View Full Version : Convert NEC Ir Key Dump to Motorola 657.880.041
dragomirg
12th October, 2010, 03:35 PM
Hi,
I am trying to make a key for a CLK W208. The car has 2 keys and they both stopped working. I have generated a dump for a NEC key, but the owner of the car has big old Motorola keys and I want to use them, if possible. On the Motorola key is written: 657.880.041
Could someone please help me to convert the dump from the NEC key to the Motorola format? If necessary I will upload the EZS dumps as well.
nothing
12th October, 2010, 04:10 PM
see the attachment
dragomirg
13th October, 2010, 07:41 AM
see the attachment
Thanks, but did not work.
Anyone else has any idea how to do that?
vanos batam
13th October, 2010, 12:35 PM
Thanks, but did not work.
Anyone else has any idea how to do that?
hi try it.need 021 E6
if not working post all dump here..
dragomirg
13th October, 2010, 01:23 PM
hi try it.need 021 E6
if not working post all dump here..
Thanks, if it is easier for you here are the EZS dumps as well.
I will try your dump right now and let you know.
MJPOWER
13th October, 2010, 01:54 PM
Thanks, if it is easier for you here are the EZS dumps as well.
I will try your dump right now and let you know.
Hello,M8
As i checked the problem in EIS dump so just program these EZS dumps back to EZS and use your Key4 dump it should work.
Regards
MJPOWER
dragomirg
13th October, 2010, 03:04 PM
Thanks, but I already tried Vanos Batam's solution and it worked great!
:congrats:
vanos batam
14th October, 2010, 05:26 AM
thats all.............................
papalos_
27th October, 2010, 10:07 PM
I have calculate new chrome keys for W210. I want to convert the key2 to program an old motorola key. I've try swapping data as described on #2 post but the key is not working. When i program the files on new chrome keys they are working, but I want to use the motorola keys also.
Any advice?
Best Regards
daniel sg
28th October, 2010, 12:08 AM
thats all.............................
Yes right Vanos....!
021 and 041. Are same..
:congrats:
papalos_
28th October, 2010, 12:13 AM
Yes right Vanos....!
021 and 041. Are same..
:congrats:
Can you explain that to me mate?
What do I need to change in dump?
vanos batam
28th October, 2010, 03:02 AM
Can you explain that to me mate?
What do I need to change in dump?
donot anything
just use my soft
papalos_
28th October, 2010, 07:50 AM
donot anything
just use my soft
Thanks Vanos.
Where is your software?:ridinghorse:
emtec3
28th October, 2010, 08:22 AM
Help to translate from 51 in 41 key
vanos batam
28th October, 2010, 08:34 AM
Help to translate from 51 in 41 key
try ...........
papalos_
28th October, 2010, 07:28 PM
donot anything
just use my soft
The motorola key is not working again Vanos...
I noticed that when I write NEC file to motorola key, the EZS(on the first time) turns on and the red LED on key is blinking all the time. When I remove the key and reinsert it's not wotking anymore.
vanos batam
29th October, 2010, 02:57 AM
The motorola key is not working again Vanos...
I noticed that when I write NEC file to motorola key, the EZS(on the first time) turns on and the red LED on key is blinking all the time. When I remove the key and reinsert it's not wotking anymore.
post more keys
papalos_
29th October, 2010, 07:03 AM
post more keys
Here you are :wavey:
vanos batam
29th October, 2010, 07:06 AM
Here you are :wavey:
you want to write E6 keys, nec to E6?
or what? i didnt get..
papalos_
29th October, 2010, 07:15 AM
you want to write E6 keys, nec to E6?
or what? i didnt get..
If Ε6 is old big motorola keys, yes!
I want to write one nec key and one motorola.
I've already write a nec key and it's working, but motorola is not working.
vanos batam
29th October, 2010, 07:33 AM
If Ε6 is old big motorola keys, yes!
I want to write one nec key and one motorola.
I've already write a nec key and it's working, but motorola is not working.
better PM me
and which number keys already write then which number keys you want
cammy25
29th October, 2010, 07:40 AM
Are you sure swapping like this doesnt work??
ARe you also sure that ELV/ESM is renewed or programmed with right keys?
else try this dump.
vanos batam
29th October, 2010, 07:44 AM
Are you sure swapping like this doesnt work??
ARe you also sure that ELV/ESM is renewed or programmed with right keys?
else try this dump.
what you want to do??
vanos batam
29th October, 2010, 10:13 AM
If Ε6 is old big motorola keys, yes!
I want to write one nec key and one motorola.
I've already write a nec key and it's working, but motorola is not working.
hi palos..try..........
cammy25
29th October, 2010, 12:59 PM
@ BAMOS FATASS:reddy:
did i talk to you?????????
NO!
so why dont you stay there in your shithole and try not to spam this forum.
More than half of your posts are shit. You can't even communicate with people.
so get off my back and ~~~~ off.
papalos_
29th October, 2010, 03:55 PM
Are you sure swapping like this doesnt work??
ARe you also sure that ELV/ESM is renewed or programmed with right keys?
else try this dump.
