LCD Or Plasma For HD??

[khurramdar]

:rangers2:Hi all,

I want to buy a LCD or Plasma for viewing the HD channels.Please confirm me which technology is best for HD.I am looking forward to your response.

Bye

[opsmonkey]

ive got a LCD HD TV and i think its great.. My mate has a Plasma HD.. I think the quality on mine when viewing HD channels is a bit better.. I remember reading that Plasma needs re-charging after a few years and that static logos, like the ones used on Sky Sports in the corners can give screen burn on Plasma..
Someone with a plasma may want to clarify the above but i reckon the LCD is king :guns:

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

The old plasmas needed recharging. The newer ones dont. The plasma has a slightly higher power consumption and i think your right about the static logos.

[davidharvey75]

Not an expert, but i heard it depends on what size of tv your after. 42" and above okay for plasma, but smaller than that it would probably be lcd. But i may be wrong.

I have a Panasonic TX-32lmd70a lcd (only 720p mind) for the back bedroom. But if it's for watching sky hd on, i imagine your going for the full hd experience.

[Cable Baron]

It does depend a lot on what size you are after, what davidharvey75 is true. 42" above tends to be plasma (cheaper to produce than a lcd). what you want to look for in the specs is the contrast ratio i.e. 30000:1 (for blacker blacks) and higher and whether it is 50hz or 100hz. if it is 100hz you get less fuzz arounbd movement especially football. good tv's to keep an eye out for in my opinion are samsungs series 6,7,8,9 and sony's w4500 and z4500 series.

[dctyper]

simple guide matey:

plasma's do not have as many hours life as lcd
lcd is matt
plasma is glossy

do you want a reflection on your tv watching the footy on a sunny sunday afternoon?

[nano_watt]

I have a Plasma and now I wish chosen a LCD.
I can tell you it will cost you a lot more in elctricity if you chose a Plasma. I have a 40inch and it sucks near 300watt. Its Ok at the moment it just adds to the warmth in the sitting room on winter nights but come summer you wish you bought a LCD. I think an equivalent 40inch LCD only takes about 120watt. I know one thing if you want to play games by connecting it to your xbox or PC then the response time for the Plasma is a lot better than a LCD. I know we are only talking about milliseconds but visually it can make all the difference. Good luck in your purchase.

:ciao:

[kronos]

Never mind LCD or Plasma, I cant wait to get my hands on one of these OLED (http://www.itproportal.com/articles/2008/10/04/sony-working-bendable-folding-oled-screens/)
Looks the business.

[pnemickey]

LCD beats PLASMA in terms of efficiency and life expectancy, plasma might give slightly better quality, but imho not the edge over lcd, and dont buy an expensive either. I have a sharp and an orion, and find the orion better

[Staminastan]

Plasma fan here, plasma images move so much more naturally than LCDs plus their colour reproduction is streets ahead - my series 6 Panasonic (so 3-4yrs old now) knocks spots off mum and dad's 3 month old Toshiba LCD. If the main thing you'll watch on your screen is movies, and you're able to darken your room I'd suggest you definitely buy plasma; if you'll be watching a lot of TV or gaming mostly during the day then I'd *consider* LCD (but still I'd buy a plasma and curtains!)

New plasmas don't suffer from static image burn in anymore, a logo may hang around for a little while after switching channels but it soon fades. And even on my relatively ancient set, no image has hung around longer than a day, but I have always been careful. Not a prob as I say though on modern screens.

You should ignore quoted contrast ratios on LCDs and plasmas, all manufacturers measure them differently and worse they're all measured in impossibly unrealistic situations (like a handful of coloured pixels on a black background, for example). In real life situations plasmas and LCDs manage hundreds:1 rather than thousands:1, a long way behind old fashioned CRT sets.

You'll find lots of advice over at avforums.com but be braced for everybody insisting their model of LCD or Plasma is DEFINITELY the best! Best thing to do I reckon is go into a propper AV shop (not Dixons et al) with propperly set up screens, and take a favourite DVD or Bluray disc.

And what is "recharging" :s: If you mean regassing, i.e. putting plasma gases back into a leaky screen then that's an urban myth started by plasma sellers in the early days of the technology, wanting to sell customers extended waranties! There is no such thing as regassing.

[yannos]

Hi there,

I really think it depends on the size of the tv.

I had a 46" Sony Bravia LCD and it was a terrible picture. Managed to send it back after a week.

Now have a 42" Viera and i really like it, great picture and sound.

I would consider an LCD upto 37"

Yannos.

