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rtvservis
21st August, 2010, 01:45 PM
have problem with diferen presure senzor or broke fap filter on yoar
peugoet . i have easy solution for this problem .

to successfully simulate the pressure sensor values have to change depending on engine speed. values that I took to the air flow sensor and adapted them to his values along the two resistors. all you need to do is diskonected pressure sensor and two resistors conected to a mass. another on the air flowmeter. Diagnose clear error. Puncture and fap filter that would not have stopped the accident.
ridzal cazim (http://www.ridzal.com.ba)

httpwww.youtube.comwatchv=9qn8UStNU7g

citronel
21st August, 2010, 04:58 PM
for what car did you test that because for PSA car this is not correct 100% !!!

I don't know who you are but please remove the pictures you stolen from my web site and make your own pictures !
You deleted all my details and credit from my own pictures and posted in your web site...

Shame on you RIDZAL CAZIM You are thief !


your site with my stolen pictures and details erased:
http://s2.postimage.org/2Eg7A.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Ts2Eg7A)http://s2.postimage.org/2EiCJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Ts2EiCJ)http://s2.postimage.org/2El6S.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Ts2El6S)

my site with original pictures:
http://s1.postimage.org/MdQor.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxMdQor) http://s1.postimage.org/MdeZi.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxMdeZi)

rideon
22nd August, 2010, 09:57 PM
URGENT!! need admin to make this thread a STICKY one!!

citronel
22nd August, 2010, 11:38 PM
I think you wanted to say stick to trash bin !

Almost all very good threads from past has gone, I don't know why...
Now you need to stick this garbage and advertise thief web page ??

Why don't just stick ECU Safe cracked ???
It is safer anyway than 2 resistors sale for x00Euro with 12 month warranty by rtvservis = ridzal cazim that needed to steal my pictures & edit to promote his creation that had a premature and short life.

Stick this one !
Thieves - EMU FAP original pictures (http://www.phones-direct.ro/public/fapsensor/thieves.html)

p.s.
My FAP EMU has nothing to do with his creation, you can see my FAP EMU have 4 wires and I am not touching MAF for a good reason !
(http://www.phones-direct.ro/public/fapsensor/thieves.html)

lollo54
23rd August, 2010, 12:28 AM
citronel you're right.
the data are wrong and can also cause dangerous anomalies
would be better if the post was removed
good job

rideon
23rd August, 2010, 06:59 AM
citronel (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/65918-citronel/),This is the main reason DK's garage section end up like this....
I saw your work early this year,appreciate the amount of time and effort that you put in this project,@ lollo54 last time i checked,this was a forum,not a user or repair manual,you can share info,but not necessary take it for granted,whatever you do with the info you get from here is your problem,got some customers that spend half our on some forum then start testing "at home",don't wanna know what happen next...

rtvservis
23rd August, 2010, 09:34 AM
for what car did you test that because for PSA car this is not correct 100% !!!

I don't know who you are but please remove the pictures you stolen from my web site and make your own pictures !
You deleted all my details and credit from my own pictures and posted in your web site...

Shame on you RIDZAL CAZIM You are thief !


your site with my stolen pictures and details erased:
http://s2.postimage.org/2Eg7A.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Ts2Eg7A)http://s2.postimage.org/2EiCJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Ts2EiCJ)http://s2.postimage.org/2El6S.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Ts2El6S)

my site with original pictures:
http://s1.postimage.org/MdQor.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxMdQor) http://s1.postimage.org/MdeZi.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxMdeZi)

SORY what I have taken the picture from your page.
You call ME thieves, but in fact :coffin:that you will lose jobs
Because it is MY SOLUTIONS IS FAST and Cheap
100 % WORKING TRAY IT

citronel
23rd August, 2010, 10:13 AM
Man I am not afraid of anything because I do not sell my projects abroad !
I offered my FAP EMU only to people from Citroen, Peugeot, PSA Club Romania that can't afford to buy a new FAP and at cost low than 1L of Eolys just to cover my expenses and electronics components in times when other people charge 500E for FAP removal.

