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  • Ifti
    Banned
    • Mar 2011
    • 4

    #1

    Free Our Schools

    Free Our Schools

    Almost all children now believe they go to school to pass exams. The idea that they may be there for an education is irrelevant. State schools have become exam factories, interested only in A to C Grades. They do not educate children. Exam results do not reflect a candidate***8217;s innate ability. Employers have moaned for years that too many employees cannot read or write properly. According to a survey, school-leavers and even graduates lack basic literacy and numeracy skills. More and more companies are having to provide remedial training to new staff, who can***8217;t write clear instructions, do simple maths, or solve problems. Both graduates and school-leavers were also criticised for their sloppy time-keeping, ignorance of basic customer service and lack of self-discipline.

    Bilingual Muslims children have a right, as much as any other faith group, to be taught their culture, languages and faith alongside a mainstream curriculum. More faith schools will be opened under sweeping reforms of the education system in England. There is a dire need for the growth of state funded Muslim schools to meet the growing needs and demands of the Muslim parents and children.

    Now the time has come that parents and community should take over the running of their local schools. Parent-run schools will give the diversity, the choice and the competition that the wealthy have in the private sector. Parents can perform a better job than the Local Authority because parents have a genuine vested interest. The Local Authority simply cannot be trusted.

    The British Government is planning to make it easier to schools to ***8220;opt out***8221; from the Local Authorities. Muslim children in state schools feel isolated and confused about who they are. This can cause dissatisfaction and lead them into criminality, and the lack of a true understanding of Islam can ultimately make them more susceptible to the teachings of fundamentalists like Christians during the middle ages and Jews in recent times in Palestine. Fundamentalism is nothing to do with Islam and Muslim; you are either a Muslim or a non-Muslim.

    There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam***8217;s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society.

    Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries. Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.

    None of the British Muslims convicted following the riots in Bradford and Oldham in 2001 or any of those linked to the London bombings had been to Islamic schools. An American Think Tank studied the educational back ground of 300 Jihadists; none of them were educated in Pakistani Madrasas. They were all Western educated by non-Muslim teachers. Bilingual Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. A Cambridge University study found that single-sex classes could make a big difference for boys. They perform better in single-sex classes. The research is promising because male students in the study saw noticeable gains in the grades. The study confirms the Islamic notion that academic achievement is better in single-sex classes.

    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
    Last edited by JoK; 19 March, 2011, 20:13.
  • C64
    V.I.P. Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 2394

    #2
    If it were up to me I'd do away with ALL religious schools, why divide and segregate kids?

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    • manxspud
      DK Veteran
      • Jul 2009
      • 1768

      #3
      This is probably a really interesting post ...

      however due to it been in black text ... its just to hard to read.

      @manx

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      • C64
        V.I.P. Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 2394

        #4
        Originally posted by manxspud
        This is probably a really interesting post ...

        however due to it been in black text ... its just to hard to read.

        @manx
        I'm on the charcoal skin, it's murder trying to read that.

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        • patkins
          V.I.P. Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 3662

          #5
          There is a lot of debate around at the moment about these 'factorys' and the fact that the answer is on the back page in case you can't figure the question-making it far to easy, and along with calculators, there is not challenge to the kids to work it out for themselves.
          They are taught by rote which makes it all the more boring for the slow learner and far too much emphasis is put on all of these new categories of childrens ability to learn.
          This may just be suiting the teachers rather than educating the child.

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          • C64
            V.I.P. Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 2394

            #6
            Originally posted by pat kinsella
            There is a lot of debate around at the moment about these 'factorys' and the fact that the answer is on the back page in case you can't figure the question-making it far to easy, and along with calculators, there is not challenge to the kids to work it out for themselves.
            They are taught by rote which makes it all the more boring for the slow learner and far too much emphasis is put on all of these new categories of childrens ability to learn.
            This may just be suiting the teachers rather than educating the child.
            That's not his point Pat.

            He's saying that Muslim kids do better if they are educated away from Christian kids and stick to same sex classes.

            It's a spam post anyway, we'll probably never see him again.

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            • Kalipo
              DK Veteran
              • Mar 2008
              • 1687

              #7
              Not reading that pal ..
              ich bin stolz ein deutscher zu sein.

              Meathead Lufter Verein - iScheitern

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              • the man
                DK Veteran
                • Jun 2010
                • 1660

                #8
                Originally posted by manxspud
                This is probably a really interesting post ...

                however due to it been in black text ... its just to hard to read.

                @manx
                put it in a way much better than i would had.

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                • Canker_Canison
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 3904

                  #9
                  I read it as 'one more step closer to a Muslim State'

                  We want our own schools, we want our own communities, we want our own way of life, we want our own laws...We want this land to be ours....

                  You cannot teach tolerance, you can only guide people into adopting a more passive aproach to other cultures. You cannot force people to be tolerant.

