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    Default Smart 450 key sync

    Hi. Maybe anyone give a tip.
    Got smart.
    Owner sais after flat batery no start. In cluster key blink.
    When got car no frequency from key. Replaced battery resolder buttons. Signal ok.

    Trying with fvdi
    Turn ignition on. Conect to sam,turn off,Push lock 2 times. Switch on and push ok on soft. Got messge succesfull
    . But remote still not work and no start.
    In diag error
    B1030 immobiliser counter overflow or no can communication.
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    Also noticed that central locking from button on console not work. And there is aftermarket central locking instaled
    Hazzard work only when ignition is on. When key out,not work

    I tried few more tools. It determines vin and that 0 keys programmed.
    When procedure sais turn ignition off before press butyon twrice i get no communication error. I i try program not turn ign off its just gies thrue and sais programming ok. But still 0 keys
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    I used Delphi 2014 on these. 100%
    Also immo problem after battery change.
    Failed with skp900.

    The remote is stored in the sam or zee.
    Could you put this unit in a different car, to see if matching goes well.

    There a 2different 450 systems, these Keys look different.
    Last edited by rob h; 17th August, 2018 at 09:11 AM.

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    No no other car to test.

    Dont have delphi. Autel not have key add option
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    When you start with initialization... the red point starts to flashing or not...?
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    No its solid red when ignition is off. And no light when ignition is on.if later push on central butyon its always stays solid no matter ign on or off.
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    Ant that button with arrows led is always on when key out. I think maybe problem with sam. As i know 100% fvdi do this car.
    And suspect when soft sais turn ignition off it lost communication with sam. Fvdi not show this but other tools sais fail communication when next step is push button twice after key off.
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    Don't be angry with me... But you work with FVDi 2014...or 2015...?

    2015 don't do it...
    In any case have sometimes problems, when I first ot delete all dtc's...

    But you're also right... Water damages on SAM... Is standard...

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    I have v2015 2018 fly. Tried older and newer soft.
    Ive tried delete dtc buy that b1030 error is currect cant delete.
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    try to open sam and take look if it´s water damaged... B1030 it´s also possbible can bus fault between dash and sam... just check it...

    in any case can give you other flash/eeprom when you send me label...

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    I tested all my tools. Now will wait next week will try with mb star. If that not work than problem is in car.

    Say if change new sam need to code it to car match ecu etc?
    From outside on sam ,firewall or carpets dint see not singe sign of water marks
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    no, friend just built in other sam unit...
    give ignition...
    just make the same, as your are doing with a new key...
    everything done...
    for kilometers other story...
    Smart Forever...

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    I use mb star to do sync.
    Menu sam> immobilizer> teach again
    Quote Originally Posted by drugowaz View Post
    I tested all my tools. Now will wait next week will try with mb star. If that not work than problem is in car.

    Say if change new sam need to code it to car match ecu etc?
    From outside on sam ,firewall or carpets dint see not singe sign of water marks
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