For your knowledge from my first project finished ~2 years ago FAP Sensor to help people to keep working FAP for a longer interval:
I sent abroad to people that know how to build electronic kit FREE sample with all components included.
This cost me some money because I buy components and not steal them - I payed all costs including delivery.
I wanted to finish the web page with diagrams and hex file for ATMEGA8 I use in my projects because I do not want to promote FAP removal but people like you make me think why the hell I will do this if I work hard and other just steal the credits and even sell my work ?
Sensor Regeneration FAP / DPF & Turbo temperature (http://www.phones-direct.ro/public/fapsensor/index-uk.html)

I don't need money from my projects because I don't live from this activity.
I don't repair cars for money like you and I am not involved in auto service business. For me this it is Hobby !
I am very happy with what I accomplished in this life with my work and I don't need more.

I am now upset only because you took all my pictures and removed all credit from there, and you consider this very normal...
Maybe in your country it is normal in others this is called thief, and in Islamics country you can lose more than reputation...
do you know this ?

rtvservis
23rd August, 2010, 10:51 AM
I POOT SOLUTION FOR FREE AND YOU DONT LIKED

citronel
23rd August, 2010, 11:39 AM
If you are responsible man and care about your children's future then post also your solution to disable also Eolys injector when use your idea.

Because if you don't know, removing FAP and keeping Eolys system active it is irresponsibles.
This additive it is highly toxic and cancerous and because will not be kept inside FAP and will be released in air & water will affect more innocent people than you can image !

Man when you will remove my pictures from your www and post in your pages that your creation have nothing to do with my www pages and my projects let me know and I will remove my www pages about you.

Sorry but I don't enjoy this circus !

rtvservis
23rd August, 2010, 11:58 AM
IF YOU DONT KNOW , REMOWE ADITIV FROM TANK AND PUT ORDENERY DIZEL . THANK YOU FOR YOUR CARE . ANY MORE QUESTIONS

citronel
23rd August, 2010, 12:54 PM
Of course this mod will not be done by anybody because it is to hard & dirty.
And how do you think they store or dispose Eolys safe, or they just flush it after this at public water drain that it is of course recycled ?
Any other bright idea ? ... it just need a resistor or sw mod/config.

L.E.
Just check the resistance of pump additive circuit and replace it with the same resistor value.
This way additive pump will be disabled and no more additive injection in fuel tank.

citronel
23rd August, 2010, 02:00 PM
This is how MAF work so to people that understand a little electronics can see where you are wrong.

btr
23rd August, 2010, 02:25 PM
rtvservis,are you sure that the flowmeter sensor a correctly will measure parameters?

rtvservis
23rd August, 2010, 05:23 PM
1. REMUVE OR DRILL FAP FILTER
2 DISKONECTED PRESURE SENZOR
3.REMUVE ADITIV AND PUT DISEL
4. CONECT RESISTOR
5 CONECT PEZO PLANET OR ADER DIAGNOSTIC , CLEAR EROR .
GO TO MESHURE FAP PRESUR AND RIDING DATA ON ENGINE RUNING.
TO SEE IF IS OK ( PRESURE PARAMETAR CHENGE ON DIFERENT RMP )

I INSTOLED THIS SISTEM ON 30-40 CARS AND THEY ARE WORKING 100%

TRAY IT DUNOT COST LOTOF MANY .

cars
23rd August, 2010, 06:12 PM
This is how MAF work so to people that understand a little electronics can see where you are wrong.


It is evident that the system of the alleged "MAGICIAN OF RESISTANCE" can only work with engines DW10BTED (2000 hdi 110cv) and DW12BTED (2200 HDI) that have a MAF analog, while all of the new generation engines DV4 (EUR 5) DV6 ( HDI 1600) and DW10BTED4 (2000 HDI 16V) have a MAF digital with output signsl a square wave.
Also tricking the ECU in this manner after the mileage of regular consumption of Cerina MIL light will come on anyway.

Personally I think the whole controversy made by @ rtvservis is absurd when obviously took advantage of others' work, was enough to apologize and create their own pictures.

citronel
23rd August, 2010, 06:27 PM
@cars you are right.

Now more people can understand why the guys from this link made a digital emulator that have programmable calibration data:
Emulatory FAP-DPF :: O firmie (http://www.emulatory.com.pl/en/)

p.s.
I am not related to people from this link, but looks like they know how the system work and have there own solution.... and pictures.

