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terryuk22
8th July, 2010, 07:28 PM
well i want to see what next is the the next big thing when a ufo crasshes.

we had had tin foil fibre optics plasma lcd tvs cant wait for the engine thats 10cc puts out 5000 bhp and does 20,0000 to a fluid ounce 0-100 1 sec

Or a genertor that puts out the same power as 10 atomic power stations thats the size of a i pod but works on solar enegy

sass16
10th July, 2010, 01:34 PM
May-bye something from energy sector? Very small nuclear reactors, reactors without radiation etc.

patkins
11th July, 2010, 01:49 AM
Hello sass16 and welcome to DK. Great first post.

steee
15th July, 2010, 10:41 AM
What is interesting is the new particle reactor underground in the alps !! interesting to see what they are playing with now ,, cause black holes? doomsay machiune? lots of theries

chroma
16th July, 2010, 03:57 AM
May-bye something from energy sector? Very small nuclear reactors, reactors without radiation etc.

Like Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Cutdrawing_of_an_GPHS-RTG.jpg

They use these to power deep space probes where fuel cells wouldnt last the distances.

Meat-Head
16th July, 2010, 02:05 PM
Like Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators?



They use these to power deep space probes where fuel cells wouldnt last the distances.

Is this one fitted with the sideward facing foo-foo valve?

chroma
21st July, 2010, 07:45 AM
Is this one fitted with the sideward facing foo-foo valve?

LOL

Im surprised by just how easy these things are to rig up, you could build one from common household parts, the only significant hurdle is the actual radioisotopes.

The good news is i that the material needed falls well under weapons grade so you could pick some americium 241 easily enough.

Some lead plating, several peltier coolers (these are thermoelectric coolers marketed at pc enthusiasts, the downside is they cause condensation which is why they never really took off in the comercial market) The genius is that they work in reverse, you add heat to one side you create a potential difference and create voltage.

Add to this some spent fire extinguishers, a stack of smoke alarms, a lot of heavy guage wire, brake lining, thermal paste, and concrete.

Strip down the fire extinguishers, bore small diameter holes for the wiring and larger for the tubing, make sealed coils copper brake lining and attatch them to one side of the peltiers with thermal paste and adhesive.
Arrange the peltiers inside the extinguishers to give the most surface area, wire up the peltiers in parallel outside the extinguisher and run off to some heavy guage like 10mm twin.
Arange all the coper tubing so that by pumping one through one end it will get round every peltier before getting out the other.
Next electricaly seal everything before wrapping the entire unit in lead roll.

Then strip your smoke alarms for your pellets of americium, add them into the extinguisher untill its filled.
some care would be prudent here, its radioactive emmitting mostly alpha but the more you scale up the greater the gamma emmission becomes, so scale your lead and housing soloution accordingly.

arrange a few of these into a dug out concrete lined hole, wire everything up and solder all the joints of the tubing to complee a circuit, bury the lot in scraps of lead, concrete and granite rubble, till youve got a single line comming out for power and a pair of copper pipes.

all you need to do then is attatch a pump to drive water round to cool the lot, using radiators stripped from old fridges. Upscale that to refrigerant for higher yeild if you like.

There you are 400+ years of free power with the only maintainance being a periodic pump/refrigerant change.

You could even bolt on a heat exchanger to give you free heating and hot water from the system futher driving up yeild.

Meat-Head
21st July, 2010, 08:50 AM
a stack of smoke alarms,.

The word on the street is you should not have more than 7 (think) stacked together.

Guess this is a safe limit for a shop shelf.

Therefore suggest something else more radioactive, say a sheep from Wales infected by Chonbol - Go in the dark, there the ones that glow in the dark.

What about glo-sticks, are they radio active?

patkins
21st July, 2010, 09:49 PM
LOL

Im surprised by just how easy these things are to rig up, you could build one from common household parts, the only significant hurdle is the actual radioisotopes.

The good news is i that the material needed falls well under weapons grade so you could pick some americium 241 easily enough.

Some lead plating, several peltier coolers (these are thermoelectric coolers marketed at pc enthusiasts, the downside is they cause condensation which is why they never really took off in the comercial market) The genius is that they work in reverse, you add heat to one side you create a potential difference and create voltage.

Add to this some spent fire extinguishers, a stack of smoke alarms, a lot of heavy guage wire, brake lining, thermal paste, and concrete.

Strip down the fire extinguishers, bore small diameter holes for the wiring and larger for the tubing, make sealed coils copper brake lining and attatch them to one side of the peltiers with thermal paste and adhesive.
Arrange the peltiers inside the extinguishers to give the most surface area, wire up the peltiers in parallel outside the extinguisher and run off to some heavy guage like 10mm twin.
Arange all the coper tubing so that by pumping one through one end it will get round every peltier before getting out the other.
Next electricaly seal everything before wrapping the entire unit in lead roll.

Then strip your smoke alarms for your pellets of americium, add them into the extinguisher untill its filled.
some care would be prudent here, its radioactive emmitting mostly alpha but the more you scale up the greater the gamma emmission becomes, so scale your lead and housing soloution accordingly.

arrange a few of these into a dug out concrete lined hole, wire everything up and solder all the joints of the tubing to complee a circuit, bury the lot in scraps of lead, concrete and granite rubble, till youve got a single line comming out for power and a pair of copper pipes.

all you need to do then is attatch a pump to drive water round to cool the lot, using radiators stripped from old fridges. Upscale that to refrigerant for higher yeild if you like.

There you are 400+ years of free power with the only maintainance being a periodic pump/refrigerant change.

You could even bolt on a heat exchanger to give you free heating and hot water from the system futher driving up yeild.

When you`ve assembled the above pop in the oven at gas mark 7 for about 45 mins. Serve with horse radish/shi* sauce. Mmmmmmmm.

chroma
21st July, 2010, 10:10 PM
The word on the street is you should not have more than 7 (think) stacked together.

Guess this is a safe limit for a shop shelf.

Therefore suggest something else more radioactive, say a sheep from Wales infected by Chonbol - Go in the dark, there the ones that glow in the dark.

What about glo-sticks, are they radio active?

yes and no, they emit no more adiaion than your average stuff like water, grass, rocks (some rock is more radioactive than others)

Frankly nah, theyre just toxic.

You could even fuel an RTG with radioactive waste and spent fuel rods, it would save the stuff just siting in barrels in some nondescript warehouse and would actualy make the stuff slightly more useful, the yield wouldnt be great (well under your average watt per cm?) but it would at least output something whilst it decays down to safe background levels.

Meat-Head
21st July, 2010, 10:22 PM
Frankly nah, theyre just toxic.

toxic is a good start, anything harmful is good stuff.

so what about (being serious - ish) streetlights powered by spent radioactive rods and stuff.

if it's giving off heat, water steam, turbine, 'free' electricity

chroma
22nd July, 2010, 01:01 AM
toxic is a good start, anything harmful is good stuff.

so what about (being serious - ish) streetlights powered by spent radioactive rods and stuff.

if it's giving off heat, water steam, turbine, 'free' electricity

Peltiers do the same as turbines without the hastle of maintainance and steam.

There should definately be enough for street lights, especialy the newfangled low voltage ones.

Meat-Head
22nd July, 2010, 06:00 PM
Peltiers do the same as turbines without the hastle of maintainance and steam.


they are cool, they get amazingly cold on one side and amazingly hot on the other, then without a heat sink the cold side get's hot lol

there was some guy that got a MASSIVE bolt and used thermal glue to glue a peifler to it, used it to cool beer, after 2 uses the beer had rotted off the galve, bolt went rusty, made him ill lol