USA market. American Key Supply will have YouTube Channel promoting all aspects of the tablet. Once again for all OBDSTAR IS FAKE COMPANY ( with no engineer working to improve there tool there update are bought. On the other hand Xtooltech has developed and correct thing on the tablet and are here with me in the USA building a new market.

paul_12345
7th October, 2016, 05:08 PM
I will be closing these thread soon you will all see the work I put behind these tablet. I will be at aapex & sema show in Vegas to release the tool to the USA market. American Key Supply will have YouTube Channel promoting all aspects of the tablet. Once again for all OBDSTAR IS FAKE COMPANY ( with no engineer working to improve there tool there update are bought. On the other hand Xtooltech has developed and correct thing on the tablet and are here with me in the USA building a new market.

Not sure about that xtool are the ones that released many many different tools even before x100 all failed, they also took advantage of obdstars name in the x100.

obdstar released lots before xtool.

although I'm sure with your help this new tool will be good for the USA market.

ray-ray
7th October, 2016, 10:42 PM
I've been getting my info from there engineer who have left Autel and join forces with Xtooltech to release a stable diagnostics tablet. After GM and Ford court battle with Autel they are now going into robotics and dropping there effort in diagnostics.

lion0304
14th October, 2016, 01:12 AM
It seem your PS90 has the clone called X100 PAD2:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-Free-Original-X100-PADII-Wifi-Bluetooth-PAD-2-with-VW-4th-5th-X100-PAD2-better/32748458669.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.49.LUbW4t&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10 056_10068_10055_10054_10069_10059_10078_10079_1007 3_10017_10080_10070_10082_10081_421_420_10060_1006 1_10052_10062_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_4&btsid=4fd413da-ea16-4d79-a387-b513cb520558

ray-ray
14th October, 2016, 01:20 AM
Not a clone original that's there new pad, but people still what everything for nothing. The USA version will only work with USA region cars.

ford Fusion is working correctly but 2016 mustang and F150 failed to read rolling pin and bypass. They are trying to work it out, even thou the MVP pro day it the same protcal.

lion0304
14th October, 2016, 05:25 AM
Yes i know it is new X100 pad and original from Xtool. Clone meaning it added transponder coil like PS90. I'm in European region, so PS90 cannot be my next purchase?
It also write: VAG 4 +5th added, but does it work like chinese said?

ray-ray
14th October, 2016, 05:56 AM
Are you willing to help in your region? They will send engineer to test that tablet in your region they are here now.

lion0304
14th October, 2016, 06:51 AM
I'm not a garage and almost car is French car in small country and small market. So i think is not good idea they come here.
They can test device in europe that enough.

devintche
7th December, 2016, 10:00 AM
is the x100 good for the usa or no ?

ray-ray
7th December, 2016, 04:12 PM
No good coverage is spotty, try propad2 instead or wait for the "Auto Pro PAD"

keysmith
7th December, 2016, 09:01 PM
No good coverage is spotty, try propad2 instead or wait for the "Auto Pro PAD"

Does the APP do Chrysler/Fiat rolling codes and Ford coded access?

Chuckk
7th December, 2016, 11:29 PM
I had the chance to test the PS90L. Unfortunately the new chrysler/dodge/jeep PIN read does not work. I think you still need to get the pin from the dealer only...even though it was suppose to have the bypass/function to read the newer pins.

The guy that bought it was told the ps90L was the USA version for newer chrysler pin system. Maybe he got the asian version instead of the american version who knows.

adelnooh
8th December, 2016, 09:47 AM
I got a good offer from "Autokeymall" to buy Xtool PS80 or PS90 ?
How can i know if it is original or fake ?
And which one is better ?

ray-ray
8th December, 2016, 04:12 PM
Chrysler/fiat system is not ready yet engineer is here with me. Working on writing vin,writing pin, and then the rolling code. System is only a few month old guys, what about the rest of the cars it can program?

keysmith
8th December, 2016, 07:12 PM
Chrysler/fiat system is not ready yet engineer is here with me. Working on writing vin,writing pin, and then the rolling code. System is only a few month old guys, what about the rest of the cars it can program?

The rest of the cars it can program can be done by many tools on the market. Without the inclusion of the Chrysler/Fiat and Ford coded system, this tool sits at the same level as many other key programers on the market. These 2 premium features would put it in a higher tier with the big boys and add much more value. I'm not asking for BMW or Mercedes key programming, just something thats already found on tools within the same price range, example the SmartBox.

ray-ray
9th December, 2016, 08:07 AM
I'm trying to reach there but also have to fix the older stuff. Like Ford Qwick reset all lost keys, perameter reset that has been added. Toyota "G & H" immo. Reset "Qwick" no waiting, also working the Proxy side. Honda virginize via obd2 plus immo. Ecu sync. Chrysler,Ford,GMC rewrite vin. Function Added.
Smartbox is a token base programmer, Auto Pro PAD is Not a token base unit. the best thing I support it!!!

keysmith
9th December, 2016, 06:43 PM
I'm ready to buy one once all the bugs are worked out I'm glad you didn't interpret my post as being cynical, I'm just looking out for my best interest

I can assume there will be an update fee? How long does a subscription last and what would be the cost?

camelgd
31st December, 2016, 11:10 PM
Ray Ray, any update on release of Auto Pro PAD?

ray-ray
1st January, 2017, 06:59 AM
Jimmy is leaving with all the Chrysler fix plus the newest fiat system along with newest Chrysler/fiat. Going back to china with all his data collected here in the states. Next engineer will be here in 2 weeks to work on Volkswagen.

ray-ray
4th January, 2017, 02:45 AM
Today we finish door code key pad on all fords tested and working. Ford Fusion 2017 bypassing nafta works on Ford Edge tested.
New chrysler/fiat pin code reading is being recorded and tested before releasing. More stuff being add to the USA Version.

dediegokey
5th January, 2017, 01:57 AM
Ray, what willbe the price on your new tool?

ray-ray
5th January, 2017, 03:13 AM
I don't get involve in the pricing, just in the support and testing. I can tell you that the tablet is getting much better with all the new stuff added. If you need one see me at the next show.

Beckerkey
5th January, 2017, 03:17 AM
ad100 pro.................

ray-ray
5th January, 2017, 07:53 AM
TLC1>>trade up for T-Code>>trade up for T-Code Pro Unit is fully loaded. How much do you think I invested in AD product. I was lucky to invest with the right company at the time. Time are changing and the future will tell who be on top. Code Seeker by strattac dead, Hotwire by keyless ride no development, TKO by Silca almost dead who bought out AD last year.

ford2002
7th January, 2017, 07:26 PM
good bay xtool ez500 plz sir yes or no

rlsrlf2013
10th January, 2017, 02:58 PM
Ray Ray, what is the list of distributers for the genuine Xtool X100 Pad 2 and PS80 / PS90 programmers? Is there a difference between the PS80 and the X100 Pad 2?

ray-ray
10th January, 2017, 09:05 PM
You can buy direct from company (Xtooltech) if in the USA only 1 will sell AKS.

elmelor
10th January, 2017, 11:11 PM
Hello ray ray, I add to the question. What is the difference between ps80 / 90 and x100 pad 2, in programming vehicles?

rlsrlf2013
10th January, 2017, 11:12 PM
Ray Ray, so that is to say that all of the Xtool X100 Pad 2's being sold online are not genuine? For instance there is a website "www.mk3.com" offering what appears to be a genuine X100 Pad 2. I have considered purchasing from them, but I would really like to know for sure that it is not a counterfeit.

ray-ray
11th January, 2017, 05:05 PM
Buy directly Xtooltech is the name of the factory, anything else at your own risk. They do take PayPal so you are protected.

obdsystems
11th January, 2017, 08:16 PM
X-Tool is ok -

Some works, some doesn't, sometimes bugger up car.
Next month they will bring out new tool and drop others.

