Remote Tester

[JIMMYQ]

hi guys can anyone recommend a good remote tester? are there any about that can also test the coil in the ignition too?

prefer something that you have tried and happy with :)
i need to get one but want something half decent
cheers

[kingkey]

hi , i have a draper one , never lets me down , but only shows if the remote is transmitting , it turns itself off automatically too.
i also have one from advanced diagnostics which also tests the immo coil , the only fault with it for me is , the battery is always flat because i never switch it off as i am used to the draper , not a fault of AD , still , it pisses me off every time i try to use it

[ray-ray]

here to check remote cost $100.00 usa made in china.you can make your own coil tester (need coil and led and a cap). you can make your own with no power source.it works like a magnet,the ariel power up and your side with the coil will pull and light up the led.(easy design)

[Recoder]

hi , i have a draper one , never lets me down , but only shows if the remote is transmitting , it turns itself off automatically too.
i also have one from advanced diagnostics which also tests the immo coil , the only fault with it for me is , the battery is always flat because i never switch it off as i am used to the draper , not a fault of AD , still , it pisses me off every time i try to use it

I agree the AD35 meets all your requirements mate .
Also agree that i leave the tester on and run the battery out too.

There approx ?75 in the Uk .

[Fallen]

+1 for the unit ray-ray posted, mine works well and it can also clone non rolling remotes. They still update the machine too.

Can you show me a picture of the coil tester?
I have ZERO understanding of electrical principles unfortunately and have to see pictures.

Cheers

[JIMMYQ]

been looking at the ad35 i think that sounds good if it does what it says on the tin

[Bishop c4]

hi guys can anyone recommend a good remote tester? are there any about that can also test the coil in the ignition too?

prefer something that you have tried and happy with :)
i need to get one but want something half decent
cheers

Hello I use the keylessride remote tester KR-9424 exelent tool very cheap (40 bucks i think thath cost to me)
but if you are interesting in any more pro I put a brochure for you http://www.jovanlock.com/downloads/Jovan-KR_Brochure-Feb2009.pdf

Regards

[Meat-Head]

Can you show me a picture of the coil tester?
I have ZERO understanding of electrical principles unfortunately and have to see pictures.

Cheers



OFF TOPIC: - BUT RELEVENT

How Does a Transfomer Work? (http://www.energyquest.ca.gov/how_it_works/transformer.html)

Your chip is on the end of the winding, which transmit the security code back to the car

LOVE DK LONG TIME

[adam28]

Meaty, you got it wrong mate. This is how a transformer works. Watch whole video lol

YouTube - Transformers Stop-Motion Bumblebee beats Optimus Prime

[JIMMYQ]

that is definately and transformer mate.....pmsl...;)

[Fallen]

Thanks MH.

So let me get this right, I have a coil of wire with the two ends free. I join wire end 1 to leg 1 of the LED, leg 2 gets connected to leg 1 of the capacitor and leg 2 of the capacitor gets joined to wire end 2?

I hope my amateurish drawing does not offend any of you hard core electrical nerds!

[ray-ray]

you got it and battery less (works like a magnet,it power up the led).just try to figure out how many turns of wire you need to get a good "Q" factor.put your cap to get it into range 134.2khz.i'll show you mine ,key chain design.

[Fallen]

Thanks ray-ray. You may have to dumb this down for me, I have no idea what a "Q" factor is or how to get a cap range of 134.2khz!

Can you do me a closeup of your one please.

What sot of cap should I use, they come in a lot of different sizes I think.
I was also going to use an arial off an old ad900 I had laying around.

[ray-ray]

a chrysler rhk has cap and coil ,for a mini (key chain).you can use the ariel off a chrysler to fit around the ignation.(slip over the ford ears and other makes)."Q" factor antenas strength not range.

[Fallen]

I found this, this is what we are talking about right?

YouTube - Wireless Power Transfer Project

I can't see the cap in this guys leds, just the coil.
How do you know how many turns of wire you have to do over the steel bobbin as i'm guessing this is the "Q" factor?
How do you measure the "Q" factor?

Q = Qe (1 + Cd/C)
where Cd = Distributed capacitance
and C = Tuning Capacitance


Is kicking my arse!

[ray-ray]

if no cap it will work but open field your cell phone might set it off or anything in that open range .

[cqae]

i have a cheap solution, I use a min frequency counter for testing & tuning, only about 60-70 bucks worth just place the remote on top and press the button & it comes up with a frequency reading.
and another unit that gives me a weak, ok, strong reading, between the 2 i can test most.
and the mobile phone trick for infra-reds.

I can post some pics if anyone in interested.

and as far as the coil testing, I usually just do a resistance check, have tried scoping them too

[Meat-Head]

Just for reference an aftermarket transponder immoboliser has a rating of "2.3 Gnomes":roflmao: Tried out of curisoty with a 10nf cap and a 100uf cap - nil poi.

