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z786
14th September, 2010, 08:24 PM
Hi i have a Transporter here, owner put bad fuel in there (red diesel) and now it doesnt start, any ideas?

ps.fuel is coming to the front fine

005687 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from Electric Load Controller
P1637 - 000 - - - Intermittent

000665 - Boost Pressure Regulation: Control Range Not Reached
P0299 - 000 - - - MIL ON

000773 - Cylinder 5: Misfire Detected

Meat-Head
14th September, 2010, 08:29 PM
THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THESE - sorry caps lock.

Not sure 100%

a) check service history for oil changes
b) Not sure if it's these where the sideward facing foo-foo valves seize SOLID
c) Does it turns over, like GRR-GRR or wwhhhiiizzzzzzzzzzzz?
hAD ONE WHERE lack of oil changes wore out the lumpystick, no lobes
to open the valves lol

z786
14th September, 2010, 09:07 PM
it turns over, like it wants to start, but i reckon its fuel related because wen i keep cranking the oil pressure light comes on

what are the pumps like on these?

Liteace
14th September, 2010, 09:12 PM
Hi i have a Transporter here, owner put bad fuel in there (red diesel) and now it doesnt start, any ideas?

ps.fuel is coming to the front fine

005687 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from Electric Load Controller
P1637 - 000 - - - Intermittent

000665 - Boost Pressure Regulation: Control Range Not Reached
P0299 - 000 - - - MIL ON

000773 - Cylinder 5: Misfire Detected

Maybe just maybe codes have appeared due to low bat when trying to start it, or:

18045/P1637/005687 - Ross-Tech Wiki (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/18045/P1637/005687)

16683/P0299/000665 - Ross-Tech Wiki (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16683/P0299/000665)

16689/P0305/000773 - Ross-Tech Wiki (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16689/P0305/000773)

Meat-Head
14th September, 2010, 09:39 PM
it turns over, like it wants to start, but i reckon its fuel related because wen i keep cranking the oil pressure light comes on

what are the pumps like on these?

a) still not in the mood - for reference purposes look for honda non start thread by japn - the you tube vid, watch for reference and answer ya or nay

b) oil pressure light, suggest

1) crank long time - not 'enough' oil pressure to keep the 2 switches
happy

2) no rpm signal - clocks thingking ~~~~ put the oil light on

b) pump - no idea - suggest you put a new fuel filter in if no body
can 'prove' evidence of been changed, they ~~~~ around if not changed - guessing it doesn't have the 'silly clip on the fuel filter?

even less in the mood, going for a bath - soon

m3vuv
14th September, 2010, 09:43 PM
Oil light on when cranking!!,that to me says no presure,if i remember these are hydraulic cam followes on these.ie are the valves opening fully due to low oil pressure,maybe oil diluted with fuel and turned to pisswater ?,cheers Paul.

z786
15th September, 2010, 04:27 PM
Oil is perfect but changed it anyway
changed oil and fuel filter

still no start, any other ideas, i reckon it definitely fuel related but cant figure out where the fcuker has got the problem

foxtec800
15th September, 2010, 04:33 PM
did it have prior issues of smoky exhaust?
have had a few were pump starts to fail mixes oil with fuel and burns the oil if driven for long enough after that pump dies completely

Meat-Head
15th September, 2010, 06:17 PM
changed fuel filter

still no start, any other ideas,

a) did it stop, or just non start
b) triey putting the airline in the fuel thank, not sure the excact figure
NOR CAN REMBER USER NAME BUT somebody said carfefull with airline in tank, kaboom.
c) Does you get ANY smoke out the exhaust? - color?

Have you tried sniffing Easy Start, or brake cleaner - gives you a bit of a
head ache after a while.

What about engine spped in live data?

z786
15th September, 2010, 07:04 PM
no prior issues, i got the story outta customer
he bought a barrel of diesel off sum1
he put it in the tank, car while running conked out

the fuel does come to the front so the airline wont make a difference

it also doesnt start on easy start, just splutters for a second

Meat-Head
15th September, 2010, 07:10 PM
it also doesnt start on easy start, just splutters for a second

That would suggest the cambelt and/or chain has gone, or no oil pressure to open the lifters under the lumpy stick.

Suggest oil pressure, or more lack of - charge him for what you have done and ~~~~ it off.

could be something daft that has caused 'internal bleeding' of oil pressure.

Put an external oil pressure gauge on it, and set fire to it.

m3vuv
15th September, 2010, 09:15 PM
Drain the fuel put some fresh fuel in it then tow it and see if it starts,if not burn the bastard!!

z786
15th September, 2010, 10:14 PM
i was gna tow it, i usually do, but its an AUTO, peice of shit

m3vuv
15th September, 2010, 10:38 PM
Just burn it then lol.

the_riddler
16th September, 2010, 01:03 AM
i was gna tow it, i usually do, but its an AUTO, peice of shit

This may be silly question but have you completely removed the "old" fuel..

gofo
16th September, 2010, 05:54 AM
I think you need to check the injectors of the car!
it might has been damaged while putting the wrong fuell in the car!!!

Meat-Head
16th September, 2010, 08:05 AM
i was gna tow it, i usually do, but its an AUTO, peice of shit

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/81877-meat-head/albums/just-testing-see-if-works/3810-pissingwind.gif

a) Tow to 28 MPH select D - this will properbly destroy the box first
but should in thoery work - if the box isn't destroyed first
b) look for the 'honda non start ' thread by japn and view the you tube video for reference - and does it smoke the same?

c) Exhaust blocked

d) Temp sender saying it's hot - no choke

e) If won't go on easy start

1) not enough, by time gone through turbo

2) It's ~~~~ed

remove intake manifold pipe and easys tart WHILST CRANKING ONLY
and put a rag in the air inlet from the turbo as no load on turbo 200000000000 repm rpm and goress bang

late for work

Meat-Head
25th November, 2010, 09:28 PM
bump spam, can you tell what it is yet?

adam28
26th November, 2010, 07:32 PM
bump spam, can you tell what it is yet?

Here you go Meaty YouTube - Rolf Harris - Cartoon Time - 1980s

Meat-Head
26th November, 2010, 07:59 PM
Here you go Meaty YouTube - Rolf Harris - Cartoon Time - 1980s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0HQOB7UvEw)

So we will have to wait for Z to comffirm, it was a pig then? :roflmao:

Oh Z what are them numbers on your siggy?