Autotuner vs Magic x17

**Lucy1994** · 3rd November, 2018, 10:03 PM

I greet you. Does anyone have the Autotuner or Magic x17 tool? opinion for or against? which is more stable and what recommendations do you have? it's interesting to autotuner free updates, free subscriptions. I'm waiting for your answers

**chli1976** · 4th November, 2018, 10:29 AM

I have buyed Autotuner, but should get the tool next weeks.
I think x17 covers more vehicles, but autotuner should be faster and have no subscriptions and there was a -25% action

heteromies · 4th November, 2018, 10:33 AM

x17 covers a lot more ECU's. There is coming also FLEX- interface for x17, that replace interface what using now. So i believe tool is after better and faster than ever before. Interface update cost 200 eur to tool owner. Available about two month from this.

**b44ly** · 4th November, 2018, 11:15 AM

please share -25% as i look to buy, or if anyo ecan get good deal on behalf, would be good to hear.

**chli1976** · 4th November, 2018, 12:24 PM

The -25% action is over

**Lucy1994** · 4th November, 2018, 01:18 PM

so in your opinion magic x17 is ok? I understand that the autotuner is more stable ... the autotuner cost 5833 euros with VAT and transport

**voltechcar** · 4th November, 2018, 04:42 PM

and what car you have in autotuner? maybe 10% list from kess and 20% cars from X17. People buy him because not have subscription not bacuase he do more than other.

**rh03** · 4th November, 2018, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by voltechcar

and what car you have in autotuner? maybe 10% list from kess and 20% cars from X17. People buy him because not have subscription not bacuase he do more than other.

"not because he do more than other" for older cars, kess is good and better, but for new cars autotuner literally crush kess, new protocols every weeks, md1/mg1 bmw and ford, big cover of tricore by obd, hitachi/valéo cover of french cars by obd etc....

Also you can't compare autotuner stability with x17...

**Lucy1994** · 4th November, 2018, 09:24 PM

I am interested in something stable that will take away the idea of writing failure as long as possible. I'm especially interested in the bmw F series and Vag 2010 models -> .... the prices are roughly equal, but I do not know exactly what to choose

**rh03** · 4th November, 2018, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Lucy1994

I am interested in something stable that will take away the idea of writing failure as long as possible. I'm especially interested in the bmw F series and Vag 2010 models -> .... the prices are roughly equal, but I do not know exactly what to choose

If you have money and want do 99% of cars, you should have kess/ktag/autotuner

if you want cheaper, kess/ktag or kess/autotuner, it depends what cars you do.

**LaenenB** · 5th November, 2018, 12:13 AM

Why do you chose ktag above mms ?

**Lucy1994** · 5th November, 2018, 09:34 AM

I have kess ktag 2.23 2.46 eu clone, fgtech, mpps etc and i want genuine tool with online update and r/w obd for new cars

**Myjector** · 6th November, 2018, 08:45 AM

I have them both, Autotuner is really fast and good for New generation BMW F and E series.
Also for Ford and Boot protocols
X17 supports a lot more for now, but i only use for brands autotuner does not support.
But it depends on the cars you work, old crap i don't tune.
BMW, Ford, Volvo en Mercedes all work fine with autotuner.
If you have a clone tool you can use Ktag for older cars to be safe.
Try to flash EDC17C41 with original Kess.... compare it with Autotuner.
If i was you, start with Autotuner.
Work with Ktag for older cars

**Lucy1994** · 7th November, 2018, 01:04 PM

I understand that it works very well on the bmw series E F G and the read / write speed is very good. I work in parallel with clones kess ktag fgtech v54 0475 and mpps. I opt to x17 that I found to buy without paying you and shipping. the idea is that it completes magically with the other instruments. and I heard that magic would soon release the flex version that will start at $ 10000 and who bought the Pro2 version can make the flex update with 200 € ... I think I remain at the magic, seems promising

heteromies · 7th November, 2018, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Lucy1994

I understand that it works very well on the bmw series E F G and the read / write speed is very good. I work in parallel with clones kess ktag fgtech v54 0475 and mpps. I opt to x17 that I found to buy without paying you and shipping. the idea is that it completes magically with the other instruments. and I heard that magic would soon release the flex version that will start at $ 10000 and who bought the Pro2 version can make the flex update with 200 € ... I think I remain at the magic, seems promising

Yes, this is just for start what coming in future from x17