[logic_187]

there seems to be a lot of posts here which seem to recommend something without proof are provide a wider picture

Plasmas do not need to be re-gassed, a plama will last you past 10 years , thats if it doesnt break down on you....lets be honest most people will be changing it between 5- 10 years so life expectancy means nothing.

Plasma will provide you with a better picture period. Not all plasma's are glossy. Most plasmas do not suffer from screen burn as people seem to suggest. You would have had to to have a static image for more than 24hrs before any permanent damage has occured. Also a lot of manufacturers have anti image retention technologies, to reduce the problem. I would only worry with unknown/budget brands

LCD's are good in a well lit room but are total crap in dimmed environment. They are also good with power consumption BUT plasma is closing the gap VERY quickly.

Each technology has its own pro's and con's and its for the consumer to do some research (magazines, Avforums etc) and see each panel with their own eyes....and i'm not talking about going down to Curry's or Comet .....i'm talking about a reputable dealer who will spend time setting up each screen properly in an enviornment similar to your home.

I've seen a properly calibrated plasma/LCD and can honestly say LCD does not come close to SD/HD picture quality as a plasma.

[chalky 4]

I read somewhere that HD is only really effective in 42 inch and above. Is there any truth in this.

[logic_187]

@chalky not entirely..... it realy depends on how far you sit from the screen, if you sit too far away a HD ready set will be better than a FULL HD set as your eyes wont be able to resolve the extra detail and therefore not worth spending the extra on the full HD panel.

[truey]

What a load of twaddle ha ha a plasma does not and never has needed recharging its a load of crap - if i told you i had 3 legs you would believe me then tell someone else etc etc and it goes on and on - wait a mo gotta go put my plasma on charge for tonights telly lol :withstupid:

[Dazzonamission]

Hi there,

I really think it depends on the size of the tv.

I had a 46" Sony Bravia LCD and it was a terrible picture. Managed to send it back after a week.

Now have a 42" Viera and i really like it, great picture and sound.

I would consider an LCD upto 37"

Yannos.

I much prefer Plasma over Lcd, I have owned plasma's for the last 10 years and not even had a dead pixel.
My current plasma is the Pioneer Kuro PDP-LX5090 this really is something else and the picture quality is truely amazing.
My Mother brought a Sony Bravia LCD recently and i was impressed with the picture quality,but it's not in the same league as the Kuro.

[McMav]

I much prefer Plasma over Lcd, I have owned plasma's for the last 10 years and not even had a dead pixel.
My current plasma is the Pioneer Kuro PDP-LX5090 this really is something else and the picture quality is truely amazing.
My Mother brought a Sony Bravia LCD recently and i was impressed with the picture quality,but it's not in the same league as the Kuro.

To be fair its not in the same price range either :D

I see the EU wants to ban plasmas now because of the silly amounts of electricity they use almost 2.5 times the amount a LCD/CRT uses. First the light bulbs now the plasmas :D

[mikeyb]

I recently got an LCD after trying to figure out the difference in quality between LCD and Plasma. I got an LCD because of price, all round performance and low power consumption. Its also got a silly function which changes the brightness of the screen when in a dark room.

[RADCOMJ1]

StaminaStan is right in his diatribe :tee: hopefully he has dispelled some of the rubbish that gets banded around lol Above 37" there are some greatr Plasmas and LCD's.....go to a good TV shop and have a look at the new LCD Panasonic, Philips, Sony and LG screens, they are very good. I am going for Plasma in the form of a Pioneer Kuro...living black. Other Plasma model represent extremely good value.

[cactikid]

yes just bought pioneer kuro plasma pdp-lx5090 well pleased i see it got a 5star rating and said no tv on planet comes near it,then all u need is a hd sat and cable box lol

[mikeyb]

Hope your enjoying your TV

[allvira]

simple guide matey:

plasma's do not have as many hours life as lcd
lcd is matt
plasma is glossy

do you want a reflection on your tv watching the footy on a sunny sunday afternoon?

Exactly dctyper, I am agree with your point. As I am using LCD Phillips 32 inches. It wonderful and its picture quality is too good.

[electroguy75]

why not google plasma vs. lcd and get the true technical pros and cons between the 2. then u can decide for urself based on fact alone. lots of good points in this thread, but as well lots of bs.JMO. cheers

[Takeshi]

Whatever you decide to buy, it should be Japanese. Leave the Korean brands alone.

