Rumors *** and Nagra3 Hacked

[alunfennell]

Rumours about hack *** and Л@gЯa 3

Since yesterday monitors our editors increasingly rumours about the possible
hack of the *** √id*◊Gu*Яd and Kudelski Л@gЯa 3 coderingsystemen.
In practice this could mean that the package of ?*Ψ Italia (√id*◊Gu*Яd),
the Spanish D (Л@gЯa3) and the German Pr€mieЯe (Л@gЯa3) without
paying any adjustments can be made visible.

The potential of the hack Л@gЯa3 system
will be a major blow to the ailing
Swiss coderingsspecialist Kudelski.
This past week, made known a substantial loss in the first part of 2008 ago.
This was mainly suffered by the costs that the company had to make codes
cracked by television weather to recover. Even the loss of customers by the
long-term free channels has to look at the losses to Kudelski.
In the Netherlands using the digital television CanalDigitaal (MΣdi@guaЯd)
and UPC (Л@gЯa2) the encryption of Kudelski
well as other products and services of the Swiss company.

The possible Л@gЯa3 hack is of a commercial nature.
There will soon be a "smart card ijskrabber" on the market which
brought more than 120 euros will cost. The force and any lasting
effect of this smart card is totally uncertain, hence the pet name
"ijskrabber."

Today come from Italy also becoming increasingly
stubborn rumors that have never publicly H@ckΣd
√id*◊Gu*Яd encoding of the English *** prey would have been cases of hackers.
It talks about using an old Nokia Dbox receiver via a particular file should
be modified. This is the zenderpakket of the Italian branch of the worldwide
?*Ψ television. The international satellietforum Satscreen has been
through an email to its members asked to holders of Dbox recipients
to enter into the file on force to be tested.

Satellite Magazine would unnecessarily indicate that use
of modified smartcards and / or satellite receivers are free to be
able to watch television which must be paid in the Netherlands through
the Penal Code prohibited. Reason to strongly warn visitors of possible
ways to look for free use.

[Devilfish]

Sounds good, let's hope it becomes public soon.

[alunfennell]

Lets hope so ! But the fact is that I belive nothing will happen untill all provides have fully changed over to Nagra3, Digitv are due to switch over next year after they issue new cards to over 6 different countrys, Polsat are due to change in January, but what everyone forgets is Nagravision has got the contract for one of America's largest cable and satellite providers due to start testing next year with Nagra 3, The question been asked are does Europe wait for American Hackers to join the party or do we blast ahead and possably make it harder for Americans with newer versions of Nagra 3 been used across the water.

Some sugest that Europe will wait untill not only Europe change over but also America, we could have screen blanked for a long time or an expencive one if you are to buy cards.

I have read Nagravision are already starting with counter measures for any Unofficial commericial pirate cards by issuing algorithmus that will make the cards crash frequently.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

Sounds promising mate. Ive heard about the nd? hack rumour. N4gra3 has already been fully hacked and is now viewable via the very expensive `cenauturas card` this includes Tv c4bo and premyer already. It shouldnt be too long before the hack is put in to key version and softcam

[alunfennell]

My view on any cards released this early is that they have been issued by Nagravision to regainen finances lost due to Nagra2 been openly hacked all across Europe for the past number of years, Nagravision know that people like us will buy these cards when we end up with blank screens, they also know we will buy off the black market, its a good strategy.

The price of the cenauturas card is nearly the price of a subscription of some providers in Europe.

Once the card is hacked and the coded scripted onto a softcam with the use of Keys like you said then we can enjoy happy day for at least 2-3 years.

To my knowledge Nagra3 is just a fast processing encryption (4x) than Nagra2 with a new algorithm or ROM as its called, the Next generation Nagra 4 (lets call it ) will be very hard to hack with a supported BGA chip on the receiver linked to the subscribers card for each subscriber (Much like Sky Digital).

We will in my mind enjoy Nagra 3 Providers for 2-3 years but then I feel we will face our biggest hurdel in this hobby Nagra 4.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

Nag3 should be softcammed in the next 6months lets hope so we should enjoy that but nag4 will be the biggest test. More of a test than nd5.

[smokey_jnr]

sorry for stupidity but what is the difference between these nagra 3 and 4 ... is just better encoding of pic and sound

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

Nag4 is not even out yet but when it is the coding will be much more advanced with more digits in a key. Maybe 128 as nag3 has 64 and nag2 32. As a new version of security comes out the harder it gets to hack.

[satman]

I reckon the nd$ one is fulla lies,, but i do belive n3 will be softcamd soon,
my friend in poland said n3 soon, but nd$ nooooooo dont think so,
they dbox trick they are using is crap,, sly were using constantcw words on channel5,, this was well known, and defo not a cracked solution,,
more i think preparing ch5 for freesat.

[alunfennell]

Arrests were made in London and Rome a few months ago in relation to the distrabution and hacking of N*S so I belive they were on to something, the question to be asked has this development been stoped, the problem with all of this is Hackers want money for there codes and cards, this is how they get caught, to get away with such a hack you have to release it for everyone, of course then nobody has the power to stop it.

