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    The UK will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
    The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
    He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
    Ministers immediately divided up into the leave and remain camps as the campaigns got under way in earnest.
    Follow rolling reaction to the Brussels deal as UK cabinet meets
    The UK's EU vote: All you need to know
    Remain v Leave: Where Conservative ministers and MPs stand
    Home Secretary Theresa May heads the list of those who announced they will campaign to stay - but Justice Secretary Michael Gove has signed up to the leave campaign.
    London Mayor Boris Johnson, who was not at the cabinet meeting, has yet to declare where he stands.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35621079


    So he thinks he's done enough to make money for his mates if the UK stays then eh? Not that any of the who will be voting to leave understand what they're voting for, but that doesn't matter as long as those that stand to make money from leaving make the money and those that lose their jobs as a result, hey it doesn't matter.


    In the meantime while he's been deflecting attention away on that subject, the following seem to have not made headline news..... wonder why. It's as if the bad news was planned to be put out in a week when Dave was busy trying to make headlines.


    A leading child health specialist has questioned whether England's NHS 111 helpline is safe and effective for young children.
    Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health president Prof Neena Modi said the system was unfair on call handlers, who are not medically trained.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35614575


    Nearly every hospital in England is now in deficit as financial problems in the NHS threaten to spiral out of control.
    Of the 138 hospital trusts, just seven are still in surplus according to the 2015-16 third quarter accounts, which cover April to December.
    The figures also showed a total NHS trust overspend of ?2.26bn once ambulance, mental health and community services were taken into account.
    Experts said performance was deteriorating at an "alarming rate".


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35608992


    More than 1,000 NHS patients in England in the past four years have suffered from medical mistakes so serious they should never happen, according to analysis by the Press Association.
    The so-called never events included the case of a man who had a whole testicle removed rather than just a cyst.
    In another, a woman's fallopian tubes were taken out instead of her appendix.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35597244


    Research into "drunken mob violence" in the "shires" was ordered by the Thatcher government, previously unseen Cabinet Office files have revealed.
    Home Secretary Douglas Hurd told police to investigate the problem of the "rural rioter", noting similarities with the "football hooligan".
    In a memorandum from June 1988, Mr Hurd said police saw violent offences in rural areas as an "increasing burden".
    The files were released by the National Archives at Kew, west London,


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35610073


    A probe has been launched into claims about the Conservative Party's spending during the general election in the UKIP-contested seat of Thanet South, the Electoral Commission has said.
    The claims - made by Channel 4 - allege that some bills were wrongly declared in the party's spending returns.
    The commission said it would look at bills for two hotels in the Kent constituency.
    A Conservative spokesman said spending was all legal and "correctly recorded".
    During last year's election UKIP's Nigel Farage lost out in the race for South Thanet seat to the Conservative Party's Craig Mackinlay.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35605518


    The Chancellor faces a challenge in meeting borrowing forecasts despite a bumper surplus in January, experts say.
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the January public finances surplus, excluding banks, rose by ?1bn to ?11.2bn.
    That was the largest surplus for any January since 2008, but below the ?12.6bn forecast by economists.
    The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) said "considerable uncertainty" remained for the rest of the year.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35610979


    Millions of people in England and Wales face a large rise in fees payable after death, to raise an extra ?250m for the courts service.
    The Ministry of Justice wants an increase in probate fees to as much as ?20,000 for those with the biggest estates.
    At the moment such fees are fixed at either ?155 or ?215.
    The proposed increase has been criticised as "astronomical" by a partner of a London law firm.
    Grant of probate gives executors the right to distribute the proceeds of someone's will.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35612264
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    In relation to the NHS problems instead of blaming it on the elderly living longer when is someone going to have the balls to say that over 2 Million EU migrants plus the hundreds of thousands of other migrants that had never previously paid a penny towards the NHS is the biggest cause of the problem !!!

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    Or the government haven't funded the reciprocal arrangements correctly, and certainly haven't taken into account EU workers coming to the uk and paying taxes, which entitles them to NHS treatment. After all the money for the NHS should take that into account, the government take the tax, and probably doesn't bother to use it for extra funding. As for other foreign nationals, again there processes in place to charge them directly. So at the end of the day, any shortfall due to EU workers is down to government underfunding, and for those from outside the EU is down to financial mismanagement.


