Bitbox or kt200

[Icosalo]

Hi to all..
Need opinion, bitbox (modules, tactrix and universal bench cable ) or all in one kt200?
Bitbox more expensive cause i need at least 3 modules, and supposed that one of then dont work/work sometimes, and at kt200 one ecu is not working at all for now.
Advice
Tnx
Regards

[moky]

bitbox of course ..but have 2 is good ..i have 2 bitbox never failed..

[Icosalo]

bitbox of course ..but have 2 is good ..i have 2 bitbox never failed..

Bitbox....tactrix or scanmatik? Scanmatik is way more expensive?
Disaadvantage of bitbox is worse support than kt200 and way way way more expensive?
Anybody have experience with rotax, and china extreme modules? All ok?

[moky]

tactrix for obd and scanmatik for obd and bench..

[Icosalo]

Tactrix cant do bench?

[rafal]

You are asking for tool but we don't know for what job?

[Icosalo]

You are asking for tool but we don't know for what job?

Sorry...need it to read, tune and write back canam atv map.
Ecu is bosch me17.8.5 and that is primary
Second is continental m3c

[Icosalo]

Ok, any suggestion more? Kt200 (continental works only via jtag) or bitbox (more expensive with module, but work bench, and bosch if there is no VR i must then open it and connect BSL)
Kt200 can connect many various ecus without paying more, bitbox...need pay enything else

[Aladinnu]

my opinion....take kess, ktag and other tool. kt200 have also many new ecu in list but when fails....it will cost u more than u would wish....

[VollPower]

My Bitbox Kit support all the ATV ecu 's ACTIVE PROTOCOLS : Delphi MT05.x KLine & CAN LineSupported ECU types:
Delphi MT05 based on the MCU Infineon SAK-XC164CM-16F40F with internal flash memory 128Kb.
Delphi MT05.2 based on the MCU Infineon SAK-XC164CS-32F40BB with internal flash memory 256Kb.
Delphi MT05.3 based on the MCU NXP SPC572 with internal flash memory 1.5mb
Software module for reading and writing through the diagnostic connector Delphi MT05 and MT05.2 MT5.3 ECUs on different moto vehicles.
China Bosch Moto/ExtremeBosch MSE3.0 (FID: 6, 78)
ECU is based on MCU ST10F275 with internal memory area 832Kb. Allows Virtual Reading and Writing with CS fixing. If we have no file on server it is possible to read in BSL mode with FID:78.
Bosch MSE6.0/US6.0 (FID: 79)
ECU is based on MCU SPC563M64 with internal memory area 1.5Mb. Allows Virtual Reading (and real reading if no file on server) and Writing with CS fixing. Work is possible on the BENCH only in case that there is no CANbus in diagnostic plug.
Module for software identification and virtual reading and writing Bosch MSE 3.0 ECUs
Rotax ExtremeSiemens MSE 3.7x (FID: 10, 80)
Siemens MSE 3.7x family allows to get software ID, read FullFlash and write calibration area by K-line (FID 10) and CANbus (FID 80), also it performes checksum correction on writing.
For today we support 2 ECU types:


Siemens MSE 3.7 with MCU ST10F269 and internal Flash memory 256Kb.
Siemens MSE 3.71 with MCU ST10F269 and internal Flash memory 256Kb.

Bosch ME17.8.5 (FID: 11, 31)
Allows to get software ID, virtual reading of the FullFlash from our server and to write calibration area by CANbus. Also it performs checksum correction on writing.
We will not respond to the claims about the inability to read a file from our server (Virtual reading) if we do not have it.
ECU is based on MCU Infineon Tricore TC1762 with internal Flash memory 1504Kb.
Rotax P-TEK (FID:199)
ECU is based on MCU MC9S12D64 with internal flash memory 64Kb. Allows to get software ID, read and write calibration area by CANbus with CS calculation.
Module for reading and writing extreme vehicles with Rotax engines and ECUs Bosch ME17.8.5 and Siemens MSE 3.7x. Checksum correction included.
China Bosch Petrol

