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    Default golf 5 tdi 1.9 random no glow plug light no engine lamp no start

    I have golf 5 , tdi 2005 1.9 diesel. crank ok but No start when no glow plug light, and no engine lamp. After few homes closing and opening the key randomly if the both light comes in the dash ,the car can start normally without problem. I almost check all the ground and power in ecu and i could not find any problem. I have 4 relay in engine fuse box . 2 ? 453 and two 433 in engine bay +1 glow plug relay. Inside the car i have 66 relays. And i almost check all the relay 1 number 53 and one 460 and a four small relay.
    I almost spend more than 12 hour. And still stocking with this car.... please help me.
    I know most of the case same situation like j371, but I can not find and actually I doubt about having j371 in this model

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    Have you checked wiring loom beside starter motor.

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    not yet I will do that now and will tell you the result

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    Have you done a full diagnostic scan? See if any faults?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf786 View Post
    Have you done a full diagnostic scan? See if any faults?
    yes I did.
    I know most of the case same situation like j371, but I can not find and actually I doubt about having j371 in this model ( actualy I short out all the relayes manually.)
    I can connect with the ecu with my scan tool. I dont get any number in No mil ( engine check light ) Iresponse and the fault code is :
    Relay for Supply Voltage Terminal 30 (J317)
    P1601 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal

    (all input and outputs seems ok on j317)
    but I have no inout of 85 , 86 On j757 relay. I dont know what exactly it supplies to . but I get no difference by shorting the output to 12 v . Or even when I get the MiL light on and I can start the car, This relay still has no input inside.
    Since everything sounds ok , my last doubt is about self-diagnostic module. I really dont know how does it work ...
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    probably you will need other ecu

 

 

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