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kanzus
30th August, 2010, 01:58 PM
Hi all,

I have a 2009 VW CRAFTER, it does not start, the key does not turn anymore in EZS.
Wen i insert key into EZS, there is a key light on dashboard.
I tryed to diagnose with VCDS 805.1, i cannot enter diagnostic (hardware and usb pots are OK).
Is it IMMO problem, any issue ??

Please Help !

Ashraf6119
30th August, 2010, 02:23 PM
Hi

VCDS will NOT communicate with any of the Modules on This Vehicle as Crafter is Mercedes Benz system and NOT Vag System.

The red light signify that you have a Immobiliser Fault.

Try another key if you have also check all fuses and connection.

What is the story ? any repair work done on it recently.

Ash

kanzus
30th August, 2010, 02:48 PM
Hi

VCDS will NOT communicate with any of the Modules on This Vehicle as Crafter is Mercedes Benz system and NOT Vag System.

The red light signify that you have a Immobiliser Fault.

Try another key if you have also check all fuses and connection.

What is the story ? any repair work done on it recently.

Ash

Thanks for info, this is very intersting.
No repair done on it.

I have MB tools, as Rosfar/Omega programmer and DAS/Xentry .., is there any solution to recover immo, caus i m VW newbee.

Thanks.

Ashraf6119
30th August, 2010, 03:04 PM
Hi

Try going under MB-Sprinter software and read the fault.

Hope this helps

Ash

mercis
30th August, 2010, 04:41 PM
your elv damage,newsprinter and crafter have this
trouble

kanzus
31st August, 2010, 08:27 AM
your elv damage,newsprinter and crafter have this
trouble

After testing all fuses ok, I hooked MB DAS/Xentry into OBD connector and try Sprinter 906 Menu: Connection OK.
EZS 906 545 26 08 responds well and i can enter its coding menu.
But when try to enter Instrument Cluster or ESL (=ELV Electronic Steering Lock) menu --> connection problem report, that means there is a problem with ELV.

I will try a new ELV, should I either delete start error fom EZS using immo off soft like (ImmoKi**er)?

Thanks

Dajan2009
31st August, 2010, 09:10 AM
If you have a new ELV try to put it on the car(van). You don't need do alter anything about immo.

kanzus
31st August, 2010, 02:17 PM
If you have a new ELV try to put it on the car(van). You don't need do alter anything about immo.

Do you have any solution to take ELV off steering column, even if Steering Wheel is locked ??

kanzus
31st August, 2010, 10:49 PM
Do you have any solution to take ELV off steering column, even if Steering Wheel is locked ??

ELV does not repond, how can I take it out from steering column to replace it, column is locked, please help.

scoot
1st September, 2010, 12:09 AM
m8 came across fault similar to yours. idident find the fault myself but the owner told me the dealers replaced 2 relays under the bonnet apparantly its a comon fault. i hope this helps you

kanzus
1st September, 2010, 01:35 PM
m8 came across fault similar to yours. idident find the fault myself but the owner told me the dealers replaced 2 relays under the bonnet apparantly its a comon fault. i hope this helps you
Hi, thanks for Reply.

I tested all Fuses and Relay, all is OK.
There is 12v arriving to ELV Plug, so Relay conduct current well.

Does anybody pull off Locked ELV (ESL) from streering column ??
Please help !

Dajan2009
1st September, 2010, 09:24 PM
Try this way http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/mercedes-c200-cdi-2003-non-igntion-73591/index2.html#post376382. You woul be suprised how oten it just need just few moderate hammer hits to make him unlock. It is seized and it probably loosed contact inside. Try it.
Cheers

kanzus
4th September, 2010, 06:14 PM
Try this way http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/mercedes-c200-cdi-2003-non-igntion-73591/index2.html#post376382. You woul be suprised how oten it just need just few moderate hammer hits to make him unlock. It is seized and it probably loosed contact inside. Try it.
Cheers
I hooked new ESL But nothing happen, key do not turn in EZS.
Here is binfile and photos.
hope you can help me.

kanzus
4th September, 2010, 09:37 PM
I hooked new ESL But nothing happen, key do not turn in EZS.
Here is binfile and photos.
hope you can help me.
EZS 9065452608
906 545 26 08 WITH 9S12
ESL - ELV : NEC A2C-52727 - 009E3201

Any ideas ??

mercis
5th September, 2010, 05:42 AM
have you new evl personalised and activated?
you can read with star evl data

kanzus
5th September, 2010, 01:31 PM
have you new evl personalised and activated?
you can read with star evl data

Cannot read ELV with Star Diag. cannot enter its menu.

mercis
5th September, 2010, 02:32 PM
i work with DAS 2010,3
on EIS diag can i EVL data see

kanzus
5th September, 2010, 06:09 PM
i work with DAS 2010,3
on EIS diag can i EVL data see
I work with DAS 2009, I can enter EZS menu, but EVL, Intrument Cluster are not possible to enter.
I think it is CAN communication problem, S should I reflash EZS with 9S12 dump for 906 545 26 08.