Ie. don't expect to be only tool i have this just as backup. Don't take seriously

sleepyrz
25th January, 2017, 03:00 AM
is this autopropad going to be any different than the ps80L they are currently selling?

ray-ray
25th January, 2017, 04:04 AM
That the USA Region tablet I've been work with the engineer here in the USA. Gavin & Jimmy are there engineer ,we program and record the data communication going on there key programming. Later that night they examine the data and implement into the tablet. Next morning we test there update to the tablet, and they send the info to china. It's been almost 4 month and things are looking much better every day.

indienick
27th January, 2017, 06:14 PM
Anybody hear that XTool is in trouble? I had a contact there that said one month ago some boss and engineer got arrested in China for copying the Autel. Anyone can confirm it's true? My contact worked for XTool and left.

sleepyrz
4th February, 2017, 01:36 AM
are xtool and xtootech even the same company?

ray-ray
8th February, 2017, 05:35 PM
Rumor, Xtooltech is a strong company. Autel is on the way out, there main focus is in robotics now. For the USA market the tool is now working at 90% All "Can" system. In about 2 month we will start working on the older cars 2004 and under to complete all the protocols. Pin read Gm under Cruze will work for 2017 equinox and terrian tested. 2017?Jeep 5 digit pin fiat system is also done.

lwood
8th February, 2017, 11:00 PM
Rumor, Xtooltech is a strong company. Autel is on the way out, there main focus is in robotics now. For the USA market the tool is now working at 90% All "Can" system. In about 2 month we will start working on the older cars 2004 and under to complete all the protocols. Pin read Gm under Cruze will work for 2017 equinox and terrian tested. 2017?Jeep 5 digit pin fiat system is also done.

ray-ray what pad are you helping with?

ray-ray
9th February, 2017, 01:42 AM
PS80/90 for now but AKS has there own private label "AUTO PRO PAD" coming out February 18. So my beta testing was done on the PS80/90 that data will be transferred to the auto pro pad.

toniz
12th February, 2017, 08:19 PM
I dont understand the difference between the PS90 and X-100 pad2 pro. On the website they show same functions and specs.
Could someone clarify, does anyone own one, ot both?

ray-ray
12th February, 2017, 10:41 PM
Hardware is the same... software is different. American key supply (AKS) sign a contract for a private label (auto pro pad) I'm doing the work for the USA region. Are work will only be going onto AKS private label, it will not be given out.

sleepyrz
19th February, 2017, 12:59 AM
when is that autopro pad coming out?

they said they are waiting on you?

ray-ray
19th February, 2017, 04:33 AM
Auto pro pad is being ship to me on Monday. If approve the on all the improvements then the full production happens.

ray-ray
19th February, 2017, 04:51 AM
So I'm happy with progress things that have been added.
1. Acura/Honda (sync ecu &a immo, Ariel sync) 2016 all lost smart key.
2. Chrysler ( pcm vin rewrite, wynn vin & pin rewrite, 4 & 5 digit pin read via obd2, micropad programming)
3. Ford ( parameter reset, quick reset all lost keys, door pad pin read 05-17 ,2013-16 Fusion bypass)
4. Lexus/Toyota ( eeprom virgin dumps to all models, also ready to start. G & H quick reset all lost key )
5. Infinity/Nissan( improve pin read 08/09, bypass 20 better guide on programming proxy, remote function added)
6. Gm (remote section added, pin read add new system)

duplikeytor
20th February, 2017, 02:31 AM
So I'm happy with progress things that have been added.
1. Acura/Honda (sync ecu &a immo, Ariel sync) 2016 all lost smart key.
2. Chrysler ( pcm vin rewrite, wynn vin & pin rewrite, 4 & 5 digit pin read via obd2, micropad programming)
3. Ford ( parameter reset, quick reset all lost keys, door pad pin read 05-17 ,2013-16 Fusion bypass)
4. Lexus/Toyota ( eeprom virgin dumps to all models, also ready to start. G & H quick reset all lost key )
5. Infinity/Nissan( improve pin read 08/09, bypass 20 better guide on programming proxy, remote function added)
6. Gm (remote section added, pin read add new system)

Ray-ray,

Can you confirm that this tool will be the best for GM coverage in USA? Other tools always a disappointment, specially the Plus Keys, PK3 chips, and the rest that you are familiar with.

Thanks

ray-ray
20th February, 2017, 02:56 AM
We just add on the remote section to GM I'm just started. 2017 Chevy cruise pin read and program proxy " please note 2 proxy needed for these new year.

sleepyrz
20th February, 2017, 03:07 AM
Ray-ray,

Can you confirm that this tool will be the best for GM coverage in USA? Other tools always a disappointment, specially the Plus Keys, PK3 chips, and the rest that you are familiar with.

Thanks

My ck200 has done all of the circle plus and pk3 chipped cars I tried on it.....

ray-ray
20th February, 2017, 07:23 AM
Ck200 is a obsolete programmer, same goes for t300 and the m8. They all work fine with the oldies stuff, today we have new challenges here is my solution in one unit. For the US market

sleepyrz
20th February, 2017, 08:43 AM
it definitely is and has many limitations

even on what it says it CAN do

i agree t300 and m8 are far too old in years they can do

sleepyrz
20th February, 2017, 07:24 PM
Ford PATS4 & PATS5 10-Minute Bypass
Ford Parameter Reset
Audi/VW 2013-2016 Programming
Dodge/Mercedes Sprinter Bypass & Programming
Toyota H-Chip Programming w/ No 16-Minute Wait
Voltage Detection
Chrysler Type1 & Type2 PIN Read (EEPROM)
Subaru G-Key (80-Bit) Programming
Subaru 2017 MSOP EEPROM In-Circuit Programming w/ Adapter
Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Keyless Entry Keypad Code Read
Nissan BCM to PIN Conversion: Supports the old 5-digit BCM as well as the new 20-digit BCM found in 2013 and later Nissans and Infinitis.
Ford HEC & PATS2 10-Minute Bypass: Skip right on through the normal 10-minute wait.
Hyundai & Kia Old & New PIN Code Read: No more buying PINs from the dealer
2005 VW Touareg
Ford Fusion 2013+ System Rolling Code Bypass (No NASTF Needed)
Toyota G-Chip Programming w/ No 16-Minute Wait
Jeep/Chrysler/Fiat New System PIN Reading & Programming
Complete Chrysler CAN PIN Reading & Programming
Honda 2017 Proximity System Programming



This is the list of things that were to be added/it already had

Any of them not done yet?

ray-ray
21st February, 2017, 02:56 AM
Toyota H is not ready to put out, there is a rat in the company who selling to obdstar.
they want to release it with online only, I'm fighting to them about it.

Subaru and Audi engineer has paper and passport ready will be here soon.
sprinter and motorcycle & Watersport being added to the list.

everthing else is working as advertised.

ford2002
21st February, 2017, 07:49 AM
sir i bay ez500 xtool can it work for key programming for asia car and indian car plz sir soom info it you great help us

sleepyrz
22nd February, 2017, 01:31 AM
Ford PATS4 & PATS5 10-Minute Bypassworking
Ford Parameter Resetworking
Voltage Detection
Chrysler Type1 & Type2 PIN Read (EEPROM)working
Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Keyless Entry Keypad Code Readworking
Nissan BCM to PIN Conversion: Supports the old 5-digit BCM as well as the new 20-digit BCM found in 2013 and later Nissans and Infinitis.working
Ford HEC & PATS2 10-Minute Bypass: Skip right on through the normal 10-minute wait.working
Hyundai & Kia Old & New PIN Code Read: No more buying PINs from the dealerworking
Ford Fusion 2013+ System Rolling Code Bypass (No NASTF Needed)working
Toyota G-Chip Programming w/ No 16-Minute Waitworking
Jeep/Chrysler/Fiat New System PIN Reading & Programmingworking
Complete Chrysler CAN PIN Reading & Programmingworking
Honda 2017 Proximity System Programming working

Audi/VW 2013-2016 Programming coming soon
Dodge/Mercedes Sprinter Bypass & Programming coming soon
Subaru G-Key (80-Bit) Programming coming soon
Subaru 2017 MSOP EEPROM In-Circuit Programming w/ Adapter coming soon
2005 VW Touareg?????
Toyota H-Chip Programming w/ No 16-Minute Wait not sure of status


so it like this right now?

just trying to keep track of its progress

ray-ray
22nd February, 2017, 04:27 AM
http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzAwNzk2OTg0NA==&mid=2247483795&idx=1&sn=557c674db3d3488fe81a2b194f26de95&chksm=9b774cc8ac00c5de0d29d4348f7d76e233ec05033f56 1a4f7e09874a88bae9724d4c518c7638&mpshare=1&scene=1&srcid=0221jIu2zZTNhtPenZmej2Fc#rd

sleepyrz
26th February, 2017, 11:50 PM
Got Any news?