What might work is an INDUCTIVE abs sensor, with said cap and led on it.
As these have like 1000000000 miles of wire OR the transponder pickup off a reno megraine or something.

There is an unconfirmed rumor going around Meat-City that about 11/12 years ago some dumb~~~~ body worker damaged a transponder loop
on a BRAND NEW Reno - accident damaged, fitting new hair-bag.

The one and only cure was to roll out the wire approx 20 meters, re wind it, resolder, cross fingers, kick some dumbasses arse

This might be a good thing as well.

coulsd do with some metal in it as well??!!

[cqae]

he lost count half way & had to start again I heard meat head

When I test them I use a scope to measure the output signal of the coil. It will pulse for about a 1/4 of a second with what is similar to a sine wave pattern

[Meat-Head]

Appoligises for being so DENSE and forgetting to mention this:-

THIS MIGHT NOT WORK, BEFORE YOU WINGE

Just a thought, not sure about other members eg Fallen in Austraila
but next time you are out on the pish, take a few black dustbin bags with you, grab a few of the solar powered garden lights that Polish peole have just look for the LARGE satalite dishs.

Open them up, and you will see a 'green resistor' this is called an inductor, NOT a resitor, never smashed one open, but it's a coil of wire, try experimenting, with them, see if you antenna loop, abs sensor etc, and/or with/without, see if it makes a differqance to the brightness of the led. Near a working transponder loop, take note of model/year of car

DO NOT look directly into the beam of led as word on street is that they damage your eyes

THIS MIGHT NOT WORK, BEFORE YOU WINGE

[adam28]

next time you are out on the pish, take a few black dustbin bags with youWOW Meaty, this takes me back abit, but as the old saying goes. "you dont look at the mantelpiece when your poking the fire" lol

[Meat-Head]

WOW Meaty, this takes me back abit, but as the old saying goes. "you dont look at the mantelpiece when your poking the fire" lol

*CONFUSED*

No idea if will work, but worth a try

[adam28]

*CONFUSED*

No idea if will work, but worth a try

Bin liner on the head of the ugly tart you pull whilst on the p!ss Blah blah blah.

Anyways iv had to much RED wine

:vollkommenauf: Back on topic lol

[Meat-Head]

Bin liner on the head of the ugly tart you pull whilst on the p!ss Blah blah blah.

Anyways iv had to much RED wine

:vollkommenauf: Back on topic lol

Ah with you. The idea is so when the Polish people look out their windows, they don't see 'floating lights'

[Fallen]

WOW Meaty, this takes me back abit, but as the old saying goes. "you dont look at the mantelpiece when your poking the fire" lol

We refer to this type of woman as a "double bagger".
One bag for her head and one bag for your head, incase her's falls off!

[ray-ray]

here is a obd2 tester check power threw the port and a coil detecter no power needed. look fallen get the idea?

[Meat-Head]

here is a obd2 tester check power threw the port and a coil detecter no power needed. look fallen get the idea?

What does that do? Instrument of tourture? Where can we download

Noyice 10,00000000 millions turns of THIN wire

[Fallen]

Yup I get the idea. Now all we need is a dumbed down way to check the "Q" rating and I will be a happy camper!

[thelockkid]

i definately also recommend the the draper one as it tests RF and infa-red

never let me down either :)

[Bishop c4]

the "europroben" post for Ray-Ray have his origins in mexico and works ok, is more easy and cheaper buy it than made it

[ray-ray]

do you have source i'm looking for the white one coil detecter (martillo).

[Bishop c4]

do you have source i'm looking for the white one coil detecter (martillo).

I got the info.
I have the white?s one too.

Best Regards.

[Bishop c4]

this is the info I hope it help anything else let me know

[MASTERLOCK]

i made it and works fine.only take an antenna coil from a car(used) my is from fiat panda and you cut the two wires put a led at the wires and thats it, you have got coil detector.icant put photos

[Fallen]

Tried to make one today. Made the loop about 15mm accross, did about 30 turns of .3 copper wire, soldered a LED in and it didn't work! The copper wire was coated (except for the 2 ends).
I then soldered the LED onto an old ad900 loop I had spare, and it worked. the loop was egg shaped and sized.
I'm guessing 15mm was too small?

[Meat-Head]

.
I then soldered the LED onto an old ad900 loop I had spare, and it worked. the loop was egg shaped and sized.
I'm guessing 15mm was too small?

can you upload phooto?
got fiat loop in pocket led next too it, 10 sec job, but been BUSY at M-H-M

[JIMMYQ]

i bought the ad35 from hickleys works wonders :)

[ray-ray]

your bunny dies with the battery goes dead,are keeps running..................

[Meat-Head]

i made it and works fine.only take an antenna coil from a car(used) my is from fiat panda and you cut the two wires put a led at the wires and thats it,

CONFIRMED - LOVE YOU LONG-TIME
cORSA-C, VW Sharan, Citreon Xsara



your bunny dies with the battery goes dead,are keeps running..................

