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selvica
15th January, 2023, 10:55 AM
hi there i just want it to share stage 1 eco tuned in Switzerland its from Passat 3c DSG EDC17CP14 dayily driving

Lambda1
15th January, 2023, 11:28 AM
Just a random %-tune... nearly 500nm (stock ~410Nm) request by dw but tq limiter ~410Nm ...
Pretty sure they dont calc it. Also it got a bit more tq (nonsense to do ~40nm at 1000rpm... thats stress all car parts...) but wont do really more hp then stock.
Boost also just 7-8%... to much.
But the good fact... they dont mess up the protection maps like you often see.

selvica
15th January, 2023, 11:57 AM
WHAT A ~~~~ING LOOSER YOU ARE ... .. did you test the car, how can you talk bullshit saying that the car it runs like a stock when you have not tested the car ...

Lambda1
15th January, 2023, 12:04 PM
You really a sunshine mate.
Just some easy calculations needen for (the same you would need to do a proper tune) ... to prove... also you forget about several maps, better study the EDC17 FR more :).
Here in picture so maybe you understand...
Most tq requested in tq limiter in 1750-2500rpm (nonsense to use so much higher values in dw as you did)... thats well for ECO because most used range... but most power will create in 3750-4000rpm... I dont think you want to run there for ECO Tune. Also you could use interpolation with factors in Ols to smooth it more.
Also you dont think about the internal friction torque model and the real torque at crankshaft, intitial torque...
Its just a % tune and nothing to do with a calculated tune (and far away from a perfect tune), missed some stuff and the relavant part about the tq model - which you need to do for a basic before logging. So at the end its a messed up TQ Model, Calulcation for the ecu and nothing to do with a "perfect stage 1" if you mess up the interal tq model.

Boost... you add ~ 7-8% (some spots a bit more... but unessecary atm).
To run the whished lambda of ~1,28-1,3 for a eco tune... (lambda target) and injection quantity ... simple calc needen... for the rough 410Nm you "calced" you will need ~70mg/str injection...
Some calcuation again will show... ~1,65bar is needen to reach this. Now have a look into your maps... your ~200mbar more didnt fit this calcualted value. Also lambda maps dont touched.
To run the manufactur given Lambda, Injection... the stock boost map is totally fine.
Its just stress the turbo with overboost... also if you mod this ecus, engines often and also do logs with messurement equipment you will see EGT:.. is totally with ~70mg/strk because lambda will fits.

For the rest like axies... I dont want to use more time to talk about... get proper lecture and function frames... study, log...
At the end of the day you act like a rottweiler but beeing a chiwawa.

Johnner
15th January, 2023, 12:18 PM
WHAT A ~~~~ING LOOSER YOU ARE ... .. did you test the car, how can you talk bullshit saying that the car it runs like a stock when you have not tested the car ...


Calm down mate. You're only getting feedback from people in the business.
If one was smart, they would looking for guidance on tuning improvements, rather than ripping into people


Just saying


J

NASTASE
15th January, 2023, 05:42 PM
WHAT A ~~~~ING LOOSER YOU ARE ... .. did you test the car, how can you talk bullshit saying that the car it runs like a stock when you have not tested the car ...
I know you from other tuning forums,as usual, rude, slum language, lack of knowledge.