I've try this already mate, but it don't work.
daniel sg
29th October, 2010, 04:10 PM
I've try this already mate, but it don't work.
Hi . Sorry.
I interested in this forum.
I try your dump with motorola inside. It working good to 021 and 041.
papalos_
29th October, 2010, 04:15 PM
Hi . Sorry.
I interested in this forum.
I try your dump with motorola inside. It working good to 021 and 041.
Did you try that on bench or on a car?
I tried it on bench and it's not working. Only NEC keys are working.
daniel sg
29th October, 2010, 04:31 PM
Did you try that on bench or on a car?
I tried it on bench and it's not working. Only NEC keys are working.
Hi..
I try it on table. Need keep in to ezs for learning 10 to 15 sc.
More time the esl wil unlock and key can work.
papalos_
29th October, 2010, 04:35 PM
Hi..
I try it on table. Need keep in to ezs for learning 10 to 15 sc.
More time the esl wil unlock and key can work.
I try to write swapped files again. Thanks.
The NEC keys are working immediately.
daniel sg
29th October, 2010, 04:54 PM
I try to write swapped files again. Thanks.
The NEC keys are working immediately.
Hi.
I think you must see.which one key number already used.
When you write back to key them files. EZS will blocked all number of keys.
papalos_
29th October, 2010, 05:08 PM
Hi.
I think you must see.which one key number already used.
When you write back to key them files. EZS will blocked all number of keys.
I don't understand.
The key that's is working is key1 NEC based.
I've just write key2 on motorola based key and it's not working again. I've try
a. swapped data
b. 14 EC at the end but nothing
milanovic
29th October, 2010, 05:18 PM
Did you try that on bench or on a car?
I tried it on bench and it's not working. Only NEC keys are working.
Hi. Mate..why it work with 011 big key.but you told it work with 021 and 041.
milanovic
29th October, 2010, 05:20 PM
I don't understand.
The key that's is working is key1 NEC based.
I've just write key2 on motorola based key and it's not working again. I've try
a. swapped data
b. 14 EC at the end but nothing
Hi. Try with 011
daniel sg
29th October, 2010, 05:23 PM
Hi. Mate..why it work with 011 big key.but you told it work with 021 and 041.
I don't know abt it.
Just test this file.
papalos_
29th October, 2010, 05:28 PM
Ι write a 2nd chrome key with key2 file and it works. What the hell is up with motorols keys?
Hi. Try with 011
Can you be more specific? How to create 11 format key?
cammy25
29th October, 2010, 07:07 PM
its a bit confusing..
but those are just the last 3 numbers of partnumber.
So i guess that the ROM in motorola is different. Its not possible to program that in other key, because its read only.
The only way is to read the eeprom of the not working ones and try to see difference. maybe if you program it with these made dumps you corrupt it.
myself i dont see the use of it. Most people want to convert from big key to small key and especially chrome. This way the swap trick always works.
bali motor
29th October, 2010, 07:13 PM
use this soft, for know what type file key..
this soft for file key motorolla, but can swap to file nec.
papalos_
30th October, 2010, 08:45 PM
use this soft, for know what type file key..
this soft for file key motorolla, but can swap to file nec.
May I ask something? Maybe stupid question, what is the purpose of that software?
With that soft, is it possible to create keys without modify EZS? With password and ssid from EZS only?
I notice that it creates always the same key when password and ssid are the same even if select a key file I've already made or start from zero and creating key by entering ssid and password.
bali motor
30th October, 2010, 10:21 PM
May I ask something? Maybe stupid question, what is the purpose of that software?
With that soft, is it possible to create keys without modify EZS? With password and ssid from EZS only?
I notice that it creates always the same key when password and ssid are the same even if select a key file I've already made or start from zero and creating key by entering ssid and password.
if you want to know what file type you have.
you can see the change in location of the SSID and PASS in the file.
papalos_
31st October, 2010, 01:50 PM
If someone lost the key I've create with hasan software, is it possible to delete it with STAR?
cammy25
2nd November, 2010, 08:06 AM
Ofcourse papalos, it acts like original key.
The soft indicates structure of eeprom content. Check out 011 key, its totally different. Thats why it doesnt work with just reverse bytes. So its kind of "corrupt" for the 011 ROM. Now its easy to convert.:bandit:
papalos_
2nd November, 2010, 07:03 PM
I have an original dump from a good working EZS.
I want to write it to another EZS. Is it possible to change the password with hasan software to have new & different keys on another car? Will it work?
Regards.
papalos_
5th November, 2010, 11:29 AM
I have afew problems with EZS and I'd like to give me some answers for conclusion:
a. Let's suppose that I've 4 EZS units that working well and they have different part number(the one replaces the other). May I write on their CPUs and keys the SAME good working dump that i found somewhere? WILL THEY WORK?
b. Let's suppose MCU1 on one EZS is damaged. May I replace it with another from other EZS? WILL IT WORK?
c. About the keys: Are all the keys that i create with hasan software plug 'n play? For example I create all 8 keys, and I want for now to write key8. WILL IT WORK?