Chuckk
27th February, 2017, 02:52 AM
Are those updates only for autopad or for the 80 and 90 tablet also?

ray-ray
27th February, 2017, 03:53 AM
If you bought your ps80 or 90 threw AKS then you will be updated to USA version. USA version has a different firmware & Gui.

ford2002
27th February, 2017, 10:57 AM
how can i update usa version in my ez500 i just update immo software and other 16 software update it ok with my ez500 can ssome info for ez500 or tip

tech78
28th February, 2017, 04:56 AM
ray ray what`s the difference between the ps80 and the ps90 besides the size of the pad and the bluetooth?
and also if i buy a ps90 from xtooltech will it be american verison ? explain plz the issue of america version thanks

ray-ray
28th February, 2017, 06:05 AM
We use that platform (firmware) PS80/90 to do are beta testing for the USA version. AKS has sold it first 100 units with positive results. He has a contract with XTooltech to be the USA distributor. At that point Cary had a private label tablet built with new firmware (Auto Pro Pad). I'm waiting for my sample to be delivered. The point >>> Xtooltech is a good company offering good coverage with there tool. They have a new focus in the locksmith side of programming. These company main focus before was diagnostics.

tech78
28th February, 2017, 08:16 AM
are the ps80 and 90 from AKS have the same software as the ones from xtooltech?

Ezmony23
2nd March, 2017, 12:51 PM
Chuck, you know where he purchased it from? Ray said the ones that he sells at American lock will pull the pin code, but I'd sure like confirmation.

ray-ray
2nd March, 2017, 04:01 PM
Xtooltech is doing work for AKS fixing the coverage of the tool. They really do have engineer fixing commands, menu,and so on. That why there tablet will be selling in USA under AKS. These tool is not knock off they are developing more programs.

Ezmony23
3rd March, 2017, 09:55 AM
Ray-Ray can you confirm that it can pull the newer Chrysler can pin codes

TukoSalamanca
3rd March, 2017, 12:45 PM
Works this tools with european cars? or is only for USA and China?

sleepyrz
3rd March, 2017, 03:59 PM
current list of working systems and things coming soon

just recently completed:
1. Acura/Honda (sync ecu &a immo, Ariel sync) 2016 all lost smart key.
2. Chrysler ( pcm vin rewrite, wynn vin & pin rewrite, 4 & 5 digit pin read via obd2, micropad programming)
3. Ford ( parameter reset, quick reset all lost keys, door pad pin read 05-17 ,2013-16 Fusion bypass)
4. Lexus/Toyota ( eeprom virgin dumps to all models, also ready to start toyota g quick reset no 16 minute wait )
5. Infinity/Nissan( improve pin read 08/09, bypass 20 better guide on programming proxy, remote function added)
6. Gm (remote section added, pin read add new system

Ford PATS4 & PATS5 10-Minute Bypassworking
Ford Parameter Resetworking
Voltage Detection
Chrysler Type1 & Type2 PIN Read (EEPROM)working
Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Keyless Entry Keypad Code Readworking
Nissan BCM to PIN Conversion: Supports the old 5-digit BCM as well as the new 20-digit BCM found in 2013 and later Nissans and Infinitis.working
Ford HEC & PATS2 10-Minute Bypass: Skip right on through the normal 10-minute wait.working
Hyundai & Kia Old & New PIN Code Read: No more buying PINs from the dealerworking
Ford Fusion 2013+ System Rolling Code Bypass (No NASTF Needed)working
Toyota G-Chip Programming w/ No 16-Minute Waitworking
Jeep/Chrysler/Fiat New System PIN Reading & Programmingworking
Complete Chrysler CAN PIN Reading & Programmingworking
Honda 2017 Proximity System Programming working

Audi/VW 2013-2016 Programming coming soon
Dodge/Mercedes Sprinter Bypass & Programming coming soon
Subaru G-Key (80-Bit) Programming coming soon
Subaru 2017 MSOP EEPROM In-Circuit Programming w/ Adapter coming soon
2005 VW Touareg?????
Toyota H-Chip Programming w/ No 16-Minute Wait not sure of status

tech78
5th March, 2017, 09:38 AM
sleepyrz for what tool is this current list for " ?

ford2002
5th March, 2017, 10:03 AM
it for xtool ps80/90

sleepyrz
9th March, 2017, 12:44 AM
Ray ray where are we at on release of the autopropad

Ezmony23
9th March, 2017, 02:43 AM
Is there another forum for Usa users or is this the only one you guys know of?

ray-ray
9th March, 2017, 02:55 AM
My sample is here & it's got my blessing. Production starts today and will start to ship out in 2 weeks. Just one guy covering the whole USA. Everyone was looking for solutions for the newest system Fusion , micro pod, fiat system. Now I have a team in china looking at all data login and program commands. Soon the USA version will be complete, then they move to the European version.

ford2002
12th March, 2017, 08:49 PM
Ray-Ray
what different xtool and skp900 obdstar and which is best for key program

ray-ray
12th March, 2017, 10:05 PM
Xtooltech sent over 4 engineer to work here in the USA to develop the USA market. The European market will be next on the list for them. The other factory never offer that support.

duplikeytor
13th March, 2017, 01:50 AM
Xtooltech sent over 4 engineer to work here in the USA to develop the USA market. The European market will be next on the list for them. The other factory never offer that support.


WIll

it be the best for US vehicles, old and new?

ray-ray
13th March, 2017, 03:08 AM
Yes I'm going threw the list of cars with all system and protocols. Look for more tools to come out by Xtooltech.

Fallen
13th March, 2017, 08:08 AM
http://www.xtooltech.com/ENProducts.aspx

They have so many products that claim to do the same thing.
X-pad, x100 pad2 , x100 pad2 pro the list goes on and on.
They appear to make a product and then make another version of the same thing and add a bit on.
Sounds an awful lot like what OBDstar are doing (X100, X300, x300 dp PAD...)

Look at the AKS site this is a quote about the different tablets.

"Where is the PS80L going?

The PS80L is expected to be replaced with the new AutoProPAD in Feburary 2017. Yes, we realize that both the PS80 and PS90 are new products, but hey, progress moves fast with this company. The AutoProPAD is expected to be exactly the same thing as the PS80 except (1) it's all black (no red corner), (2) comes with a docking/charging station so you don't have to put it back into its case each time, and (3) will have a slightly faster processor. That's all we know for now."

AKS were selling one tablet, then another and now both of them are outdated and they want you to buy the NEW-NEW one!

How can you trust a company like this mate?
It's EXACTLY the same thing OBDstar has done.

kemaster
13th March, 2017, 02:03 PM
Maybe they will offer exchange plan. That is what every reputable company should act like.

ray-ray
13th March, 2017, 03:44 PM
The reason is AutoProPad won't be sold in china or eBay. Ps80/90 was the beta testing units and will turn into AutoProPad firmware soon at no charge. We wanted to test there products, there engineer and there integrity. After that AKS will be in control AutoProPad and its upgrade, firmware and future development. Update will be weekly develop by me or Erik. I guess me as a member here and report ever detail as I work on has no value. Time to end these tread.

Weasel3
13th March, 2017, 05:42 PM
The reason is AutoProPad won't be sold in china or eBay. Ps80/90 was the beta testing units and will turn into AutoProPad firmware soon at no charge. We wanted to test there products, there engineer and there integrity. After that AKS will be in control AutoProPad and its upgrade, firmware and future development. Update will be weekly develop by me or Erik. I guess me as a member here and report ever detail as I work on has no value. Time to end these tread.

Please don't end the thread!
Your information is of great value.
I always follow this information very carefully.
I am sorry that I haven't pushed "Thank you" each time. When some new info has come out.
I have the tool, and I have great believe in it. I think it is one of the most valued tools at the moment.
Comparing of what you are paying.
I know that the frequently updates is will be only better, when the developers get time to sort things out.
Working in the US and Europe.

