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Dreambox 800HD vs SpiderBox 9000HD

Originally Posted by firestorm the law sates that any person who supplys ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestorm View Post
    the law sates that any person who supplys information or means to recive pay tv with out paying subscription is commiting fraud weather it in person or over the internet.Like jackpot say if you did it with sky they would hang you out to die just ask the bloke in liverpool who got jailed.In Cyprus there were raids against people running/using payserver and court apperances to follow.
    So in letting this sort of server/gift be openly talked about on here is sailing very lose to the wind

    but back to the subject i would go for the dm800 before the spiderbox put it this way you wont see our friends in china cloneing sipderboxs why???

    i to would buy a dm800 however it would have to be a genuine one not a clone ( bad experience ) but the spider is a low cost alternative , 1 reason chinese do not clone is no vast profit on clone spiderbox also not open source linux, more difficult for firmware !
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    and with out the gift no one would look twice at it.And as i pionted out the gift will be shut down once the tv operators get there lawer into the gift/payservers internet host like other severs have been in the past
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    Quote Originally Posted by firestorm View Post
    and with out the gift no one would look twice at it.And as i pionted out the gift will be shut down once the tv operators get there lawer into the gift/payservers internet host like other severs have been in the past

    i do believe there is an option to buy it without the gift
    to be honest with you i do not use the gift whats available is not exactly prime anyhow
    the eagle box i have is a dm clone i need say no more
    however as a budget hd reciever the spider hits the mark
    if someone advises me how to completly remove the gift i would without any hesitation, it would open 2 further slots for cccam etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afc007 View Post
    i do believe there is an option to buy it without the gift
    to be honest with you i do not use the gift whats available is not exactly prime anyhow
    the eagle box i have is a dm clone i need say no more
    however as a budget hd reciever the spider hits the mark
    if someone advises me how to completly remove the gift i would without any hesitation, it would open 2 further slots for cccam etc.
    I believe by factory resetting the box will remove the gift but obviously you'd have to set the box up from scratch again(bit of a pain)and i also believe when you do a software update if you do software and all data update that removes the gift.Not tried it myself so dont quote me but its what i've red elswhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark36 View Post
    I believe by factory resetting the box will remove the gift but obviously you'd have to set the box up from scratch again(bit of a pain)and i also believe when you do a software update if you do software and all data update that removes the gift.Not tried it myself so dont quote me but its what i've red elswhere.

    i have done factory reset does not remove it but you have to apply the so called gift patch to enable the network / server portion part of the menu again
    without that the box is truely fta but i need to enter data in newcamd / cccam area's
    not sure about sw/data update all i have read you may lose your registration code not that it completly removes all neuxostream references
    perhaps someone could advise
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    cheers mate you learn something new everyday.
    Just had a look at the dec 09 patch(NO GIFT)and this might be what your after.gives you what your after(newcs etc) but i'm not sure you'll not be going back to the issues earlier patches had(cccam) as since then there doesn't seem to be any updates for non gift boxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestorm View Post
    If a dreambox thread is about cardsahring then ban/remove it but all this spiderbox talk is about the gift which is a server that shares cards and the only way to get accsess to this server is to buy a spiderbox so that in my eyes makes it a pay server

    Is not Spiderbox Fault you are so many idiots here only talk aboyt Gift....Gift is the Gift....

    Spiderbox it self is better box them all oether OEM boxex in market...This the only reason why it get Atack...

    Idiots allways will atack together with Competitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobi View Post
    Is not Spiderbox Fault you are so many idiots here only talk aboyt Gift....Gift is the Gift....

    Spiderbox it self is better box them all oether OEM boxex in market...This the only reason why it get Atack...

    Idiots allways will atack together with Competitors.
    Do you make or sell them ? It's all about opinions, chill out m8.

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    bobi did you look at my post on the previous page addressing the issue of bringing this back on topic? The thread was getting back on topic and here we are again the same as all the other similar threads that ended up going nowhere.

    For the benefits of others lets stick to the topic at hand.

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    spiderbox is a good box,its the support thats shite in my opinion. a dreambox all day long in my opinion is best

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    I think we all know where they originate from, but I think that's the basis some members post on rather than the plus and minus points of the receiver, yes they are not perfect but what receiver is, they are a great priced receiver for what they do, gift or no gift, the gift is only a bonus, though yes I can quite understand that it maybe is this part of the receiver that gets promoted a little to much.... Look beyond the gift and you have a great priced receiver for what it does....

    The original post, is Spiderbox better than DM800HD, the answer is I don't know! It depends on what you want from the receiver, for some the Spiderbox is better, for some the Dreambox, it really is a personal choice thing, I as a seller run and try them all, test them out, I want to know what I'm selling.... I have here running right now a clone DM500 (we don't sell clones BTW), a CubeRevo, a Spiderbox 9000HD, Spiderbox 5000SD, Eagle and a Humax Freesat receiver, Technomate TM-800HD (how many can say they have one of these to test!) and finally a DM500HD, could I really pick one of these and say this is the best? Honest answer, no!

    All have plus and minus points, depends what you need it to do... You can see by the mix of makes and models I have here right now (all of which we sell bar the Humax and DM500 clone) I have no affiliation to any maker or model, I like to test them all, it's a great job

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    Quote Originally Posted by firestorm View Post
    you need to get back to the stickies if you think a eurovox,starbox(starview) work the same way as c/s they are not even linux base boxes they use cam to open the keys NOT c/s via server private or a gift.Cam discusion is allowed on this site c/s is not As for loading firmware ie images on this site they do not contain any keys qoute"# Do not post images with keys or roms included
    # Do not post modified firmware which contains auto updating EMU"
    so anything downloaded from this site quote"directly to decrypt pay tv via cable and is in affect the same as CS "

    should be reported to a mod or admin to keep this site open


    And for this reason I have removed all attachments I have posted regarding TM/Spider/Gamma/Mill etc Which have keys/firmware etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulld0g View Post
    Do you make or sell them ? It's all about opinions, chill out m8.
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    I have been looking to get a hd800 clone But i get mixed opinions, alunfennel, who to me is an extremely knowledgable member along with others insist that clones are very temperental, yet others say Its worth it. Just something for you to think about mate.

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    I Just purchased a clone 800hd and it dead. The person i bought it off is replacing the unit free of charge and testing it before he ships it out. My first impressions of the box is thats its a nice piece of kit to be honest. I nearly went with the Spiderbox but in end chose the DM800HD

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    Quote Originally Posted by afc007 View Post
    i have done factory reset does not remove it but you have to apply the so called gift patch to enable the network / server portion part of the menu again
    without that the box is truely fta but i need to enter data in newcamd / cccam area's
    not sure about sw/data update all i have read you may lose your registration code not that it completly removes all neuxostream references
    perhaps someone could advise
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    i got a 9000 hd and it came as a free to air only receiver
    and to get the gift the gift patch had to be loaded and set up
    i have never bought any receiver that came any other way
    from what iv'e read if you load a non gift patch
    and select [sw/data update all] to load it on the receiver
    this will clear the gift patch this is why they say write down
    the serial number and key number to get the gift back if you
    make a mistake when loading any new patches
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