[KMM]

Police have raided a house in Yorkshire where they have arrested a man under 40 police have also confiscated a large number of clone Dreambox DM800 and DM500.yourkshire police station have asked for representative of dream multimedia to clarify if the Dreamboxes are original or fake.This is only one of a number of raids it will continue. one raid links to another clone seller.


This source of information has come from the ageneses.

[BlueBox]

Originally Posted by KMM Police have raided a house in Yorkshire where they have arrested a man under 40 police have also confiscated a large number of clone Dreambox DM800 and DM500.yourkshire police station have asked for representative of dream multimedia to clarify if the Dreamboxes are original or fake.This is only one of a number of raids it will continue. one raid links to another clone seller. This source of information has come from the ageneses.

any links to story?

[popi110]

i think we know who this is its a shame because he has lots off stuff at the right price i think he is now shipping direct from china with a chinese based site the uk one says now sold out of 500 and 800

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

Originally Posted by popi110 i think we know who this is its a shame because he has lots off stuff at the right price i think he is now shipping direct from china with a chinese based site the uk one says now sold out of 500 and 800

This is not who i think he is, is he? Can You pm me with further details please...

[linuxsat]

ok if you are thinking it was me then sorry unfortunately it isnt me if anything i am going more stronger then ever with the dm8000 coming soon. I think if the police has too much of the free time then they will be going for the paid server sites first before me, luckly i dont do servers and never have done. so yes its not me and i live in yorkshire and ive not heard of any arrests linked to dreamboxes.

[snagga]

No other news about this raid, apart from forums.

[jumpinjo]

the story is the insignificant ramblings of some fool

[zinediner]

Thats good to hear that it was not you. Dont want to loose a decent trustworthy supplier

[linuxsat]

i think this would be a bit more intresting topic to discuss instead

Dream Multimedia closed by the police
Info by alibecks.

40 Custom Officers and Police Officers broke in Dream Multimedia's HQ
offices in Lünen (Germany).
The warrant search was extended to private houses of CEOs and share
holders (T*m Ziem*nn, K*y Ziem*nn, Jür*en Leu*ring, Di*k Gl*nz and
the turkish Asl*n).

The break-in is apparently motivated to a Custom malicious wrong
declaration of embedded modems on DreamBox's STB. At present
private belongings of the owners of Dream Multimedia have been
confiscated. Rumors say that Custom is claiming 6 years of importing
DreamBox STB without paying import duties due to the embedded modem.

Presumably searches would be extended to all companies that have been
importing DreamBox Set-Top-Boxes in the next coming months for duties
claims in Germany and almost all EU countries as it is now proven that the
non-working modem was installed for tax scams only.

Up to now all the stock is under Custom’s block and no goods will be officially
released. It seems that border inspection on DreamBox Set-Top-Boxes and
the well known clones of DreamBox will be strongly enlarged limiting the
import of this items in the European territory.

Informers are reporting that this has to be considered the final Knock-Out
to the most famous audiovisual company worldwide and that it all started
from provider’s pressure on stopping Dream Multimedia from producing this
STB becoming more and more popular for the ground breaking card-sharing
phenomenon.

[snagga]

Originally Posted by linuxsat i think this would be a bit more intresting topic to discuss instead Dream Multimedia closed by the police Info by alibecks. 40 Custom Officers and Police Officers broke in Dream Multimedia's HQ offices in Lünen (Germany). The warrant search was extended to private houses of CEOs and share holders (T*m Ziem*nn, K*y Ziem*nn, Jür*en Leu*ring, Di*k Gl*nz and the turkish Asl*n). The break-in is apparently motivated to a Custom malicious wrong declaration of embedded modems on DreamBox's STB. At present private belongings of the owners of Dream Multimedia have been confiscated. Rumors say that Custom is claiming 6 years of importing DreamBox STB without paying import duties due to the embedded modem. Presumably searches would be extended to all companies that have been importing DreamBox Set-Top-Boxes in the next coming months for duties claims in Germany and almost all EU countries as it is now proven that the non-working modem was installed for tax scams only. Up to now all the stock is under Custom’s block and no goods will be officially released. It seems that border inspection on DreamBox Set-Top-Boxes and the well known clones of DreamBox will be strongly enlarged limiting the import of this items in the European territory. Informers are reporting that this has to be considered the final Knock-Out to the most famous audiovisual company worldwide and that it all started from provider’s pressure on stopping Dream Multimedia from producing this STB becoming more and more popular for the ground breaking card-sharing phenomenon.

Give link to source. Thanks

[ianmac]

Originally Posted by linuxsat ok if you are thinking it was me then sorry unfortunately it isnt me if anything i am going more stronger then ever with the dm8000 coming soon. I think if the police has too much of the free time then they will be going for the paid server sites first before me, luckly i dont do servers and never have done. so yes its not me and i live in yorkshire and ive not heard of any arrests linked to dreamboxes.

Glad to hear it was not you, linuxsat...

--- Ian ---

[popi110]

Originally Posted by zinediner Thats good to hear that it was not you. Dont want to loose a decent trustworthy supplier

i to am very happy with that hope to see you getting better and loking forward to the Dm 8000

[jfish]

Originally Posted by KMM Police have raided a house in Yorkshire where they have arrested a man under 40 police have also confiscated a large number of clone Dreambox DM800 and DM500.yourkshire police station have asked for representative of dream multimedia to clarify if the Dreamboxes are original or fake.This is only one of a number of raids it will continue. one raid links to another clone seller. This source of information has come from the ageneses.

is it illegal to sell DM clones ?

is it illegal to sell DM sat version ?

story smells of bullshit, if they wanted to stop the fake DM why not go direct to the source, China ..

[portbhoy]

Originally Posted by snagga Give link to source. Thanks

That's story's bull aswell and was circulated pre christmas it was a take on the story that Dream where working with police and customs to clamp down on clone sellers. The clone sellers re wrote it and released the above version obviously for their own ends

[digsatman]

Originally Posted by jfish is it illegal to sell DM clones ? is it illegal to sell DM sat version ?

There are two main aspects that may be illegal.

The main one is "Passing Off" which is illegal. This is when a fake/clone product purports to be an original.

The second is any intellectual copyright that may be held by the genuine manufacturer in terms of software design, hardware design, logos and trademarks.


Many "clones" I have seen do pass themselves off as original dreamboxes and are thus illegal. Indeed, unscrupulous clone sellers often do not make it clear that the device they are selling is a clone and are criminally complicit with the manufacturers/distributors in the offence of "passing off".

Given that most clones use the Dreambox name and logo and their manual is a clone of the genuine article, there would be no doubt in court that many clones are passing themselves off. It is unlikely any effective prosection could be made against the manufacturer in the far east so prosecutions would be made against the seller/agent in the UK. Such prosecutions would be brought by Trading Standards or Dreambox themselves,