The issue with hardware is a race that newer stop. It will always renew itself.
It is like Iphone. But what it can do is the important thing.
Old Iphone or new model Iphone. Both works! Gives you the same applications.
As long as it can update itself with the same software.
Is just a matter of choice. Fast new tool. Or an older version of the tool, but it does the same thing as the new one.

phuckyall
13th March, 2017, 05:44 PM
Chuck, you know where he purchased it from? Ray said the ones that he sells at American lock will pull the pin code, but I'd sure like confirmation.
If it doesn't I'm sure American Lock would let you return it. I'm about to squeeze the trigger on it if they specifically state I can return it if it doesn't function as expected.

ford2002
13th March, 2017, 08:42 PM
Please don't end the thread
i was update my xtool ez500 and there 17 update software in may like bm gm holdan and with american and european car milage also i update today

camelgd
14th March, 2017, 12:34 AM
I know I will be first in line to get new pad, Ray Ray, and I will happily report successes/failures to help you make a better tool. Not that I do that much outside of Ford compared to a lot of locksmiths, but I want you to succeed because that means a good solid tool for me. Thanks again, Ray, for your hard work on this.

Fallen
14th March, 2017, 02:18 AM
The reason is AutoProPad won't be sold in china or eBay. Ps80/90 was the beta testing units and will turn into AutoProPad firmware soon at no charge. We wanted to test there products, there engineer and there integrity. After that AKS will be in control AutoProPad and its upgrade, firmware and future development. Update will be weekly develop by me or Erik. I guess me as a member here and report ever detail as I work on has no value. Time to end these tread.

Nobody is questioning your integrity Ray Ray or asking you to finish your reports on the programmer but the points I raised are legitimate.
If they are going to do a firmware upgrade on their previous tablets free of charge then that's the right thing to do and I applaud it if it happens.

Another concern I have is that American cars get exported to many parts of the world.
What happens if your in Japan working on a 2016 Dodge but your tablet was bought from Japan?

You have already said that anything developed for the American market will only be available on US supplied tablets.
How would you react if anything that was developed on European cars was restricted to Euro purchased tablets?
"Sorry Americans, this particular VW software was developed by our European team so you can't have it..."

Also, if OBDstar is just copying all of the developments that are made by Xtool, would it not make sense to just buy the OBDstar tool
with all of the markets available at a cheaper price and wait for them to copy it?

I think they may have to re-evaluate this proposed region specific branding.

PS. Whoever drew the map of Australia needs a talking too as I believe they have drawn Antarctica.

435354

Ezmony23
14th March, 2017, 08:01 PM
I'm sure obd will copy the software eventually, but being able to pick up the phone and call ray for tech support is worth a whole lot to me.

HeXeN
16th March, 2017, 02:41 PM
Does this tool also cover cars as CK100, SBB, MVP/T300 ?

ford2002
17th March, 2017, 08:47 AM
yes it immo more

camelgd
18th March, 2017, 12:23 AM
Ray Ray, I don't know if this little tidbit will help, but here goes. I did a laser key for the local Ford dealership for a 2015 Ford F150 crewcab, and they let me program when their mechanics are busy. I tried with the F100 tool but the only protocol I could get it to connect with was chinese Ford New Mondeo. It would not connect under the F150 American, or any other protocol on the menu. Once it connected on Mondeo, it worked fine, programmed first time. Maybe that will help someone, if not you.

ray-ray
18th March, 2017, 02:48 AM
2017 Ford Fiesta = China ecoline
2013/16 Edge,F150/250,Fusion = China Mondeo
Some of the older Ford stuff works under the Australia Menu. I'm trying to add a new menu to the tablet. B.U.D.S BRP, CanAm Spider, KTM ,Sea do Watercraft, "BMW Motorcycle ". Shooting for these Summer, DK Member thanks!! For all your knowledge.

sleepyrz
18th March, 2017, 06:37 PM
Is there anything out there other than the MVP that will do the Scion FRS currently?

lellocchio
19th March, 2017, 01:14 PM
Hello!i want buy it. But,there is a key coding on renault without pin ?? Thanks

autodigitec
22nd March, 2017, 12:07 AM
Are these tablets useless for European market?

Anyone using it?

ps80l
23rd March, 2017, 11:50 PM
Are these tablets useless for European market?

Anyone using it?

From what I read in the thread. Seems like xtool is tweaking the tool to the US market. Once it's fully tweaked a firmware will be released that will cater just to the american market. That firmware will continue to be tweaked/updated by someone in the US. Once they get to that point....xtool will then focus on another region....europe is next from what Ray said.

Fallen
24th March, 2017, 06:48 AM
From what I read in the thread. Seems like xtool is tweaking the tool to the US market. Once it's fully tweaked a firmware will be released that will cater just to the american market. That firmware will continue to be tweaked/updated by someone in the US. Once they get to that point....xtool will then focus on another region....europe is next from what Ray said.

"This is different than PS80 machines you may see on sale in other countries.
The "L" on the end of the PS80L part number designates a version made for locksmiths in the US market"
Taken from the American Key Supply webpage.

Username: PS80L
Posts: 2
Join: March 2017
Posts in a thread about PS80L

Why are my spidey senses tingling....?

ps80l
24th March, 2017, 06:35 PM
Fallen...You are just repeating whats in the thread already...Same like I did. Its a modified PS80 for the US market only....add the "L"....Which when fully done will lose the name PS80L and name will turn into Autopropad. Correct?

keysmith
24th March, 2017, 08:38 PM
I think you missed Fallens point. I believe he was pointing out the coincidence of your user ID name, the date you joined and the fact that you've only posted in this thread. So to clarify are you in any way associated with the development or distribution of this product, not that I care.

ps80l
24th March, 2017, 08:40 PM
Nope. Just joined to see if I can get more info..

camelgd
24th March, 2017, 11:45 PM
2017 Ford Fiesta = China ecoline
2013/16 Edge,F150/250,Fusion = China Mondeo
Some of the older Ford stuff works under the Australia Menu. I'm trying to add a new menu to the tablet. B.U.D.S BRP, CanAm Spider, KTM ,Sea do Watercraft, "BMW Motorcycle ". Shooting for these Summer, DK Member thanks!! For all your knowledge.

One more, Ray Ray... Programmed 2014 Escape under China "New Focus" with F100 little green box.

ford2002
25th March, 2017, 07:43 AM
i change jeep 2010 pcm and ez500 prog it without pin

ford2002
25th March, 2017, 03:40 PM
Ray Ray
i not able to program key camry 2007 with xtool ez500 can some info onit

ps80l
25th March, 2017, 05:00 PM
Got my unit from AKS.. All unit is an over priced PS80. No eeprom adapters, no extra software... Don't know what I have to do to convert it to the Autopropad firmware. Their website mentions that the adapters will be mailed to me. I'll report back when I get correct firmware installed.

ray-ray
25th March, 2017, 11:17 PM
The firmware will be change and your eeprom and tag tool with other goodies will be sent to you as soon I fill there ready to be ship. I'm also working on a calculator that will find key in dump and display it for you. At that point you could write the Keylogic to a chip to start the car or add your value to the calculator to add back to the dump.

sleepyrz
25th March, 2017, 11:53 PM
whats wrong with them now? the eeprom and tag tool that is

ray-ray
26th March, 2017, 01:27 AM
I wanted to add Pomona clips and the goklip with the pogo pins for in circuit reading. I also going the add a Ariel tester and the new style power packs. I want to make sure you have all the tool it take to get the job done.

ps80l
26th March, 2017, 03:01 AM
Ray. I tried everything to remove all the chinese cars from the Immo menu and did not succeed. How do I do it?

ray-ray
26th March, 2017, 08:17 AM
Erik has your number he can teamview your tablet and remove those files.

ps80l
27th March, 2017, 01:40 AM
Erik tweaked the layout of my machine. Now it's starting to look like the machine AKS has promised. Thanks

ps80l
28th March, 2017, 02:11 AM
Drove 40 minutes to go to my very first car with PS80. 2013 Kia Forte Prox... It failed!! What a waste of time...

sleepyrz
28th March, 2017, 03:29 AM
http://autoproapp.com/AutoProPAD-Application-Guide-1.0.htm

How did it fail?

