mvp Key programmer vs MVP pro M8

[kubuswujo]

Hi!!

I want to buy an MVP (or any other tool) to make Key in Opel Astra III 2007 and Opel Insygnia 2011. And the most cars in the future.

But what is the diferences between
MVP KEY PROGRAMMER: 200$
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016...7-3fdadf913bc3


and MVP M8 PRO: 2 800$
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016...7-3fdadf913bc3

Does MVP M8 make much more almost everything?
Is MVP 200$ Shit?

For cars <2013??


Will You recomand any other Key programmer?
Tango?
AC?


to make the most cars and does not cost 3000$?


What to buy for doing OPEL, VW, AUDI?


Thanks in advance,
Kuba

[clintezra]

Be prepared for the longest awnser of your life....

BUT!.... The Key M8 is a clone Of a "MVP PRO" its is the MVP PRO of 2013 roughly... it can do many cars of different types and is pretty simple to use but cost tokens!
Very good machine I hear...

The MVP you have link to.. this is the machine that "Advanced diagnostics (the manufacture) made year and years ago!
Again it was cloned in china, and as soon as it was cloned, they stopped developing it and dropped it! and released the MVP pro...
The MVP Pro has been cloned and the clone is a KEy M8... so I feel the "MVP pro may be dropped and redeveloped soon,

IEA had a machine, called zed bull it was cloned... they dropped it! they brought out the Zed Full
Silca had a machine, (SBB) it was cloned, so they dropped it! but haven't released another (SILCA are owned by Advanced diagnostics now I believe)

Its a cycle of original manufacturers being chased by the Chinese,
if the Chinese copy it too soon it doesnt pay for the original manufacturers so they wont make another machine!
the backside of this... if it costs ?15 a token then the Chinese cloners will do very well...
AD are currently at ?5 a token!

Is anybody aware of the ZED FULL being cloned yet!
or Advanced diagnostics brining out a new machine!

what will be next!

Also the cars you are looking at (Astra H and Insignia B) both need key codes which cant be pulled
by the machines asked about here... so you will need dealer codes.

Audi and VW is very hit and miss with Key M8 or MVP PRO

the above MVP in the the link... rubbish!

Tango is complaeteley diffrent so no good,
please tell us your background, intentions and what you are planning!!!

[kubuswujo]

Thank You very very much for a long answer!!!

So You would not advice to buy any of cloned devices?

My intension is:
I am doing now km correction, airbag crash repair, elektronic diagnostic in vehicles, (try to learn chiptunnig also and looking for a good course), and want to have an oportunity to do add a Keys in autos.
I have to clients (friends) which still asking about making second Key. (ASTRA H and INSYGNIA). So them want t od oat first. But also have other people how just asked me about making new Key to vehicle.

so i think that I can spend some money to buy interfaces which would do it. But I am confused what to buy.... Have heard only about MVP, TANGO, ZED BULL,AC, X100.


AS i have heared the Insygnia key i can make from BCM file/dump on ID46W emulator or ad from file the normal ID46. Or Just have a PIN and ad it with OPCOM.
AM I right? So what interfaces do I need for it?



Thank
Kuba

[clintezra]

Ok you won't need just a programmer
you would need a key cutter
the key cutter needs to be powered...
you will have to have a garage or a slave battery. And investor
you will need a key stock
you will need knowledge of transponders and blades and remotes and
You will need I understand that there will be small mistakes with killed remotes
and wasted blades ect

well at this point you have think if it's worth it!
You have two cars lined up but your looking at a big imput!
For not much gain!

[kubuswujo]

Hey!
I do have a garage, the Key cutter have my friend and i can cut the blades there.
The knowladge is always needed and i now that i have llack in this point, thats why I am asking.
I know that i have to invest many and wan't to analise if it worth it, or not. Including time to learn, mistakes, and money.
I have to cars and was wondering beacouse if i charge them 80 Euro for key and i can buy CLone to do it for sth like 500 Euro. |
Then if I make ten times Key then i have my money back.

But as I see for 500 Euro I cannot buy any good clone.

[Automat]

Looks like a good token price sale going on, stock up!

http://www.keyprom8.com/wholesale/th...pro-m8-tokens/