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Flash_chip
30th August, 2010, 01:05 AM
Hello,

I can not read the KM has a A3 (8L) 2003 or on the dash or on the ECU!
ECU Ref: 038906019DE is an EDC 15P+.
Ref Dash: 8L0920900M is an KOMBI + WEGFAHRS. M73 D05

I tried first with VCDS, to know the origin of KM, without result, I got an error message:
"VCDS has not been able to find a KM in this calculator.
the calculator is either unknown or does not store the KM".

then you know like me, the stores well EDC15 KM.

Then I tried with "vag k + can V1.4":
on the ECU and it found nothing on the dash, I got a message that it is connected but no information on the contents of the dash (see screem)!

I also tested with "vag eeprom V1.18":
same error message: "unknow software version"

Have you ever read or modified the KM this car?

on the one I had before I could do it without problem, it was an A3 (8L) 2000.

Thank you all

tonyadams5
30th August, 2010, 06:18 AM
Most probably the dash has been replaced to a new one. the software changes so you may need to pull apart the unit and read and write manually.

wbr

kareszka
30th August, 2010, 06:52 AM
Hello,

I can not read the KM has a A3 (8L) 2003 or on the dash or on the ECU!
ECU Ref: 038906019DE is an EDC 15P+.
Ref Dash: 8L0920900M is an KOMBI + WEGFAHRS. M73 D05

I tried first with VCDS, to know the origin of KM, without result, I got an error message:
"VCDS has not been able to find a KM in this calculator.
the calculator is either unknown or does not store the KM".

then you know like me, the stores well EDC15 KM.

Then I tried with "vag k + can V1.4":
on the ECU and it found nothing on the dash, I got a message that it is connected but no information on the contents of the dash (see screem)!

I also tested with "vag eeprom V1.18":
same error message: "unknow software version"

Have you ever read or modified the KM this car?

on the one I had before I could do it without problem, it was an A3 (8L) 2000.

Thank you all

Hi!
This is not Magnetti Marelli dash?

exe123
30th August, 2010, 09:25 AM
8L0920900M is an KOMBI + WEGFAHRS. M73 D05

M73 = Magneti Marelli

branimirj
30th August, 2010, 12:14 PM
Try with vag tacho usb.regards

Flash_chip
30th August, 2010, 11:37 PM
@ tonyadams5:

possible that a dash was changed! but it must be by the same generation (IMMO 1, 2 or 3) in this case I must be able to read and change the KM. so this is not the case.

may be that this thesis is true, but that does not explain the fact of not being able to read and change the KM in the ECU!

@ kareszka:

I can not confirm you that it's Magneti Marelli!


@ exe123:

it's Magneti Marelli? Thank you

turbo965
30th August, 2010, 11:51 PM
its a magneti with protected checksumms thats why you cant change km using the tools you have. i think they changed in 2001 sometime.

Flash_chip
31st August, 2010, 12:05 AM
its a magneti with protected checksumms thats why you cant change km using the tools you have. i think they changed in 2001 sometime.
I can believe that the dash is protected by a checksum against the change of KM, but the ECU EDC15 remains a basic, or too protected?
but it should be possible still to see the KM in the ECU with VCDS despite the checksum??

What can I use as tools to unlock the dash and the ECU reading and writing?

VDO still remain the easiest and I've never been blocked.

doxa
31st August, 2010, 12:51 AM
I can believe that the dash is protected by a checksum against the change of KM, but the ECU EDC15 remains a basic, or too protected?
but it should be possible still to see the KM in the ECU with VCDS despite the checksum??

What can I use as tools to unlock the dash and the ECU reading and writing?

VDO still remain the easiest and I've never been blocked.
A3 2004 M73 use "only" 9129S129S12X Programmer V1.54.
work very good.You hvae shema with pictures.Dont risk,with your tool.Vag tacho is very risk,after job,you have 999999.
This is the end!

Flash_chip
31st August, 2010, 01:00 AM
A3 2004 M73 use "only" 9129S129S12X Programmer V1.54.
work very good.You hvae shema with pictures.Dont risk,with your tool.Vag tacho is very risk,after job,you have 999999.
This is the end!
My A3 is a (8L) and not (8P).
now you talk of 8P.

marinero123
31st August, 2010, 08:17 AM
My A3 is a (8L) and not (8P).
now you talk of 8P.


not all ecu's from that year have stored km inside ...
maybe yours is ono of them .
please post here eeprom contents from your ecu to check it

exe123
31st August, 2010, 09:03 AM
My A3 is a (8L) and not (8P).
now you talk of 8P.

No, he is right. 9S12x Programmer from ERD-Pauli also supports old 8L MM73 dash via BDM connector. That is the safest way. There is a high right that you get 999999km via OBD.

Flash_chip
31st August, 2010, 11:48 PM
@ marinero123:

I can not post the contents of the EEPROM ECU, because I can not read! that's my problem.

@ exe123:


with 9S12x Programmer must desolder the CPU dash, I much preferred a tool OBD because I'm not too good at soldering / welding: (

I saw on the description of vag k + can V1.4, it is possible to make my A3 2003 M73!

List of vehicles covered from function odometer change via OBDII:
Audi A3 VDO/M73 up to 2003 (K)

I will try again by selecting MM on the list of Dash and I'll let you know.

the question posed is a tool with which we can make a dash M73 by OBD?
without forgetting that I did not have access to the ECU (not even consulted KM with VCDS)

marinero123
1st September, 2010, 07:17 AM
see inserted red text ....