Did you have hazards on?
Did you start with ignition off?

ps80l
28th March, 2017, 03:42 AM
I have programmed several hyundai/kia prox. The hazard light is not really required. Supposedly it wakes up the computer but I have never done it when using tcode. I did try the hazard light and steping on the gas pedal/open close doors. This also did not work. Get a fail to communicate after I put code.
Text Erick and he told me they are aware their is a problem with this system. So I asked why not remove it from the menu.... Answer... Because we might forget about working on it. So I suggest everyone contact tech support and verify a specific system will work before taking on job and driving there.

FUSED:
28th March, 2017, 02:40 PM
Then XTOOL PAD 2 is for American market


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sleepyrz
28th March, 2017, 03:05 PM
Then XTOOL PAD 2 is for American market


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no

ps80l and ps90l and autopropad are for usa

ps80l
31st March, 2017, 07:25 PM
2nd car I try and it fails. 2012 Focus. Programmed fine with Smart Box.

ray-ray
31st March, 2017, 08:56 PM
With "US Ford" should have clear that problem, I'll check on it.

ps80l
31st March, 2017, 09:58 PM
Yes. USA FORD
PS80 made the dash flicker and then the dash went very dim while it searched for password. Found it and then got an error.
With SB the dash stay fully lit throughout the whole procedure.

ps80l
1st April, 2017, 12:41 AM
Went to try PS80 on a 2012 toyota all keys lost.
Pressed all keys lost and boom! Car was reset. Wow! Never used a machine that has done a reset that quick. Thumbs up!

sleepyrz
1st April, 2017, 01:48 AM
Toy44d? G?? H??

ps80l
1st April, 2017, 02:00 AM
My bad. Forgot to mention it was a 2012 Camry that only uses G chip here in the US.

ray-ray
1st April, 2017, 03:06 PM
I'm work on doing the same with the proxy "no wait reset". With time the tool will get much better, there has been a lot of upgrade correcting it coverage. Keep posting what fail so we can repair the issue. On Ford Focus there is a split in the protocol so there be 2 option, next time you try.

iHenry3
1st April, 2017, 03:58 PM
Ray Ray, when and where I can buy?

ps80l
1st April, 2017, 04:19 PM
2011 focus fail. "password not correct"
Programmed key with SB in about 2 seconds as it bypassed the 10 minute wait.
PS80
WIN: 1
FAIL: 3

sleepyrz
2nd April, 2017, 04:10 AM
what is sb?

ray-ray
2nd April, 2017, 03:44 PM
"Smart box" token base tablet. Once the new firmware is added you can sell that parking meter.

ps80l
2nd April, 2017, 06:17 PM
Do you have a set date? I waited to purchase until March as the unit was suppose to have all promised updates by end of February. Per American key supply sales page. April now and machine is basically an xtool x100 with added toyota G reset.

ford2002
3rd April, 2017, 02:19 PM
Ray Ray
what is about maxisys and xtool for ecu coding and programming

ps80l
4th April, 2017, 03:04 AM
Seems like Ray is taking a break from answering our questions. ;-)

camelgd
5th April, 2017, 11:59 PM
I grew up riding horses... If you use the spurs too much, or too hard, instead of going faster, you'll probably get bucked off. You might want to back off a smidge and let Ray Ray do his work. I know we are all eager to see what's coming, and the best thing you can do now is give him good feedback instead of asking the age old question "Are we there yet?"

ps80l
6th April, 2017, 02:32 AM
The problem is that they throw out promises with a date attached to them. Look for yourself on AKS. If they just gave a list of "upcoming" features then it's a different thing. So many of the features promised for release in December 2016 are not out yet four months later. If I bought something and was promised to "eventually" get a certain feature...I would not be asking over and over. I would just sit quietly and wait.

We will be there in 5 minutes...
Are we there yet?(asked three hours later)

ray-ray
6th April, 2017, 04:54 PM
I test all the beta programming over & over til I fill it perfect. I give them the all my pass the test protocols then there "it guy" compiles it and then release it. I post it once it pass my test, so the delay is in the compiling. We have ask to increase the "it" work
force to solve these problem.

ps80l
6th April, 2017, 10:58 PM
2007 Ford F150 add a key

Bypass...Fail
10 minute wait= Programmed ok.

ps80l
7th April, 2017, 03:45 AM
2006 Chrysler Town and Country
Auto selection gave me option to program key but failed after I put code in.
I went back in nd selected manually and was able to program.

ray-ray
7th April, 2017, 05:10 AM
In circuit adaptor board sample came in today I will test all eeprom family. If it pass then mass production 10 day with shipping. I also got the obd break out box. Here is what your getting so far.

Automat
8th April, 2017, 04:00 AM
Looking forward to the availability of a working autopropad, I'm anxious to dump my MaxiDas.
Are the diagnostics still going to be a priority as well with the pad?

sleepyrz
8th April, 2017, 05:52 AM
did the engineers ever come to do the audi/vw portion?

ray-ray
8th April, 2017, 02:27 PM
Waiting on his visa to clear.

stalonerambo
8th April, 2017, 03:05 PM
FIAT, BY OBD IS IT POSSIBLE?

ray-ray
8th April, 2017, 09:38 PM
Only fiat 500 and Chrysler renagate same protocol.

GSMsystem
8th April, 2017, 11:39 PM
HI, Ray. I am trying to buy a PS80 from xtooltech but they don't have option to buy so is any website you recommended for me or I am gonna wait till you finish your new device

Thank you

sleepyrz
8th April, 2017, 11:49 PM
skype them?

ps80l
9th April, 2017, 03:03 AM
I was adding a key to a 2014 Subaru XV(worked great)...Noticed in the menu it gave "all keys lost" option. Is that a mistake? From the research Ive done only Abrites could do that using the OBD.

jose9413
9th April, 2017, 04:33 AM
Hey whats up ray, its jose from ontario, wanted to talk about a few things, think you can message me? Thanks brotha

ps80l
10th April, 2017, 01:44 AM
Was playing with Nissan/infiniti system and it's pretty bad. Not user friendly at all. You have to read bcm, write it down...go back to calculate....slow!!

They should take not from Obdstar. Just hit enter a couple of times and your done. 4 seconds or less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jizyrkhAJiE

ray-ray
10th April, 2017, 02:29 AM
The new firmware will have the calculator and bcm serial on the same window. I also ask them to erase the 00000 when entering in the bcm

phuckyall
10th April, 2017, 11:52 PM
The new firmware will have the calculator and bcm serial on the same window. I also ask them to erase the 00000 when entering in the bcm
Can the current firmware convert 20 digit Nissan codes? Why is the Youtube channel named AutoProPad using a x100 pad 2?

ps80l
11th April, 2017, 02:24 AM
Convert 20 pin?? Never seen any machine that does that. All programmers I have bypass the 20 pin completely. The 20 pin system is easier to program than the older systems.

phuckyall
11th April, 2017, 04:31 AM
Convert 20 pin?? Never seen any machine that does that. All programmers I have bypass the 20 pin completely. The 20 pin system is easier to program than the older systems.
Regardless of how specially the machine handles it. Is the current firmware compatible with the 20 digit rolling codes? I'm between buying a ps80l or the Nissan ADS198 code dongle for my MVP.

ray-ray
11th April, 2017, 09:27 AM
4 digit pin must be enter by converting the 5 digit bcm number. 20 digit just get bypass you never see it happening.

ps80l
11th April, 2017, 07:49 PM
What's the status of the Dodge sprinter bypass?

sleepyrz
11th April, 2017, 07:56 PM
Regardless of how specially the machine handles it. Is the current firmware compatible with the 20 digit rolling codes? I'm between buying a ps80l or the Nissan ADS198 code dongle for my MVP.