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    seen it on some report there is now 2,000,000 migrants working in the uk.
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    Come back in the morning unless you're dying: Patients in north London hospital told to go home as doctors couldn't see all 450 that arrived in A&E that day

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ved-E-day.html

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    Dont mind the imports under going energency repairs

    but take that gurl the 15 year one that shot in the head
    comes here for repaurs, stays imports her family
    goes to uk skool, then moaned abiut something
    ungrateful bitch, those who missed with the bullet need an invoice
    to cover the uks costs.

    rumir stares orginalky was for trading none ifvthis ruled by brussels.

    why not have referendan to dissolve europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmb45 View Post
    seen it on some report there is now 2,000,000 migrants working in the uk.
    All paying tax towards the country then. So has the government increased the budget it provides to the NHS and local services by 3% to take the extra load into account or have they, as usual, used the money elsewhere, say on duck islands for the moats around their houses. You can't blame EU workers (who are paying tax) for government incompetence can you. Still it suits the government to blame someone else for all the problems they either cause or fail to address.

    "Come back in the morning unless you're dying: Patients in north London hospital told to go home as doctors couldn't see all 450 that arrived in A&E that day"

    and yet the government doesn't employ more doctors, it just wants to make them work longer.

    Funny little leader of a right wing party did that in the 1930's, blamed everyone else for the inability of his government to address comestic problems, so decided to attack other countries instead to deflect from the issues that they should have been addressing. Always seems to be right wing parties doesn't it...
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    i'm voting oot cba we all the pish now ffs and i dun just mean the immigration we pay more to europe than to our own people so mr eu
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    ive added a poll, will be interesting to see how dk members vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elplicko View Post
    we pay more to europe than to our own people so mr eu
    One of those, as usual, statements with no substance I see. Government revenue from taxation in 2013 - ?612bn, I doubt very much that we pay them more than ?612bn, unless you have the receipts?
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    and the total cost of leaving in terms of jobs/cash is what?
    The practicalities are that the 2 million EU workers who are already here cannot be kicked out and as such will become residents in the UK anyway, so will continue to pay into teh tax system and "take money" out of the system by their use of council services, government services, NHS and so on. That won't change. So if teh government haven't increased the funds to take that into account already; then assume they won't in future and that the current state of the NHS will continue with it having to treat those 2 million, councils will still have to cater for them, without funding from the government which should have been allocated and hasn't been. So even when not being in the EU the underfunding, and waste in some cases, will continue.

    Meanwhile, while the media is only headlining the EU joke vote these nice bits are being missed,

    Thousands of workers who have been encouraged by the government to take out pension plans could be at risk of losing their savings, the industry regulator has told the BBC.
    It follows fears that dozens of companies providing auto enrolment pensions are too small to survive.
    The BBC has also uncovered evidence that employers and workers are being deliberately misled by some providers.
    The government said it was aware of the issue, and was planning to take action.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35560788

    So they know people are likely to lose their money, but will continue to let them pay into it, rather than putting it on hold. After all it's not MP's money is it.

    The health secretary "misrepresented" data to put his case for a seven-day NHS in England, says Jeremy Corbyn.
    The Labour leader attacked Jeremy Hunt after the BBC revealed the health secretary used academically unverified and unpublished data to back his plans.
    Last July, in the pay row with junior doctors, Mr Hunt said there were about 6,000 deaths a year because of the lack of "a proper seven-day service".
    But this assertion was later questioned by academics.
    Emails show one of the author's of the unpublished paper, which Mr Hunt was using to justify the 6,000 figure, was unhappy with how his study was being used.
    A spokesman said the information had been shared with the department by the NHS's medical director for England, Sir Bruce Keogh.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35597243

    Good old Jeremy ?unt eh, a true MP if ever there was one.


    Ministers should "apologise" to junior doctors and row back on imposing a new contract in England, the government's former patient safety adviser says.
    Prof Don Berwick, who led a review for government on safety three years ago, said there should be a three-year moratorium on the new contract.
    He said the NHS had a "demoralised" workforce and needed to find another way out of the "mess".
    Ministers have said the new contract is needed to improve safety at weekends.
    But Prof Berwick cast doubt on that by saying it may be "impossible" for the NHS to tackle the issue given the current level of funding, the HSJ reports.
    Speaking at an event in London at the King's Fund think-tank, Prof Berwick said: "You cannot achieve excellence in combat with your future workforce, it makes no sense at all.
    "So you need to find a way to de-escalate... I think the government should apologise."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35641695

    Goold old Mr ?unt eh


    Students who achieve a B in A-level maths today would only have secured an E in the 1960s, suggests research.
    However standards have been stable since the 1990s, with no evidence of any further fall since then, says the Loughborough University paper.
    The researchers compared the level of mathematical knowledge needed to tackle today's maths A-level papers with those from the 1960s and 1990s.
    The government said its reforms would help tackle grade inflation in England.
    The authors say their work, published in the British Educational Research Journal amounts to one of the most comprehensive studies into A-level standards.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35632198

    Always good to see that he government are ensuring that those things they are responsible are not being reported as headline ..... while the fake vote grabs the headlines
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmb45 View Post
    a big + for the oots atm
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    "Looks like currant votes indicate leaving the EU"

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