                  The sooner religion is religated back to the middle ages where it belongs, the better.

                  I don't need a mouldy old book & ancient ramblings to tell me what's right & wrong, or how to live my life. It's because I have my own self belief that I'm not an easy target for the more extreme teachings in the world.

                  If Muslims continue to insist on a religeon based education there will always be factions of that faith waiting to take advantage.

                  As far as seperating the sexes goes... The suppression of womens freedom & rights will always be present as long as single sex classes continues.
                  Canker

                  "Animal, vegetable or mineral... I'll do anything, to anything, with anything"
                  - The Baby Eating Bishop of Bath & Wells
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                  • Meat-Head
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 32000

                    #10
                    *CONFUSED* JUST Control A, highlight all, or cut and paste into word, then close after you have read it.

                    Can't see the point of the religious programming - just men who wear tea towels on their heads, do not have poorly heads is enough programming for anybody of anything.

                    Maths and Inglish, sciencse spelling is better taught in skool.

                    know several folks who are badly programmed say "free" not three and "firteen" not thirteen etc

                    sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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                    • Ifti
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 4

                      #11
                      I am concerned with the education of Muslim schildren in British schoolings who have been mis-educated and de-educated for the last 50 years.

                      There is no evidence to suggest that religious schools encourage separation within communities, according to Professor Gary Bouma of Monash university. Some people feel its very important that children raised in an environment thats friendly and accepting of their religious beliefs. They are not going to get that at a state school.

                      Bilingual Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. This is noting to do with segregation or integration.

                      Muslim community with Masajid and school are not going to harm your culture and language. I would like to see Muslim children learning standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. The problem is that they learn English in the streets and in the playgrounds. British schooling does not teach English to migrant children. The teachers let them speak the same accent in the classroom. They have no courage to stop them or correct them. This is one of the main reasons why one third of children have difficulties with reading when they leave primary schools. Majority of such children are bilingual Muslims. They often speak "street" with its own grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation. In other European countries and in the sub-continent argot and slang are not allowed into the classrooms. In Britain primary school teachers do not feel that it's role to interfere with self-expression in any shape or form. They encourage children to read poems and stories written in ethnic dialects.

                      At the same time I would like to see them learning Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry.

                      The second generation of Muslim migrants is facing a huge challenge because they did not think even for a second before that someone would say, 'You are not welcome. Native Brits feel that their culture and language is superior and every Tom and Harry must learn English and forget their own languages, cultures, literatures and poetry.

                      Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremists because they have been mis-educated and de-educated by the state schools with monolingual non-Muslim teachers. They find themselves cut off from their cultural roots. They do not know where they belong. They are unable to enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. Pakistani youths suffer more than other Muslim youths. Majority of them leave schools with low grades. Majority of them are in prison.

                      British schooling is the home of institutional racism and British teachers are chicken racist. Muslim children have been vicitm of Paki-bashing for the last 50 years by the majority of native children. Now those schools where Muslim children are in majority, they are doing the same what the native children have been doing in the past.

                      The solution is that such schools where Muslim children are in majority may be opted out as Muslim Academies. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. Bilingual Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods.

                      Muslim schools promote tolerance and harmony between different cultural and religious traditions. They develop self-confidence and self-esteem in Muslim children because they educate them according to their needs and demands.

                      A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village, he/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit.
                      IA
                      http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

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                      • Bulld0g
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 7158

                        #12
                        Maybe someone who wants to create a culture within a culture isn't happy with that culture and should seek somewhere else where they might be happier and live within that culture without feeling the need to change it.

                        THE TRUTH
                        The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12

                        Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
                        The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.

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                        • Meat-Head
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 32000

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bulld0g
                          Maybe someone who wants to create a culture within a culture isn't happy with that culture and should seek somewhere else where they might be happier and live within that culture without feeling the need to change it.
                          Huh! Is that a polite way of saying "get your downloads and move on"?

                          sigpicWas Banned For Being Certifiably Insane and Stupid

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                          • C64
                            V.I.P. Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 2394

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ifti
                            There is no evidence to suggest that religious schools encourage separation within communities,
                            That's bollox for a start.

                            Come up to Scotland and see all the after school fighting between the Catholic and Protestant schools. I went to a Catholic school and I didn't have a single non catholic friend as a child.

                            Religious schools should be abolished imo.

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                            • Kalipo
                              DK Veteran
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1687

                              #15
                              Originally posted by witchy
                              That's bollox for a start.

                              Come up to Scotland and see all the after school fighting between the Catholic and Protestant schools. I went to a Catholic school and I didn't have a single non catholic friend as a child.

                              Religious schools should be abolished imo.
                              Never thought i'd agree with you but i am.

                              Our council is building new schools.. re-creating segregated schools.. and super schools.. its all going the wrong way.
                              ich bin stolz ein deutscher zu sein.

                              Meathead Lufter Verein - iScheitern

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