Incorrect Instrument Cluster SKCs?

[ss75]

[EDIT 6.3.2023: Attached .bin files in .zip format.]

Hi all, I am asking for help in replacing instrument cluster (part number 5P0920823A) of Seat Altea XL 2007.

It seems that I have been able to read EEPROMs of both clusters (old and "new" (used one)) with VAG K+CAN Commander and extract the respective SKCs with the same tool as well.

However, the SKCs (5096 and 1409) needed for the cluster replacement are not approved by VCDS.

What have I done wrong? Are the SKCs incorrect?

I don't have a working version of the VAG EEPROM Programmer tool, but would anyone be kind and check the SKCs in the attached files? I would greatly appreciate that.

Best Regards SS

[ss75]

Hi, I attached the files in .bin format, if that helps...

SS

[Maartinj]

SCK is only support cluster till 2005 immo 4,
after 2005 is immo4C and no more possible over SCK

[ss75]

I didn't know that. What alternatives do I have to make the car running?

[Maartinj]

vist locksmith , no point to talk about tools for immo when you stop on SCk solution from 1995

[kiszka]

SCK is only support cluster till 2005 immo 4,
after 2005 is immo4C and no more possible over SCK
You are misleading people, in this year of the car it is possible but it can't be done remotely having only vcds, need VAS and correct pin read the problem is that these are crypto counters, and it is impossible to read the pin correctly with any device

[ss75]

Hi, actually it finally seems that the SKCs were correct. At least the instrument cluster adaptation succeeded (?) without error messages. However, in the key matching phase these still appears to be an error:

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer_IV_Key_Matching

...

[Adaptation - 10]
Enter 001 in "Channel Number".
[Read]

=> Channel 01 not available


What might possibly be the reason?

[ss75]

Actually, the motor starts now after adapting new (used) cluster and keys. However, some error codes and two warning lights (immobilizer and ABS/ESP) still appear.

Especially the error code 00003 in immobilizer module (25) seems weird. What should be done next?


Saturday,11,March,2023,11:05:56:01683
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 23.3.0.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4631.4
Data version: 20230228 DS346.1
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Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345


VIN: VSSZZZ5PZ7R040432 License Plate:
Mileage: 199390km-123895mi Repair Order:






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Chassis Type: 5P (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72


VIN: VSSZZZ5PZ7R040432 Mileage: 199390km-123895miles


01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-033-BGU.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 033 FH
Component: SIMOS71 1.6l 2VG 9431
Revision: --H03--- Serial number: SEZ7Z0F3525576
Coding: 0000071
Shop #: WSC 04941 785 00200
VCID: 6A8DD1E7207F806AB17-803E
VINID: 9A38EAAAA160A8788010010308D2F77893


No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 1101


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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0002801
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 73B3CC8377B541A2021-8026


3 Faults Found:
01435 - Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation


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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 5P0 820 047 L
Component: Climatic PQ35 012 0505
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 363535972447148AE5F-8062


No fault code found.


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AE HW: 3C0 937 049 AE
Component: Bordnetz-SG H52 2002
Revision: 00H52000 Serial number: 00000004559682
Coding: 098E8F2F00041000431800000000000000017F075C4000
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 6C81D7FF2A8B9E5AC3B-8038


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5P0 955 119 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer SE359 012 0402
Coding: 00056272
Shop #: WSC 06402


1 Fault Found:
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 164
Mileage: 199391 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63


Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 12.25 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF




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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T HW: 1K0 909 605 T
Component: S7 AIRBAG VW8 020 2300
Revision: 05020000 Serial number: 0038PD0VU1E$
Coding: 0021303
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 3D272ABB0171C7D2245-8068


Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME14191E5BH


Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME146606601


Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME0C12087FC


Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME0C120113V


No fault code found.


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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070
Coding: 0000042
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 74B1CF9F72BB469A1BB-8020


No fault code found.


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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 5P0 920 823 A
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VO3 0422
Coding: 0002101
Shop #: WSC 11111 111 11111
VCID: 2E051DF7DC172C4AADF-807A


No fault code found.


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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H12 0170
Revision: H12 Serial number: 3300106B098237
Coding: 3D3F034007002202
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 2F3B00F3DB1D2542A69-807A


1 Fault Found:
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 164
Mileage: 199391 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 17:38:40




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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 5P0 920 823 A
Component: IMMO VO3 0422
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 2E051DF7DC172C4AADF-807A


1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
000 - -


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 G HW: 1K0 959 793 M
Component: J386 TUER-SG FT 1131
Revision: 31008001 Serial number: 00000501369016
Coding: 0000176
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 3B2324A31F65C9E21A1-806E


No fault code found.


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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.065 H07 1806
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 34310F9F323B069ADBB-8060


2 Faults Found:
02546 - Steering Limit Stop
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 199370 km
Temperature: 7.0°C
Voltage: 12.30 V
Voltage: 12.10 V


00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:




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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0203
Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 888000005183CC7F0006050560084F01207C80
Shop #: WSC 11400 205 17342
VCID: 03539C4327157122121-8056


Subsystem 1 - Component: Sounder n.mounted


Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted


Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted


No fault code found.


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 G HW: 1K0 959 792 M
Component: J387 TUER-SG BT 1131
Revision: 31008001 Serial number: 00000042469022
Coding: 0000176
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 3C2127BF1A6BCEDA13B-8068


1 Fault Found:
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 164
Mileage: 199391 km
Time Indication: 0




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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No: 5P1 035 186 B
Component: Radio BVX 0006
Coding: 0020454
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 2F3B00F3DB1D2542A69-807A


No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 M HW: 1K0 959 795 G
Component: J388 TUER-SG HL 1114
Revision: 11005001 Serial number: 00000000843993
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 3A2D21A7105FF0EA017-806E


No fault code found.


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: None
Part No: No response
Component: Error LIN Slave 0
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2C0117FFEA0B5E5A83B-8078


No fault code found.


End----(Elapsed Time: 01:20, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.3V. VIgn 0.0V)------

[volodin69]

You should be move immo data with FVDI and all was ok. Now it looks like abs lost coding. And steering column needs to be relearned. Should have been saving abs long coding before doing the ipc swap...

[kiszka]

You should be move immo data with FVDI and all was ok. Now it looks like abs lost coding. And steering column needs to be relearned. Should have been saving abs long coding before doing the ipc swap...
What are you talking about, put on your glasses and look up at ABS