Noob help - R4-III Upgrade - Don't think it's working right :(

[NeilF]

I'm new to R4's.

The box has "R4-III Upgrade" on it. The card has the web address www.r4iiisdhc.com on it.

I downloaded the 3.07 and 3.04 kernals on their website and both behave as follows:-
a) On starting up, instead of getting a GUI interface as I'd expect, I just get a list of roms (.NDS) files.
b) When selecting the moonshell NDS file, it appears to load - I'm not sure what I should get - but on the bottom window it mentions for a couple of seconds it has a problem finding the 'moonshl/' folder ('has it been renamed or deleted' it says in the warning text). However, I can navigate around and play mp3 etc...

I'm very confused because I was expecting at start up to see a GUI interface along these lines. Instead I just get a simple list of .NDS (rom) files:-


And I'm also confused why I get the warning about the 'moonshl' folder? I've tried everything I can (downloading many different kernals, putting the moonshl folder in different places etc) but cannot make any progress.

I'm very confused


note: The two kernals (3.04 & 3.07) appear quite different. And also give very different background when running moonshell. 3.07 appears to have japanese language in it too?

[Jaffa]

1st of all...don;t worry about Moonshell error as its common on a lot of R4 cards and doesnt do any harm...it still works.

As for the menu....I dont have R4 iii but I know it is basically the same for menus. Are there any themes in the _system folder, there should be a themes folder and inside that 12 different folders which will change at the start of each month. The problem may be that the folders are empty and you have to put your own themes in them or it may be turned off. When R4 is on try pressing Select button and it should ask if you want auot or manual themes, just press A button everytime to choose which theme you want.

If there are no themes it is probably just default like a dstt cart and just shows a list of games.

If you need themes, the you just need to type ndsthemes into google and its the 1st link.

btw...theres a new English 3.08 version in downloads section at link below.

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads/ds/21/r4-iii-v3-08-kernel-english-3-08-606/

[NeilF]

1st of all...don;t worry about Moonshell error as its common on a lot of R4 cards and doesnt do any harm...it still works.

As for the menu....I dont have R4 iii but I know it is basically the same for menus. Are there any themes in the _system folder, there should be a themes folder and inside that 12 different folders which will change at the start of each month. The problem may be that the folders are empty and you have to put your own themes in them or it may be turned off. When R4 is on try pressing Select button and it should ask if you want auot or manual themes, just press A button everytime to choose which theme you want.

If there are no themes it is probably just default like a dstt cart and just shows a list of games.

If you need themes, the you just need to type ndsthemes into google and its the 1st link.

btw...theres a new English 3.08 version in downloads section at link below.

Digital Kaos - Downloads - R4-III v3.08 kernel (English) 3.08

1) as regards the link you've sent I can't use that as it is as it gives me a "menu?" error. I need "R4.dat" it seems.

2) As it stands I have a "_system_" folder with themes in it - I've taken from another kernal. Are these themes to show when it starts up? I certainly don't get anything nice and pretty like that! When I start up all I get is a list of files with columns of icon, name and size. (The top screen has R4, revolution for DS... and at the bottom the url to the company site.)

3) Pressing SELECT gives me a screen with DMA Mode - On, Softreset - Off, Cheat - Off. Select takes me back to my list of roms.

[Jaffa]

1) as regards the link you've sent I can't use that as it is as it gives me a "menu?" error. I need "R4.dat" it seems.

2) As it stands I have a "_system_" folder with themes in it - I've taken from another kernal. Are these themes to show when it starts up? I certainly don't get anything nice and pretty like that! When I start up all I get is a list of files with columns of icon, name and size. (The top screen has R4, revolution for DS... and at the bottom the url to the company site.)

3) Pressing SELECT gives me a screen with DMA Mode - On, Softreset - Off, Cheat - Off. Select takes me back to my list of roms.

That sounds like a dstt cart but you said it says R4 iii on the box. Has the cart got an R4 sicker on it, what colour is it ???

The file in the link in downloads section has an R4 iii.dat file in it.

[NeilF]

That sounds like a dstt cart but you said it says R4 iii on the box. Has the cart got an R4 sicker on it, what colour is it ???

The file in the link in downloads section has an R4 iii.dat file in it.

Box is as shown... and the black cart.

[Jaffa]

Ok...on the root of the micro sd card you should have.

2 folders and 3 files.