For other just try free solution, it is not expensive to drill your FAP, just remember the hint:
0,2v at engine idle and 0,6v at 3000rpm load, good luck, you will need it in long term use.

btr
23rd August, 2010, 08:54 PM
1. REMUVE OR DRILL FAP FILTER
2 DISKONECTED PRESURE SENZOR
3.REMUVE ADITIV AND PUT DISEL
4. CONECT RESISTOR
5 CONECT PEZO PLANET OR ADER DIAGNOSTIC , CLEAR EROR .
GO TO MESHURE FAP PRESUR AND RIDING DATA ON ENGINE RUNING.
TO SEE IF IS OK ( PRESURE PARAMETAR CHENGE ON DIFERENT RMP )

I INSTOLED THIS SISTEM ON 30-40 CARS AND THEY ARE WORKING 100%

TRAY IT DUNOT COST LOTOF MANY .
Ok,but you not understand me,are you sure that the ecu correct calculate air volume,with connected resistors ?Look at schematic the connected wire are grounded via resistors:smokin:

cars
24th August, 2010, 10:44 AM
Ok,but you not understand me,are you sure that the ecu correct calculate air volume,with connected resistors ?Look at schematic the connected wire are grounded via resistors:smokin:

I do not think the resistance will change the reading of the signal, because the stage of the ECU is an operational amplifier that does not absorb current, but only reads the voltage at that point is equal to that generated by MAF. But there is the problem that if the resistors are not sized correctly, the current that through, could burn the MAF, which is made only to generate a voltage signal.

If I = V (the MAF) / R (series) is higher than the output stage of MAF, it can burns.

rtvservis
24th August, 2010, 07:22 PM
YOU NEED IS TWO SMALL RESISTOR WIRE AND THREE CONNECTIONS.
CONECT PEUGOET PLANET TO MEZURE DIFERENCIJEL PRESURE DATA.
IF DATA IS OK THE YOU DO REST OF WORK.

You can not LOSE anything if you try
IT WILL COST YOU LITTLE TIME AN 2 EURO OF PARTS.

bogovete
25th August, 2010, 01:41 AM
Hello I solve this problem very easily done repeater emitters of the mas air flow meter at 1000 levels krekts vol 0.00mbr - 80mbr-5000
and not activates regeneration every 400 km
Fap Vargin Neu
Atual for Audi,Bmw :coffin:
This was the truth
:thrasher:

Bogovete

zilijen
25th August, 2010, 10:23 PM
hello friends my experience with the solution from the first post that I was burnt MAF and the ECU during the ride sign "MAF signal plausibile. car was 307 2.0hdi rhy

rideon
29th August, 2010, 10:17 PM
smirnoff_rules (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/46-smirnoff_rules/) say :"any information provided is for educational/experimental purposes only."

dimitar
31st August, 2010, 05:41 PM
hello friends my experience with the solution from the first post that I was burnt MAF and the ECU during the ride sign "MAF signal plausibile. car was 307 2.0hdi rhy

The maf output signal is low current high impedance signal and the ecu input have a circuit protection. You can not burn the maf neither the ecu even if you connect them directly to ground. God knows what you actually did to burn you maf sensor and ecu.

dimitar
31st August, 2010, 05:43 PM
It is evident that the system of the alleged "MAGICIAN OF RESISTANCE" can only work with engines DW10BTED (2000 hdi 110cv) and DW12BTED (2200 HDI) that have a MAF analog, while all of the new generation engines DV4 (EUR 5) DV6 ( HDI 1600) and DW10BTED4 (2000 HDI 16V) have a MAF digital with output signsl a square wave.
Also tricking the ECU in this manner after the mileage of regular consumption of Cerina MIL light will come on anyway.

Personally I think the whole controversy made by @ rtvservis is absurd when obviously took advantage of others' work, was enough to apologize and create their own pictures.