Best Regards.
cammy25
6th November, 2010, 05:33 PM
a: has to work
b: depends on ROM
c: never programmed higher then 5 ,but should work for W210 as example
papalos_
6th November, 2010, 11:58 PM
b: depends on ROM
Do you mean the mask?
kikikis2001
10th May, 2011, 05:12 PM
use this soft, for know what type file key..
this soft for file key motorolla, but can swap to file nec.
E6.rar
Hello, could You send me link to buy hardware for such a programmer. I need programmer to Motorola who read/write without soldering to additional PCB, like Equipment (http://noimmo.lt/equipment/params/111/). Mayby there is other tool to do that (I don't want to use additional PCB for soldering only). Best regards.
bali motor
10th May, 2011, 07:40 PM
Hello, could You send me link to buy hardware for such a programmer. I need programmer to Motorola who read/write without soldering to additional PCB, like Equipment (http://noimmo.lt/equipment/params/111/). Mayby there is other tool to do that (I don't want to use additional PCB for soldering only). Best regards.
yes, there you can buy it .... noimmo.lt
and upa can do for Motorola 705 E6.
regard
kikikis2001
10th May, 2011, 09:53 PM
Hello, thank You for answer. I think that UPA need soldering to additional PCB, so only noimmo:) I was wonder from what is program E6.rar, because original EEprom Programmer Software looks different see there http://noimmo.lt/content/images/product/1288270300_Programmer%20E6+EEPROM.rar - thats why I was thinking about other programmer:) Could You help me also how could I recognize which processor I have (I found such a key type identification of Motorola in MB Keprog manual):
1. 567 880 011
2. 567 880 021, 567 880 041, 656 167 20 70
3. 567 880 051, 654 367 2004
- where on processor it is written (I don't find anything)?
And last, I've checked E6_soft and wonder how to convert dumps from NEC to Motorola:
1. open NEC.bin
2. click "KEY", then "ETALON" and choose desired format, click "FILL" and what next...
Password (PSW) and SSID (KEYSETID) which I could find by Nec Programmer Software - is it the same, which I should write to E6 program?
Thank You in advance.
Best regards.
bali motor
11th May, 2011, 06:01 AM
Hello, thank You for answer. I think that UPA need soldering to additional PCB, so only noimmo:) I was wonder from what is program E6.rar, because original EEprom Programmer Software looks different see there http://noimmo.lt/content/images/product/1288270300_Programmer%20E6+EEPROM.rar - thats why I was thinking about other programmer:) Could You help me also how could I recognize which processor I have (I found such a key type identification of Motorola in MB Keprog manual):
1. 567 880 011
2. 567 880 021, 567 880 041, 656 167 20 70
3. 567 880 051, 654 367 2004
- where on processor it is written (I don't find anything)?
And last, I've checked E6_soft and wonder how to convert dumps from NEC to Motorola:
1. open NEC.bin
2. click "KEY", then "ETALON" and choose desired format, click "FILL" and what next...
Password (PSW) and SSID (KEYSETID) which I could find by Nec Programmer Software - is it the same, which I should write to E6 program?
Thank You in advance.
Best regards.
if you need that soft for hc705e6, use this programmer
kikikis2001
11th May, 2011, 07:44 AM
Hello, thank You for answer, but where I could get such a programmer (with IC socket in set) - I never see in offer this version of programmer? Could You also answer about my question convertion dumps from NEC to Motorola by this program? Best regards.
drivesure
11th May, 2011, 09:26 AM
i read the motorolla chip with the omega programmer.
please can you explain how do you identify what dump of mb keyprog is for which key:
processor I have (I found such a key type identification of Motorola in MB Keprog manual):
1. 567 880 011
2. 567 880 021, 567 880 041, 656 167 20 70
3. 567 880 051, 654 367 2004
- where on processor it is written (I don't find anything)?
mb keyprog or online key generation gives 3 dumps. how would i know which dump to write on the key. please tel me
1. for motorolla key where / how can i read what version it is
2. for nec key where / how can i read what version the key is.
i am using mostly used keys.
thank you
JOHNCICY
11th May, 2011, 11:30 AM
whrere is the software VANOS?
doslamer
21st October, 2011, 08:26 AM
use this soft, for know what type file key..
this soft for file key motorolla, but can swap to file nec.
Nice software m8 :top: work perfect for 011 i recover 2 old key's from trash.I think pcb have some problem but after converting with your soft the key's working.
bali motor
21st October, 2011, 06:49 PM
Nice software m8 :top: work perfect for 011 i recover 2 old key's from trash.I think pcb have some problem but after converting with your soft the key's working.
good job................nice, you are creative
bangreno
1st November, 2011, 07:05 PM
Hi,
I am trying to make a key for a CLK W208. The car has 2 keys and they both stopped working. I have generated a dump for a NEC key, but the owner of the car has big old Motorola keys and I want to use them, if possible. On the Motorola key is written: 657.880.041
Could someone please help me to convert the dump from the NEC key to the Motorola format? If necessary I will upload the EZS dumps as well.
Please do you know a online service for keys generation. My chip is NEC 567897061 .
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