Not just me that talks in riddels

[Fallen]

I got mine to work on the zedbull but couldn't get it to work on my car ignition! Bastard!

Sorry for the shitty quality photo's. I will get my real camera out if you want a better look.

[Meat-Head]

Fallen *TRY* wrapping some normal wire to \hold' it together see if acts as a metal core.

the Fiat loop, work and love long-ime

[Recoder]

Just a quick one JimmyQ .
Does yours make a beep when you fire a key at it or just freq display.
Also when you toggle on/off switch on ign is it just a beep or do you get a indicator on the display also .
I think the instructions are a bit out of it???.

[JIMMYQ]

Just a quick one JimmyQ .
Does yours make a beep when you fire a key at it or just freq display.
Also when you toggle on/off switch on ign is it just a beep or do you get a indicator on the display also .
I think the instructions are a bit out of it???.

hi mate if you put the key near the bottom right hand corner it shows you the frequency once you press the button on the remote

it only beeps when you place the top left near the ignition and turn the key to tell you the coil is ok thats about it really mate :)

[MASTERLOCK]

i have this from ignition coil of fiat panda

34966

34967

[Recoder]

Yep thats what mine does but in the Manual its says it beeps when codefreq read and also display shows when held near the ant .
thanks for confirming mine is as it is .

Good tool though aint they.

[Fallen]

Thanks masterlock, does it light up when you put it next to a car ignition?
I got mine to work off the zedbull but not on an actual car.

I'm guessing the ignition has to be on for the coil to be powered.

[Meat-Head]

that fiat loop seemed to work on most cars, but will say think it was ford had to put it real close - just flashes few seconds - bright then goes out

[Fallen]

Ok, I gave up making one and used an Astra ignition ariel, works like a charm.
When you test it on an ignition,press the reader right up against the car ignition and pass the key through the centre of the ring.
If it's the right key it will flash briefly.
If it's the wrong key, it will continue to flash.

Tested this on a Toyota.

[Meat-Head]

Ok, I gave up making one and used an Astra ignition ariel, works like a charm.
.

I is assuming when you say 'astra' as in vauxhall/opel - or some aussie crap?

Just a though and for reference

What we do at M-H-M is every time a car comes in that we are struggling
with - can't find fault, can't get bits etc.

What we do is wait untill another model the same comes, in, flick the transponder out the key, superglue to the backside of the barrell.

We did have a wipermotor on a cutting rig that we gained out of a puncar-park - but easy come, easy go, we left in a pub car park!

So we just go to the local market and get the key duplicated onto a metal blank.

Ask the punter of the second car for name/address and that solves the problem of parts for the first car.

BUT we have NOT managed to do this with a BMW yet - chip has to be
on the 'inside' of the transponder loop

[Fallen]

You guys have Astra's, we have Astra's.
Yours are made by Opel, ours are still made by Opel but we had the great idea to pull off the Opel badge and stick on a Holden Badge (apparently this makes the car handle better).

Have you had the pleasure of working on a HOLDEN Monaro yet MH?
How dare you pull off our badge and put a Vauxhall badge on it!
And then you go and improve it with your superchargery witchcraft.
I bet you would all float if thrown in a river.

I have come to the conclusion that if I ever break down outside M-H-H, I would prefer to push my car home than let your dodgy gits play with my sideways facing foo foo valve!

[Meat-Head]

Have you had the pleasure of working on a HOLDEN Monaro yet MH?

I have come to the conclusion that if I ever break down outside M-H-H, I would prefer to push my car home than let your dodgy gits play with my sideways facing foo foo valve!


NOPE, never seen one either, nor want to.

YUCK any on them 'super cars' are bags of crap, you can't see what your crashing into, you can't see where you have been, they all could do with a 'crawler gear' - mainley for kerb crawing, but also to give it some control, for parking etc.

Have you ever worked on ONE of the last ever handbuilt Astin Martins?
TVR, Massrati, Lotus. There all piles of crap, you ALWAYS get a lungfull of fiberglass

There ALL pieces of crap. Like these

Opel Omega - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_Omega)

You can't get at things



CHEECK.

M-H-M have a reputation you know. A website as well (that's crap)
We are regetard with 'Trading Standards' and the local fuzz

[Fallen]

Nah, it's not hand built mate, we have robots that make our cars.

Check it out.


YouTube - Top Gear - Vauxhall (Holden) VXR8 Bathurst and Maloo VXR reviews

[Meat-Head]

yeah what ever, Evo and a Pug had not heard the sound.

Fiat loop and led is latest party trick now

[Meat-Head]

i made it and works fine.only take an antenna coil from a car(used) my is from fiat panda and you cut the two wires put a led at the wires and thats it, you have got coil detector.


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