Is that the smart dongle??

phuckyall
12th April, 2017, 03:12 AM
Is that the smart dongle??
It's the Nissan code dongle for the smart dongle. You know the dongle for the dongle.

ps80l
12th April, 2017, 06:00 PM
2014 Dodge ram Fobik. No pin read option available anywhere on menu. Unplugged and read pin and programmed with SB.

ray-ray
13th April, 2017, 01:10 AM
AD is also stuck with no pin option on that model. So it can be done so I will look into it a little closer. Thanks

ps80l
13th April, 2017, 01:32 AM
AD is also stuck with no pin option on that model. So it can be done so I will look into it a little closer. Thanks

Smart box said "wait 60 seconds to get pin" Took two seconds to read it. ;-)

ray-ray
13th April, 2017, 06:04 AM
Can it do the 2013 Dodge Dart ?

sleepyrz
13th April, 2017, 01:19 PM
442809


Isn't this for that??

It's on their Facebook page in the videos section

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=810050959152035&id=234646370025833&__tn__=%2As

ps80l
13th April, 2017, 02:19 PM
Can it do the 2013 Dodge Dart ?

Yes! Reads pin AND programs. This is the only reason why I bought machine several months ago. Was the only tool beside Micropod who can do those vehicles at that time.

sleepyrz
13th April, 2017, 04:09 PM
AD released 2013+ dart and ram pin code read option in january.......

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=810050959152035&id=234646370025833&__tn__=%2As

ps80l
13th April, 2017, 09:01 PM
AD released 2013+ dart and ram pin code read option in january.......

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=810050959152035&id=234646370025833&__tn__=%2As

Smart box released that about 4 months prior to AD.... Free upgrade..

camelgd
13th April, 2017, 09:30 PM
Don't mean to interrupt the flow of the conversation, but what is the dealer code for getting registered at XTool website? I just got my PS80L last night, got it initialized, but I do not have dealer code yet. AKS said to call Ray Ray, but you couldn't ask a busier person. Thanks in advance.

ps80l
13th April, 2017, 09:38 PM
Look at the piece of paper that has serial number on it. All info there.

camelgd
13th April, 2017, 09:53 PM
Well, maybe I'm plain stupid, or we are looking at two different pieces of paper. It has Product Name, Serial Number Activation code, Date, and Inspector, which is filled in with a red QA. I'm talking about the dealer code that is used to register on the website.

ps80l
13th April, 2017, 10:01 PM
Why do you need to register on website? I thought all registration was done on the tablet itself...Once registered on the tablet. It will connect to network and down all updates. That's what I did and it's working fine.

camelgd
13th April, 2017, 10:17 PM
Well, I'm confused, I thought it was like OBD star x100 updates, not automatic. I was looking at page 7 of manual 2.2 under update. My machine works fine but I hit update and it takes me to XTool main website, where I am not registered apparently. You can download update tool on left side of home XTool page, but that is just a tool. I'm not sure the initialization process at the beginning has anything to do with updating but, I could be totally wrong.

ps80l
13th April, 2017, 11:50 PM
I set it up onve when I took it out of the box. Now all updates are automatically listed. you then click to install

ray-ray
14th April, 2017, 05:47 AM
Give us a call Eric will help you out.

camelgd
14th April, 2017, 01:15 PM
Thanks, Got the PM I will call him later today.

jose9413
15th April, 2017, 12:35 AM
When would the autopropad come out? Not sure if i should wait for that first or get the ps80l

sleepyrz
15th April, 2017, 12:56 AM
slow boat from china usually takes a month...............

camelgd
15th April, 2017, 04:57 PM
Toyota Tacoma, "G" key, all keys lost, reset, and programmed in 2 keys without any problems, first time I used my new PS80L. Quick, and smooth...

ray-ray
16th April, 2017, 03:32 AM
I'm think of changing the color in the format from ( white, grey, black) to maybe a baby blue background, white bullets and black bold text. Would like it to pop so your eyes can focus on the menu and what it try to tell you.

ps80l
16th April, 2017, 04:22 AM
I'm think of changing the color in the format from ( white, grey, black) to maybe a baby blue background, white bullets and black bold text. Would like it to pop so your eyes can focus on the menu and what it try to tell you.

Get rid of all the vehicles not from the US market out of the menu. I think that should be a priority.

camelgd
16th April, 2017, 11:13 AM
I'm think of changing the color in the format from ( white, grey, black) to maybe a baby blue background, white bullets and black bold text. Would like it to pop so your eyes can focus on the menu and what it try to tell you.
I would be the last person you would want to advise on color scheme. I'm completely "taste-challenged"!

jose9413
17th April, 2017, 06:04 AM
well i just pulled the trigger on the ps80 haha, hopefully i get it in soon and can start testing this tool out, do you know if it is capable of cloning?

sleepyrz
17th April, 2017, 06:15 AM
it should be soon

camelgd
17th April, 2017, 06:52 PM
Ford Five Hundred 2006, all keys lost, chose no delay option and keys programmed in without delay. Battery on car was low enough that it had to be jumped, so tool doesn't seem to be as sensitive to low voltage as some tools.

ray-ray
17th April, 2017, 10:48 PM
That because your tablet has its own battery ,to power itself up. So even if the obd2 is dead you can still program your keys.

ps80l
18th April, 2017, 12:51 AM
Just Cars almost here. Hopefully they have something good to show as it's pretty disappointing of the features it does. Only good now is H quick reset which requires Hotspot. If you are in a parking garage with no signal... You are screwed.

ray-ray
18th April, 2017, 02:40 AM
That because obdstar copy's there work, so a new firmware is being created.
Let's not forget other fix.
1.Chrysler 200 no micro pod needed. Vin change and pin change.
2.Ford Fusion bypass,quick reset, perameter reset
3.mazda newest system bypass,quick reset, parameter reset

phuckyall
18th April, 2017, 04:25 AM
I'm really on the fence here, I can't decide

jose9413
18th April, 2017, 05:28 AM
So for what cars does it require internet? Or does it have to be connected to the internet the entire time to program a key?

ps80l
18th April, 2017, 02:11 PM
So for what cars does it require internet? Or does it have to be connected to the internet the entire time to program a key?

I believe the toy/lex smart key reset(16 minutes) also requires internet.

jose9413
18th April, 2017, 02:12 PM
I believe the toy/lex smart key reset(16 minutes) also requires internet.

So how has the machine worked for you? Ill be getting mine in today, can you pull the new/old hyundai pins?

ray-ray
18th April, 2017, 03:10 PM
There is no machine that pull the pin off the new Hyundai system. Online up 5 pin per day it's a one time pay service cost is $350.00. These service is not provide by Xtooltech.Once the new firmware is applied the"H" online will be offline. I been doing these long enough to know what you guys need and want. I've made a list of things I want to add to the tablet, that made the company slow production. They hire more engineers to help complete the first phase, that will be shown at "just cars".

TukoSalamanca
18th April, 2017, 04:17 PM
BMW cas key programmer, VAG group...

jose9413
18th April, 2017, 04:43 PM
How about the 15 jettas, push to start, can you finish programming the key using this tool and not odis? Can it do the e chassis bmw keys? How about mitsubishi proxies, new kia remotes?

ps80l
18th April, 2017, 05:34 PM
They advertised the pull pin on new Hyundai/Kia...which no machine in the world can do. We will see when they add this... BMW?? Vag?? Let them fix what they have now and add the features that were promised by December 2016 before requesting new stuff. #1 Reason why I bought was the Dodge sprinter bypass...Hopefully they have a demo of this at Just cars.

jose9413
19th April, 2017, 12:21 AM
So far ive done about 10 or so keys with it, all just adding keys and so far its pretty good, only thing is with some fords, it still needs the 10 minute wait but my skp does it in 2

ps80l
19th April, 2017, 12:51 AM
Everything Ive done with ford my cheap xtool could of done(no 10 minute bypass). The toyota I can do with techstream, No internet connection required..Only downside is the 16 minute wait. Tried chrysler system and it was a total fail. SB took care of that. Kia prox was a total fail also. I know I sound like a broken record...but I hope to see everything promised at Just cars...

jose9413
19th April, 2017, 02:37 AM
Everything Ive done with ford my cheap xtool could of done(no 10 minute bypass). The toyota I can do with techstream, No internet connection required..Only downside is the 16 minute wait. Tried chrysler system and it was a total fail. SB took care of that. Kia prox was a total fail also. I know I sound like a broken record...but I hope to see everything promised at Just cars...

