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    Hi all, I'm looking to get something to cover Mercedes keys and I'm drawn to Zedfull over VVDI. Can someone tell me if the Zedfull Mercedes programmer can program the cheaper chinese xhorse nec/bga keys or would I have to buy the more expensive zedfull ones? Also am I making the right choice at all with Zedfull or should I go with VVDI?

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    Diagspeed is your best option for Mercedes there newest programmer is being released soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray-ray View Post
    Diagspeed is your best option for Mercedes there newest programmer is being released soon.
    HI,
    what will the newest programmer cover ? all the old options + something new ? or just some new hardware they have designed... more stable reliable.


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    All key lost for ALL models..including early 164......new hardware with capability to support UDS for FBS4 in the next update , much better protection so Chinese tools will never again be able to copy same functions.......... Looking forward new toy.
    Guided fault finding = Feature that many factory scan-tools have and real technician despise it.

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    Diagspeed repairs the damage that the VVDI tool does to certain Mercedes. Roy keep up the good work.

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    Ive never heard vvdi mb did any damage in mb. Its problem who use it.
    Other thing,tool do or not do certain function.
    What about hacking. Its just matter of time.
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    HI,
    "All Keys Lost, including early 164", if such a solution is provided then the next day everyone will do update saying we can do early w164/221.
    Solution for w164/221 is available but EZS has to be sent to workshop (one of the best protections ), protection of your hardware is one thing but communication with ezs, esl etc... is something else you can not protect this part it is as it is(MB developers).
    I have also heard but never experienced that AA flag from esl can be cleaned via Kline commands (no need to bruteforce the IC), this solution isn't released because it would be so "easy" to copy it.
    About FBS4 at the moment it is science fiction for most of them (lets say in some early stage).
    Thumbs up for all developers out there.

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    I personally dont think any big news will come with the new diagspeed hardware, its more like a refresh and speeding up and of course compability with new stuff that has still to be developed till the end and relased. The same did also mercedesinstrument.

    Regards W204 Kline AA flag removal, it is posible and takes a few seconds i assure you that. But the guys who can do it paid a big pile of money to get the original firmware for the esl, they didnt hack or developed by themselfes, and you are 100% correct it would be cloned in no time

    FBS4 will be very very hard, i think they will find a way... only unknown factor is time...

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    same as they paided for the original firmware for the esl i think they gonna pay also for FBS4.
    most of the time you get 2 a 3 developer who put money together and pay for it.
    then the rest copy from them or pay them to have copy of the software/firmware.

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    FBS 4 is done! all left is building a server to handle the calculations. New diagspeed will do amazona 164/221. Sprinters all obd and old ML obd. you can crack the hardware the magic is on the server to slow down cloaning.

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    Can you confirm that? Not server part, but FBS4 part? Because I believe old customers will be notified by email before someone write it on public forum.
    Guided fault finding = Feature that many factory scan-tools have and real technician despise it.

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    @gkinz
    I saw you post about FBS4 and did search something about future tense this is what came out
    future tenses:
    a tense expressing an action that has not yet happened or a state that does not yet exist (excluding FBS4 developers).
    Then I found this Zager And Evans - In The Year 2525.
    I would like to say this: -we hardly scratched FBS3 and yet you want to eat FSB4, remember this "New diagspeed will do amazona 164/221", these are from 2007 till 2009 ten or more years old, FSB4 is a few years old so this will lead to the above link.

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