Is there someone can provide me dump for This EZS Please ?

kanzus
7th September, 2010, 01:46 PM
Today I changed new EZS I bought from VW dealer, nothing happens, key do not turn in EZS when attempt to start. Still same symptoms.

I changed EZS and ELV right now and I'm still in step 0.

Please help.

Loaded
7th September, 2010, 02:55 PM
VAS PC from V17 have menu specific to Crafter, it is working fine. I have coded new key using VAG Commander though.
Why are you not telling us fault codes? Yes steering lock is common fault but always can be repaired. it'Is a waist of money just repalcing steering lock without diagnose !

kanzus
7th September, 2010, 03:35 PM
VAS PC from V17 have menu specific to Crafter, it is working fine. I have coded new key using VAG Commander though.
Why are you not telling us fault codes? Yes steering lock is common fault but always can be repaired. it'Is a waist of money just repalcing steering lock without diagnose !

I cannot read steering column fault code, IC either: communication problem.
Fault Code in EZS says: "ELV/MRM in a stress".

kanzus
9th September, 2010, 04:22 PM
VAS PC from V17 have menu specific to Crafter, it is working fine. I have coded new key using VAG Commander though.
Why are you not telling us fault codes? Yes steering lock is common fault but always can be repaired. it'Is a waist of money just repalcing steering lock without diagnose !

Do you know if I can use 805.1 cable with VAS-PC or VAG COMMANDER Please ?

JIMMYQ
14th June, 2011, 11:24 PM
anyone know how to repair the ezs unit i have a merc sprinter which is same unit as a crafter bba reman offer a repair service thought id ask here before sending the unit off to them ?

its not unlocking the steering nor does the ignition come on :( mercedes sprinter 2007

JIMMYQ
22nd June, 2011, 01:36 PM
Today I changed new EZS I bought from VW dealer, nothing happens, key do not turn in EZS when attempt to start. Still same symptoms.

I changed EZS and ELV right now and I'm still in step 0.

Please help.

did you manage to fix this problem? i also changed ezs unit still same problem have not changed elv as yet just seeing if there is a cure i tried the hammer but no luck

kool_mi
28th June, 2011, 12:57 PM
just change the motor of esl
fault in esl not ezs

Dajan2009
29th June, 2011, 09:52 PM
OK guys, is there any of you that still believe the fault is in EZS?
One more time, fault is in ELV, change it with a new one, or just change his Electromotor.
Cheers

JIMMYQ
30th June, 2011, 11:28 AM
hi thanks guys changed the esl now all working again thanks!

bursuc
16th January, 2012, 09:15 AM
Worked , with HAMMER JOB :))) i will open the ESL and check the problems inside

lashkar97
16th January, 2012, 11:11 AM
u read the data of EZS post here than i can give u sloution

digitaloz
3rd January, 2015, 12:58 PM
Hi DK Gurus

Got a VW CRAFTER 08 all keys lost. Got new keys from dealer, they cant program them in, I have tried to prepare key with ZED full and ID48 transponder still key does not turn. Also programmed with FVDI and new transponder still no joy. I have got the pin code and tried with VCDS still no joy.

Do these dumps go corrupt?
Here is my EZS dump

lupu_sandu
3rd January, 2015, 01:00 PM
If key came from dealer, you don't need to precode this.
Also VCDS can learn keys in this car.

ttzag
3rd January, 2015, 01:26 PM
Hi DK Gurus

Got a VW CRAFTER 08 all keys lost. Got new keys from dealer, they cant program them in, I have tried to prepare key with ZED full and ID48 transponder still key does not turn. Also programmed with FVDI and new transponder still no joy. I have got the pin code and tried with VCDS still no joy.

Do these dumps go corrupt?
Here is my EZS dump
I think your dump is good and your pin
06952

sent from LG_G2

digitaloz
3rd January, 2015, 01:58 PM
This is the thing VW dealer cant program them, I got the same pin 06952 the EZS just wont accept any key. If im using just a transponder should it be ID48 or ID48 can?

Thanks Guys

audivwauto
3rd January, 2015, 03:38 PM
I had a 2007 crafter a while ago and used tango generated a file used a TP23 can bus

digitaloz
3rd January, 2015, 03:41 PM
So maybe im using wrong transponder? So ID48 no good I need a ID48 vw can

audivwauto
4th January, 2015, 07:47 AM
use tango makes image file with tp23 canbus

digitaloz
4th January, 2015, 11:12 AM
I dont have tango. So if i get a can bus vw id48 and adapt with vcds I should be fine?

lupu_sandu
4th January, 2015, 12:01 PM
No, you need to have ID48 CAN precoded on 7th bytes component security.
On your dump is see:
CS: AA 75 54 A5 D6 03 B4
PIN: 06952