Really? I did 3 chryslers today, a 16 dodge journey proxie, 15 chrysler 200 proxie, 14 jeep cherokee fobik and i was able to pull pin on all of them, i did a 16 elantra proxie, i think i had to go under a different vehicle but once it communicated, it worked. Just a little bummed that it cant pull the new/old pin even though it was advertised. I did a 07 cx-7, wouldn't work under mazda but did it under ford and erased all keys and just cycled the keys to get it programmed. Did a 17 expedition under flex i think and it worked with a 10 minute wait, i did a 15 edge proxie (the big bulky prox) worked flawlessly, got it done within a minute. Also did a 15 focus high security 80 bit, it had the 10 minute timer but i didnt feel like waiting so i grabbed the skp to do it in 2 minutes but im pretty positive it would have worked the ps80. Tomorrow im going to try and just use the ps80 and see what i have success with and what fails, but for the first day, it went pretty smooth

ps80l
19th April, 2017, 03:03 AM
Wow! That's good. I need to talk to Erick and see if I have the latest version. 16 Elantra prox pretty much anything can do. The 13 to about 15 in some Kia very few machines can do.

jose9413
19th April, 2017, 03:22 AM
Wow! That's good. I need to talk to Erick and see if I have the latest version. 16 Elantra prox pretty much anything can do. The 13 to about 15 in some Kia very few machines can do.

We do a lot of kias and hyubdais, next time i get one ill test it out and see if i have any luck with it and im not sure if youre aware but they have a chrysler menu and a usa chrysler menu

ps80l
19th April, 2017, 03:32 AM
Yes. Only use the stuff that says US

jose9413
20th April, 2017, 02:33 AM
alright fellas, heres some of the ones i got done doing today, toyota g chip 15 yaris and 11 corolla, 13 nissan altima 20 digit pin bypass, 14 ford edge h92, 2 15 nissan sentra proxy, 16 kia sorento (programmed a flip key for it, i was having troubles with the tcode doing it but the ps80 did it first try under type 5), 14 honda accord g chip, 12 toyota prius proxy, and a 13 dodge dart with the smart key (not keyless go) i didnt see an option to pull the pin for the 13 dodge but i didnt try under another system since i already had the code since i was originating it, but other then that, the ps80 programmed it fine. I didnt even have to pull out the tcode today, everything worked with the ps80 flawlessly. Really liking the tool so far, if you guys have any problems or something, let me know and maybe ill run into one of your problem cars and i can help you guys out.

ps80l
20th April, 2017, 02:42 AM
all keys lost For Dart and you already had the code?

For dart I get code AND program with SB. Then I lishi the door.

jose9413
20th April, 2017, 03:03 AM
yea, i really didnt look too much to see if i could pull the pin since i already had it, i really dont originate, just duplicate for the most part, tried to use the accureader on the door but i could read the wafers that well so i just got the key code

ps80l
20th April, 2017, 03:12 AM
accureader is horrible. Learn Lishi and you will save a lot of money...but in this case it didn't really matter as PS80 wouldn't of given you pin anyways and you would have to order...

jose9413
20th April, 2017, 04:17 AM
i have a couple lishi tools but i just cant figure it out haha and true, so what cars have to been able to do successfully?

ps80l
20th April, 2017, 04:49 AM
Nothing that I couldn't had done with my other tools.
Waiting on Kia/Hyundai new pin read, sprinter bypass and Subaru eeprom.

ray-ray
20th April, 2017, 07:17 AM
So today I did some more searching at the stealer there head tech was ask a a question? When adding a new immo. To a Hyundai does your scan tool adds the pin off the vin. By itself or do you input it? Reply I input in...which I get off are websit.
Next ? Can you rewrite that pin code ? Yes !!!
you figure out the rest.

camelgd
20th April, 2017, 03:38 PM
2009 Dodge Avenger, pulled pin code no problem, erased old keys and added two keys, 1 RHK and 1 y164pt.

ps80l
20th April, 2017, 06:02 PM
2006 Doge Ram PCM swapped out.

Auto mode told me it was Type2, Which is not correct. Kept giving me fail to communicate with anything I selected(Vin Change, Pcm Change). I manually selected CAN2 and it gave me a Pin. Tried to program and it said Pin was wrong.

Last time I had issues with Chrysler system, Erick told me to try out the "CAN backup system" I tried that today. Gave me a pin(different from earlier) and I selected to program key with it. Car Chimed and security light went out. Truck started right up.

totalkey
20th April, 2017, 06:08 PM
So today I did some more searching at the stealer there head tech was ask a a question? When adding a new immo. To a Hyundai does your scan tool adds the pin off the vin. By itself or do you input it? Reply I input in...which I get off are websit.
Next ? Can you rewrite that pin code ? Yes !!!
you figure out the rest.

most hyundai immo are inside engine ecu, i know you can make it virgin by diag and need pincode to match, pins need to put manually as far as i know

ray-ray
21st April, 2017, 04:18 AM
Virgin immo. Vin and (pin code 6digit) must be done by the tech. You can rewrite the vin. And pin code by putting it in neutral mode to do these you must create a 4digit pin code. These number can be made up, but must match when ask. Rewriting the new vin and pin code 6digit you must enter a 4 digit pin. My though are to write the pin 1234 in neutral mode then go into rewriting mode to view the vin and pin. That how to pull the pin.

camelgd
21st April, 2017, 04:35 PM
2008 Dodge Caliber, pulled pin programmed manually under CAN 2.

ps80l
23rd April, 2017, 02:42 AM
Two weeks away from Just cars. Haven't seen any updates for over two weeks so I believe they are saving them for the show. In two weeks we will finally have sprinter bypass!! Can't wait.

jose9413
24th April, 2017, 12:24 AM
nissan's are just a breeze with this tool, did a prox twist, ni04t's, programmed remote head keys, 20 digit bypasses, slot prox keys and they all work great, friday i did a 12 prius proxy i had to reset the immobilizer and add a second key to it. it worked great on the first try, also did a 14 dodge durango, i wasnt able to pull the pin but i ordered it and after i had the pin, it programmed no problem. I did a 2012 range rover evoque and worked first try also. Pulled the pin on a 14 dodge challenger and programed a new smart fobik keyless go key as well. Also did a 2014 ford fusion 128 bit keyed ignition, took about 3 minutes for it to bypass but the process went smoothly. I had a problem with a 2016 for explorer smart key, when i tried to program it, i think it said it wasnt supported yet but i tried under other cars with no luck, i had done a 17 ford expedition but it was a keyed model.

Automat
24th April, 2017, 10:01 PM
So today I did some more searching at the stealer there head tech was ask a a question? When adding a new immo. To a Hyundai does your scan tool adds the pin off the vin. By itself or do you input it? Reply I input in...which I get off are websit.
Next ? Can you rewrite that pin code ? Yes !!!
you figure out the rest.

Cool! Wonder if there's a way to do that with earlier 2008 up.

camelgd
25th April, 2017, 01:19 PM
2004 Chrysler 300m, y160 key, did not try to pull pin code because customer had it. Programmed with manual protocol.

ps80l
25th April, 2017, 10:12 PM
2014 Taurus Smart key Failed. "Communication failed" Menu shows 10 to 12 but I believe its the same system 10+.

I connected xtool x100 and it took care of it with no problems...funny as the machines are made by the same company.

camelgd
26th April, 2017, 11:48 PM
2006 Ford Expedition, Pats 3, Took the ten minute route, programmed just fine.

phuckyall
26th April, 2017, 11:50 PM
2006 Ford Expedition, Pats 3, Took the ten minute route, programmed just fine.
Does it have a bypass for PATS 3? Does the machine reference the vehicle type (2006 expedition) or system type (pats 3)

camelgd
26th April, 2017, 11:57 PM
Does it have a bypass for PATS 3? Does the machine reference the vehicle type (2006 expedition) or system type (pats 3)

It had the option listed, but I had already done pats 3 short cut on another vehicle, wanted to try 10 minute protocol. Besides, I use the 10 minutes to put tools away, write up bill, and up sell remotes and hand out business cards.:burnout:
Oh, it references Make , Model, and year.

sleepyrz
27th April, 2017, 02:34 AM
2014 Taurus Smart key Failed. "Communication failed" Menu shows 10 to 12 but I believe its the same system 10+.