Bosch ME7.9.7 (FID: 68) with C167 1Mb VR/W/CS
Bosch M(E)7.9.71 (FID: 233) with ST10F275 832Kb VR/W/CS
Bosch M7.8 (FID: 57) with ST10F275 832Kb VR/W/CS
Bosch ME7.8.8 (FID: 63) with ST10F275 832Kb K-line VR/W/CS
Bosch ME7.8.8 (FID: 76) with ST10F275 832Kb CAN VR/W/CS
Bosch ME17.8.8 (FID: 60) with Infineon TC1728 1.5Mb R/W/CS
Bosch ME17.8.8 Saic (FID: 127) with Infineon TC1728 1.5Mb R/W/CS
Bosch ME17.8.8 Vantage (FID: 166) with Infineon TC1728 1.5Mb R/W/CS
Bosch ME17.8.8.1 (FID: 82) with Infineon TC1728 1.5Mb R/W/CS
Bosch ME17.8.8.1 Geely (FID: 84) with Infineon TC1728 1.5Mb R/W/CS
Bosch MED17.8.10 Haval (FID: 122) with Infineon TC1728 1.5Mb BR/W/CS /TEST/
Bosch MED17.8.10 Geely (FID: 234) with Infineon TC1728 1.5Mb BR/W/CS /TEST/
BYD TB10 Type1 (FID: 81) with Renesas SH72531 1.25Mb R/W/CS
BYD TB10 Type2 (FID: 148) with Renesas SH72531 1.25Mb VR/W/CS
Bosch M7.8/ME7.8.8 BSL (FID: 75) with ST10F275 832Kb K-line R/CS*

* – adapter BENCH required. Tested only with J2534 Openport 2.0 and SM2 Pro
Software module for reading and writing Bosch ECUs internal flash memory for China vehicles with petrol engines.
Honda Moto Keihin

Honda Moto Keihin K-Line Reader (FID:175)
Honda Moto Keihin M32R/SPC 256KB (FID:125) – R/W/CS
Honda Moto Keihin H8C 32/56KB (FID:126) – R/W/CS
Honda Moto Keihin SPC 512KB (FID:174) – R/W/CS
Honda Moto Keihin SH7058 1MB (FID:227) – R/W/CS
Honda Moto Keihin R8C/M16C 32/48/64/96/128KB (FID:226) – VR/W/CS

Attention! Some of ECUs can require external programming voltage to start writing. If this ECU type will be detected automatically, Tool will ask you to perform some actions – it is possible on the BENCH only. Please check manual and YouTube video for details.
Some Keihin R8C/M16C ECUs have internal limitation for reading. It reads incomplete and incorrect file. If you receive CS error message while reading please do not use this file for writing. Try to get correct file with virtual reading with FID 226. If we have no file on server you need to read file with ECU opening with third party programmers. Also you can send us ECU for reading.
Other ECU types will be add ASAP.
Module for reading and writing Honda motorbikes, ATVs and other extreme vehicles with Keihin ECUs. Reading/Writing by KLINE ( Not CAN-Line )
https://b2083279.smushcdn.com/2083279/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/is_new.png?lossy=1&strip=1&webp=1 (https://www.maicsonecutuning.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/is_new.png)Honda Moto ShindengenModule for reflashing Honda motorbikes and scooters with Shindengen ECUs.
Honda Moto Shindengen V850/RH850 K-Line (FID:337)
Shindengen ECUs based on Renesas V850/RH850 series MCU with internal flash memory 256/384Kb.
Allows software identification, virtual reading if we have file on server, writing by K-line, CS calculation, recovery.
If your file is not available on our server – you can send us ECU for file reading (ECU will be opened).
Continental M3C

Arctic Cat Continental M3C 9S12XE (FID:194)
BRP Continental M3C 9S12XE (FID:193)
Ducati Continental M3C 9S12XD (FID:191)
Ducati Continental M3C 9S12XE (FID:192)
KTM/Husqvarna Continental M3C 9S12XE (FID:196)
Beta/Kymco/Sherco/Stels/TGB Continental M3C 9S12XE (FID:195)

let me know

[Icosalo]

my opinion....take kess, ktag and other tool. kt200 have also many new ecu in list but when fails....it will cost u more than u would wish....

if you mean ktag v2 it doesnt support bosch me17.8.5 (only boot!) and continental m3c (no way)

[bogdanwmw]

Bitbos is original tool and have support tehnic....I use and is good tool.