1st 2 are Folders and next 3 are files

_system_
Moonshl
_DS_MENU.DAT
_DS_MSHL.NDS
_R4__III.DAT

It must look like above, you can;t have any of the above in any folder, so if it came in an English folder they have to come out of it. Then you can put the .nds files (games) on the root of the card or create a new folder called Games and put them in there.

[NeilF]

Ok...on the root of the micro sd card you should have.

2 folders and 3 files.

1st 2 are Folders and next 3 are files

_system_
Moonshl
_DS_MENU.DAT
_DS_MSHL.NDS
_R4__III.DAT

It must look like above, you can;t have any of the above in any folder, so if it came in an English folder they have to come out of it. Then you can put the .nds files (games) on the root of the card or create a new folder called Games and put them in there.

That's basically what I have by bodging thnigs togethor - BUT the file HAS to be r4.dat.

Look at the two kernals they provide - R4 III SDHC - Revolution for DS-NDS,NDSL,CleanROM

See what's in each zip! (3.07 & 3.04).

The functionality says "- Support Skin DIY by setting background and font colors on Main Menu and Game Menu manually and automatically":-
R4 III SDHC - Revolution for DS-NDS,NDSL,CleanROM

[Jaffa]

3.04/3.07 looked totally different from 3.08.

I have looked around and still they are saying that 3.08 works. The site below is the same as your site but doesnt say sdhc on the box but it does support it. If you havent tried it yet then format the mem card and try again.

R4,R4DS-Revolution for DS-NDS,NDSL,CleanROM

Sorry m8 I am trying but really only guessing cos I have an original R4. They stopped makes them over a year ago and all the fakes came out which never really had the same support. Anything with R4 on it now is a fake but they still should work.

[NeilF]

3.04/3.07 looked totally different from 3.08.

I have looked around and still they are saying that 3.08 works. The site below is the same as your site but doesnt say sdhc on the box but it does support it. If you havent tried it yet then format the mem card and try again.

R4,R4DS-Revolution for DS-NDS,NDSL,CleanROM

Sorry m8 I am trying but really only guessing cos I have an original R4. They stopped makes them over a year ago and all the fakes came out which never really had the same support. Anything with R4 on it now is a fake but they still should work.

They don't offer an english version.

In my travels I've found an English version but as it stands it dont work as it doesn't have R4.DAT.

I believe I also tried renaming it and it gave me "ERROR" on starting...



I've email the people I bought it from who have page dedicated to it - http://www.memorybits.co.uk/r4... and I've email the contact address on the site the card lists.

[Jaffa]

They don't offer an english version.

In my travels I've found an English version but as it stands it dont work as it doesn't have R4.DAT.

I believe I also tried renaming it and it gave me "ERROR" on starting...



I've email the people I bought it from who have page dedicated to it - Memorybits.co.uk - R4 Guide... and I've email the contact address on the site the card lists.

They do have an English version, its the very top but it won;t matter anyway as its the same as the one I posted in downloads section which you tried.

[NeilF]

They do have an English version, its the very top but it won;t matter anyway as its the same as the one I posted in downloads section which you tried.

Strange... Doesn't show up in Firefox! Does in IE!

[NeilF]

So has anyone got any idea why this R4 isn't starting up straight into the normal themed GUI you seem to see on all R4s?

So here's what I get at start up...

[rossgumbrell]

Hi
Had to register as i saw you were having the same problem as me.
I got the same card as you (exactly the same) from memorybits.co.uk
Basically, the one they sell is a copy of a copy of an R4!!! Using the DSTT(?) GUI with a few minor mods to it.
You cant change skins, so forget that (yes, even though it says on the advertising/box), and you wont be able to get a GUI like the original R4 either (is a shame...).
But i have found the card to be working alright for most games, so at the end of the day it works..... just not as either one of us was hoping =(

[NeilF]

Hi
Had to register as i saw you were having the same problem as me.
I got the same card as you (exactly the same) from memorybits.co.uk
Basically, the one they sell is a copy of a copy of an R4!!! Using the DSTT(?) GUI with a few minor mods to it.
You cant change skins, so forget that (yes, even though it says on the advertising/box), and you wont be able to get a GUI like the original R4 either (is a shame...).
But i have found the card to be working alright for most games, so at the end of the day it works..... just not as either one of us was hoping =(

Well, from what I can gather, it seems better than the standard one?
1) You get a list of roms straight away, rather than have to click for them.
2) The list of roms is on the bottom screen in a more readable format.

[akuma007]

so NeilF did you manage to get it working, because i'm having the same problem now