I connected xtool x100 and it took care of it with no problems...funny as the machines are made by the same company.




whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

thats weird

ps80l
27th April, 2017, 02:42 AM
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

thats weird

Yes. Very strange. $200 programmer Win.

Went to a 2013 Malibu(New style). No option to read pin at all.

jose9413
28th April, 2017, 05:00 AM
2 15 smart cars, 13 kia optima slot prox key, 2 16 caravans pulled pin and programmed pod keys to them, 15 chrysler 200 pulled the 5 digit pin a programed a new prox key to it. all done with ps80

camelgd
28th April, 2017, 11:12 PM
2004 Mustang, all keys lost, used 10 min. bypass, 2 keys no problem.
2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid, all keys lost reset and program two keys, very quick.
2008 Nissan Titan, failed first time, don't know why, tried again and went smooth second time, programmed in three keys.

ray-ray
29th April, 2017, 07:23 PM
4/17 Toyota Prius new proxy system, tryied tcode under type6&7 with the hazard light on. Nothing would not communicate try few time but would not connect.
I hook up the xtool under proxy 3 I use these system a lot and never had these menu pop up. It ask me to go to the start button a push it and it communicated. 16 min reset with the start button on all the way threw registration. It all work perfect

ps80l
29th April, 2017, 10:28 PM
If no smart keys available... Toy/lex required you press on brake pedal while system is connecting. That prius is prox 6 system(prox 3 in xtool) works great if you have Internet service.

ray-ray
1st May, 2017, 08:55 PM
New GM upload with pin read ready

ps80l
1st May, 2017, 10:38 PM
Cool. Ill check on the GM later.

Today I had a 2015 Dodge Ram Fobik. Customer had Pin already.

PS80, Auto mode fail. Can Backup, Fail...Go into manual and select 13+ Ram. Does not connect to vehicle. Fail to communicate, not even a pin read option

Connect obdstar X100 and it programs key with Pin customer provided.... Another win for a cheap programmer. hahaha

ps80l
2nd May, 2017, 12:57 AM
This is what I have. I show no new updates...only updates that pop up is items Erick removed.

App Version 2.2.2
26.01 BMW
27.07 Chrysler
26.10 Ferrari
26.50 Fiat
27.02 Ford(US)
27.02 GM
26.26 Honda
26.72 Hyundai
26.31 Jaguar
26.69 KIA
26.32 Land Rover
26.14 Maserati
26.60 Mazda
26.21 Mercedes
26.50 Mitsubishi
26.67 Nissan
26.10 Porsche
26.00 Smart
26.33 Subaru
26.25 Suzuki
26.00 Toyota(US)
27.14 VW

ps80l
2nd May, 2017, 01:19 AM
The number one thing about the PS80....

Ive programmed several hundred cars and have never had a customer compliment the programmer I'm using. Several customers have told me how expensive the PS80 looks. Now when I go to jobs that Im making good money, I take out the PS80 instead of my x100...Makes it seem like they are getting their moneys worth.

jose9413
2nd May, 2017, 02:25 AM
446952took time to put some logos so it would be easier to find what I was looking for, instead of having to scroll up and down through the list

camelgd
2nd May, 2017, 01:23 PM
2012 Ford Focus, side-milled remote head key added, in about 3 (?) minutes. My biggest problem has been that it has been very rainy here the last 3 days, and I hate to take something so nice out of its case even inside the car when its raining, also lightning and such.

ps80l
2nd May, 2017, 03:14 PM
How do you remove that little scroll wheel thing on the right? Very annoying.

ray-ray
2nd May, 2017, 03:24 PM
The camera button can be move any where on the screen. Take your finger and drag it to a different locations.

ps80l
2nd May, 2017, 03:37 PM
The camera button can be move any where on the screen. Take your finger and drag it to a different locations.

I noticed that but I want to remove it. Any way of doing that?

ps80l
2nd May, 2017, 07:09 PM
2012 Malibu fail!!

Programmed fine with OBDstar x100....

ps80l
4th May, 2017, 04:44 AM
figured out way to update...

hawklock
4th May, 2017, 05:11 AM
I'm really close to pulling the trigger on this, but waiting to see if the AutoProPad drops tomorrow. I was told that it will be at Just Cars. If anyone has any status updates, please post. I'm guessing Ray-Ray has some info.

ps80l
4th May, 2017, 05:30 AM
I'll give you my honest opinion...Will check it out tomorrow

camelgd
4th May, 2017, 12:26 PM
figured out way to update...

I kinda backed into it myself. You have to do the download arrows on upper left of screen, then sweep down menu on upper left and hit update. I updated everything at once, about 50 minutes... If there is anything else to do, I do not know what it is.

2015 Ford Focus, added two RHK after cutting two of the HARDEST key blanks I have ever run into, China origin.

ps80l
4th May, 2017, 06:42 PM
I was wrong. Unit still does not update latest versions. Either something wrong with my device or someone is blocking my access to updates.

ps80l
4th May, 2017, 06:57 PM
Xtool won't help. They say contact seller(AKS)
Erick always busy when I contact him
AKS tells me contact Erick/Ray
The cycle continues....
Example..I have kia version 26.69 website shows newest is 26.73

ps80l
5th May, 2017, 06:10 PM
Last night unit finally connected to update servers and I got the latest immo tools. Have not tested them. All the international crap stills shows up. They need to figure out how to remove if the truly want a US only machine.

hawklock
5th May, 2017, 08:11 PM
AutoProPad is on the AKS website this morning. Sale priced for pre-order. Expected delivery - mid-May.

camelgd
6th May, 2017, 01:08 AM
2005 Mercury Grand Marquis, all keys lost, 2 keys programmed bypassed 10 minute delay.
2006 Ford Taurus add 1 key bypass worked fine.

ps80l
6th May, 2017, 07:28 PM
AutoProPad is on the AKS website this morning. Sale priced for pre-order. Expected delivery - mid-May.

Strange... Why is it cheaper than the PS80L??

sleepyrz
6th May, 2017, 07:37 PM
Presale pricing

ps80l
6th May, 2017, 07:45 PM
They had the final design at Just cars. Looks much better than the PS80 they are selling now. All corners are black and have a downward slope on the hard rubber corners. Makes tablet look slimmer. Also the rear has an elastic holder to slip in your hand and hold onto tablet.

sleepyrz
6th May, 2017, 08:21 PM
You can see the pics on page 4 of this thread

ps80l
7th May, 2017, 12:53 AM
You can see the pics on page 4 of this thread

yup! Thats the one Ray showed me...right before someone stole something from their display...I believe a vvdi remote generator tool. Shady!!!!

Carkeysa
7th May, 2017, 08:34 AM
Just checked on AKS site and saw this for the AutoProPad. Is this only for Pin Code Reading or for general use of the tool per year?

Unlimited Usage: No tokens to worry about, just pay your annual subscription (estimated at $850 - $1000 in 2017). Your first year is included for free!

hawklock
7th May, 2017, 01:50 PM
Just checked on AKS site and saw this for the AutoProPad. Is this only for Pin Code Reading or for general use of the tool per year?

Unlimited Usage: No tokens to worry about, just pay your annual subscription (estimated at $850 - $1000 in 2017). Your first year is included for free!


I talked to Ray a couple weeks ago. He said that they were planning on a $900 annual update. First year is included with the tool. He also said that you can skip years, meaning that if you don't pay for your annual subscription, your tool will continue to work with the software that is currently on it, you just won't get any new information, updates, or support.

ps80l
7th May, 2017, 06:54 PM
Some guy at just cars was saying unit resets Lexus Prox 7 system. Wasn't aware that it did that. I've done prox 6 only. Text Erik and he never responded to confirm this. Anyone else know if it does reset prox 7?

ray-ray
8th May, 2017, 01:08 AM
Proxy 4 is the same as proxy7 >>> just need to turn on the hazard and step on the brake.