Nagravision have only one or two brains working for them and so far they have used up two lives, there new version Nagra3 is nothing more than Nagra2.1. A mathematician will come up with one or two unique algorithums in his or her life time, Nagravision algorithum logic behind there encryption has been hacked, it does not matter what they do now the logic will always stay the same, there methods will change but the basic algorithum will be the same unless they can find someone with a fresh algorithum somewhere in the world that can be paid to keep quiet.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

In my opinion n3 has been hacked and the hacks will only be available once digiTV, polsat, and premiere have changed fully to there encryption to ensure the hack doesnt stop changes and this should leave us with more years of premium tv

[alunfennell]

My sentiments exactly.

[aftermath]

Well i can confirm that as of today Premiier has now changed over fully to N4gra3, no more premierHD or other movies from premier.

What a shame , i will miss them.

but something will come along soon, as always.

[thered]

story of my life just get something up and running and it all goes t*ts up nevermind lol

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

is sport gone? at school now so cant check.

[aftermath]

is sport gone? at school now so cant check.

Yes Premier sport portal has gone as well

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

thats sad, very sad. now its down to digiTV.
oh and the hackers

[icaicm]

premiere fully nagra 3 now. it will be missed.

[aftermath]

Premiere encryption system fully secure again

? Old signal switched off: New and fully secure encryption system from today onwards
? Modified digital receivers and illicit devices useless
? Premiere only available for Premiere subscribers

Munich, November 10, 2008. As of today, Premiere?s encryption system is fully secure again. Premiere has today switched off its former encryption signal. All smartcards for the new CA systems of Nagravision and NDS Videoguard have been swapped already. All modified digital receivers and illicit devices, which have been used to circumvent the old encryption system to watch Premiere illegally, have became useless for this purpose. From today onward, Premiere is only available for Premiere subscribers.
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[alunfennell]

RIP Premiere you will be missed, we still have Digitv so not to bad, a lot of stuff in english like Discovery channels and National Geographic, Movies etc.

How long will we bw waiting for Nagra 3 to be open ? thats the question, In America they are faceing the same as Dish Networks and a few other providers have all changed to Nagra3 is it a bleak time for us all.

[smiak]

Can anyone tell me why polsat cannot disable N2 at all? Few channels already in N3 for a month or less and that means all official subscribers have new N3 cards BUT...

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

They have to make sure all customers have the new card. That includes england subs too.

[nut]

its never going to be hacked the encryption is a combination of Nagra and NDS systems NDS has not been hacked since sly have been using it well over 10 years ago.

[alunfennell]

Nagravision still has a years contract with Pemiere still to run, With Rupert Murdock buying 22% in premiere of course he wants NDS to be used rather than the competition encryption system, they are technically two different encryptions running independently from each other encoding Premiere at the moment, Since Premiere signed with News Corperation ( Rupert Murdock) Fox have joined and more Twentieth Century Fox Films are now been shown than before.

If and when Nagra3 is hacked, Premiere will close the contract early on encryption rights with Nagravision If not they will see out there contract untill the final day, Sometime in 2009

Finaly with N*S Encryption Premiere have not married the subscription card with the receiver unlike Sky in the uk this in my view is the weak link and has already been temporary opened via Vplug.

[dov13]

:party :i dont know if you lot know but nag 3 has been hackt there are keys out there i know because i have seen them i dont know if i can post them here also know other site that posts them :rulez:brgs dov13

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

If its from nagra3.info then we have already seen them.

[dov13]

If its from nagra3.info then we have already seen them.

:wavey:no dude spanish site shows keys for tv cabo digtal plus etc and they work because seen them working :bounce:brgs dov13

[nut]

:wavey:no dude spanish site shows keys for tv cabo digtal plus etc and they work because seen them working :bounce:brgs dov13

you have not seen working D+ or cabo keys that work for over a year N3 IS NOT HACKED! you are either telling porkies or someone is telling you them. the keys change every couple of minutes so even if they were found by the time they where posted they would have changed.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

nut is correct, keys change about 20 times a hour

[alunfennell]

If and when the day finaly comes and Nagra3 is open across Europe fully again it will be the final straw, not only for Nagravision but for the Encryption methods presently been used by this i mean strings of code that have bee around for twenty years or so.

The Encryption method will in my mind change to a satellite version of VOD ( Video on Demand )with a dedicated IP address issued to each customer every time you log on as been developed by Newport Networks in south Wales.

This is the End of Nagravision if they are hacked again, Providers who have paid for Nagra3 change over will expect a lot more than they did with Nagra2, imagine how much it will cost Nagravision if any channels are opened and breaking contracts with the providers.

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

I could feel sympathetic but im already missing premiere so i wont. lol

[javaoverride]

if they move to an ip/mac system this in theroy will be easy to get around using clone details or spoofed info sort of the same way used in getting free cable internet