A frequency to voltage converter will probably work ??:smokin:

rtvservis
4th September, 2010, 11:31 AM
VACH YOUTUBE

httpwww.youtube.comwatchv=9qn8UStNU7g[/QUOTE]

rtvservis
4th September, 2010, 11:37 AM
VACH YOUTUBE

httpwww.youtube.comwatchv=9qn8UStNU7g[/QUOTE]

rtvservis
4th September, 2010, 11:45 AM
:coffin:YOUTUBE 9qn8UStNU7g


This is for those who do not believe

rtvservis
4th September, 2010, 01:45 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/)


9qn8UStNU7g

johnespartan
4th September, 2010, 02:54 PM
ok, thanks

z786
4th September, 2010, 09:59 PM
iv got a 307 hdi here with blown cat
worth a try

is there any clear pictures of this mate? back of the circuit board?? thanks

rtvservis
5th September, 2010, 07:17 PM
iv got a 307 hdi here with blown cat
worth a try

is there any clear pictures of this mate? back of the circuit board?? thanks

IF CAN HELP THIS PICTURES IF NOT I WILL PUT IN ZIP FORMAT

CLEAR PICTURES

z786
5th September, 2010, 09:53 PM
you know the board you made with the resistors
can i hav a clear pic of front and back

im slightly thick when it comes to these things

rtvservis
6th September, 2010, 11:04 AM
you know the board you made with the resistors
can i hav a clear pic of front and back

im slightly thick when it comes to these things

look this pictures

servis.draza
12th November, 2010, 09:51 PM
how emulate fap on 307 1.6 hdi 2004 with ecu edc16c3???

i make dpf off with ecusafe bat every 1-2 day make white smok

engine is 9hz

sorry for my bad english
thank you

elchip
7th July, 2011, 02:33 PM
YOU NEED IS TWO SMALL RESISTOR WIRE AND THREE CONNECTIONS.
CONECT PEUGOET PLANET TO MEZURE DIFERENCIJEL PRESURE DATA.
IF DATA IS OK THE YOU DO REST OF WORK.

You can not LOSE anything if you try
IT WILL COST YOU LITTLE TIME AN 2 EURO OF PARTS.
All is not danger and OK.

Unloaded Zin: 110 kohm
Output impedance: 9.09091 kohm
Unloaded Vout: 454.545 mV

Iin: 45.4545 ?A

Max. power in R1: 206.612 ?W
Max. power in R2: 20.6612 ?W

Sensitivity of r1 on Vout: -90.1 %
Sensitivity of r2 on Vout: 90.8 %


So look these data and see no big current.

Regard's

tapiru
7th July, 2011, 10:42 PM
Thanks !!!

darwins
22nd August, 2011, 07:32 PM
Thanks rtvservis

carried out your mod, checked volts at various engine speeds, road tested and cleared the pressure sensor DTC.

I had to drive before code would clear.

Regards

Darwins

btr
23rd August, 2011, 06:04 AM
how emulate fap on 307 1.6 hdi 2004 with ecu edc16c3???

i make dpf off with ecusafe bat every 1-2 day make white smok

engine is 9hz

sorry for my bad english
thank you
Dear friend,only manual changes can do it well..emulator don't work at this enginie(edc16)Tested!:ciao:

mrjones
20th September, 2011, 12:47 AM
Dear friend,only manual changes can do it well..emulator don't work at this enginie(edc16)Tested!:ciao:

i have 307 1.6 hdi edc16c34 ecusafe no luck for me...does rtvservis signal from maf idea work with the 1.6 edc16 also ?


by manual changes do you mean the resistors work on edc16? if so is the wiring the same

eduardo74
20th September, 2011, 08:43 PM
No, will not work on 1.6hdi


i have 307 1.6 hdi edc16c34 ecusafe no luck for me...does rtvservis signal from maf idea work with the 1.6 edc16 also ?


by manual changes do you mean the resistors work on edc16? if so is the wiring the same

mrjones
20th September, 2011, 10:59 PM
ok thanks...any working solution for 1.6 edc16 ?


i have not yet turned the fap off in bsi is this a must ?

or do i need to try find a switch with damos to turn it off

anyone no the secret to it ie (flash the ecu with a no fap file from another same ecu )

tuningschool
21st September, 2011, 12:20 AM
find it with real damos and all is ok. ;)

mrjones
21st September, 2011, 01:06 AM
find it with real damos and all is ok. ;)


its mission impossible to find the damos never mind find the dpf off .. thanks anyway
easy way is for me to sell cheap and buy another car without fap