Nissan Qashqai / X-Trail / Rogue Smart Key - BCM's That Are Dangerous

[joker01]

I reread the whole post......they called me about a j11 akl.....I have some doubts.....how do I check the steering lock without a working key???? it fits when the door is opened/closed driver???

[autoTkey]

When AKL it does not matter much - they will have to change the electronics inside the car anyway. You just will give them a small hope that it could work out without replacing the modules.

[didi_du_93000]

For me Nissan dealer have changed bcm and esl.
Car always don't start.
They say me impossible to finish the coding of the bcm.
Some problem on car affect the programing/coding.

[didi_du_93000]

With new bcm and elv I have this Dtc.

B27DD-00 BCM - ID INCOMP V/V

Remote don't work. I can make ign On but no crank.

[joker01]

"steering not completely locked" means that the operation must be checked and that it is free to lock and unlock correctly???
during the procedure however the steering wheel and therefore the steering lock must be locked right???

[Spiritech]

"steering not completely locked" means that the operation must be checked and that it is free to lock and unlock correctly???
during the procedure however the steering wheel and therefore the steering lock must be locked right???

Steering must be completely locked at the start of the procedure, but you also must ensure it doesn't have excessive pressure on it from the wheel so it can retract during the learning of key #1. If you are doing a spare key always check for a reliable steering lock function.

[fred77]

When AKL it does not matter much - they will have to change the electronics inside the car anyway. You just will give them a small hope that it could work out without replacing the modules.

true, worth getting customer to sign something otherwise be round your house knocking down door!

especially as these car are getting older now folk won't wanta pay and instead start blame game

[vov4ik]

Reading through those horror stories I tend to stick to @Spiritech on this. Just made a spare key for 2016 Rogue with 284B1-4CE1A, the keydiy fob I paired was defective (one button did not function) so made an autel fob, learned both times with no issues or consequences. The only issues I've faced so far is having an aftermarket remote-starter installed which is tapped into the wiring and hinders learning, so have to actually check if car starts with no battery in the key by tap (or slot for older vehicles), and I tend to let it run for 3-5 min just to top off the battery and avoid using battery support. AKL cars usually do need battery support and lithium booster provides for enough time to finish the job.
Scarry to read though. Having a limited-liability document to sign for those cars is a good idea though.

[fred77]

Reading through those horror stories I tend to stick to @Spiritech on this. Just made a spare key for 2016 Rogue with 284B1-4CE1A, the keydiy fob I paired was defective (one button did not function) so made an autel fob, learned both times with no issues or consequences. The only issues I've faced so far is having an aftermarket remote-starter installed which is tapped into the wiring and hinders learning, so have to actually check if car starts with no battery in the key by tap (or slot for older vehicles), and I tend to let it run for 3-5 min just to top off the battery and avoid using battery support. AKL cars usually do need battery support and lithium booster provides for enough time to finish the job.
Scarry to read though. Having a limited-liability document to sign for those cars is a good idea though.

You need >13V ideally

If your lithium booster is like mine it also switches so doesn't provide a stable voltage and has a tendency to suddenly stop.
Ie there purpose is to start the car.

Saying that we've all thrown the booster on for speed -


yeah document warning customer and handling such fails may make situation a little easier

[vov4ik]

You need >13V ideally

If your lithium booster is like mine it also switches so doesn't provide a stable voltage and has a tendency to suddenly stop.
Ie there purpose is to start the car.

Saying that we've all thrown the booster on for speed -


yeah document warning customer and handling such fails may make situation a little easier

I use Noco GB70 in forced mode, it provides for 10-15 minutes or so when fully charged. It saves time. Works good on most, except some German and English vehicles. Those actually need 13.5-14v for 20 min or more and drain up to 70amps with ignition on.

We do have a document to sign prior for those cases for a week now, provides for peace of mind.


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[Ecuprog31]

Hello
is there any problem with Nissan Micra 2021 remote flip key adding ?( not keyless )

[newone]

problem only with keyless

[didi_du_93000]

Is it possible Nissan dealer have make shit on my car?

They have changed bcm and esl and car always don't start.

I have always error from esl Id.

All part is original and programed is Nissan shop.

[p1et]

Maybe it's not enough. I read many times need BCM, ELV and ECU. Well all this is so fcked up. Because I know some stories when only BCM was enough. Stupid Nissan

[didi_du_93000]

Maybe it's not enough. I read many times need BCM, ELV and ECU. Well all this is so fcked up. Because I know some stories when only BCM was enough. Stupid Nissan

I think 'Nissan don't know what they make.
If I can learn myself bcm and keys without risk I don't talk this shit of dealer.