[gmb45]

all ways sony for me quality and reliabilty

[pete1]

within the one years warranty dixons had to change the plasma tv due to the picture dying 3 in total now had lcd past five months still perfect:driver:

[RADCOMJ1]

Well I'm a bit biased but the Pioneer Krp-500A is the Carlsberg of TV's lol. To be honest both technologies offer great TV's. Plasmas are a bit better when it comes to large sizes and are "newer" technology whereas LCD technology has an extremely wide range to choose from. Picture quality is always going to be subjective and a result of tweaking...

[archers]

I got a 50 inch sony lcd rear projection tv bought it last year and it beats plasma and lcd tv's hands down.Apart from space. In my old place I had a 21 foot living room in my new house its 12 foot so I cant use the TV.

Gutteed so theway I se it is like this

Plasma and lcd can both look good its when you get down to size 40 inch and below I think a top name lcd will beat a top name plasma but 40+ its plasma tv's all the way.

On a side note On a true 1080p tv SD wii look crap next to a 720p set running the same channel.

[freefa11]

just go look or your self and decide your self if you cant tell the difence then you wont notice the difrence so get the cheeper 1 if thats what you prefer
but plasma is way better for picture quality in a normal room if your room has loads of sun light or the screen is facing the window get a lcd
although if your watching mostly at night plasma is still better in that surcemstance

cant spell for shit

[notime]

Well now that pioneer is stopping the plasma range there are a lot of offers. you can buy a krp-500a for 2800 euro's. so compaired to the next best thing the new neopdp from panasonic that cost's 5799 euro ( in the netherlands ) i think the best thing to do is to buy the krp-500a krp-600a or the pdp-lx5090(h)/6090(h). Than you'll have the reference class tv set to use for a year 5-10 when that is broken there are a lot of cheap better develloped oled or other technologies. When you look at the new led or lcd tv's from this time you'll see that the technology isn't all that yet. And don't look at specs like contrast ratio, that is a lot of bull... Take a look with your own eyes in the audio/video specialist. And trust me, till this day Nothing beats a KURO.

And if you are wondering what tv i have: A KURO no, i wish. But i was stupid enough to be tricked in buying top of the line full-hd lcd a year ago without comparing it with my own eyes. Now i'm selling this one and will go for the kuro for the above reason.

and for the power consumption: a plasma will use full power per pixel when it's bright white, and next to nothing when black.

a lcd uses full power with bright white, but also with complete black.

so when u are looking the whole day a movie shot from a xenon bulb the plasma will draw the most power from the grid.

A test had showed that when you'll watch in an hour 15 minutes of sport, 15, minutes of movie, 15 minutes of news and 15 minutes of other diverse the plasma and lcd will use a bit less but not a lot.

and how many hours a day are you watching tv?

are you watching movies ( which are generally darker)

i know that this thread is going on for over a year or so, and will the thread starter let us know his findings.


kind regards

[jfish]

from what most experts say anything from 42" higher Plasma is best

but Plasma do suffer from image retention, not as bad as the earlier models, but they do, I have a 50" LG Plasma and once my son left the a game in pause mode for a good hour and when I went to watch TV I could see the Wii image and it took it a few minutes to clear and then it wasnt perfect, thank god my LG has a whitewash which cleared the screen and it was back to normal.

Panasonic tend to be better when it comes to IR than other makes.

[Reapers]

plasma or lcd it always comes down to the hardware in the tv that determines which is better...

[khurramdar]

Thanks for all your kind answers.
At last i can buy the Philips 42 LCD 5000 Series.And i am enjoyed with its HD features.

[impactops]

Plasma's always win hands down in picture quality.When you compare a high end plasma with a high end lcd, the plasma wins.Plasma's use phosphur just like a crt tv does, instead of an electron beam hitting the phosphur the plasma does.It has vibrant colours and does not suffer from viewing angle problems.If i was to buy an lcd it would only be a sony bravia.The motion engine used to proccess the image is second to none.The problem with lcd tv's is that the CCFL's or the inverter that drives them always fails, that is the single most failure in a lcd tv.Unless your prepared to fork out the money & buy an LED LCD TV.Also i recommend that you get the extented warranty on an lcd tv

khurramdar, i've attached the service manual for the tv that you've probably bought already, you'll need it

[gileii]

I have lg 42lh3000 with unlocked USB for play HD mkv files and I am more than satisfied.

[cunny]

I also have the above TV and its superb. Plasma do have a brighter picture, other than that, there is only a few differences. Plasma have issue with image retention, so basically if your playing video games on a tv, your best with LCD as they are faster than plasma

I run as many films ect in 1080p on an LCD and i cant complain at all, have seen plasma but i prefer LCD