@ marinero123:

I can not post the contents of the EEPROM ECU, because I can not read! that's my problem.

yesterday I have one of this car .... ecu don't have km stored inside ... dash was VDO and made via OBD

@ exe123:


with 9S12x Programmer must desolder the CPU dash, I much preferred a tool OBD because I'm not too good at soldering / welding: (

you can use UPA , you must solder 4 wires

I saw on the description of vag k + can V1.4, it is possible to make my A3 2003 M73!
even they say will make this dash , WILL NOT DO !!!!!
List of vehicles covered from function odometer change via OBDII:
Audi A3 VDO/M73 up to 2003 (K)

only VDO you can make with k+can 1.4

I will try again by selecting MM on the list of Dash and I'll let you know.

the question posed is a tool with which we can make a dash M73 by OBD?

maybe DIGIPROG 3 ? ENIGMA ? DATASMART ? or other ...
without forgetting that I did not have access to the ECU (not even consulted KM with VCDS)

dc2sirg
1st September, 2010, 01:56 PM
vag tacho latest and k+can latest confirmed working on usa 2000 year m73 magnetti marelli dash. latest versions though... hope this helps.

nauris
1st September, 2010, 02:11 PM
a3 from 2001/06 M73(magnetymarely) has check sum, be cerfull, you can make 999999km if check sum will be not corect!

regards

Flash_chip
1st September, 2010, 11:28 PM
vag tacho latest and k+can latest confirmed working on usa 2000 year m73 magnetti marelli dash. latest versions though... hope this helps.
especially not with the vagtacho, I read on the forum, which is obtained at 999999km tentaive dash after reading this interface.

dc2sirg
2nd September, 2010, 01:23 AM
what version of Vag tacho you using? like i said, tested, not read on forum, version 3.01. It is always possible that this dash did not have checksum, anyone know a way to tell?

Flash_chip
2nd September, 2010, 01:33 AM
what version of Vag tacho you using? like i said, tested, not read on forum, version 3.01. It is always possible that this dash did not have checksum, anyone know a way to tell?
I have no Vagtacho, I just tried to tell you that with the vagtacho I risk damaging my dash.

Flash_chip
5th September, 2010, 12:40 AM
is there a tool for change KM in dash a M73 (MM) by OBD?
I have forgotten or OBD and go to dash disassembly?

Thank you

nauris
5th September, 2010, 09:18 AM
is there a tool for change KM in dash a M73 (MM) by OBD?
I have forgotten or OBD and go to dash disassembly?

Thank you
I have DP3 and Enigma, but M73 from 2001 to 2004 I am doing with Login reader from Codecard.lt, think it is best tool for thees M73
regards

http://www.codecard.lt/immo/audi-vw/login-reader-update-for-a6-tt-magneti-marelli-crc-repair-by-diagnostic/prod_28.html

TULGEYWOODMAN
5th September, 2010, 10:39 AM
He He He

On some A3 & TT kms or miles are at different address !

When you do lots of these, you will suddenly come across 912 micro in cluster that will not read miles. This is the micro with the different mileage address.

Forget the ecu, look only in the micro.
You waste your valuable drinking time playing with the tools you have on this car.
you must be able to go direct to micro to do it
Very good luck.

Flash_chip
6th September, 2010, 06:43 PM
I made a new attempt with vag k + can, I selected Magneti Marelli on the list of instruments.

I am attaching the dumps and screems.

mlulic
6th September, 2010, 08:29 PM
You have old version vag k can comander you not reade m73 .New version reade without problem M73

Flash_chip
7th September, 2010, 11:03 PM
You have old version vag k can comander you not reade m73 .New version reade without problem M73
you have already tested vag commander a dash M73?
If yes, which version?

Thank you

mariantv
26th September, 2010, 05:51 AM
hi anyone knows how to fix vag Can comander v3, June I bought in China and worked only one day

mariantv
26th September, 2010, 05:53 AM
hi
vag can comander v3,6 not work

Flash_chip
28th January, 2011, 11:33 AM
I just got the info, this programmer 912/9S12/9S12X Programmer V1.54, works on the A3 from 2004 (8P)

Final conclusion: it is not possible to change the mileage on a kombi M73 on A3 2003 (8L).

If you have a track, I'm interested ;)

drpeter
28th January, 2011, 12:46 PM
I just got the info, this programmer 912/9S12/9S12X Programmer V1.54, works on the A3 from 2004 (8P)

Final conclusion: it is not possible to change the mileage on a kombi M73 on A3 2003 (8L).

If you have a track, I'm interested ;)

It is possible!

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f174/a3-m73-cluster-k-line-power-pinout-183291/

javilette
29th January, 2011, 03:27 AM
i have dp3 and i never have any problem whitc this car 2003 years.your interface ans software are original or clone? if you have a clone i think that it is a problem.

Flash_chip
29th January, 2011, 03:12 PM
It is possible!

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f174/a3-m73-cluster-k-line-power-pinout-183291/
I answered you on another topic

Flash_chip
29th January, 2011, 03:14 PM
i have dp3 and i never have any problem whitc this car 2003 years.your interface ans software are original or clone? if you have a clone i think that it is a problem.
yes, it's clone.
how much it costs your DP3??

javilette
29th January, 2011, 10:09 PM
12000? 5 years ago